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atzah
January 10th, 2001, 14:29
Which is according to you the most reliable no-ads server for a small web site without cgi, php just normal html. The most important is speed.

Mrh0ax
January 10th, 2001, 14:45
well, these are my favs

http://www.liquid2k.com
http://www.f2s.com
http://www.sphosting.com
redrival.com // un stable //

EccentrixDotCom
January 10th, 2001, 15:41
a little biased, but
http://eccentrix.com

Nick
January 10th, 2001, 17:14
Originally posted by Mrh0ax
http://www.liquid2k.com


They own anything you upload. Even if you copyright it, once you upload something. It's THEIRS.

Cracker
January 10th, 2001, 19:03
Originally posted by Nick

Originally posted by Mrh0ax
http://www.liquid2k.com


They own anything you upload. Even if you copyright it, once you upload something. It's THEIRS.

Kill the little bastards at liquid2k. What gives them the right to own anything they did not create? Don't they have ANY respect for their members' content? I guess not, since it's not bringing them *money*! I must ask, is money everything?
When a host owns the copyrights to your work, they could all of a sudden switch from ad-free to ads, and they could sue you if you take *your* content off their servers and put it up somewhere else because they would be legally protected.
Taking copyright for someone else's creation without their consent.. that is just wrong!

Nick
January 10th, 2001, 20:22
Originally posted by Cracker
Taking copyright for someone else's creation without their consent.. that is just wrong!

That's the thing, it's in the TOS so all the people who don't read it get screwed :p. So technically, there ain't a damn thing wrong with it, which is the sad part :(.

EccentrixDotCom
January 10th, 2001, 21:18
Think about this though
Find a pirated copy of winblows 2000 Advanced server edition, upload it to your account<muiltiple ones> ok, now they own it, but it is illegal, call the feds!

Alright so a little extreme, but with my experience as a free host, you take burden of legalities off yourself, not add to the problems. With the sheer volume of attacks you get, taking ownership of what is on there just adds major problems. My 2 cents

Webdude
January 10th, 2001, 21:27
According to the Digital Millineum Copyright Act of 1998, if the host doesnt know about that program on their servers, then they are completely immune to any kind of legal action or lawsuit. Theres not a thing the Feds could do except ask them to remove it. As long as the host does not respond, there's no proof they know about it. That means the Feds would be just as helpless as you, they know it, and would ignore your notification to prevent their embarrasment over the issue.

Of course, for the host it is a bandwidth cost issue. Most would remove the illegal files as soon as they know about them. Even if legality cant make them remove it, cost issues will.

Mrh0ax
January 10th, 2001, 21:38
i signed up with liquid2k awhle ago, but never used it good thing for me :)

Tater
January 10th, 2001, 23:40
reliable no-ads server
*This is an oxymoron* :p

NC_TOM
January 11th, 2001, 18:36
Originally posted by Webdude
According to the Digital Millineum Copyright Act of 1998, if the host doesnt know about that program on their servers, then they are completely immune to any kind of legal action or lawsuit. Theres not a thing the Feds could do except ask them to remove it. As long as the host does not respond, there's no proof they know about it. That means the Feds would be just as helpless as you, they know it, and would ignore your notification to prevent their embarrasment over the issue.

Of course, for the host it is a bandwidth cost issue. Most would remove the illegal files as soon as they know about them. Even if legality cant make them remove it, cost issues will.
Wow.. that's good to hear that we aren't really liable for that stuff; I have gotten some mildly threatening snail mails from lawyers at some of these places and I don't want to get shut down. :P

At the same time, it leaves a big gray area.. is it really defined by whether the host "knows about it" or not? Anyone could make themselves a "web hosting" company and put up warez sites legally until they are asked to shut them down..

Cracker
January 11th, 2001, 19:02
Originally posted by NC_TOM
Anyone could make themselves a "web hosting" company and put up warez sites legally until they are asked to shut them down..

No, there has to be some way for them to find out.

Webdude
January 11th, 2001, 21:03
Well I have some attorney friends, one whom sent me all the DMCA info. That is definitly a grey area. Whether snail mail or email, theres no prrof. Even with Certified mail, theres only proof that the postal service supposedly gave the letter to 'someone' at the physical location. About the only way to prove it is if you have an Attorney hand deliver the request on paper and have an authorized rep of the company sign a legal paper acknowledging reciept of notice.

There's also a certain way for them to notify you. They have to put "under penalty of perjury, I claim this is our copyright" and several other things. If someone simply emails a host saying "This user of yours is infringing on my copyrights and you HAVE to take them down or I will sue"...guess what, the host now has the option to sue, and the copyright holder doesnt. The DMCA was designed for the exclusive protection of ISP's and OPP's. There are certain rules you have to follow though.

If someone sends you a PROPER Notification of Infringement, you CANNOT kill the site. You either have to move it or disable it. You see, if the webmaster you just shut down files a counter notification, you then have to allow the site back up. If he does that, you are completly out of it and are immune to any lawsuits. If a lawsuit is file against you, you can countersuit and would automatically win and recover any damages from the suing party. If you catch an infringing site before it's reported, you can kill it, if it is reported to you by the copyright holder, then it is under different rules. After the counter notification and you being required to allow it back up, you fall back into the general rules. You can then remove it of your own accord.

All hosts here need to read and get a full understanding of the DMCA. It does hold authority over any host's TOS, Terms, Use policy, or Privacy policy. It doesnt matter if you are a Pay Host or a Free Host....the DMCA covers ALL hosts in operation within the United States. I believe Canada, if not already, is about to adopt the DMCA into their law also.

hostfifty
January 11th, 2001, 23:50
There is always http://www.host50.com
We've been around for roughly 6 weeks, and are growing into a decent program, if you can live with our design.
Regards,

Cracker
January 12th, 2001, 11:45
What? You're still alive, hostfifty? Well, I'm shocked.

NC_TOM
January 12th, 2001, 14:46
Took me 40 seconds to access your host from the T1 at school. Are you on cable/dsl/isdn??

Truly, just hire some startup designer to make you a $100 design, ANYTHING would be better than what you have now.

Canuckkev
January 12th, 2001, 15:38
Yeah, I agree. That colour scheme is horrible. When do you plan on having FTP?