XP really sucks

[LeX]

Windows XP really sucks... it really does suck. Really, it sucks. It sucks, really.

I hate it. I'm gonna nuke it once I finish downloading this stupid 661MB file @ ~7kb/s.

I'm not really too excited about going back to Win98, but if I can't get my hands on 2000, I'll just have to live with it. :mad:

BTW, XP sucks. Do not get it. Stabler my ---. You would not believe how frequently it crashes. I must've made about 200 reports to Micro---- (not exaggerating). XP makes 98 seem like DOS - stable (somewhat) and fast.

[Robert]

Like the saying goes "I may disagree what with you have to say, but i'll defend you till the end".. I disagree with your statement. XP is a type of OS that it depends on your system to function properly. I don't recieve crashes or even freezes w/ XP. No Blue screens or all of a sudden restarts. I average around 200-300 kb/s when downloading files (When I downloaded Redhat I was gettign 212 kb/s) .. (I'm on cable).

Win98SE is/was the best OS made. But XP is far more superior than XP.

My recomendation: Give it a try. If it doesn't work for you, than your system isn't built for XP. my system wasn't built for XP, but being it's only 3-4 months old (i built it myself, but have upgraded since), XP runs terrific.

XP Doesn't suck. It's your computer that does.

[LeX]

XP has nothing to do with my slow connection speed. In fact, it's sped it up quite a bit (I think), by allowing more bits and bytes to come thru and blah-blah-however-or-whatever-those-acceleration-proggies-do-blah-blah.

My computer can definitely handle XP... Athlon 1ghz + 256 MB of RAM. XP can't handle anything except crashes.

When it crashes, no BSOD shows up. Instead, it just freezes. When it doesn't crash, it screws up whenever I reboot (says some critial problems were fixed and reported upon reboot).

And there's something wrong with its compatibilities. Lots of programs refuse to run - says it's not the correct Win32s format. ---- that.

So it's bye-bye XP forever for me. Some eXPerience. :mad::mad:

[Robert]

Why is it that I have NONE of these problems? I run my usual programs .. AOL , Winamp, Office XP, WS_FTP, DreamWeaver, Fireworks all of that and NEVER do I have a problem.

Again, your system can't handle XP. That's all to it. So what its a 1GHZ? It can't handle it. Stop dissing XP cuz it's your system. I dont have any of those problems.

[LeX]

Lemme ask you then: how come I never have any of these problems when I was using 98? Or 95? Or 3.1???!!?

[ADD]
There's nothing wrong with my system, man, it's (near)top of the line. XP is screwed, simple. You don't see any of the problems I'm having now on any other versions.

BTW, I've tried it twice, this is the last straw.

[Weapon]

Originally posted by LeX
..... I must've made about 200 reports to Micro---- (not exaggerating) .....
I am sure u didn't "buy" it and I am also sure that u did report errors to them, so ready to get your --- sued :biggrin2:

[LeX]

Originally posted by Weapon
I am sure u didn't "buy" it and I am also sure that u did report errors to them, so ready to get your --- sued :biggrin2: It came on a CD that says "Windows XP" on it. That's all I'm saying. :devious2:

[LeX]

Instead of getting XP, I recommend everybody "upgrade" to 2000 instead. None of those stupid fancy memory eating oohs and ahhs, and it's been proven to be fairly stable.

[Akalon]

Windows 98SE is not a good OS.

[MN-Carl]

I've had XP since i came out .. never crashed once ... not even froozen .. i use my pc around 10 - 12 hours per day ... ( leave it on some times ) ... .. i use high ram taking games .. i manage database applications at same time as using Dreamweaver .. no problems ...

I think its your PC .. what HD have you got ??? .. and have you done ALL of the updates ??

[Akalon]

I'm starting to want XP, no crashes is very tempting :) Anyone know where I can purchase it for free? I cant download it because it is like 500mb :(

[Weapon]

for free? ROTFLMAO wear ripped clothing to Bill's house saying that you are poor and beg him and he just might let you have one :D

[Giancarlo]

Originally posted by Akalon
Windows 98SE is not a good OS.

I strongly disagree. I use Win98 SE on my computer and as long as I optimize my hard drive every once in awhile and run Norton to fix errors, it works smoothly. I did not upgrade to XP because I tested it on a friends computer and hated it. It is slow (my friend has an Althon XP 1500) and has too much crap I would never use.

[niv]

It always depends on what you do with your machine, and many hardware configurations suck for the Win9x family.

Plus, if you get your copy of Windows from Dell, it's GUARANTEED to suck.

[Akalon]

Originally posted by Giancarlo


I strongly disagree. I use Win98 SE on my computer and as long as I optimize my hard drive every once in awhile and run Norton to fix errors, it works smoothly. I did not upgrade to XP because I tested it on a friends computer and hated it. It is slow (my friend has an Althon XP 1500) and has too much crap I would never use.

I have used 98 for about 4 years now, and I cant go through the day without having to restart at least 5 times. If 1 program freezes, you alt+ctrl+del it and then that stuffs up another program or whatever.

[LeX]

by cdudeuk18
I think its your PC .. what HD have you got ??? .. and have you done ALL of the updates ??You think I'm stupid or something?

I did a clean, fresh install of XP on C drive, with currently 3.12 GB of space left (had a lot more space during time of install - downloaded lots of crap since). Again, comp spec reminder (:rolleyes:) : AMD Athlon 1 Ghz w/ 256MB RAM. The computer is only 5 months old. It has been running smoothly before "upgrading" to XP. I was tempted to give XP a second try because of some positive comments made by people from boards all around, saying how "it never failed me, never crashed, much stabler, blah blah blah"... now I terribly regret it.

It has yet failed to screw up at least thrice a week, and crash multiple times on a screwed-up day. I am not running crap programs in the background, I did not download and install any weird applications, I've got all the updates available at windows update, and still this.

BTW, IE doesn't seem to work right. Stuff loads all right in the first window I open, but when a new window is spawned from the first window, it ends up dead, meaning that it stays blanks and nothing was happening. No "locating remote host http://..." (etc) status messages, nothing being downloaded, no nuthin. Couldn't refresh either - there was nothing to refresh in the first place.

So screw XP. It's a joke. I'm getting 2000.

[niv]

That-a-boy! :D

Win XP is the worst OS to come out of Microsuck yet, it just went downhill from Windows for Workgroups 3.11 since.

[trenzterra]

It's the system that matters. My sister got a brand new XP OS and it rocks and never ever hangs. And I upgraded mine and it crashed like ----.

[LeX]

You're forgetting the NT/2000 series. They can be considered a sort of uphill for them.

[trenzterra]

Originally posted by LeX
You think I'm stupid or something?

I did a clean, fresh install of XP on C drive, with currently 3.12 GB of space left (had a lot more space during time of install - downloaded lots of crap since). Again, comp spec reminder (:rolleyes:) : AMD Athlon 1 Ghz w/ 256MB RAM. The computer is only 5 months old. It has been running smoothly before "upgrading" to XP. I was tempted to give XP a second try because of some positive comments made by people from boards all around, saying how "it never failed me, never crashed, much stabler, blah blah blah"... now I terribly regret it.

It has yet failed to screw up at least thrice a week, and crash multiple times on a screwed-up day. I am not running crap programs in the background, I did not download and install any weird applications, I've got all the updates available at windows update, and still this.

BTW, IE doesn't seem to work right. Stuff loads all right in the first window I open, but when a new window is spawned from the first window, it ends up dead, meaning that it stays blanks and nothing was happening. No "locating remote host http://..." (etc) status messages, nothing being downloaded, no nuthin. Couldn't refresh either - there was nothing to refresh in the first place.

So screw XP. It's a joke. I'm getting 2000. you're wrong. I upgraded mine with two clean installs and then tried upgrade still the same.

[is0lized]

i will never upgrade to winxp, i love win2k, only thing i have a problem with is that the vid card doesnt work too well with it, so i need to get a new one but besides that win98 is best



but i have to say i would rather use xp then me, :)

[niv]

Originally posted by LeX
You're forgetting the NT/2000 series. They can be considered a sort of uphill for them.
Depends on the distrobution and build. I have a copy of Win2000 with stuff, that was included in Win98, that isn't seen in later versions of it.

[LeX]

Originally posted by trenzterra
It's the system that matters. My sister got a brand new XP OS and it rocks and never ever hangs. And I upgraded mine and it crashed like ----. I tried upgrading, and things went wrong during the installation process (XP couldn't find my CD drive... :rolleyes: Wonder where it was installing all the files from all along). So I booted up in MS-DOS mode...

deltree windows
y

...and it's bye bye Windows. It was until then that I realised the ----ing installer would only run under Windows, which was just great. So I had to install 98 just after getting rid of it, and then run the XP installer. I chose the clean install, which means it will remove the current Windows OS completely and do a fresh XP install, which theoretically should mean no problems. I was wrong.

I've noticed that Micro---- made it even harder to customize Windows in the XP version. When I was using 98, I had it all clean and organized just the way I like it. In XP, I realized that I couldn't do ---- with the start menu (anybody know how to edit it?), nor pretty much anything else as a matter of fact. Tweak UI helped a bit, but not as much as I had hoped.

Wutever... XP sucks, period.

[niv]

LOL, IE is crashing every 5 minutes on this Win98SE machine, well, can't complain since I'm mounted on a 100 mbps fiber connection right now. :D

[trenzterra]

Originally posted by LeX
I tried upgrading, and things went wrong during the installation process (XP couldn't find my CD drive... :rolleyes: Wonder where it was installing all the files from all along). So I booted up in MS-DOS mode...

deltree windows
y

...and it's bye bye Windows. It was until then that I realised the ----ing installer would only run under Windows, which was just great. So I had to install 98 just after getting rid of it, and then run the XP installer. I chose the clean install, which means it will remove the current Windows OS completely and do a fresh XP install, which theoretically should mean no problems. I was wrong.

I've noticed that Micro---- made it even harder to customize Windows in the XP version. When I was using 98, I had it all clean and organized just the way I like it. In XP, I realized that I couldn't do ---- with the start menu (anybody know how to edit it?), nor pretty much anything else as a matter of fact. Tweak UI helped a bit, but not as much as I had hoped.

Wutever... XP sucks, period. read my next post. i clean install twice.

[Robert]

If you downloaded XP from a warz site (which your probably did), it could be corrupted or something. I run XP on all my systems (cept my server - Redhat) and i NEVER have a problem. I did have probs because of a stupid trojan/virus. But now it's all good.
WinXP is the 2nd best OS,Win98SE (second edition!) is the best.

[Bruce]

Originally posted by robert
Win98SE (second edition!) is the best. I hated Win98 when I used it. I usually couldn't keep it up more than a few days without needing to reboot.

Windows 2000 is still the best Microsoft OS.

[niv]

Originally posted by Phrozen
Windows 2000 is still the best Microsoft OS.
Wrong. DOS 6.22, never crashed. ;)

[MN-Carl]

Originally posted by Hayama-kun

Wrong. DOS 6.22, never crashed. ;)

Maybe not .. but the kindof applications available now .. are far more hard running .. and more advanced.

[Seldimis]

I use them. They are the best. They never crash to me. You PC is "very good":D :D

[Akalon]

Originally posted by Phrozen
I hated Win98 when I used it. I usually couldn't keep it up more than a few days without needing to reboot.


I can't keep it up longer than 1 day, why does everyone think its the best OS??? I think I might start a crash log, everytime windows freezes or crashes, I make note of all the programs I had open and what I did to make it crash. :mad:

[niv]

Originally posted by cdudeuk18


Maybe not .. but the kindof applications available now .. are far more hard running .. and more advanced.

Well, then let's compare builds of Windows 2000. ;)

[Robert]

Windows 98 and previous versions does not know how to manage your memory (ram) properly. That is why you must reboot after a few hours because in Win98SE and previous versions, it didnt know how to restore your memory after you closed your programs. Why I say Win98SE Is the best? because when I used it, I hardly got BSOD. But I did do daily reboots. XP manages your memory way better.. not sure about Win2k and Win2k Advance.

As far as XP goes, it's the best. I can leave it running for days w/o it slowing down or crashing. I never get BSOD, I never freeze up and my programs hardly ever crash. Sure.. a lot of programs aren't compatible with XP.. but when Windows 2000 came out, not many programs weren't compatible w/ 2K as well. Time will take it's course and XP will make it's way to the top of the list.. or has it?

I have a copy of Windows 2000 Advance Server and I think it's a good program as well. But I prefer XP as an OS for my computer and Redhat as an OS for my server.

[Akalon]

Originally posted by robert
Windows 98 and previous versions does not know how to manage your memory (ram) properly. That is why you must reboot after a few hours because in Win98SE and previous versions, it didnt know how to restore your memory after you closed your programs.

That is sooo true, I have a FreeMem Pro in my system tray and it tells me how much free ram I have and I can free some up if I like but Windows never frees up ram itself, it constantly goes down and down and when I free up ram I doubt it has actually done much because programs still freeze and crash.

Also, whenever I leave my computer on for long periods of time and say open up a 150kb image in IE the image doesn't load, it stays white, presumingly because it doesn't have enough ram to view it. Also, my background image disappears after a while. Whenever I print screen and paste it in PSP it becomes black and white. Morpheus cant display the text in the search results and the download list so I must minimize the window to 1/4 of the screen so I can see whats downloading. Sometimes when I play a song in winamp, winamp freezes, causing me to alt+ctrl+delete it which makes windows explorer do an illegal operation.

It reaaallly bugs me.

[Bruce]

Originally posted by Akalon

Also, whenever I leave my computer on for long periods of time and say open up a 150kb image in IE the image doesn't load, it stays white, presumingly because it doesn't have enough ram to view it. Also, my background image disappears after a while. Whenever I print screen and paste it in PSP it becomes black and white. Morpheus cant display the text in the search results and the download list so I must minimize the window to 1/4 of the screen so I can see whats downloading. Sometimes when I play a song in winamp, winamp freezes, causing me to alt+ctrl+delete it which makes windows explorer do an illegal operation. That almost reminds me of when I used Win98.

[_Street_Fighter]

well... when i bought my new laptop (1 GHz, 20GB H/D, 256ram [gonna upgrade it in a month or so when i save up], DvD, and stuff...) it came with xp home edition and it runs way smoother and faster than win98 (which is installed on 1 of my desktop comp. & on my otha laptop) and a little bit faster than win2k (which is installed on another 1 of my desktop comp.) ....

recently i "upgraded it for free" to win xp pro (LoL) and after running xp pro... i noticed that it uses up tons more of your comp resources (but still faster than win98 and win2k) than xp home but i dont really care... i know it'll work faster with 512ram...

bottom line... i think if you want to run xp smoothly, i recommend having the following: 1GHz+ processor speed, 512MB ram, 15GB+ Hard Drive...

i also like xp because it looks better and it has burning stuff (i just plugin my burner and it burns fine) and the best thing i like about it is that it has the more drivers on it than win2k... after eXPeriencing win xp - i would never go back to win98... lmao - you also look cooler is school when you have the latest system and software for your comp...

[Bruce]

Originally posted by _Street_Fighter
i also like xp because it looks betterI personally don't care for the way it looks. An OS should be based on performance not appearance.
you also look cooler is school when you have the latest system and software for your comp...
:rolleyes:

Around here you look "cool" if you have a computer period.

[Nick]

Originally posted by Phrozen
Around here you look "cool" if you have a computer period.

No, you look cool if you have a computer and know how to use it :p .

[_Street_Fighter]

well.... here in chicago, you look cool if you have a good comp, internet, the latest games to play online, and friends (LoL)... in chicago, school sucks and there hasnt been much snow here so no snow ball fights :( and the only fun left is playing games and hanging out with friends...

in a few months i'll get my permit and after the end july i get my license and car and a job to buy stuff... lol when ur 15 and below it looks cool if you have friends and a good comp, but after you turn 16.... you gotta have a car and loud stereos to make ur car shake and to be heard like 2-3 blocks away... plus you gotta have some skills talkin to police so they wont give you a ticket - LoL

[Robert]

_Street_Fighter:

I can relate to you. Actually you described how it was for me being 15 and 16 years old. I'm 18 years old now and still computers are in style. LOL. I have a car with speakers and the best type of systems and still my friends try to out beat me. As far as skills talkin to the police, the way I learned them was by doing business with Cops. I know have a chain of cop friends. lol. Living down here in Miami is like living in Chicago.. mainly cuz half the ppl down here ARE from chicago or ny.

[niv]

At my school, half of the people laugh at you if you're using Windows, while the other half laughs at you if you're using *NIX. :confused2

[Bruce]

At my school I'd be surprised if 1% of the people (including staff) knew what *NIX is.

[trenzterra]

Originally posted by Akalon


That is sooo true, I have a FreeMem Pro in my system tray and it tells me how much free ram I have and I can free some up if I like but Windows never frees up ram itself, it constantly goes down and down and when I free up ram I doubt it has actually done much because programs still freeze and crash.

Also, whenever I leave my computer on for long periods of time and say open up a 150kb image in IE the image doesn't load, it stays white, presumingly because it doesn't have enough ram to view it. Also, my background image disappears after a while. Whenever I print screen and paste it in PSP it becomes black and white. Morpheus cant display the text in the search results and the download list so I must minimize the window to 1/4 of the screen so I can see whats downloading. Sometimes when I play a song in winamp, winamp freezes, causing me to alt+ctrl+delete it which makes windows explorer do an illegal operation.

It reaaallly bugs me. that shows me how much better is Windows ME :p

[Robert]

Windows Me? You got to be kidding. Windows ME is the worse OS Microsoft ever created. It's too friendly. lol.

[LeX]

Originally posted by robert
If you downloaded XP from a warz site (which your probably did) Oh, right, go on and make stupid assumptions. :rolleyes:

It's a burned copy of the real thing, ok?!!!? Sheesh... :mad:

[niv]

Originally posted by LeX
Oh, right, go on and make stupid assumptions. :rolleyes:

It's a burned copy of the real thing, ok?!!!? Sheesh... :mad:
That's still violating copyright law if the real thing was meant for only one machine and one machine only at a time. It's burnt warez. ;)

[LeX]

No, you know what he means. He thinks my version of XP is ----ed up because it's an internet-downloaded warez version. It's not.

[Coolin]

XP screwing up is Microsoft's fault and no one elses. XP is purely a crappy OS and nothing can change that. All it can claim is the NT kernal already found in the superior Windows 2000 OS. Windows XP is just Windows 2000 skinned to look child-friendly, bulked up to fill up some HD space, slowed-down in an attempt to make people buy new computers, and crash-prone to allow you to eXPerience the wonders of a Microsoft created OS.

[PyschoPath]

XP eats large donkey doo, it has no compatiblity with older programs, it's stated in every PC magazine, and in PC Gaming magazines, it's like Linux, but not as cool, and as stable ;-)

[niv]

Well, if you can compare XP to Linux, then you can compare every other one of Microsoft's crappy GUIs [except for dosshell] to Linux. :rolleyes: