novaservers.com ?

[imation]

i was just wondering if any of you have tried using this FWP. it offers unlimited space, cgi, and ftp access.

http://www.novaservers.com

looks like junk, but just wondering if anybody has used em.

Thanks

[Nick]

Considering the fact that it's a ripped namezero domain hiding a DHS.org domain, my guess is that it's some guy running a host off his DSL/CABLE/T1 with an extra PC or his PC at his house.

[LeX]

They didn't mention anything about not being able to host porn sites in their TOS... this scares me. I wouldn't want my site to be hosted with that kind of FWP.

[Edited by LeX on 01-06-2001 at 05:20 AM]

[RNilsson]

Hmm...Well...I don't want to make any enemies here, but if i would even consider trusting my production website to a win32 system, is that it runs NT/W2K and apache.

I have tried quite a few, Ominhttpd, sambar, apache + a few more found at tucows, and i like the simplicity of omnihttpd, but the reliability of apache, for my dev-plattform on win98.

I wont even use my dsl-connected linux server with other then my dev-site.

But...
That's just my 2-cents for the thread.

[Mrh0ax]

site is hard to read, i dont trust sites created with front page :)

[Technics]

The owner made it clear on his site he required a webdesign.

[novaservers]

Everyone,
Novaservers.com Has not been down, it is extremly reliable.. It is ran off of a 833mhz Windows 2000 Advanced Server..(extremly stable) I have 50 happy clients not one of them has complained... Get the facts before you start Complaining...

Regards,
Novaservers CEO
Jesse Angell

[Mrh0ax]

why not a real domain and not a dhs domain??

[novaservers]

Can't afford it, Unless someone gives me money.. theres nothing i can do about it

Regards,
Novaservers CEO
Jesse Angell

[Mrh0ax]

you can afford to have a web company and not a domain that costs 10$ ????

[Technics]

MrHoax - I think your the last person to be giving advice on domains.

Nova - It doesnt seem right that you can afford to pay the bandwidth (or your net conection fee in this case) and not afford a real domain.

I don't have anything against what your doing but buy a real domain. If your going todo a fwp do it right.

[Mrh0ax]

gkg.net is a place to buy domains

just a namezero domain doesnt seem right for a FWP :)

technics:: i would of bought my own domain if i had a PO box, a long time ago :)

i am going to get one soon

[novaservers]

I have not put any money into novaservers.com as of yet.. I dont have money

[Technics]

not a good wayto start a fwp without some cash behind you.

[Nick]

Originally posted by novaservers
Windows 2000 Advanced Server..(extremly stable)


The words ''Windows'' and ''stable'' do not belong in the same sentece.


Originally posted by novaservers
I have 50 happy clients not one of them has complained...


50 eh? IMHO, that's really not something you should be happy about...

[NC_TOM]

How did you get the server and the connection in that case?

If you want to provide quality services, you will need to put some money in sooner or later. You have just told everyone here that your FWP is not financially stable. Not a good way to gain the trust of future clients. What about when you need new hardware? "Oh, can't afford it. Bye bye Novaservers."

[Mandrake]

Originally posted by Mrh0ax
gkg.net is a place to buy domains

just a namezero domain doesnt seem right for a FWP :)

technics:: i would of bought my own domain if i had a PO box, a long time ago :)

i am going to get one soon


Why do you need a PO Box to purchase a domain??? I've purchased several without one.

[Nick]

Originally posted by Mandrake
Why do you need a PO Box to purchase a domain??? I've purchased several without one.

Home addresses cannot be traced through post office boxes. Which is why most people use them on the 'net.

[Mandrake]

Originally posted by Nick

Originally posted by novaservers
Windows 2000 Advanced Server..(extremly stable)


The words ''Windows'' and ''stable'' do not belong in the same sentece.


Originally posted by novaservers
I have 50 happy clients not one of them has complained...


50 eh? IMHO, that's really not something you should be happy about...

Windows Millenium Edition has proven to be very stable so far... Also Windows NT 4.0 has always been rock solid. :)

[novaservers]

I cannot afford anything @ my age, I'm 13..
my pic is
http://novaserver.2y.net/jesse/jesse/jesse.jpg
Sorry.

Regards,
Novaservers CEO
Jesse Angell

[Nick]

Originally posted by novaservers
I cannot afford anything @ my age, I'm 13.. my pic is
http://novaserver.2y.net/jesse/jesse/jesse.jpg
Sorry.


This explains a lot...

[Mrh0ax]

i have windows me and it is VERY stable, the programs are not that stable.. heh

i dont want my home address on the net availavble to ANYone who wants to know it, sam eiwth my phone number, voicemail, microphone and net2phone :)

just something i dont wnat to have, once i get a PO box i will buy a few domains and i will sign up with sponsors


[Edited by Mrh0ax on 01-06-2001 at 03:36 PM]

[Mrh0ax]

http://novaserver.2y.net/jesse/jesse/computers.jpg
my computer looks like the one on the right, almost just like it :)

[novaservers]

Hardware is not a problem in any way shape or form. I have enough hardware to last.. And access to tons more (I upgrade the server often), (during upgrades server does not go down either).. Another thing to reply to the 50 user.. I am extremly happy with the 50 users i've gain by word of mouth , When i've only been running for a little over a week.. If something spreads by word of mouth, the person is recommending it, meaning it is good :)

Regards,
Novaservers CEO
Jesse Angell

[Edited by novaservers on 01-06-2001 at 03:50 PM]

[Mrh0ax]

i can help with design, it wont cost you anything

email me at urdad@taz.tc and i will design your site for free :)

[razor]

all i saw was 2 pcs. is that the server? and how do u afford hardware if you can't afford a $10 domain?

[Gayowulf]

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all i saw was 2 pcs. is that the server? and how do u afford hardware if you can't afford a $10 domain
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Why does everyone always have to start bickering about something? it always stars off legit enough but takes of on a tangent...

let the CEO get it all sorted it out, its only been a week. Everyone has to start somewhere and there is always something to be learned from an experience. if novaservers flops, most likely it was kinda fun, and it would be easier next time.

Best of luck, Jesse and dont let tem get to you

also. it seems to be down

[coolguy23]

ya...i can't look at the pics cuz it's down rite now so better get it back up or you'll have 50 unhappy clients ;)

[Nick]

Originally posted by Mrh0ax
i have windows me and it is VERY stable, the programs are not that stable.. heh


I'm not talking about PC stability, I'm talking about webserver stability on windows, which from my experiences is, well, ----ty. *NIX is the way to go as far as webservers go and no one will convice me otherwise.

[Koolguy]

What's next? A host running off a Palm Pilot?

[allanh]

hi, novaserver boss. May I make a suggestion. I think that to maintain the quality of your services, you need to firstly restrict the number of members you take in. Since you are just 13 and don't have much money, how are you supposed to keep the promise of being reliable and unlimited webspace?

[Nick]

I remember when little kids played with Legos. Now they're builing PC based servers. What the ****'s up with that :confused:

[Coolin]

Originally posted by Nick
I remember when little kids played with Legos. Now they're builing PC based servers. What the ****'s up with that :confused:
Times change... We'll get 6 year olds making programs with C++ in a few years :) (or not).

[Chicken]

Jesse, I played with legos. The picture is good. Just keep your offerings realistic.

Note that Jesse has not come here boasting and bragging, so give him a fair shot and try to help him.

Good luck...

[Nick]

Originally posted by Chicken
Note that Jesse has not come here boasting and bragging, so give him a fair shot and try to help him.


He has just as much fair shot as people who do boast and brag. And he probablly will get some nasty comments on his board, but they have nothing to do with any success he might acheive. It's his ability to deal with legit complaints and ignore the smartass ones that will decide if he fairs well or not. Hell, I could set here and tell him to give it up because his sorry --- fwp will never last. If he can ignore comments like that he might very well acheive great success. You people act as if someone telling some one that their fwp sucks and it will die soon kills the fwp. It's the owner's action which determine if it dies, not a smartass comment. Seems to me as if someone just wants someone else to blame.

[novaservers]

Ok the server was down for an hour today.. I had a little accident.. The server case is huge about as tall as me, I opened up the case and dropped the cover on my hand.. Resulting in bleeding all over had to goto the E.R to get stiches...
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and no, that is not a picture of the server, thats my personal room...
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I emailed my clients about the down time, they all laughed at me about the hand thing .. anyway..
Forgot who posted the nice stuff, Thanks :)
<br>
I have never had a complaint, Only questions about CGI.. And on average the reply is within an hour or so.

Regards,
Novaservers CEO
Jesse Angell

[Edited by novaservers on 01-07-2001 at 12:16 AM]

[novaservers]

Right now, I have plenty of hardware to handle the current members, When the time comes , and if i have no money, I will begain account restrictation.. that could be years.. who knows :)

Regards,
Novaservers CEO
Jesse Angell

[LeX]

Nice dog you've got... too bad my mom doesn't let me keep one.

[Datablocks]

Jesse, Sorry to hear about your hand! that must have sucked! :P

When I first started Datablocks.net, everyone said I would fail! that I would only last a few months.. hehe

well I've had it since aug. now and its working out great!
I have well over 10,000 customers now and growing daily!

And unlike most FWP's i'm making $$$ :)

Just wanted to say, dont give up on it.. who knows, maybe it will take off.. just because your only 13 dont mean anything.. I was only 15 and I started a dialup ISP!!

If you need the $10 to get a real domain, give me a shout.. I'll even host the DNS for ya.. :)

also, if you want to start making some $$ from those signups give me a shout..

jmayor@datablocks.net

take care of that hand

John

[Gayowulf]

http://cb19566-a.austin1.mn.home.com
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[programmer2k]

hmmm

[Nick]

Originally posted by novaservers
I have never had a complaint, Only questions about CGI.. And on average the reply is within an hour or so.


Just wondering, but what happens when youu have to go to school, or go out?

Also, (this might have been already asked) what connection speed do you have and how much allowed bandwidth?

[novaservers]

Well, school is unavoidable... But i have Programs and another computer monitoring the server, First it forces the server to restart getting the webserver up again, and then calls my cell that I see at school.

Regards,
Novaservers CEO
Jesse Angell

[Robert]

DAMN Ya'll. So far the only posts that have been posted under this topic are attacking the company or the owner. I've only seen 2 or 3 suggestions and the rest have been complaining and -----ing. Ya'll need to quit that crap. Give him a break, he's trying to offer people a service and ya'll want to do is complain. Running a FWP isn't easy, you have to start somewhere. Give him a break.. just Chicken said.. he didn't come here looking for trouble, YOU GUYS BROUGHT HIM HERE to start trouble. And don't give me no crap about how you guys are trying to help him, you guys dis everyone who tries to open a fwp. If you dont have anything good to say, don't say anything at all.

[Nick]

Originally posted by robert
If you dont have anything good to say, don't say anything at all.

You sound like my fourth grade teacher, hehe :D.

[Mrh0ax]

i have been working on NovaServers new design.. at the top where the SSI error is will be the ad banners

this is just a template, please tell me what you think
http://urdad.twu.net/nova/

[Haze]

ok, not flaming here just stating the facts. This fwp as stated before is hosted on @home. Novaserver has avoided all questions of server bandwidth and connection speed. Its obvious to us. Is there plans to move this service to conection that can handle what you are giving?

[Technics]

No offense meant but his current design puts urs to shame.

[RedHat]

You should do something about the domainname, you're breaking the TOS of namezero !

Maybe you should put a limitation on your subscriptions, to make sure you can offer enough bandwidth.

Good luck Jesse

[Canuckkev]

I signed up for an account there. It would be fine if if wasn't so sloooooooow. It took about a minute to load my page. A FREAKIN MINUTE! On other servers I've tried it loads in 1 or 2 seconds. But what you're doing is great Jesse, but you need the hardware if you want to support your service.

[Koolguy]

Read this nova boy!


Taken from the @home Acceptable Use Policy

You may not run a server in connection with the @Home residential service, nor may you provide network services to others via the @Home residential service. The @Home residential service includes personal Webspace accounts for publishing personal Web pages. Examples of prohibited uses include, but are not limited to, running servers for mail, http, ftp, irc, and dhcp, and multi-user interactive forums. For information about @Work products for commercial or network services purposes, including commercial-grade remote LAN access, please see http://work.home.net.

[laurie]

1 minute!??

I tried by upping a transfer and redownloading it, and it didn't seem that bad, in double figures.. more than can be said most of the time on Geocities.

Of course, you cannot really run a huge service on your @home cable connection.. my cable provider caps our upstream at 128k to prevent abuse of service by running servers, although they do not prohibit running private servers.

[Canuckkev]

Okay, I just tried it again(about an hour or so later) and it didn't take a minute to load my homepage. Now, after navigating around my site, It seems as though the speed varies quite a bit. And Jesse, maybe you should make sure you're not breaking any rules with your ISP and Namezero.com

[razor]

the new desing is not found. is it still up?

[Cracker]

Hey, MrHoax: Your "twu.net" URL gave me an error 404.

[Coolin]

I can't seem to view it either.

[Mrh0ax]

yes, i know i cant seem to log on to twu.net, i will post it when i get my domain up in a day :)

[Technics]

Trust me you didnt miss much :).

[Webdude]

Originally posted by Datablocks
When I first started Datablocks.net, everyone said I would fail! that I would only last a few months.. hehe

You got the slack you did because you came in here acting like a cocky little know-it-all snot (-:

Now you are in with the regs and see things from our viewpoint....right?

[Haze]

well.. novaservers is down.. i wonder if @home caught on or its just another service outage for @home, or what?

[robin]

Originally posted by Coolin

Originally posted by Nick
I remember when little kids played with Legos. Now they're builing PC based servers. What the ****'s up with that :confused:
Times change... We'll get 6 year olds making programs with C++ in a few years :) (or not).

We're close. I taught 11 year olds Java and C++ at a computer camp a couple of years ago :) They're better at it than I am now :)

[RedHat]

I think Jesses little experiment went wrong, and we won't hear anything more from him.

Nice try, next time better luck Jesse ...

[allanh]

so, Jesse, will your webspace service be back up soon? Or all is lost forever?

[Nick]

Originally posted by allanh
so, Jesse, will your webspace service be back up soon? Or all is lost forever?

Twenty bucks says it's lost forever ;).

[Technics]

I'll bet ya 2p .....

[Haze]

no word from jesse.. i think his huge server fell on him this time.. hope hes ok?!?

[Nick]

Originally posted by evilhaze
no word from jesse.. i think his huge server fell on him this time.. hope hes ok?!?

Don't worry. The kid's probablly just getting the stitches for the cut from the server falling on him.

Or maybe the kid had to go to school and the server crashed while he was at school and he didn't want to mess with it anymore and just gave up...

[programmer2k]

One of the person that I know got banned from @home for running a web hosting service.
Poor guy.

probably somebody told @home about his web site..

[Chicken]

Is this an episode of South Park? (Who killed Jesse?) :)

When Jesse returns, I think some direction from the people who have 'been there and done that' would be helpful. Obviously there are a few problems, and if he wants to take his FWP to the next level (above just something for fun), he might appreciate a bit of helpful advice. I'm not sure if he's around still however?

[Cracker]

Originally posted by programmer2k
One of the person that I know got banned from @home for running a web hosting service.

Those crooks! They'll do anything to rip you off! [/sarcasm]

[novaservers]

Well everyone,
i am still alive!!!, I was in shock over the traffic my page got, I had hundreds and hundreds of signups over night.. I have a few hundred gig hard drive space total.. they were jammed pack over night.. On top of this, When i extended the drives a few more gig to continue hosting the current users and stop new signups.. Someone decided to take advantage of me offering CGI script access, they created a CGI script and formated the drives.. I am going to venture off into Palace hosting services, $5 a month (average price is $35) ,
Best Regards,
Jesse Angell
Novaservers CEo

[Woofcat]

Sorry, but if a cgi script can format your hard drives you're a f**king idiot and have no business offering hosting services, free or otherwise.

[Nick]

Originally posted by novaservers
Someone decided to take advantage of me offering CGI script access, they created a CGI script and formated the drives..

Excuses. They're like body parts, everybody's got one.

[Koolguy]

@home limits the upstream trasfer per month to 2GB and the fastest upload speed you can get is about 128kbps. How can you possibly host that number of sites on such a small connection? You do realise that you are violating @home's TOS so if your traffic grows any more they will notice and cancel your account.

[Edited by Koolguy on 01-09-2001 at 09:50 PM]

[novaservers]

CGI to any webhosting company is an EXTREMeLY HIGH SECURITY RISK, A perl script can format a hard drive, I suggest you do your research : )

Regards,
Jesse

[Gayowulf]

Uh OH

do i fell a "debate" coming on?

These guys are "never wrong", jesse. its gonna be a losing battle...

[Mrh0ax]

dude, what ''cgi'' script did he use??

you own teh comp and have access to it so tell us what cgi prog did this to you??

[Koolguy]

Erase the disk yes (if your server config is wacked) but it is not possible for perl to format the disk, there is no command or function that can do that.

[imation]

this post got some hellah views and replies....

[novaservers]

uhh *knock knock*!!! I cannot check and see what script he ran, If it formated the drive it was one.. duh.

[neon]

Don't let these guys put ya down. I could put the whole lot of them in a locked room with a key in the middle of the floor and they would all die because they were too busy fighting over who should use it. :)

[jimmacr]

Well, this is a good prospective to look at how secure windows is...

Jesse, I think you would be better off switching to linux/bsd as all hosts should, solaris if you can afford it. On linux or any UNIX derrived system, their is much tighter control over file ownership and permissions. This would make it allot harder for someone to ruin your server. Also providing PHP with safe_mode turned on instead of cgi can also provide much more security for your server. You will also be able to handle a much larger load then any windows server will be capable of. Apache on UN*X can handle up to 60,000,000 hits a day. Better check these figures with what IIS 4 or 5 could handle. Also, take a look at http://www.netcraft.net/security. Shows you how bad many windows servers are setup.

Also, you haven't mentioned much about your connection, besides it being an @home cablemodem. As many people wanred here, do not host off of it, they will kick you. Find some other connection.

--Jim
Aeolus Networks International

[Nick]

Originally posted by neon
I could put the whole lot of them in a locked room with a key in the middle of the floor and they would all die because they were too busy fighting over who should use it. :)

I'd win cause I'm a dirty fighter. I'd be wailing on people with my skateboard which has proved in the past to be not only a great mean of transportation and recreation, but a good weapon as well ;). Not to mention chics diggit.

[RedHat]

Will novaservers.com return, we could use some info Jesse ?

(btw I'll bet 50$ on NOT, the bets are opened!)

[Epgs]

hell i got 100 on it. if he does return though it could turn out to be interesting , see if he does switch os's and connections

[novaservers]

Server might be reutring on Linux running Apache, with a commercial @Home connection, This is still on the drawing boards, but you never know

[KNK]

Originally posted by Nick

Originally posted by neon
I could put the whole lot of them in a locked room with a key in the middle of the floor and they would all die because they were too busy fighting over who should use it. :)

I'd win cause I'm a dirty fighter. I'd be wailing on people with my skateboard which has proved in the past to be not only a great mean of transportation and recreation, but a good weapon as well ;). Not to mention chics diggit.

HeHe *pets his skateboard* "good skateboard" LOL .. I know exactly what you mean Nick ...

[Epgs]

thank oyu nova, i feel as though that would be much better. and more power to yah if oyu do return. oh and you might want to look into using pitbull software. i swear no hackers can get into it. we can debate over it all day but until the first person has hacked into it i won't believe anyone. oh and if you can go get 50,000 dollars. they have a contest running