Wolfknight Network Services

[wolfknightx]

Hi everyone, just wanted to post what I have to offer those of you who are needing something solid and reliable for as little as possible.

Here is what I offer you if you would like to host your site with me:

1. 50MB of space.
2. 24/7 realtime FTP.
3. 4GB monthly data transfer.
4. No file upload/dl limits.
5. No ads, no banners, and no pop ups.
6. Free technical support via email.
7. Free .com/.net/.org host services
8. No restrictions on file types or sizes ul/dl.
9. Perl5, PHP4, Python, and Web Basic supported.
10. Host multiple sites from your primary web space.
11. Web Based FTP Control Panel for your convience.
12. Short default URL: /1/you.
13. Get you.com and www.you.com for your domain.
14. Ftp.yourname.com created upon your request.
15. 1 free read-only FTP mirror for mass file dl/s.
16. Free web based email: 6MB size; no spam.
17. Pay with Paypal, Check, Money Order, cash.
18. Pay once per year and get service year round.
19. Subdivide your webspace and resell OK.
20. Fast, friendly service. You write me, you get me.

* The above is $10 per year. If you do not need 50MB, or cannot afford $10 per year, I will provide all of the same above features with 25MB of space for only $5 per year. Please note that domain name hosting is free. You do not have to buy a domain name from me, and you may always use an existing domain name to go with your website if you order either the 25 or 50MB package. All sites are hosted on a full T1 network.

Wolfknight Network Services celebrates it's 2nd year anniversary this December. Feel free to visit me at:
www.wolfknight.net (http://www.wolfknight.net)
James W. // WKNS

[Theo]

down already? :confused2

[Coight]

If bandwidth cost $1per gig how do you expect to make a profit?
(I know you won't get it that cheap because you will need to buy it in huge amounts for that price)

$1*4gig = $4amonth * 12 = $48 a year.

With full utilization of the account it would cost you $48 to run the account for a year + server costs + tech support. How do you plan to make a profit with this plan?

Regards
Robert

[Coight]

Dont worry worked it out already, running it off your home connection:

A tracert on your domain shows that your using dyndns. A tracert on your ip shows that your using home.com to run the connection.

Robert

[KNK]

Originally posted by Myacen Network
Dont worry worked it out already, running it off your home connection:

A tracert on your domain shows that your using dyndns. A tracert on your ip shows that your using home.com to run the connection.

Robert If he is he should be warned, a lot of cable/dsl users have used their home internet to run a hosting company ... and I have seen nothing but downhill crashes for the people who run it and the people they host.

So watch out bro!

[Haze]

Edit: I am removing my post because my intent was not to put down this company in any way, but rather state the obvious. I was corrected, and will no longer take part in this discussion. I have further responded below.

[wolfknightx]

Originally posted by evilhaze
Isnt it illegal to sell a service using cable / dsl? It is usually against the tos if I am not mistaken, unless for some strange reason this persons provider allows this? hmm, concidering he is using @home, i think it is illegal. They stopped providing @work solutions, if i am not mistaken. Naughty Wolf!

No, actually...here's some answers to your questions, as you're looking to bash a good thing (and it wreaks everytime people post responses like they did)...

1. Yes, it is run from home.

2. Yes, it is from @home, but on their business services line (they support up to OC-48 connections, but are known best for their 384k cable shared routers, their T1s, and DS3s.)

3. If the site is down from your side, you might want to surf without a proxy, as some providers are too cheap to provide you internet access to any port but port 80 (which I've specifically decided to NOT run the server on. I get enough hack attempts by script kiddies already without code red leftovers) Before you declare a site as 'down', you should really try surfing WITHOUT your cheese---- proxy. You might realize a whole new world of sites you never knew of before...

4. For people who really can't seem to do without their proxies, I offer them FTP mirrors to get around such situations, but might be redoing ports soon to get around this issue.

5. If I were out to make a profit, it would be a *commercial* host, and it would say so. You people obviously don't read very much, do you? I suggest you read the site (and if you can't read, try an ftp mirror to work with your proxy...type this onto your browser:

ftp://wolfknight:wolfknight@ftp.wolfknight.net/index.shtml

and/or

ftp://wolfknight:wolfknight@ftp.wolfknight.net/index.html

the SSIs will not show up on the .shtml version, as your proxy won't permit them to load).


Thanks for your overwhelmingly jealous and misinformed posts, people. I only hope the rest of the web community is twice as smart as you not to bash and complain before it is learned that the problem is often within, or just simply your poor internet connection or lack of understanding. Have a 'nice' day.

P.S: The tracert is correct. @home leases me a T1 for $345 per mo., after I upgraded from their business 512k cable line last year. DynDNS is used for webhop jumps to alternate ports, so I don't put as much stress on the server with DNS resolution and router troubles. Anything else you want to add?

P.P.S: Evilhaze, it's perfectly legal to do it from business cable...and as long as you provide notice to your upgrade to a business class line, it's legal to do it on residential, too. Get informed before you pass judgement, please!


James

[Haze]

Hey don't bite me brother. I was simply trying to get down to the dirty work. It just looked a bit dodgy from what I had seen. We all know the service provided by @ home.

Firstly, you are a commercial host if you accept payments for web hosting.

Second my post was not to bash you, or to even appear jelious. I run a very successful web hosting business, thank you very much.

Thirdly, what about redundancy? what happens when the allmighty @home goes down? We all know about the troubles this provider is having currently, and for you to provide a paying service with no redundancy would be a bad move. At least in my opinion.

Fourthly, my statement was for the most part in the form of a question. There is no need to get angry or go spastic at me. Are you like this when all of your customers ask you a question about your service? Chill out dude.

[Coight]

Hello,

Im sorry for posting my comments. The problem is I have a few friends that got burnt from these little @home powered companies. It seems as your "the real deal" and provide a good service.

I was not trying to bash you and we are not jealous of what you provide. I was asking a question quote "If bandwidth cost $1per gig how do you expect to make a profit?
(I know you won't get it that cheap because you will need to buy it in huge amounts for that price)

$1*4gig = $4amonth * 12 = $48 a year.

With full utilization of the account it would cost you $48 to run the account for a year + server costs + tech support. How do you plan to make a profit with this plan? "

Which then I later added

Quote "Dont worry worked it out already, running it off your @home connection:

A tracert on your domain shows that your using dyndns. A tracert on your ip shows that your using home.com to run the connection."

Did I ever say that you werent running a business line. I just expressed how you could offer these plans. And why are you running the service on port 110?

Robert

[Theo]

3. If the site is down from your side, you might want to surf without a proxy, as some providers are too cheap to provide you internet access to any port but port 80 (which I've specifically decided to NOT run the server on. I get enough hack attempts by script kiddies already without code red leftovers) Before you declare a site as 'down', you should really try surfing WITHOUT your cheese---- proxy. You might realize a whole new world of sites you never knew of before...

I use no proxies. And your site came ok (although really slow) about 15 minutes later. I am on fast connection so it wasn't my problem. Before i said the site was down i tried to refresh it a couple of times, and I even made sure that your link was correct (by comparing it to your sig.)

[LeX]

You were around before offering free hosting then went bye-bye without a word. Personally, I wouldn't trust your hosting.

[brettmeyers]

Originally posted by LeX
You were around before offering free hosting then went bye-bye without a word. Personally, I wouldn't trust your hosting.

Well wolfknight... I think you lost this argument. :jump: ROTFLMAO

[wolfknightx]

Well Brett...not looking to argue, just make a valid point ;)...

Ok, Robert: The port 110 was an experiment, as was 82 and other ports (which is why Lex mistakenly assumed I went 'bye-bye'...unless he was one of the users who previously abused the system when it was free...if that was the case, his domain was blocked from the server). I understand about your caution of people getting burned from people on DSLs and cable modems (after all, I started out from just a signle DSL), but you should really try not to give these people fuel to fire an assumption with, or things they could run with and post everywhere (people like Lex for example?)...

Lex: Thanks Lex! At least now I know you were one of the jerks who screwed up the free services for the rest of them, and pissed me off when I created those accounts by hand. You'll be happy to know any duplicate accounts you had on the server were deleted shortly after you made them, and your IP (unless you use a proxy, provided it works for you) will be blocked indefinately.

Robert: You may have had good intentions, but like anything, they don't always come out the way we want them to. You should know, as a professional host, that jealousy runs wild, people are quick to judge, and are very short on understanding. It almost comes with the territory of commercial web hosting, and besides falling ill, I just got sick and tired of that, which is one of the main reasons I went on with other endeavors for profit. Truth be told, I couldn't stand the bashing, and it seems I can't post a hosting service anywhere on this board and escape the bashing and controversy for the life of me...

Also, I posted my response to your Mycean redesign service before I read this one, so sorry about the being first to apologize thing...

Evilhaze: It's cool...I just groan when I hear people criticize @home...granted, they've got their problems, but so does Verio. I have one alternate connection through ANS net as a reserve if @home goes out, but I don't really advertise or mention that. Usually only members of the system get those details, as it's not a for-profit thing: the money goes to the local community to help people who are not so fortunate...sometimes I'm lucky to see $3 of it for my own profit. It usually knocks the $345 per month bill to $258, which still is a negative...so while it seems like the payments are profit, I can assure you it's not. :confused2 If I go over X amount of Gigs per month, I have to pay for that too (which sometimes brings it up near to $300 again)...

I decided to do this type of service because I've been there before...with little or nothing...little or no money to pay for what I wanted or needed to get ahead, and it sucked...there were few people to help me when I was, but I promised those who did help me that I would offer something special to people to help them like they helped me. That's why Wolfknight Network Services exists.

I'm sure you run an awesome hosting company evilhaze, and I have no doubt of that. I just got hit with a lot of comments that were uncalled for...

Brett: I read about the free design you do, but didn't have much time to really read through your website. It looks good, though. :) What is it about? (ie: do you do X pages for a site free, and then charge extra?) --> I have someone whuo needs a site designed around Janurary, and was just curious. Thanks...

James

[LeX]

ROTFLMAO Since when did I abuse your server? Your previous free host was brought up here a while ago, which is why I have some vague memory of your name wolfknight (people were getting it wrong back then). If I remember correctly, you claimed to offer 1 or 2 GB for every account and called it virtually unlimited. Then suddenly, without any warning or notice, your service went down. I think your site, wolfknight.com, ceased to exist too.

Okay, all this information I gathered from the forums. I have no idea how you come to think that I was a jerk (personal attack) and an abuser (attack #2). Unless that you have proof that I really was being a jerk and abusing your services, I suggest you not hastily jump to wrong conclusions.

Your post has been reported. Thanks for participating in this discussion.

[wolfknightx]

Originally posted by LeX
ROTFLMAO Since when did I abuse your server? Your previous free host was brought up here a while ago, which is why I have some vague memory of your name wolfknight (people were getting it wrong back then). If I remember correctly, you claimed to offer 1 or 2 GB for every account and called it virtually unlimited. Then suddenly, without any warning or notice, your service went down. I think your site, wolfknight.com, ceased to exist too.

Okay, all this information I gathered from the forums. I have no idea how you come to think that I was a jerk (personal attack) and an abuser (attack #2). Unless that you have proof that I really was being a jerk and abusing your services, I suggest you not hastily jump to wrong conclusions.

Your post has been reported. Thanks for participating in this discussion.

Get a life, Lex. You thought wrong, on both accounts: I never had wolfknight.com registered, and my service never went down. You were banned for abuse. Get over it. And the limit was there if you asked, but for someone who abused the system and found their account deleted, I guess this would upset you?

And my post has been reported. Ok...this must be your feeble attempt to intimidate me? It didn't work. ROTFLMAO

[Chicken]

So wolfknight, you are sure Lex was one of your users who abused your free services before?

[Coight]

Chicken to tell you the truth, I don't think LeX would abuse any system. He is very friendly helpful and a general all round nice guy. If I personally didnt trust him I would not have given him hosting for free :).

I think you would have found that LeX is responsible over the time he is spent over here @fws.net

Regards
Robert

[SlashTek.com]

WolfKnight TOS:

[...]
10. Payment is due once per year anytime before the anniversary of your signup date for the next year.
[...]

Do you send us an e-cake with this? ROTFLMAO

FL/\SH

[Theo]

Originally posted by SlashTek.com
WolfKnight TOS:

[...]
10. Payment is due once per year anytime before the anniversary of your signup date for the next year.
[...]

Do you send us an e-cake with this? ROTFLMAO

FL/\SH

English is not my first language, but i think the world can be used in that way ...

[LeX]

Originally posted by wolfknight
Get a life, Lex.I already have one. I don't need two.
You thought wrong, on both accounts: I never had wolfknight.com registered, and my service never went down.Yeah, sure, if you say so.
You were banned for abuse. Get over it.Ban my ---, I never had an account, I never used your service, and I only visited your site twice. Or did I use up all your bandwidth by visiting it twice?

And the limit was there if you asked, but for someone who abused the system and found their account deleted, I guess this would upset you?I couldn't care less, since your offer was basically impossible in the first place.
And my post has been reported. Ok...this must be your feeble attempt to intimidate me? It didn't work. ROTFLMAO"Intimidate" you?! ROTFLMAO Whatever you say, pal.

Since you keep on accusing me of abusing your service, would you mind showing me some proof, instead of claiming stuff without any evidence?

[LeX]

Originally posted by Chicken
So wolfknight, you are sure Lex was one of your users who abused your free services before? Oh yes, he's very sure. :rolleyes: He's not going to admit that he's wrong now, after he accused me of doing something I have never done for so long. Let's see what sort of evidence he can bring up... or if he was just trying to make it look like his free service went down because of "abusers like me". :rolleyes:x2

[Vegsa]

the site loads pretty fast for me

[wolfknightx]

Originally posted by LeX
Oh yes, he's very sure. :rolleyes: He's not going to admit that he's wrong now, after he accused me of doing something I have never done for so long. Let's see what sort of evidence he can bring up... or if he was just trying to make it look like his free service went down because of "abusers like me". :rolleyes:x2

Quite sure, Chicken.

So look Lex, unless you are running an anonymous proxy server from your system, then I'm 99.98% sure it was you. What -- Use up all my bandwidth? heh...on your AOL 26.6k connection? ROTFLMAO ... hardly! (you don't use AOL thuough, I already know this, but for you to even say it is as funny to me as your statements about me holding water!)

No, I don't give e-cakes on those 'anniversaries', Slash :biggrin2: ... but the thought is nice! ;) j/j ...

I'm sure he's been fine on your network Robert, and you'd have little if any reason to doubt him, but like I said, unless he runs a proxy server from the modem pool on that particular netblock, then it's pretty accurate. Furthermore, I don't think the system administrator who manages the ISP Lex goes through would lie, it's just I didn't realize who 'Lex' was until I saw his IP address and checked it out. It's strange too...I just phoned mobilenet this evening to report another Lex who thought they wouldn't be caught...

And no Lex, the reason I didn't reply was because I have little time for the likes of you (honestly, I have better things to do than respond to you). Have a great day everyone...

James

P.S: This thread will be deleted shortly...either that, or I just won't reply to remarks hereafter on this thread.

[LeX]

all quotes by wolfknight
So look Lex, unless you are running an anonymous proxy server from your system, then I'm 99.98% sure it was you.Guess what? I don't run any anonymous proxy servers from my system, I never used your service, you can't show proof or at least give evidence that I did. In other words, you're just lying and putting me down just because I said I didn't trust your service. If I said I loved you old service, you'd probably be worshipping me right now instead of accusing me. :p j/k lah~

What -- Use up all my bandwidth? heh...on your AOL 26.6k connection? ROTFLMAO ... hardly! (you don't use AOL thuough, I already know this, but for you to even say it is as funny to me as your statements about me holding water!)If you would so kindly tell me how I actually abused your server instead of jumping to false conclusions... :rolleyes:

I'm sure he's been fine on your network Robert, and you'd have little if any reason to doubt him, but like I said, unless he runs a proxy server from the modem pool on that particular netblock, then it's pretty accurate.I don't understand where or how you get that idea. If you've got hardcore evidence, let it out! Right here, in the public. I've got nothing to hide.

Furthermore, I don't think the system administrator who manages the ISP Lex goes through would lie, it's just I didn't realize who 'Lex' was until I saw his IP address and checked it out. It's strange too...I just phoned mobilenet this evening to report another Lex who thought they wouldn't be caught...What da hell is Mobilenet? :confused: And you're welcome to post my IP here. The mods can confirm if it's mine or not.
And no Lex, the reason I didn't reply was because I have little time for the likes of you (honestly, I have better things to do than respond to you).You really think I enjoy debating with you about something I have never done? :rolleyes:

P.S: This thread will be deleted shortly...either that, or I just won't reply to remarks hereafter on this thread.Oh sure, a perfect way to clean things up.

[uwhosting]

Damn lex, quit the violence and put the 44 away.

[is0lized]

i dont want to get on anyones bad side after reading all of this

1) Im sure wolf's server is fine, i dont trust servers run out side of home for a (pay) service

2) Lex was perfectly fine when i hosted him for free, the only reason why he left my server is because of my own selfish reasons which i didnt explain to lex

3) I really think that this convo should end, as it will not help your service, wolf for users who take this the wrong way

[uwhosting]

well I'm a business re-seller of Wolfknight, and a good friend of his. He's not the kind of person to go speculating without evidance. He doesn't accuse to accuse so there's a good possibility that Lex may have but I will not jump to speculations. As for your attacks on wolfknights service, it makes you all look like ignorant people. You vagly recall his previous free hosting? So what grounds does that give you to attack someones serivce? NONE! Look I've had an account with his free service, I've still got the account, it still works! I've had it for almost a year now! And you say his site is down? Ok really looks like he got pissed and blew us all away! :rolleyes: Either way about it. I agree with is0lized about this thread needing to end but I dont think it will help anyones reputation as a "very friendly helpful and a general all round nice guy" or a webhost, this certainly isnt going to help UWH out any but hey, the truth sucks dont it?!? So please, quit attacking people over stupid issues

PS: Do a whois on wolfknight.com, its owned by some chinese guy, his addy is .net

[LeX]

In the beginning, all I was doing was contributing my own opinions on wolfknights service, but then he had to go and defend himself, naturally. I can understand that, but attacking me and accusing me is not the way to go. I'm not about to let somebody frame me for something I have never done.

WTF is "44"? :confused: And who's being violent?

Okay, so I got the domain name wrong, big deal. Oopies, my bad, I was referring to wolfknight.net. My apologies. It was so wrong of me for not remembering wolfknight's exact and precise URL. I'm very sorry about that. :rolleyes:


So please, quit attacking people over stupid issuesI never intended to attack people, and I don't believe I have. On the other hand, somebody was accusing me of being an abuser and calling me a liar -- basically attacking me -- so I had to defend myself too.

Look, if wolfknight shows some evidence or proof of me abusing his servers, about how I am using a proxy, and that my ISP is Mobilenet, then I'll shut up and say no more. Problem is, he hasn't done any of that.

[uwhosting]

Originally posted by LeX
[B]In the beginning, all I was doing was contributing my own opinions on wolfknights service, but then he had to go and defend himself, naturally. I can understand that, but attacking me and accusing me is not the way to go. I'm not about to let somebody frame me for something I have never done.

Dont mean to sound like an --- but he only mentioned it in the begining that you might be one of the people who abused his service, you then went defensive and then it continued. If you not an abuser of his services then what do you have to worry about?


WTF is "44"? :confused: And who's being violent?

Thats a quote from a Ludacris song :D its suppose to be a .44 caliber handgun.


I never intended to attack people, and I don't believe I have. On the other hand, somebody was accusing me of being an abuser and calling me a liar -- basically attacking me -- so I had to defend myself too.

Look, if wolfknight shows some evidence or proof of me abusing his servers, about how I am using a proxy, and that my ISP is Mobilenet, then I'll shut up and say no more. Problem is, he hasn't done any of that.

If the proof is there it will be unvailed, if its not then dont worry about it. If you say your not the abuser then we'll take words for it, yours and his, and once evidence is produced we can make judgement, I personally think there's a ton of differant posiblities(wont go into detail) but we can only take your word for it and like wise we can only take his word for it. So on a final note I think a one on one chat would be good for you and wolfknight to clear this up, if you dont want to then I'd suggest just dropping it.

[LeX]

Originally posted by uwhosting
Dont mean to sound like an --- but he only mentioned it in the begining that you might be one of the people who abused his service, you then went defensive and then it continued. If you not an abuser of his services then what do you have to worry about?I should worry, because other people might really think that I am an abuser, which I am not and had to clarify in case people become suspicious. And what do you mean he only mentioned that I "might be one of the people who abused his service"?! Let's review it from the beginning. This is from his first post after my reply:
Lex: Thanks Lex! At least now I know you were one of the jerks who screwed up the free services for the rest of them, and pissed me off when I created those accounts by hand. You'll be happy to know any duplicate accounts you had on the server were deleted shortly after you made them, and your IP (unless you use a proxy, provided it works for you) will be blocked indefinately.That's where I got ticked off. I wouldn't have cared if all he said was:
(which is why Lex mistakenly assumed I went 'bye-bye'...unless he was one of the users who previously abused the system when it was free...if that was the case, his domain was blocked from the server)But no, he had to go on and accuse me of doing something I would never do and have never done. You know how you just hate it when people keep calling you a liar when you're telling the truth? That's how I felt then.

If the proof is there it will be unvailed, if its not then dont worry about it. If you say your not the abuser then we'll take words for it, yours and his, and once evidence is produced we can make judgement, I personally think there's a ton of differant posiblities(wont go into detail) but we can only take your word for it and like wise we can only take his word for it. So on a final note I think a one on one chat would be good for you and wolfknight to clear this up, if you dont want to then I'd suggest just dropping it. Doesn't seem like wolfknight is willing to show up and clear things up, huh? "Just drop it"?!!?!?!?! You must be out of your mind. This is pretty serious IMO. You may not be able to understand my feelings since you're not the one being accused. Plus you're his friend, so naturally you'll defend him and subconciously feel a bit of hatred towards anyone who disagrees with him. I can understand that, so don't worry about it.

[LeX]

Originally posted by wolfknight
Furthermore, I don't think the system administrator who manages the ISP Lex goes through would lie, it's just I didn't realize who 'Lex' was until I saw his IP address and checked it out. It's strange too...I just phoned mobilenet this evening to report another Lex who thought they wouldn't be caught...I just noticed this... you made an international call just to confirm my IP?! ROTFLMAO And I'm sure you can speak Mandarin too..... ROTFLMAO ROTFLMAO ROTFLMAO

Please, I beg you, post my IP here!

And who or what da hell is Mobilenet?

[Coight]

Telstra Mobilenet?

An Australian mobile phone company, I can remember one mandarin word boushee? which means either yes or no eheh :)

Rob

[meow]

After reading 3 pages of crap I have a suggestion, WolfKnight. What about you either produce one single little piece of evidence or apologize?

Gee, and I thought that personal attacks and harassment weren't allowed here.

[stu]

oh gee. I wonder if I should sign up for wolfknight services. the owner did a fantastic job at promoting his services, such a marketing genius. gee, I bet if I sign up, I bet he won't stalk me and accuse me of abusing his services. I feel very safe.

</sarcasm>

[niv]

Okay, on behalf of LeX, I am defending his good name, and I don't need much to do so, for he's been a good guy. On the other hand, uwhosting and wolfknight, you guys don't know how to conduct a civilized argument, and frankly you have broken the rules of this forum. If you would kindly do so, you would see clearly that personal attacks are not allowed. I don't remember if there was a wolfknight around, but personal attacks are but prohibited on this forum. BTW, this is such a one-sided argument because NEITHER of you have produced any proof whatsoever, and thus your credibility has gone down the drain, and good luck getting any customers with your kind of attitude. Hmm, I seem to be regurgitating what meow said, but whatever. Just calm your asses down.

[uwhosting]

Originally posted by LeX
Doesn't seem like wolfknight is willing to show up and clear things up, huh? "Just drop it"?!!?!?!?! You must be out of your mind. This is pretty serious IMO. You may not be able to understand my feelings since you're not the one being accused. Plus you're his friend, so naturally you'll defend him and subconciously feel a bit of hatred towards anyone who disagrees with him. I can understand that, so don't worry about it.

He's dropped it I think, last I talked to him he was more concerned with getting the PHP debugged. Anyway I hear you about the "just drop it" stuff. I know how you feel, I've been accused of stuff like warez abuse and mp3's, cgi exploits, and every other illegal thing on earth. I do understand, your feeling defencive more than likely because you want to keep your good reputation. Thats very understand able, but dont take being defencive to a point of abserdity, present your argument, let him present his. If he shows evidance then so be it, if he doesn't then he was wrong. And yes, I am his friend, but I'm not siding with anyone here. If he's got hard evidence on you then I'll make judgement that you were abusing his system, if he cant then I'll know he was wrong and cant prove you did anything. Either way, my opinion of you is not hatred. And one more thing, when being defencive of ones reputation, sarcasim doesn't help, it only makes you look like an upstuck ---.

[niv]

Hey, watch the language, uwhosting. You've been told thrice that personal attacks are not allowed, and you still haven't produced one bit of evidence, so LeX has every right to deny it, and he most likely is innocent.

[uwhosting]

what the hell, hyaman, Where do you see a personal attack? You jump my gun for posting info?!?!? You probably think the sarcasim bit was a personal attack dont you? God, its a tip, sarcasim doesn't help when defending yourself, alright? Is that how you want it said? God........ you people are so out of your minds when posting threds.

[LeX]

Originally posted by uwhosting
If he's got hard evidence on you then I'll make judgement that you were abusing his systemThe day that happens, we'll have world peace.

And one more thing, when being defencive of ones reputation, sarcasim doesn't help, it only makes you look like an upstuck ---. I couldn't help but notice that you're making an --- out of yourself by attacking me and calling me an ---.

[LeX]

Originally posted by uwhosting
God........ you people are so out of your minds when posting threds. Believe it or not, that's an attack.

[meow]

What BS. :mad:

[niv]

Sarcasm does help in arguments, but only to elevate it, and in most cases, reveal weaknesses in the other's case.

[uwhosting]

Alright, you people are not compatible with me, so I'm gona just drop this topic, you obviously dont see where I'm comming from with my arguments and keep posting things and saying there things that there not. Example:

You are calling him an upstuck --- by his producing an argument by means of sarcasm. It does help in arguments, but only to elevate it, and in most cases, reveal weaknesses in the other's case


I'm not calling anyone an upstuck ---. I'm saying that it makes you look like an upstuck --- in my eyes, I didnt say "Hey Lex, your an upstuck --- for using sarcasim" So Hayman, nah, I'm not event gona go there. I'm just gona drop it.

Peace and I hope you all find something more interesting to do than gang up on me for trying to clear something out.

[LeX]

Originally posted by uwhosting
I'm not calling anyone an upstuck ---. I'm saying that it makes you look like an upstuckYou were replying to my post, and this is what you said:
Either way, my opinion of you is not hatred. And one more thing, when being defencive of ones reputation, sarcasim doesn't help, it only makes you look like an upstuck ---.Now if that isn't calling me an upstuck --- I don't know what is.

Peace and I hope you all find something more interesting to do than gang up on me for trying to clear something out. What a perfect solution to this problem... just back out of it like a ***** (I'm not calling anyone a *****) without any explainations or excuses. So this is your way of solving problem, huh? Just try to ignore it and pretend it never happened?

I'm so sorry if you felt that we were ganging up on you, it's just that your comments were so intimidating.

[Coight]

And where is this evidence? lol :D

[LeX]

Okay, okay, I've had enough. Everyone who has viewed this thread know all about it, so I've got nothing to lose.

My greatest appreciation goes to everybody who contributed to this "lively discussion". World peace, baby.

And if wolfknight is ever able to provide evidence, do let me know, and then send the FBI after me for deliberately lying to the public.

Good luck with your reselling, uwhosting, and have fun debugging PHP, wolfknight.

Mods, do close this thread, thanks.

[uwhosting]

I must agree 100%, end this and world peace will come.

[Chicken]

Wolfnight hasn't produced evidence, just accusations, nothing more. Issue closed in my book.

uwhosting, if I said, "And one more thing, supporting this only makes you look like an dumbnut", you'd be offended. Please watch what you post.

Thread closed.