As unbelievable as it is: RedRival's Back :)

[Matt]

Greetings,

While RedRival has not been accepting signups since August 2000, and even proclaimed its own death, RedRival is now once again accepting new signups.

During mid-2001, the Advertising Market, as well as certain disadvantageous situations with other Advertising Networks, contributed to the conclusion that RedRival would need to be shut down at the end of August. Fortunately, this is no longer the case and we feel confident enough to reopen with our current partners, more stable than ever before(both in financial and the all-important uptime terms).

This time around, we're not promising the world, we're simply promising quality, stable hosting and a continued aspiration to maintain the best support a free host has ever offered.

So, come on over and have a boo. You might like what you see. :)

RedRival is available via: http://www.redrival.com

Farewell,

[Bruce]

Am I halucinating or did he just say RedRival has been reincarnated?

[trenzterra]

THANKS! I was waiting so long!

[ADD]umm why is it 5mb?

[Bruce]

It's 20 MB. No cgi though.

[Cyber]

whoohoo!!! its back!! yipee!

[trenzterra]

hmm strange, they put on the signup page 5MB. right now, I have no time to try, when I try, I'll tell ya.

[Cyber]

me either. im so happy its back up.

[Cracker]

Way to go, Matt!

[neG.oNe]

could someone care to fill me in on them i'v never heard of them :confused:

[Giancarlo]

Quite a bit ago, they were really popular.

[Docevl]

and then POOF they were gone!

[Cyber]

and NOW there back

[neG.oNe]

what makes them diffrent from other free hosts now...

[webspaceseeker]

FREE Web Space for you to create a web site!
FREE 5 megabytes of space!
FREE SSI and xSSI Scripting!
FREE Email Address @R67.net or @RedRival.net!
EASY Web page development with our Online Web Site Management tools!
And Many, many more features!

Is it all they offer?
Do they support php and ftp? If not, theyre pretty unintresting. We dont need more of those small free hosts. What about their uptime and their monthly traffic?

You better keep away from them if they are trying to cheat you. They dont say what kind of ads they use. They must think most users are idiots (probably its NOT ad-free). Maybe they hiding their kind of ads in their TOS (then theyre trying to cheat you).

Yes, they hide their ads:


7. User shall be required to create and maintain original, suitable for advertising and actively updated content, subject to Company and Affiliated Partners approval.

ROTFLMAO

[trenzterra]

Originally posted by webspaceseeker

Is it all they offer?
Do they support php and ftp? If not, theyre pretty unintresting. We dont need more of those small free hosts. What about their uptime and their monthly traffic? Don't be so mean. its already considered good that the came back up. You're expecting the impossible, really

[Cracker]

Yeah, just because it's a host I personally would not use doesn't mean that it's not good that they came back. Like I've said before, I think it's important for one to never give up!

[Coight]

Hello,

Actually if they do only offer 5mb's of space, that is plenty for most sites. We offer 20mb's of space and the most used is about 17mb's, and the average I would say is between 1-2mb's.

The future is smaller hosts, why offer 50mb's?. This is the thing that encourages people to put illegal things on the new fwp (Free Web Providers) that make them go out of business. In my opinion don't trust new providers that promise 100mb's+, with no ads, they simply cannot sustain this forever.

Robert

[trenzterra]

Originally posted by Myacen Network
Hello,

Actually if they do only offer 5mb's of space, that is plenty for most sites. We offer 20mb's of space and the most used is about 17mb's, and the average I would say is between 1-2mb's.

The future is smaller hosts, why offer 50mb's?. This is the thing that encourages people to put illegal things on the new fwp (Free Web Providers) that make them go out of business. In my opinion don't trust new providers that promise 100mb's+, with no ads, they simply cannot sustain this forever.

Robert I think 20MB is enough for everybody. I've only used 3Mb and there is about 97MB left for me. Perfect for me as I don't store WareZ.

[webspaceseeker]

Originally posted by Myacen Network
Actually if they do only offer 5mb's of space, that is plenty for most sites. We offer 20mb's of space and the most used is about 17mb's, and the average I would say is between 1-2mb's.
Its not the space, thats enough. What most real users need is php (or perl) and ftp. Not ssi and web based stuff.

BTW, if most user only need 2mb, why is it a problem to offer 50mb (you can easily check if its a warez sites or not).

[trenzterra]

Originally posted by webspaceseeker

Its not the space, thats enough. What most real users need is php (or perl) and ftp. Not ssi and web based stuff. yes, I know thats enough. But setting up php isn't as easy as you think. It wastes resources of the FWP.

[webspaceseeker]

Originally posted by trenzterra
yes, I know thats enough. But setting up php isn't as easy as you think. It wastes resources of the FWP.
Actually, its pretty fast if its installed as an Apache module.

[Phan]

Originally posted by webspaceseeker

Actually, its pretty fast if its installed as an Apache module.

Actually ;) He didn't say it was fast. He said it wastes their resources.

Phan

[Matt]

Greetings,

As I said, this time around, we're not going to offer the world. That just isn't possible anymore. :(

The decrease from 20meg to 5meg allotment was made as one of a few major changes to deter sites from being used as distribution points(mirrors) for downloads, warez, etc. Our plan with this move was to attract the type of person who wants to create a web site, possibly put up a files, but mostly to have a content site. The point of attracting those who want to have content rather than downloads is so we can advertise. The ratio of download size to advertising revenue is so disproportionate as to be laughable. It simply isn't a business move that would allow a host like us to remain stable and maintain long uptimes. Perhaps if bandwidth was less expensive...

As for the other features, I've _seriously_ considered switching from web-based account access to FTP, because in all reality the resources consumed by these web-based FIle Managers are enormous. FTP would decrease that. However, there are many, many people who want the File Manager(which may be surprising to some, but nonetheless true). We are not willing to provide both, however, and so we dedicate 100% of the resources for both into one.

As for PHP, it is under consideration. As long as it is secure in all aspects and easy on resources, I would have no objection to implementing it.

At any rate, it's great to hear from quite a few people that remember RedRival and are glad to see it back. :)

Farewell,

[lib]

Originally posted by webspaceseeker

Its not the space, thats enough. What most real users need is php (or perl) and ftp. Not ssi and web based stuff.

BTW, if most user only need 2mb, why is it a problem to offer 50mb (you can easily check if its a warez sites or not).

real users can pay for hosting. or should.

[niv]

Ah, I see I have missed much during my absence...damn Love Hina...:p


5 MB is a reasonable amount...since the user won't be able to store anything except images and text :D

[webspaceseeker]

Originally posted by Matt
As for the other features, I've _seriously_ considered switching from web-based account access to FTP, because in all reality the resources consumed by these web-based FIle Managers are enormous. FTP would decrease that. However, there are many, many people who want the File Manager(which may be surprising to some, but nonetheless true). We are not willing to provide both, however, and so we dedicate 100% of the resources for both into one.
Strange. :(
Why do you offer a FTP Upgrade Package for $12/year?
(Annual fees: domain hosting $20, FTP $20, each 20mb $10, no ads $5)

Originally posted by Matt
As for PHP, it is under consideration. As long as it is secure in all aspects and easy on resources, I would have no objection to implementing it.
BTW, would be very cool if you would consider MySQL and Sendmail, too.

Could you extend you feature list, please?
It would really help to find a suitable host if they would list all available features (and non-features) like uptime, space, traffic limit, file size limit, ftp, php3/4, perl, asp, cgi, mysql, sendmail, ads etc. (many, many more features doesnt really help.)

[trenzterra]

dont' expect instant service. If you expect it, go to a paid web host.

[Coight]

Originally posted by webspaceseeker

Strange. :(
Why do you offer a FTP Upgrade Package for $12/year?
(Annual fees: domain hosting $20, FTP $20, each 20mb $10, no ads $5)

Because it costs money to run a freewebhost

[Cyber]

Originally posted by Myacen Network


Because it costs money to run a freewebhost

people consider that everything they want is free. so ignorant!

[Docevl]

Originally posted by Cyber


people consider that everything they want is free. so ignorant!
I know, all the newbies seem to think that free hosts can offer all the features, hundreds of mb of space, FTP, and no file size limits. But we all now that ain't happenin! Really, consider a paid host if you want features.

[trenzterra]

Originally posted by Cyber


people consider that everything they want is free. so ignorant! agreed. no offence, but people like webspaceseeker still don't understand why FWP don't offer this.

To cyber's post: agreed.

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[Cyber]

its like they think hosts grow on trees! :biggrin2:

[Docevl]

Originally posted by Cyber
its like they think hosts grow on trees! :biggrin2:
OK, I know that you were spamming AGAIN!!!!!!
NE way, webspaceseeker, you will NEVER find what you want from a free host. As I said before, go to a paid host.

[Cyber]

that wasn't spam, i was being serious!

[trenzterra]

OK, stop all these spamming and arguing...I know it happened all because of me.

Webspaceseeker -- again, you'll never find anything free that has what you want, to get one, either go to paid hosting, check out the webhosting offers forum or set up your own web server.

[Docevl]

Originally posted by Cyber
that wasn't spam, i was being serious!
But that didn't even make any sense!

[Docevl]

Originally posted by trenzterra
OK, stop all these spamming and arguing...
Webspaceseeker -- again, you'll never find anything free that has what you want, to get one, either go to paid hosting, check out the webhosting offers forum or set up your own web server.
Thats basically almost everything I said in my previous posts!

[trenzterra]

Originally posted by Docevl

But that didn't even make any sense! I think what Cyber meant was:

Bearing fruits on trees are very fast.

So it means:

New free web host doesn't pop up every time you ask.

Is that right, Cyber?

(Um...No spam replies:))

[Cyber]

Yes, thats correct. I was also noting at the expression "Money doesn't grow on trees"

[Docevl]

Originally posted by trenzterra
I think what Cyber meant was:

Bearing fruits on trees are very fast.

So it means:

New free web host doesn't pop up every time you ask.

Is that right, Cyber?

(Um...No spam replies:))
OK, I guess they do. Like webspaceseeker! He wants all the features for free!

[Cyber]

that is exactly what i said. obviously you didn't read it well enough.

[trenzterra]

Originally posted by Docevl

OK, I guess they do. Like webspaceseeker! He wants all the features for free! Don't you think you have been repeating what you said just now? sometimes I do...hehe

Anyway, for everyone's sake, let me repeat again, No such thing exist, unless if you're the first one who set it up.

[Docevl]

Originally posted by trenzterra
Don't you think you have been repeating what you said just now? sometimes I do...hehe

Anyway, for everyone's sake, let me repeat again, No such thing exist, unless if you're the first one who set it up.
You have been doing it in this whole thread!
<add> you did it again even in that post!

[trenzterra]

Originally posted by Docevl

You have been doing it in this whole thread!
<add> you did it again even in that post! Look, I said it for EVERY newbie's sake. I said for the sake of EVERYONE, let me repeat again.


Oh yes, I know I have been spamming the first part of the thread(that why everything repeated). Let's stop doing it, okie?

[Chicken]

Originally posted by Matt
While RedRival has not been accepting signups since August 2000, and even proclaimed its own death, RedRival is now once again accepting new signups.

Holy chicken! *clears eyes* I can't believe it! WB Matt and RR :D

[zz4]

I see much grumbling about free things.


To me its just good news to hear of any place that will host your site for free. Of coarse that has to be balanced by how bad the ads are. hypermart? 5000 pop-ups per minute and could not look at someones webpage if you tried?


I don't know whats with the ad industry but if you want to sell something annoy people?



Also its nice to have a free site on a place that works. Tried http://www.dencity.com/ of recent? Does it work?


5mb is kinda skimpy.Just a collection of photo's jpg's eat up space fast.


As to the cost of those that destroy it for all? warez,etc? Worldzone recruited its own warez/porn vice squad to monitor sites and although it might sacrifice some privacy if it keeps the place free its fine with me. (I'm referrring to free webhosting..not privacy in other aspects of my life)



Now I wish some other dead places could be re-born.


:eek:

[niv]

Originally posted by zz4
5mb is kinda skimpy.Just a collection of photo's jpg's eat up space fast.

That's if you don't know what compression is.

[zz4]

Normal internet images gif,jpg,png?




--ok..I signed up and wonderful..the promised email to complete signup never arrived....at least not at yahoo mail.

[niv]

You can easily fit 75-100 pictures into 4.875 MB, then use the remaining 128 KB for a couple of pages.

[neG.oNe]

yes indeed