best OS? XP, 98, 2000 [Archive]

jason

January 6th, 2002, 12:14

i am hearing very conflicting stories. i am trying to pick the best OS but some say go with XP others say Xp is horrible. some say stick with 98, o thers say 2000 instead. can someone give me the facts? does XP have a lot of bugs? the computer i am ordering comes with XP but i can request a different OS if i want.

oh yeah and has anyone ever actually had theit AMD Athalon overheat? i hear that can be a problem sometimes.
thanks

Robert

January 6th, 2002, 12:28

I build/sell/repair over 100 computers a day and I get this question asked more times in 1 day than I can blink. What I tell people is that to me the best OS so far (Windows Based) is Windows 98 Second Edition. It does have it's flaws but it is more stable than all the other operating systems. That is the first Operating System I install on any system I build. My second favor OS (and soon to be my first) is Windows XP Pro. Besides the fact that it has all the drivers for my system and it doesn't crash, I like how well it manages your ram and performance. I mean if I left my Win98SE computer running for a days straight, I would see it slowing down until I reboot. With XP, you can run it forever without it slowing down (being built on the same kernel as Win2k).

My answer is .. the Best OS is Win98SE.

max_payne

January 6th, 2002, 13:25

I like Windows 98 SE AND Windows XP.

max_payne

January 6th, 2002, 13:26

Windows XP is a solid-built operating system, and it is very user friendly!

Coolin

January 6th, 2002, 14:03

Windows 2000 is definately the best operating system available. It has all the stability of the NT platform with the functionality of Windows 98 SE minus the crap found in Windows XP.

Epgs

January 6th, 2002, 14:25

jason

January 6th, 2002, 14:30

Epgs

January 6th, 2002, 14:52

Originally posted by jason

what is this crap you speak of?

the user friendly screens, and all that stuff that makes it so they reccomend 256 megs of ram before using win xp. wheras win 2000 only is recommended as having 64 megs. yeah xp is full of a bunch of crap.

stu

January 6th, 2002, 15:49

Originally posted by jason
oh yeah and has anyone ever actually had theit AMD Athalon overheat? i hear that can be a problem sometimes.
thanks

Athlons do run very hot. But it's normal. As long as the heatsink is secure on the CPU it shouldn't burn itself to a crisp. You don't need to worry about the heat issue unless you are an overclocker.

jason

January 6th, 2002, 16:08

whats an overclocker? i am doing something on my computer pretty much 24/7 if i'm not working on something i am downloading something, even when i sleep. would this affect the heat issue? the heat thing really bothers me, why does it run hot in the first place?

Daniel

January 6th, 2002, 17:07

Originally posted by jason

what is this crap you speak of?

The big --- securtiy hole in the plug and play.

MN-Carl

January 6th, 2002, 17:16

Originally posted by Daniel

The big --- securtiy hole in the plug and play.

Yup ... they'll fix that soon .....

Daniel

January 6th, 2002, 17:43

Originally posted by cdudeuk18

Yup ... they'll fix that soon .....

There is a patch out already but some newbies most probably know there isn't.

vorapoap

January 6th, 2002, 17:52

Originally posted by Coolin
Windows 2000 is definately the best operating system available. It has all the stability of the NT platform with the functionality of Windows 98 SE minus the crap found in Windows XP.
Windows 2000 has 2 service packs now.. and SP 3 is now on beta testing.. Those service pakcs are sure to increase the strength of Windows 2000

When WIN3,WIN95,WIN98.WIN ME crash, you have no chance to get your OS back to work in normal.. but you can do this in WINXP and WIN2000

However, the best OS for me would be uhmm..MS-DOS.

PS. I heard someone saying BeOS is very good you can display vdo in many screens more than other OS.. but never tried. MacOS is good, too.. FreeBSD is the most stable OS...

trenzterra

January 6th, 2002, 19:24

XP rox0rs:classic2:

Coolin

January 6th, 2002, 23:28

Originally posted by trenzterra
XP rox0rs:classic2: XP is Windows 2000's mentally retarded cousin.

jason

January 6th, 2002, 23:35

i was told XP was better for media type uses, i download mp3s a lot and movies too but also use my computer for designing websites and such. don't really use it to play games. so what i see most of you saying is 98 or 2000? will my cd burner work oh either of them? i hear there are a lot of compatabliity problems with XP concerning applications and junk.

Akalon

January 6th, 2002, 23:37

Use 2000, 98 crashes too often and I don't like the look of XP ;)

Coolin

January 6th, 2002, 23:37

All you need is to download the necessary drivers beforehand and you'll be fine no matter what OS you use.

jason

January 7th, 2002, 13:35

hmm, i was going to go with XP but you say it needs 256 just run it? i don't like that too much. 2000 sounds cool but can it do everything 98 could? 98 was good to me but yes it crashes way too much.

also here another question can i get a Pentium 4 with PC2100? i've only seen AMD's with em. or can Pentium come with DDR ram? is is that only an AMD thing as well?

is there really is big difference between PC2100 and PC133??

Coolin

January 7th, 2002, 22:26

Originally posted by jason
hmm, i was going to go with XP but you say it needs 256 just run it? i don't like that too much. 2000 sounds cool but can it do everything 98 could? 98 was good to me but yes it crashes way too much.

also here another question can i get a Pentium 4 with PC2100? i've only seen AMD's with em. or can Pentium come with DDR ram? is is that only an AMD thing as well?

is there really is big difference between PC2100 and PC133?? XP's recommended RAM is 128megs. The absolute minimum is 64megs, but you're gonna be screwed with that much. Windows 2000's minimum is 32 and 64 is recommended.

Yes you can, but get it fast because Intel is suing Via, the manufacturer of chipsets allowing P4's to work with PC2100 DDR RAM, which btw, is much faster than a P4 using Rambus.

Get PC2100 or else, PC133 is outdated. PC2100 is much faster and will account for a lot of performance increase when put in relation to it's price as compared to PC133.

spec

January 7th, 2002, 22:53

If u want winxp to run smooth as it was designed to I recommend 512meg of ram. 256 would mean slow downs and no 64 would not be good at all

Myself I will not upgrade untill i see at LEAST 1 service pack.
The possible security problems that XP might have is pretty large.
Trust me when i say win2k is the best!

jason

January 8th, 2002, 01:50

Originally posted by Coolin
XP's recommended RAM is 128megs. The absolute minimum is 64megs, but you're gonna be screwed with that much. Windows 2000's minimum is 32 and 64 is recommended.

Yes you can, but get it fast because Intel is suing Via, the manufacturer of chipsets allowing P4's to work with PC2100 DDR RAM, which btw, is much faster than a P4 using Rambus.

Get PC2100 or else, PC133 is outdated. PC2100 is much faster and will account for a lot of performance increase when put in relation to it's price as compared to PC133.

i am getting at least 256 of ram on my computer. i want to have extra ram to play around with though. i think i'm going to go with 2000.

So my local computer store should be able to hook me me up with a Pentium 4 wtih PC2100 DDR RAM? that is awesome, exactly what i want. doing that wouldn't cause any tech problems would it? thanks!

Coolin

January 8th, 2002, 21:38

Originally posted by jason
So my local computer store should be able to hook me me up with a Pentium 4 wtih PC2100 DDR RAM? that is awesome, exactly what i want. doing that wouldn't cause any tech problems would it? thanks! It may cause some problems with warranty or other customer service stuff if Intel's lawsuit succeeds...
Why not get an Athlon XP? Those are much faster and cheaper.

BTW, Windows 2000 is a good choice, you will not regret it :)

Canuckkev

January 8th, 2002, 23:15

I have had bad luck with Win2k Pro. So, all I can say is it doesn't work great for everyone. I think XP would be the way to go. The bloating can be turned off I believe. It looks like lots of the features in WinXP can be useful. As for 98, it is outdated. You want your computer to last a long time, and 98 will be outdated in a few years.

I have never tried XP, but I would assume it's pretty good.

And about RAM, if your comp only has 128, you should buy a couple of 256 sticks right now. Or maybe some DDR. RAM is cheap(still?), and it makes performance a lot better.

jason

January 9th, 2002, 03:24

is 2000 just as easy to use as 98? i think i probably will just get an althalon but the overheating thing still bothers me. i guess they couldn't keep selling them if they overheated all the time though.

niv

January 9th, 2002, 16:42

2000 is WinME without the crashes. Simple....that and some 32 million lines more code than the Win9x family.

stu

January 9th, 2002, 17:16

Originally posted by Coolin
Yes you can, but get it fast because Intel is suing Via, the manufacturer of chipsets allowing P4's to work with PC2100 DDR RAM, which btw, is much faster than a P4 using Rambus.

Intel has also released their P4 chipset that supports DDR memory. It's a modified i845 chipset, which was the chipset that intel released last fall to allow SDRAM support for P4.

Coolin

January 9th, 2002, 20:44

Originally posted by stu

Intel has also released their P4 chipset that supports DDR memory. It's a modified i845 chipset, which was the chipset that intel released last fall to allow SDRAM support for P4. That shows how updated I am

Hobbes

January 9th, 2002, 23:09

Originally posted by jason
i am hearing very conflicting stories. i am trying to pick the best OS but some say go with XP others say Xp is horrible. some say stick with 98, o thers say 2000 instead. can someone give me the facts? does XP have a lot of bugs? the computer i am ordering comes with XP but i can request a different OS if i want.

oh yeah and has anyone ever actually had theit AMD Athalon overheat? i hear that can be a problem sometimes.
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NC_TOM

January 9th, 2002, 23:19

Originally posted by Coolin
Windows 2000 is definately the best operating system available. It has all the stability of the NT platform with the functionality of Windows 98 SE minus the crap found in Windows XP.

That is also my answer except I don't have much experience with XP. It's good to hear that XP is reliable; my school is switching over to it next year in a $50,000 computer upgrade.

NC_TOM

January 9th, 2002, 23:22

Originally posted by jason
whats an overclocker? i am doing something on my computer pretty much 24/7 if i'm not working on something i am downloading something, even when i sleep. would this affect the heat issue? the heat thing really bothers me, why does it run hot in the first place?

They're just made to run hot.

Overclocking is when you take a processor, get into the configuration and make it run faster than it's supposed to. This will work sometimes but other times it can fry your system. It's not really a good idea unless you know what you're doing and you're too poor to do a real upgrade. ;)

What I've heard is that all different speeds of Athlons are very very similar chips up until the XP line. That's why they run so hot according to a friend, is because AMD takes basically the same chip and clocks it higher and higher and releases it as a "newer, faster" chip.

jason

January 10th, 2002, 02:06

Originally posted by NC_TOM

They're just made to run hot.

Overclocking is when you take a processor, get into the configuration and make it run faster than it's supposed to. This will work sometimes but other times it can fry your system. It's not really a good idea unless you know what you're doing and you're too poor to do a real upgrade. ;)

What I've heard is that all different speeds of Athlons are very very similar chips up until the XP line. That's why they run so hot according to a friend, is because AMD takes basically the same chip and clocks it higher and higher and releases it as a "newer, faster" chip.

ok so your saying the Athalon XP doesn't run as hot as the older ones? Althon XP is probably what i am going to get, should i just get windows XP, is that made for the athalon XP? or is windows 2000 still a better choice?

LastActionHero

January 10th, 2002, 02:52

Originally posted by jason

ok so your saying the Athalon XP doesn't run as hot as the older ones? Althon XP is probably what i am going to get, should i just get windows XP, is that made for the athalon XP? or is windows 2000 still a better choice?

Yup. XP has a different core(palmilino?) which gives out less heat and is less hot.

Akalon

January 10th, 2002, 05:34

Originally posted by NC_TOM

What I've heard is that all different speeds of Athlons are very very similar chips up until the XP line. That's why they run so hot according to a friend, is because AMD takes basically the same chip and clocks it higher and higher and releases it as a "newer, faster" chip.

Bastards! Is that a fact? :confused:

stu

January 10th, 2002, 11:36

yep.. intel does it too..

jason

January 10th, 2002, 13:22

ok so i am getting an AMD athalon XP 1600+ Ghz, is windows 2k still the way to go?? please help me out i want to order this thing today.

jason

January 10th, 2002, 16:06

well i ordered the athalon XP with Windows 2k and a bunch of other goodies on it, i really hope i don't regret abandoning good ole pentium. thanks for your help in all of this guys, i really appreciate it.

NC_TOM

January 10th, 2002, 17:54

AMD works great, I doubt you'll have problems with it.

I wonder if I could just get, say, a 1.0 GHz Athlon and overclock it to 1.4, and experience the same performance that I'd get from spending extra money on buying a 1.4?

niv

January 10th, 2002, 18:04

Originally posted by NC_TOM

my school is switching over to it next year in a $50,000 computer upgrade.

My school is saying ---- microsoft, we're using debian linux + GNOME on most of our machines, the others are macs with OS9 and a few are installed with win2000 professional.