View Full Version : Very disappointed in my host.
Vegeta
January 16th, 2002, 15:50
Im new to Paid Hosting and Ill be glad to admit that my first Choice was A MISTAKE. The host I used is Techexcell which could be found at www.techexcell.com
Once i logged into the account I was automatically told that I could have no cgi-based flat file forums -->which meant to me Ultimate Bulletin Board. Fine i decided to go with a PHP based forum. Somehow the board was not able to properly set itself up with MYSQL which i properly activated. They also supposedly have a sendmail box which sends the email which Cgi programs send. These emails were never sent. ON top of that I uploaded a couple of images that were to them copyrighted (dbz pictures, anime pictures) the next day i got an email from them telling me i was banned. All these things deeply got me disappointed. I mean when i finally beleive that Paid HOsting (i know $20 a year isnt much but its still paid hosting isnt it) is going to be better somehow the free hosting tends to be better. Just look at netfirms: I have my Ubb forum with them and has been with them for a very long time and never have they banned me for this. Also i have anime pictures with them and they were never deleted and I can rest assured that they will be there tommorrow.
Is there a host that will meet my requirements. I need at least 200 mbs of space, will allow me to have my CGI forum UP and my ANIME pictures up. Has a cgi-bin (of course) and at least 1gb transfer, and correctly works and is stable. FOR A CHEAP PRICE..
The_ReVenger
January 16th, 2002, 16:14
- PHP
- CGI
- MYSQL
- Good hosting ......
- 200mb
- 10gb bandwith
www.aletiahosting.com , i have them also (www.powergamez.com), they are good, 9.95$ a month
Bruce
January 16th, 2002, 16:18
Aletiahosting doesn't allow CGI (flat-file) forums though.
megapuzik
January 16th, 2002, 16:31
Originally posted by Phrozen
Aletiahosting doesn't allow CGI (flat-file) forums though.
are you sure about that ??
thanx...
bballfreak
January 16th, 2002, 17:20
hey, I just signed up with Perpetual Hosting. They are pretty good. They had a special going on the WHT forum - $35 a year
http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=32166
I'm not sure if it's still on though but their normal plans are pretty good anyway. $5 a month for 100 megs.
Bruce
January 16th, 2002, 17:29
Originally posted by megapuzik
are you sure about that ??
thanx...
http://aletiahosting.com/policies/aup.html
Apparenty they are just "strongly discouraged" now.
Techwarez
January 16th, 2002, 17:31
Is that right i was going to host my yabb board at Aletiahosting but if they dont allow cgi then my yabb wont work is this true ??????
Techwarez
January 16th, 2002, 17:34
Found the answer myself look here all
Forum Software: Only one instance of an online forum should be run from a single hosting account (even those with multi-hosted domains enabled). Forum software supported and recommended include vBulletin and phpBB (mySQL version). Forum software using flat-file databases (e.g. UltimateBB, YaBB, IkonBoard flat-file version) are strongly discouraged and may result in the suspension of the affected account.
Need a site that is well fast and good that lets me put up a yabb board
any help please
Vegeta
January 16th, 2002, 17:48
Both ikonboard and yabb offer hosting that I believe will allow cgi-based forums to be put into them. Im not exactly sure if this is correct. The reason i haven gotten them as a host is because i really need cheap hosting and at the same time i want the features i previously asked.
Vegeta
January 16th, 2002, 17:53
I still dont understand how paid hosts can blab and brag about server resources and minimal stuff like that ( I mean my forum has about 10 members and the max ill get is probably 30). Im pretty sure this wont slow down their servers even down to 10%.
Netfirms is a free host correct . Now their resources should be a lot more clogged then a paid host. Now the question is how can netfirms never bother me or anyone about this forum cgi-based flat forums. The logic is that the more CASH that a host gets in their hand the more speedy servers and stable servers they should offer.
Can anyone answer this ?
PyschoPath
January 16th, 2002, 19:03
They're --- holes.. myacen.com or www.datapacket.net and if you're planning a DBZ site (by your US Dub name, you seem to be) don't expect that hosts won't jack up your prices after you get a lot of traffic..
Vegeta
January 16th, 2002, 20:24
So these hosts you listed:
Youre saying I will be satisfied with them, I mean i really dont ask much just a place for my site, my pics, and my cgi-forum..thats all I ask for.
PyschoPath
January 16th, 2002, 20:30
I think myacen.com is the best for you, it's from 24.95 to 399.95 a year, and it is worth it for the 400 a year..I personally would like the 79.95 plan. They give you a lot of transfer, and plenty of space, I have 980 DBZ pics in my folder, and it's only 79 megs..
Vegeta
January 16th, 2002, 20:33
ok what about the cgi-based forum.
PyschoPath
January 16th, 2002, 20:40
CGI is old, and outdated, try a PHP forum, I'll be happy to set it up for you, it's quite simple, www.woltlab.de it is far better than any other free forum. But, I don't recommend running CGI too much, but hosts do allow it, I just don't like CGI as much as I do PHP, it's stable, and quite fast, I know it is a one sided opinion, besides, more and more hosts are offering a MySQL DB, and PHP scripting, to think about it, all are :-), CGI does have its great spots, like the Ikonboard, which is the best board I have ever seen (at 100% potential)
Vegeta
January 16th, 2002, 20:44
the only reason why i want a cgi forum is because to me all the ones that i want exist mainly in cgi and if they do have a php version its not the latest version of it as compared to CGI. just look at yabb board. I really need either yabb board or ikonboard.
PyschoPath
January 16th, 2002, 20:50
YABB is banned by a few hosts, since it sucks up resources easily, and bandwith, and PHP boards don't need the latest version, since PHP is not as buggy as CGI/PERL..
niv
January 16th, 2002, 20:50
No, it's because the PHP boards are less buggy than the Perl ones, not that Perl itself is buggy.
Vegeta
January 16th, 2002, 20:51
Ok i see, do they have a PHP version of Ikonboard though or if I use the php version of yabb will i be able to use those hacks on it (yabb).
ebird
January 16th, 2002, 21:28
you should check yabb.info for the hacks for yabb se.
It seems aletiahoting allows iB if you choose to use mysql db.
Coight
January 16th, 2002, 21:30
Originally posted by Vegeta
Ok i see, do they have a PHP version of Ikonboard though or if I use the php version of yabb will i be able to use those hacks on it (yabb).
Yabb is a shocker. We have now banned it from our service. With one user active on a forum it was using 20% of the servers resources. As for the hacks I guess it would be fine, but as someone suggested is:
Burning Board - http://www.woltlab.de/
OpenBB: http://www.iansoft.com (exactly like vbulletin)
Regards
Rob
Chicken
January 17th, 2002, 02:49
Originally posted by Myacen Network
OpenBB: http://www.iansoft.com (exactly like vbulletin)
Rob, just a question. Have you run a vBulletin forum? I'd like to know how the guts and backend function compared to vBulletin. People talk a lot about this or that board, but I can't figure out who has actually used ones they compare/recommend.
Coight
January 17th, 2002, 02:59
Originally posted by Chicken
Rob, just a question. Have you run a vBulletin forum? I'd like to know how the guts and backend function compared to vBulletin. People talk a lot about this or that board, but I can't figure out who has actually used ones they compare/recommend.
We are actually using vbulletin.
http://www.myacen.com/forums/
Iansoft was getting sued by vbulletin because they copied all the code from vbulletin. But apparently it was rewritten. Look at the gui looks practically the same.
PyschoPath
January 17th, 2002, 11:08
Same with Burning Board :P
Bruce
January 17th, 2002, 12:24
As I have said before though, the appearance can be compared to vBulletin, but the admin panels of all the free forums are lacking many, many things. The users of the forums probably wouldn't notice much of a difference, but the people who administrate and moderate the forms can surely see a difference between vBulletin's admin options and those of the free forums.
vorapoap
January 17th, 2002, 15:20
I am quite sure that you are so happy with PHPBB2 now :) Phrozen.
NexDog
January 17th, 2002, 18:27
Gotta say that there's very little competition to vbulletin. It's quite fast and kind on the server. Pages seem to double load, but it happens so fast you hardly notice it.
Those flat-file boards are just bad news unless you a dedicated server for that kind of thing. Still get plenty of requests to host UBB, YaBB, iK so I'm thinking about setting up a crazy fast box just for these guys.
Bruce
January 17th, 2002, 19:10
Originally posted by vorapoap
I am quite sure that you are so happy with PHPBB2 now :) Phrozen. It works for now. I'm planning on getting vBulletin sometime in the future though.
Vegeta
January 17th, 2002, 21:27
So vbulletin normally comes in PHP. Anyways IF PHP is better why dont all these BB companies release their code in php first and then cgi if they want.
Jedito
January 18th, 2002, 05:37
Originally posted by Vegeta
I still dont understand how paid hosts can blab and brag about server resources and minimal stuff like that ( I mean my forum has about 10 members and the max ill get is probably 30). Im pretty sure this wont slow down their servers even down to 10%.
Netfirms is a free host correct . Now their resources should be a lot more clogged then a paid host. Now the question is how can netfirms never bother me or anyone about this forum cgi-based flat forums. The logic is that the more CASH that a host gets in their hand the more speedy servers and stable servers they should offer.
Can anyone answer this ?
Probably you never saw how those Flat database Forum affect a server's performance.
Korval
January 18th, 2002, 14:48
Originally posted by Vegeta
So vbulletin normally comes in PHP. Anyways IF PHP is better why dont all these BB companies release their code in php first and then cgi if they want.
It's been a while since I last visited infopops UBB forums, but I believe that they have already released a PHP version of UBB.
Does anyone know how much effect a UBB (CGI) with an average of 3 active users on the forums can have on server resources? Just a rough estimate...
Vegeta
January 18th, 2002, 15:03
Ok i want to set up vbulletin board up when i sign up for myacen but i want to know if the pakage ($50 a year one) comes with mysql and everything i need for the board to work properly.
Korval
January 18th, 2002, 15:41
You can definately run vbulletin at Myacen. Your better off browsing their hosting page to see if there's a plan that covers enough bandwidth limits for the price you want to pay.
Korval
January 18th, 2002, 15:43
Should be fine ;)
Vegeta
January 18th, 2002, 16:00
Ok for the $50 a year since i want my site and the forum on it i will be given 10gb of bandwith <--this is per month right--> I dont think this 10gb will be for that year right. Also there is no setup fee on this right.
Bruce
January 18th, 2002, 16:08
Originally posted by Vegeta
<--this is per month right-->Correct
Also there is no setup fee on this right. Correct.
Archbob
January 18th, 2002, 17:31
I think a host at www.topsitelists.com has Ikonoboard set up already for the account.
Vegeta
January 18th, 2002, 17:41
psycho what do u mean exactly by they will jack up my prices. The hosting i signed up with at myacen.com Business Package of 250 mbs and 15gb. I DONT EVER THINK i ever surpassed 500 mbs of bandwith in my old site. What do u mean by "they will jack up my prices"<- i could understand they could do that only if i go over my bandwith which is 15gb/month.
Vegeta
January 18th, 2002, 18:54
If i use myacen will they allow me to have links to emulators and roms [dbz] as part of my site. *Note these files will not be stored on their server. Can they be stored on their server.
Coight
January 18th, 2002, 21:41
Originally posted by Vegeta
If i use myacen will they allow me to have links to emulators and roms [dbz] as part of my site. *Note these files will not be stored on their server. Can they be stored on their server.
We won't increase prices. We do not allow roms on our servers.
Vegeta
January 18th, 2002, 21:49
i know u probably dont allow this on the server. But will you allow links in pages to roms or episodes and such which WONT BE ON your server. BASICALLY what im asking is if you allow links to be on the page within the server, thats it, (the files wont be located in your servers)
*NOTE that the files (roms and eps) are not on the myacen server. Just a emulator link in a page in the server.
Coight
January 18th, 2002, 22:04
Use of the Myacen Network's service to transmit any material (by e-mail, uploading, posting or otherwise) that infringes any copyright, trademark, patent, trade secret or other proprietary rights of any third party, including, but not limited to, the unauthorized copying of copyrighted material, the digitization and distribution of photographs from magazines, books, or other copyrighted sources, and the unauthorized transmittal of copyrighted software.
Are you sure you read the terms of service :)
Vegeta
January 19th, 2002, 09:13
Lets say i skimmed by them : just one question ? How are anime pictures allowed then since to my other host they were copyrighted material.
Coight
January 19th, 2002, 09:16
Pictures are a touchy subject most pictures on websites have been in some way illegally obtained. With all the sites out their I don't see other DBZ sites getting shutdown for using these images. I would think the creators of DBZ would promote it.
niv
January 19th, 2002, 09:18
Originally posted by Myacen Network
Pictures are a touchy subject most pictures on websites have been in some way illegally obtained...I would think the creators of DBZ would promote it.
And every other fan site/image gallery out there, which isn't fair, because we are limited to just images [all of which are "illegally obtained" unless they are fan drawn].
Vegeta
January 19th, 2002, 09:24
ok thank you. Thats what i wanted to hear.
ac3
January 19th, 2002, 09:28
Originally posted by Myacen Network
Pictures are a touchy subject most pictures on websites have been in some way illegally obtained. With all the sites out their I don't see other DBZ sites getting shutdown for using these images. I would think the creators of DBZ would promote it.
does that mean myacen lets you host a fan page with copyrighted images?
Vegeta
January 19th, 2002, 10:01
im having mysql errors. Somehow i cant connect to the database using vbulletin.
MN-Carl
January 19th, 2002, 10:03
Originally posted by ac3
does that mean myacen lets you host a fan page with copyrighted images?
As long as you are the copyright owner ... or have written permission from the copyright owner.
Coight
January 19th, 2002, 10:07
Originally posted by Vegeta
im having mysql errors. Somehow i cant connect to the database using vbulletin.
Vegeta, please use our board for support related issues:
http://www.myacen.com/forums/
This thread has gone offtopic, could a mod please close this thread.
Vegeta
January 19th, 2002, 10:11
k sorry
solved the mysql error anyway.
Korval
January 19th, 2002, 11:57
Originally posted by Korval
Does anyone know how much effect a UBB (CGI) with an average of 3 active users on the forums can have on server resources? Just a rough estimate...
Yes its gone off topic, hasn't it? :D So nobody can give me an answer then?
MN-Carl
January 19th, 2002, 12:02
Originally posted by Korval
Yes its gone off topic, hasn't it? :D So nobody can give me an answer then?
ERM ... average 3 users ... hmmm ... not much .. depending on how much your forum is used / posted on ....
but i would recommened using wbb .. or some kindof php board .. as it uses alot less server resources ... or if your struck with cgi .. use ikonboard 3 full
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