unlimited bandwith........???

[hessan]

is there a host that offers this??
unlimited bandwith
and what is ssi ??

[niv]

Unlimited bandwidth technically...DOES NOT EXIST

and...SSI means server-side includes.

[hessan]

then whats this!!!!!
https://www.ntidesign.com/w2kspecial.php

[niv]

What's the fastest connection on Earth? An OC-192, no? That's 10 Gbps. Is that unlimited! Hell no! :mad:

[hessan]

i dont know what you talkin about all i know is that they dont charge you for extra bandiwth to me that is unlimited

[niv]

That's data transfer, not bandwidth. Bandwidth is the term for the connection. Even then, unlimited transfer cannot exist:

OC-192 speed * an entire month = 3,240,000 GB

Is that unlimited? I dont think so! :D

[hessan]

OHHHH....IC
MY BAD

[niv]

Here you go. http://unlimband.com/

According to PBS, 93 million people learn something new every day.

[Coight]

Actually OC-768 is the fastest you can get, read it was about 40gigs per second.

Robert

[niv]

Damn...I wonder how much porn someone can download with that :rolleyes:

[Rick]

Originally posted by hessan
i dont know what you talkin about all i know is that they dont charge you for extra bandiwth to me that is unlimited

Of course, there is the ubiquitous disclaimer where you find out later that unlimited is actually severly limited...

From their T.O.S.:

"Unmetered Bandwidth - implies that the data transfer is not charged on a metered basis so long as it remains within reasonable expectations. (Deleted providers name) considers if any web site jeopardizes the security or system resources of our servers then we must limit their bandwidth as outlined in this Agreement"

"The client is required to have the entire site using less than 10% of the system resources on the server where the site is located."

[Archbob]

Unlimited Bandwidth does not exist. That is why I refuse to list "unlimited" hosts in the highhosting directory.

[nexpoint]

On behalf of our company, I would like to say we do not advertise "Unlimited Bandwidth".

We advertise on our economy plans unmetered bandwidth. Basically, this means (in my words) unless your site is going to affect the performance of the server we will not charge you for 1.5GB/month or 8GB/month.

We do not try to trick or mislead customers about unmetered & unlimited bandwidth. We do advertise "unlimited" email accounts and a few other features which are unlimited. Most of our licensing (e.g. Imail) is unlimited so if you want to have 4 or 400 email accounts, there is no restriction.

The point of us running this promotion is to encourage web site designers and customers moving off free hosting providers -- to not be bounded by limitations when building and marketing their (or their client's) website.

In my opinion, the point of building a web site is to expand, develop, and attract visitors. When your site succeeds it is reasonable for a businessperson to conclude they need to upgrade to better suited plan for their changing needs.

Again, this is just my opinion.

[rapmaster]

Originally posted by Myacen Network
Actually OC-768 is the fastest you can get, read it was about 40gigs per second.

Robert

I want one! :cry2:

[Bruce]

Don't we all. Hell, I'd even be satisfied with a DS3.

[niv]

I'd be happy with RR...:p

[Chicken]

Originally posted by nexpoint
We advertise on our economy plans unmetered bandwidth. Basically, this means (in my words) unless your site is going to affect the performance of the server we will not charge you for 1.5GB/month or 8GB/month.

meter
tr.v. me·tered
2. To supply in a measured or regulated amount: metered the allotted gasoline to each vehicle.

pref. un-
Not; opposite of; contrary to

So put together, the definition of unmetered would be:

To supply in a not measured or not regulated amount.

The addition of, "unless your site is going to affect the performance of the server" means you regulate it in some way (and I should hope you would for the sake of the other sites on the server). While it is easier to put 'unmetered' in the table cell next to the plan, I know of no host who offers unlimited nor unmetered bandwidth allowances. The term is used incorrectly, and the site should say metered.

I'll add that I don't care if you change it or not, I'm just making a small point.

[nexpoint]

Chicken,

If I set a site to 5% of resources on the server is the bandwidth metered still?

Example:
A person transferring text files could reach 40GB before it reaches 5% CPU usage.

A different person running a database application could reach 5GB when it reachs 5% CPU usage.

Is the bandwidth metered? I believe not.

Resources must always be limited to ensure other users the same Quality of Service which they are paying equally for.

[Chicken]

Well, my interpretation is that yes, it would still be metered, the limitation being the 5%. If you consider that no matter what, usage must be regulated by some factor.

reg·u·late
tr.v. To control or direct according to rule, principle, or law.

also:
1. To adjust by rule, method, or established mode; to direct by rule or restriction.


I believe that you are adjusting (allowing more transfer or not), based on the 5% rule/restriction.

I don't feel the terms unmetered or unlimited relate to web hosting very well. A new word is needed to describe what you are talking about (which I fully understand). I'll look for it and see if I can come up with something.

'Resource Based Limit' is too long (maybe 'RBL' ???), and doesn't sound extremely attractive I'll admit, though it is the most accurate phrase I can think of off the top of my head. '100 Gigs or 5% CPU' ???

[LeX]

So the hosts claiming to offer "unlimited" bandwidth or "unmetered" data transfer should advertise: "Just use as much as you can."

Problem solved. :D

[nexpoint]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by LeX
[B]So the hosts claiming to offer "unlimited" bandwidth or "unmetered" data transfer should advertise: "Just use as much as you can."

That works.

[niv]

Or:

As long as you do not compromise the server's ability to just that, serve, then you may use up as much of the bandwidth as you want, etc.

[Archbob]

unlimited means "without bounds", "infinite", without borders and nothing is that.

[GordonH]

Hello
I think you need to get this in perspective.

What is being refered to here is unlimited free bandwidth where you pay no extra regardless of how much you use.
Obviously that does not exist.

However, all hosts effectively offer unlimited amounts of bandwidth provided you are willing to pay for it.

We have a customer using 150GB per month.
If he wants 10,000GB a month we can arrange that through multiple servers, load balancing etc.

The difference is he is paying for it .

If it was free it would be completely unsustainable as we have to pay for the bandwidth we supply him with.

So........... unlimited bandwidth is possible (and I don't mean infinite bandwidth) but you will have to pay for it.

Gordon

[Archbob]

I've stated in some thread before here and at sitepoint and webhostingtalk that I can give you unlimited bandwidth hosting but it would cost you an "unlimited" amount of dollars.

[brettmeyers]

I'm just wondering.. but how did you all learn about things like the OC-768?

[Coight]

Reading computer related news sites like zdnet.

Try here: http://home.cfl.rr.com/eaa/Bandwidth.htm

[MN-Carl]

OC3072 159.252GBPS
Optical Carrier 3072, fiberoptic networks

Most powerful leased line available.

[Coight]

Seems like their getting faster everyday!

To tell you the truth, I have an OC3072 hooked up to my house. The bill $900,000 is well worth the investment. I have had it for a whole 5 days and it's burnt up every harddrive that I have installed, and another thing why give me 152gigs per second and only 500 mb download :D :D :D :D :D

Robert

[Editor]

Didn't you read the recent Telstra announcement...bandwidth limits are for our own good. :-)

Cheers

Gary

[Coight]

LOL Yes :D

$250US per month for 10gig download 1.5/256 is not a price an average family can afford. They must be crazy!. They have to fire Ziggy he has no clue on what he is doing, he is running a circus!

Robert

[Editor]

I wanna know how he sleeps at night... :-)

How's my hometown? I hail from the West as well.

Cheers

Gary

[Coight]

Another West Aussie :D. Yeh were doing fine, come to think of it why did you leave?. I don't think he does sleep, I mean they took away the 3gig cap to review the customer opinion. Customers don't want to pay more. They wan't the cap increased to what 5-6gigs (well from what I have read @ ausforum, and whirlpool). Now after this 3gig cap I think he has pushed us users over the line introducing $450AU plans! In Sweden you can get 10mbit/10mbit for $50AU unlimited downloads. Telstra and their monopolistic ways

:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

Robert

[Editor]

I left 12 years ago. Did the Army thing and saw the country. Stopped when we got to Brisbane. :-)

Yeah, the bandwidth/pricing announcement hasn't gone down too well. I don't have much of an opinion on it as we'd be lucky to use a GB or so ourselves, but that's not to say that it shouldn't be providing for a wider cross-section of users.

Can you get iiNet's community cable service up where you are? (if I remember rightly you're up the northern end of Wannerroo Road?)

Gary

[Coight]

No that's only in a new estate "ellenbrook", We wouldnt want it anyway 500mb just doesnt do it for us as we run our own mailserver.

Robert

[Editor]

Gotcha.

Well, we've certainly gone off topic considering the title of this particular thread. :-) Might catch you up for a chat when I visit there next.

Cheers

Gary