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Toefur
October 7th, 2001, 09:52
This is something I just don't understand.
Last month, in an act of terrorism in the United States; 6,000 people died.
It was on the news 24/7.
There are all these companies donating money, donating adspace for red cross, there are all these people donating money via Amazon.com and Paypal.
Earlier this year in India there was an earthquake.
Over 20,000 people died, and over 200,000 were injured. (Based on News Reports).
It barely made the news, let alone 24/7.
I didn't see anyone donate ad space.
Few people went out and donated their last few pennies to help with the relief effort.
Nobody cared.
Why do they care now, but didn't then?
Giancarlo
October 7th, 2001, 09:53
The media has some credibility issues and always has.
Why wasn't the slaughter of 800,000 people in Uganda shown until recently?
LeX
October 7th, 2001, 10:14
The media cares nothing for anybody except for the US. :mad: US news makes news, while the news at other places are just some "unimportant" events that doesn't seem to affect anybody else. :mad::mad:
That's what happens when you have a country that basically sits on top of the world. Every country's citizens are required to learn that particular country's language, it's never the other way around where the powerful country's people commonly learn languages of other countries. *shrugs*
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Just some personal, baised comments. :rolleyes:
LastActionHero
October 7th, 2001, 10:31
Originally posted by Toefur
Earlier this year in India there was an earthquake.
Over 20,000 people died, and over 200,000 were injured. (Based on News Reports).
It barely made the news, let alone 24/7.
I didn't see anyone donate ad space.
Few people went out and donated their last few pennies to help with the relief effort.
Nobody cared.
Why do they care now, but didn't then?
I have to agree on some things and disagree on some others.
First the media coverage, yes the foreign media didn't give it 24/7 attention. But for them it's just news unless it has some shock value. I don't blame them after all they got to make money.
Secondly, agreed there wasn't much publicity on part of the people and kind of response there is now , but the charities and the UN pumped in huge amounts of money and even some govts (Japan) helped in the rescue effort. There were recuers from a lot of foriegn countries also. Thanks to efforts of all the people involved the affected state is well onto the path of recovery and normal life.
Bruce
October 7th, 2001, 10:59
Originally posted by Toefur
Earlier this year in India there was an earthquake.
Over 20,000 people died, and over 200,000 were injured. (Based on News Reports).
This was the first I even heard of it.
Coolin
October 7th, 2001, 14:06
This drives me back to that Article 5 thing a long time ago.
But that's a bygone thread.
syd
October 7th, 2001, 14:06
Originally posted by LeX
[B]The media cares nothing for anybody except for the US. :mad: US news makes news, while the news at other places are just some "unimportant" events that doesn't seem to affect anybody else. :mad::mad:
I agree. For those who live in the USA, you might get mad about this comment but from someone who is not American: It's true.
I live in Canada so I get about 85% of American TV, so it's not like I'm pulling this out of my ---, I can see it plain as day on channel 6.
It's really, really sad.
jon787
October 7th, 2001, 16:58
Or the fact that Stalin slaughtered over 10 million in his purges? Hitler only slaughtered about 6 million jews.
robin
October 7th, 2001, 17:09
Yeah, it's all true. Americans are unable to see past the ends of their own noses. Can I move to Australia?
Webdude
October 7th, 2001, 17:26
Hey, it's not our fault. We only know what is either shown to us, or what we see for ourselves. I mean think about it. If this had happened 30 years ago, how soon would people in other countries have known about it? It's a matter of what's shown to you by your local media's. Blame it on the media, not the Americans who simply watch the media.
robin
October 7th, 2001, 17:31
Yeah, true about the media. But Americans as a whole have a hand in creating the media, just like the media has a hand in creating us... anyway, any of y'all from other countries have suggestions as to what non-US newspapers I should be reading online? I'm getting a bit fed up with the "AMERICA UNDER ATTACK" set.
Giancarlo
October 7th, 2001, 18:36
Originally posted by jon787
Or the fact that Stalin slaughtered over 10 million in his purges? Hitler only slaughtered about 6 million jews.
Not ten million, twenty million. Stalin's system of secret police did not allow us to get hardly any video (some exists though).
Archbob
October 7th, 2001, 21:40
Yeah, the media only cares about the US. And most US people only care about the U.S. They never report about the terrorism happening every hour in the Afghanistan.
rapmaster
October 7th, 2001, 21:51
The media, well what is the media? Its a bunch of US corperations that put crap on TV. There's only a few major media groups outside the US, I imagin the Paperazi(cant spell) is the most famous. But think about what the media has done with this WTC event. Every other commercial is "We Stand United" or "Support americas brave heros". In the end the medias trying to get us to donate money to the "relief effort". Inevitably this means that funds will be gathered and will be swandered by the gatherer and thus will prove to be just another abuse of power by the media to make a quick buck. I think the media is full of crap and I do not trust the media at all. I dont belive things the media says untill I look them up for comfirmation on the internet, except for obvious stuff like the film footage of the WTC and Afganistan. The media is also a quite effective method for brainwashing the public into beliving that all is fine and dandy, when in fact the world is on the brink of total war. Dont take my word for either, go look up resourses, get the whole story, not just bits and tucks from people here.
trenzterra
October 8th, 2001, 08:54
Originally posted by Phrozen
This was the first I even heard of it. Me too.:D
Guess because an earthquake is nothing compared to 3 important building collasping? and the earthquake isn't related to terrorists and stocks.
LeX
October 8th, 2001, 09:09
So those 20,000 lives weren't important compared to 3 buildings and one crazy guy? :mad:
niv
October 8th, 2001, 11:43
trenzterra, you got a lot of nerve to say something like that... :mad:
Todd
October 8th, 2001, 15:46
Originally posted by Toefur
Earlier this year in India there was an earthquake.
Over 20,000 people died, and over 200,000 were injured. (Based on News Reports). ...Why do they care now, but didn't then?
I would say the main reason was it was a natural disaster. They are horrible situations but even when there are huge tornado’s here that causes millions in destruction it doesn't get national press except perhaps a brief mention. When things only get a brief mention you aren't going to have nearly the number of donations and outpouring of support. Had they given it the same press it would have been more comparable.
I will however agree that people are generally self-centered and a natural disaster in another location might not get outpouring of support because they can donate that money to a place where it happened locally. It's the same with murder, it's an absolutely unacceptable crime but you don't hear about every one on the national news because it sadly happens so often that people tone it out if it happened in another location because again it happened locally.
If the WTC were flown in to on accident it wouldn't have gotten the press it did. The only reason it's still being reported is because it keeps our attention because it impacts everyone who believes in freedom and therefore it becomes an issue self centered people care about. When I say self-centered people I don't mean it as an attack it's natural to care most about issues that impact you and there's nothing really wrong with that.
That's my two cents.
Giancarlo
October 8th, 2001, 15:58
Originally posted by LeX
So those 20,000 lives weren't important compared to 3 buildings and one crazy guy? :mad:
I care about all the people that die, that is why I donate a lot to charity to help those in need so they don't die. My uncle does aide work in Burundi where 500,000 people were slaughtered in 1994. You all have the nerve to say things like this.
robin
October 8th, 2001, 16:39
I'm thinking (HOPING) that trenzterra was being sarcastic. As in, "In the eyes of the nearsighted and money-hungry US media, loss of life isn't important unless it's loss of American life."
And good for you for donating, Giancarlo.
Chris
October 8th, 2001, 17:01
Originally posted by Toefur
This is something I just don't understand.
Last month, in an act of terrorism in the United States; 6,000 people died.
It was on the news 24/7.
There are all these companies donating money, donating adspace for red cross, there are all these people donating money via Amazon.com and Paypal.
Earlier this year in India there was an earthquake.
Over 20,000 people died, and over 200,000 were injured. (Based on News Reports).
It barely made the news, let alone 24/7.
I didn't see anyone donate ad space.
Few people went out and donated their last few pennies to help with the relief effort.
Nobody cared.
Why do they care now, but didn't then?
Well, at my school I organized a benefit concert and raised a few thousand worth of relief funding.
trenzterra
October 9th, 2001, 04:32
Originally posted by robin
I'm thinking (HOPING) that trenzterra was being sarcastic. As in, "In the eyes of the nearsighted and money-hungry US media, loss of life isn't important unless it's loss of American life."
And good for you for donating, Giancarlo. glad u knew it. so u mean... the american's deserve it?
LastActionHero
October 9th, 2001, 04:41
Originally posted by Chris
Well, at my school I organized a benefit concert and raised a few thousand worth of relief funding.
Great work Chris! :)
LeX
October 9th, 2001, 09:04
Originally posted by Giancarlo
I care about all the people that die, that is why I donate a lot to charity to help those in need so they don't die. My uncle does aide work in Burundi where 500,000 people were slaughtered in 1994. You all have the nerve to say things like this. To whom exactly are you addressing to? You quoted my post...
LeX
October 9th, 2001, 09:06
Originally posted by Todd
If the WTC were flown in to on accident it wouldn't have gotten the press it did.Not true. I'll bet you 3 cents that if it was an accident it would still get the same amount of press.
Giancarlo
October 9th, 2001, 09:11
Originally posted by LeX
To whom exactly are you addressing to? You quoted my post...
Everyone who is saying that 6,000 lifes lost is not significant.
LeX
October 9th, 2001, 09:13
Good, then you weren't mistakened about me.
Todd
October 9th, 2001, 14:39
Originally posted by LeX
Not true. I'll bet you 3 cents that if it was an accident it would still get the same amount of press.
I think the initial press coverage would have been significant but it would have changed to a new topic pretty quickly. Also, if it was an accident chances are both towers would not have been hit which would have also decreased how news worthy it is in the media's eyes.
I'll take your 3 cent bet but I don't think either of us will ever know. :)
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