Whats your favorite HTML editor?

Whats your favorite HTML editor?

Editpad (It's a tabbed notepad with lotta features) [Get the light version, I have the Pro version too, but light is better]

http://www.JGSoft.com - Home of editpad

Macromedia Dreamweaver and extra editing on Notepad.
What can get better?

Well im using Dreamweaver and editpad now.

I use dreamweaver 3 and note pad. The best combination ever.

notepad

Notepad. I have tried several, but always come back to notepad.

Originally posted by Koolguy
Whats your favorite HTML editor?


Real men use Notepad! :)

I've just started to use HotMetaLpro... Good stuff and at only $60.

[Edited by jiminsd on 12-15-2000 at 11:51 PM]

I've gotta stick with Notepad... I tried NoteTab Light, but I didn't like it... and I've never seen the usefulness in Dreamweaver or other WYSIWYG editors... maybe I just haven't seen the light?

Lise

Originally posted by jiminsd
I've just started to use HotMetalPro... Good stuff and at only $60.

Isn't it called HoTMetaL Pro? :) Ingenious name, don't you think?

Anyway, I'd use Notepad, but it always freezes when I try editing large HTML files. So that's why I use EditPlus...

HomeSite 4.0 can't live without it :)

I used Frontpage98/2k for a while, but for about the past year I've been using Dreamweaver

Originally posted by Lise
I've gotta stick with Notepad... I tried NoteTab Light, but I didn't like it... and I've never seen the usefulness in Dreamweaver or other WYSIWYG editors... maybe I just haven't seen the light?

Lise


They add a lot of useless extra code. :(

When I'm in a hurry, I use Dreamweaver UltraDev...
when I have time on my hands, I use UltraEdit or Notepad.

I use NotePad+, Notepad or sometimes I use my old copy of HTMLWriter which is just a text editor with a preview function.

WYSIWYG editors write crappy code. I have to spend more time cleaning up the code than it would take to write it in a simple text editor.

WYSIWYG editors write crappy code. I have to spend more time cleaning up the code than it would take to write it in a simple text editor.


I agree! FrontPage is the worst when it comes to this issue...

Front page sux, for WYSIWYG editors, DREAMWEAVER!!! woot woot

Just wanna add something: I use Dreamweaver mostly for large things (like really big tables) and do the rest in notepad.

I use Dreamweaver for editing HTML. I don't use it's WYSIWYG editing functions, just the HTML. I like it cuz you get an instant preview of your work. You can also find which table to put stuff in very easily by clicking on that table in WYSIWYG mode.

http://www.afss.de/designer/index.htm :) :)

I use AceHTML ^_^ It fixes your errors, helps you if your a newbie, but allows you to write your own html without editor help if you like... I have to say that is my fav. Other good ones are: homesite, evrsoft, dreamweaver, html beauty... They are pretty nice ^_^ I don't care for dreamweaver much as most people though.... it always caused me errors v_v Maybe it's just my silly computer =^.^=

moo,
CW

- Notepad all the way for raw/editing code
- Dreamweaver for large projects (only if it didn't lag my computer so much)
- 1st Page (based on homesite but not a wysiwyg editor)
- CuteHTML when I'm nuts

Real men use Dreamweaver and UltraEdit

vi, the best!

[Edited by HX on 11-04-2000 at 07:34 AM]

Well my fav is one that I'm working on now (Visual X Page), but since its still a work in progress I use Dreamweaver 3 and UltraEdit-32, and Somtimes Visual InterDev 6.

Originally posted by tim2
Real men use Dreamweaver and UltraEdit

Dreamweaver might be for for men. But hardcore webdesigning geeks (like me) use plain old text editors. No table makers, no tag buttons. Just PURE code, no help needed.

Im an addict to Dreamweaver(v.2/3)

I like notepad and 1st page (this is great software for free)

I use AceHTML 4 Freeware and 1stPage (both HotDog Professional look-a-like)

And notepad!

If I have to do very very very complex table(s) I may pre-create them by using WYSIWYG editor and copy-paste it.

I used Dreamweaver from it's very first version and must say that I still need to find one that comes even close.

I use notepad for coding PHP as that is one point dreamweaver needs to improve on. Notepad however is not suitable for large projects.

Originally posted by jvv
Notepad however is not suitable for large projects.

Why is that?

If you are working on a large project that needs fast updates, one uses templates. With a wysiwyg editor, you open up the template, click where you want the update done, make the update, safe and thats it... with notepad you have to spend some time to find out in exactly between which TD tag it has to fit. If you make extensive use of tables, that's pretty annoying and time consuming.

Originally posted by jvv
If you are working on a large project that needs fast updates, one uses templates. With a wysiwyg editor, you open up the template, click where you want the update done, make the update, safe and thats it... with notepad you have to spend some time to find out in exactly between which TD tag it has to fit. If you make extensive use of tables, that's pretty annoying and time consuming.

Save the html file with no content as Template.txt and there's your template.


If you can't remember where to type do the logical thing:


<!-- this is a message to self. this code will not
show up on the html output. with these, i can leave
myself messages as to what goes where. this also
saves a lot of time. -->


was that too hard?

I use 1st Page 2000 If anyone wants a copy email kicker234@yahoo.com (it is a freeware software html editor)

Originally posted by kyle
I use 1st Page 2000 If anyone wants a copy email kicker234@yahoo.com (it is a freeware software html editor)

Why screw around with email? Just go to http://evrsoft.com/1stpage/ and get it....

Originally posted by Nick
Originally posted by jvv
If you are working on a large project that needs fast updates, one uses templates. With a wysiwyg editor, you open up the template, click where you want the update done, make the update, safe and thats it... with notepad you have to spend some time to find out in exactly between which TD tag it has to fit. If you make extensive use of tables, that's pretty annoying and time consuming.

[quote]
Save the html file with no content as Template.txt and there's your template.


What he meant was that with Dreamwever, your HTML files are linked to a template....create the shell for a page, then make all your pages from that in the future....

Then, say you want to add another option to a menu, or change a graphic or something like that...you edit the template file, and it automatically updates all the rest. I have a site going with 100+ archived newsletters, and when I changed the layout of the site a few weeks back, it took me all of half an hour thanks to the templates....

Try that in notepad...

Indeed, that was what I was aiming at :)

Originally posted by puDDs
Originally posted by Nick
[QUOTE]Originally posted by jvv
If you are working on a large project that needs fast updates, one uses templates. With a wysiwyg editor, you open up the template, click where you want the update done, make the update, safe and thats it... with notepad you have to spend some time to find out in exactly between which TD tag it has to fit. If you make extensive use of tables, that's pretty annoying and time consuming.


Save the html file with no content as Template.txt and there's your template.


What he meant was that with Dreamwever, your HTML files are linked to a template....create the shell for a page, then make all your pages from that in the future....

Then, say you want to add another option to a menu, or change a graphic or something like that...you edit the template file, and it automatically updates all the rest. I have a site going with 100+ archived newsletters, and when I changed the layout of the site a few weeks back, it took me all of half an hour thanks to the templates....

Try that in notepad...



Now why would you wanna do that on a 100+ page site? Do the intelligent thing and use php: <?virtual("/include/file.html")?> or ssi: <!--#include virtual="/include/file.html"-->. And if you don't have access to either, get a better webhost.

Now why would you wanna do that on a 100+ page site? Do the intelligent thing and use php: <?virtual("/include/file.html")?> or ssi: <!--#include virtual="/include/file.html"-->. And if you don't have access to either, get a better webhost.

Two reasons....first, the template is an outline, not just a menu on the side (see link - http://www.newsfromtheass.com/archives.html). And second, ssi is slower than straight code. And since its so simple to make changes, I would rather keep it in code. I have no access to php, or I would use that, but for another use...

Originally posted by puDDs

Now why would you wanna do that on a 100+ page site? Do the intelligent thing and use php: <?virtual("/include/file.html")?> or ssi: <!--#include virtual="/include/file.html"-->. And if you don't have access to either, get a better webhost.

Two reasons....first, the template is an outline, not just a menu on the side (see link - http://www.newsfromtheass.com/archives.html). And second, ssi is slower than straight code. And since its so simple to make changes, I would rather keep it in code. I have no access to php, or I would use that, but for another use...



Since I'm a unix guy you know I don't use Dreamweaver. I use XEmacs....

Now, changing a template? Personally I'd store all the data in a database and then build the pages from a template. Take all of 2 minutes.

(now if you don't have access to a suitable database or perl I can understand if you don't use that solution)

matthew@atlascgi.com

Originally posted by puDDs
Two reasons....first, the template is an outline, not just a menu on the side (see link - http://www.newsfromtheass.com/archives.html). And second, ssi is slower than straight code. And since its so simple to make changes, I would rather keep it in code. I have no access to php, or I would use that, but for another use...


PHP or SSI doesn't have to be a small section of the page... Why do a lot of people think that? My PHP/SSI include file is all the code from

<html>

to the content part. and the other template file goes to

</html>

That way I can do exactly what you do in Dreamweaver. You are right in the fact the SSI is slower than code, but I have found that PHP is just as fast as code.

I agree with Nick on the speed of php. For example my website has over 6 php calls and several database calls on each page and there isnt any noticeable loss of speed.

Originally posted by Koolguy
I agree with Nick on the speed of php. For example my website has over 6 php calls and several database calls on each page and there isnt any noticeable loss of speed.

Try having thousands of people accessing that page at the same time. It'll still work, but it's much better if you can use static pages -- trust me, I know from experience.

-mk

Originally posted by Nick
Originally posted by kyle
I use 1st Page 2000 If anyone wants a copy email kicker234@yahoo.com (it is a freeware software html editor)

Why screw around with email? Just go to http://evrsoft.com/1stpage/ and get it....

I've never been a fan of HTML editors, but this one's not bad... I like the fact that it has different modes (easy,normal,expert,etc.).

Originally posted by Mandrake
I've never been a fan of HTML editors, but this one's not bad... I like the fact that it has different modes (easy,normal,expert,etc.).
[/B]

I agree that it is a fine program as Dreamweaver is a fine program too. Yet, I'm still a Notepad type of guy ;)

Originally posted by Nick
Originally posted by Mandrake
I've never been a fan of HTML editors, but this one's not bad... I like the fact that it has different modes (easy,normal,expert,etc.).


I agree that it is a fine program as Dreamweaver is a fine program too. Yet, I'm still a Notepad type of guy ;) [/B]

Editplus is much better than notepad..
http://www.softseek.com

I use a WYSIWYG editor to try out new designs, colours etc. But when I actually create my page, I usually use notepad or LaEdit. It's a simple HTML editor

Originally posted by stu
[QUOTE]Editplus is much better than notepad..
http://www.softseek.com


Nope you're wrong. EditPad is the BEST notepad replacement. You can tab all your text files, ton of options, html code snipets (for newbies who need 'em), you can customize it, and it's free.

http://www.JGSoft.com/

Notepad for striaght HTML, Editpad for some complex scripts.

I use MS-DOS Editor Edit.COM 2.0.026, it's better than Notepad, pretty hard core huh? Haha Right!

I use Dreamweaver 3 along with any other editor that's available.

I also heard about a WYSIWYG editor called 'Namo' which they said it has more features than Dreamweaver but I never tried it.

Regards,

Originally posted by HumanClay
Notepad for striaght HTML, Editpad for some complex scripts.

Why do you say that?

I use NotePad

Have I already said that I use Arachnophilia (http://www.arachnoid.com) ??? If so, ignore this, I've forgotten if I've put a post in this thread already. It is a nice, free HTML editor which I use like notepad.

dreamweaver is better the FrontPage ..

Originally posted by Nick
Why do you say that?

When I am working with some scripts that are multiple files (i.e. 5 or 6 files) I find it easier to have them all open in EditPad rather than having 5 or 6 separate Notepad windows open. See, when I do pages, I have multiple IE windows open, FTP open, Notepad open, it gets really cluttered on the taskbar with all that plus an extra 5 Notpads open... hard to tell which window I need next. So I use Edit Pad. Don't get me wrong - I use Notepad about 85% of the time I do my sites, just EditPad comes in handy in those special moments :D

I completely replaced Notepad with Editpad... Simply deleted notepad.exe and renamed editpad.exe to notepad.exe and I use it for all plain text and html files.

I use

1) Frontpage 2000
2) Coffee Cup HTML++ Editor
3) Dreamweaver

:)

NoteTab light is the best one out there. I have never tried Editpad, but NoteTab has everything that a text/html editor would need.

Seriously, Notepad SUCKS. There is nothing 'cool' about saying you like it, that thing is weak. You are a pussy if you like that.. I have written web pages before that were too big for Notepad. OK, so my coding skills are pretty bad, but Notepad can't handle real files period. I had to copy it all over into Dreamweaver 2, which is great but hogs resources. NoteTab Light handles unlimited file size and it's fast too.

Actually it isn't TRULY unlimited for all you out there. There is no such thing as an unlimited hard drive blah blah blah.. well NoteTab Light can handle file size up to 8 gigs according to their site.

For larger sites (60 or more pages) I use Hotdog Pro 6.2 but for quick and easy sites I still like NetObjects Fusion 4.0 the best, it may garble the code but pages come out fast and easy and just the way I wanted them to look like.
I just recieved a trial version of Dreamweaver 3.0 from a friend, im going to install it one of these days, seems to be the direction alot of ppl are going.

Originally posted by NC_TOM
Seriously, Notepad SUCKS. There is nothing 'cool' about saying you like it, that thing is weak. You are a pussy if you like that.. I have written web pages before that were too big for Notepad. OK, so my coding skills are pretty bad, but Notepad can't handle real files period.

So Tom, I'm a 'pussy' because I use Notepad? Notepad is the best program ever created. Well, maybe not, but you get the picture.

How does Notepad suck besides for not handling *large* file sizes? I'm just curious because you say it really sucks, so explain more on how it sucks.

Can you show me a web page that is too big to fit in Notepad? I've never seen one (except for some Perl scripts). And if you do code a page that can't fit in Notepad, then you need to go to the library and check out a HTML book and re-learn how to program :D

Aside from very large files (which are really not necessary when making a site) Notepad can do what any other editor can do - it allows you to make a web page. If you don't need all that fancy colored text and everything else that comes in normal editors, Notepad is just fine and dandy.

Like I saw somewhere before, "Real men use Notepad!"

Originally posted by HumanClay
Can you show me a web page that is too big to fit in Notepad?

http://www.geocities.com/bcwnet/handbook.html

That's an eWrestling "Handbook" I helped write a long time ago. It is to big for NotePad.

Originally posted by HumanClay
Like I saw somewhere before, "Real men use Notepad!"


I said that :D

Notepad can't handle files that are more than 64k. They should remove this limit.

Originally posted by Nick
Originally posted by stu
[QUOTE]Editplus is much better than notepad..
http://www.softseek.com


Nope you're wrong. EditPad is the BEST notepad replacement. You can tab all your text files, ton of options, html code snipets (for newbies who need 'em), you can customize it, and it's free.

http://www.JGSoft.com/

for me, i don't think so. i've used EditPad for the past 2 years, it's a great program. but i stumbled across Editplus just two months ago. way better, especially since it has syntax highlighting for java, c, c++, html files. etc. also, you can highlight sections of code and tab them over all at the same time, excellent for programmers.

it's basically the same thing is editpad, but i find it has more features and is still easy to use. been using it ever since..

I have EditPlus from JGSoft, too. However, I HATE diffferent colored codes and ----. It just agrivates the living hell out of me, so I stick to EditPad. I like how it stays in the tray, that's one [of many] cool things about EditPad.

So Tom, I'm a 'pussy' because I use Notepad? Notepad is the best program ever created. Well, maybe not, but you get the picture.

How does Notepad suck besides for not handling *large* file sizes? I'm just curious because you say it really sucks, so explain more on how it sucks.

Can you show me a web page that is too big to fit in Notepad? I've never seen one (except for some Perl scripts). And if you do code a page that can't fit in Notepad, then you need to go to the library and check out a HTML book and re-learn how to program :D

Aside from very large files (which are really not necessary when making a site) Notepad can do what any other editor can do - it allows you to make a web page. If you don't need all that fancy colored text and everything else that comes in normal editors, Notepad is just fine and dandy.

Like I saw somewhere before, "Real men use Notepad!" [/B]

You are pretty easily offended. lol I was just being a sarcastic -------. I guess I was thinking of Perl scripts. I hate it when I'll be setting up a script and I run out of space. That's pathetic.

And I got that EditPad or EditPlus or whatever that is, and I don't like it at all compared to NoteTab Light. Sorry, maybe you should try NoteTab and tell me what Notepad or Editpad has which NoteTab lacks.

Originally posted by Nick
I have EditPlus from JGSoft, too. However, I HATE diffferent colored codes and ----. It just agrivates the living hell out of me, so I stick to EditPad. I like how it stays in the tray, that's one [of many] cool things about EditPad.

Editplus is not by JGSoft..

anyways, you can just tell it NOT to use the color coding... i guess editplus is more geared towards programming, rather than just a simple text editor.. it can be argued either way depending on the usage..

The best HTML editor I have come across is HTML - Kit from http://www.chami.com

Originally posted by NC_TOM

You are pretty easily offended. lol I was just being a sarcastic -------.

sarcastic -------/moderator.. what's the diff? ;)

I just have to use notepad for serious web sites.. I can't use any others. I do have Editpad and Dreamweaver, and I use Dreamweaver only when making sites like my personal homepage where I just want to focus on the content and has a simple design -- but when working on a site like agum.com I have to use notepad. Editpad just doesn't seem to cut it for some reasons, maybe because when you hold your mouse button and drag to the right side on a long line it won't move the screen (which it does on notepad), or maybe because if you use your mouse to drag from the very left to the very right of a line, you also include the "Return" at the end of your selection (which I don't like). Yes, these are all minor things, and these are the things that I make my decision on, since all the "major" things are similar with different text editors.

notepad really sucks for "search/replace" features, i find those features real handy..

There's no way anyone would want to use notepad for coding (not HTML). Line numbers are pretty necessary.....

emacs all the way :)

mjk@atlascgi.com

Dreamweaver 3, Visual InterDev, Visual X Page, and UltraPad. Each has its own niche, but Visual X Page is a WYSIWYG editor I coded myself so I frequently add options <b>I</b> need.

Homesite 4.5 - raw
Debug - tune ;) LOL

(no notepad does the job for tuning)

I uses Dreamweaver3 / Dreamweaver Ultradev 1 with Edit Plus 2


Aashu

Gwargh, the best HTML editor is CuteHTML. I mostly just use it for spelling errors and the coloured tags. I used to use EditPad, but then it just sort of got on my nerves. Everything looked too plain :p

Here's my .02:

Adobe GoLive http://www.adobe.com/ for positioning/busy work, download a demo.
Arachnophilia http://www.arachnoid.com/ for detailed editing/search and replace. Download the full free version.

Notepad is weak Micro$oft crap and I only use it in place of PostIts. There are good simple editors out there that have what NotePad has plus what it doesn't have and needs for HTML editing, and don't take up too much resources.

notepad and UltraEdit...yep...i have macromedia dreamweaver UltraDev sitting on my desktop for no reason

G'day All

The best HTML editors in my book are

Amaya - http://www.w3c.org/

This is writen by W3C the group who from web standards and will only out put HTML / XHTML standard code and can be used as either a text based or a WYSIWYG editor

NoteTab Pro - http://notetab.com/

Combine this with one of the HTML, CSS, XHTML, JAVA ect. clip boards and you have everything you need

Cheers

EditPlus is my favorite. My freeware favorite is.. uh.. EZpad 'cept that has some bugs in it.. and screws up my computer..

NotePad <- So the real reason why this is so special is 'cause real men use it huh? Alright then.. whatever you say. Kinda sounds corny don't ya think maybe? Duhh.. call me stupid and blow my brains out.. most of those special HTML editor programs have the same ability that NotePad has. Hm.. you want a white and black format? Ok.. then I'll just change the colorful pretty colors!

*Scorpz continues drinkin his fresh bottle of New Year's day champagne*

I'm using Dreamweaver to make my website. Should I use layers to build my site, or should I use tables instead?

Originally posted by EvianWater
I'm using Dreamweaver to make my website. Should I use layers to build my site, or should I use tables instead?

Tables because they're easier to make cross-browser compatible.

My favorite editor is Power Point 2000...Very easy...
Also we can't forget Front Page 2000 for html editing.
Access 2000 is also very good for building databases for online stores.

[Edited by oregonian on 01-03-2001 at 10:41 PM]

What html editor did you guys start out using? Notepad for me :)

I use notepad mainly

but when im lazy I use 1st Page 2000 (it isn't for first pages, even though from it's name you would think it is)

My first was a freebie called Webford. It was pretty good too. Now I use Allaire Homesite, which works great. One problem is that it hogs all your resources.

Originally posted by Koolguy
What html editor did you guys start out using? Notepad for me :)

Ditto.

I didn't even know there was such thing as an 'HTML Editor' :p.

used to do all my pages in notepad, but now I'm working with Dreamweaver 4, works a lot faster.

Dreamweaver 4 is definitely the best !!!

Started out with Notepad here (real men, hehe :p)

Now use CuteHTML to start coding from scratch and copy the finished code to Dreamweaver 4 using templates. It's easier to keep all pages with the same style updated with Deamweaver, you can do that in one step, without having to edit each and every single one, which can be murderous. ;)

I do all my own codeing, but I don't like to have to save and close the file to view it like you do with NotePad. So I just use Homesite 4.5.2 to view/edit my codeing and preview what it will look like.

You didn't have to close the file in Notepad in order to view it!! All you gotta do is save it and then refresh or reload the file in your browser, and ta-da!

True.. This thread is alot longer then I thought It would be, lol.

And more views than I thought possible.