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Unregistered
January 25th, 2002, 13:53
any1 here love windows xp ?

i think it's alright, but i dont like it much, b/c it's not compatible with most programs today

it doesnt worth $299!

bandaid
January 25th, 2002, 14:30
why do programs like that cost so much?

Giancarlo
January 25th, 2002, 14:42
Originally posted by Unregistered
any1 here love windows xp ?

i think it's alright, but i dont like it much, b/c it's not compatible with most programs today

it doesnt worth $299!

I can get you the Home Version at an online store for $89. :rolleyes: :D

I still have Windows 98SE, I never upgraded because I got to test Win XP on a friends machine... he de-upgraded his machine back to Windows 98SE because XP didnīt work with anything he had.

niv
January 25th, 2002, 15:02
WinXP sucks monkey balls. ;)

Todd
January 25th, 2002, 15:07
If you want Windows XP the best way to obtain it is the OEM version. You're supposed to purchase hardware with it in order for it to qualify as OEM purchase but some places will sell you a $1 power cable and call it hardware.

Try searching for windows xp home oem or windows xp pro oem and I'm sure you'll get a lot of results: http://www.pricewatch.com

bandaid
January 25th, 2002, 18:48
what's better XP or 98

Giancarlo
January 25th, 2002, 18:50
Originally posted by bandaid
what's better XP or 98

98SE.

bandaid
January 25th, 2002, 21:27
then why purchase xp?

niv
January 25th, 2002, 22:45
Originally posted by bandaid
then why purchase xp?
There is no point--YET. There will eventually be new programs for WinXP but not Win9x/NT. At that point the we will have to convert to Windows X[tra] P[athetic] or switch to *nix. If I were you, at that point, I'd choose the latter. ;)

Giancarlo
January 25th, 2002, 22:50
All I know getting XP won't be for a very long time.

niv
January 25th, 2002, 22:53
VMware should be able to support XP in the future anyway, so you can always have the best of two worlds...make that the best of one world and the horrible reality of the other (Yes, Windows. :p).

Epgs
January 25th, 2002, 23:09
win2k all the way, until www.lindows.com OS 1.0 comes out. I can't wait till i get that one. It is scheduled for mid february.

niv
January 25th, 2002, 23:13
Does lindows work with both 9x and NT programs, and does it or will it eventually support JWin programs? I'm too lazy to contact lindows.com. ;)

Unregistered
January 28th, 2002, 02:30
i used to use win xp, i quit...cuz it not that good

Akalon
January 28th, 2002, 02:42
Originally posted by Epgs
win2k all the way, until www.lindows.com OS 1.0 comes out. I can't wait till i get that one. It is scheduled for mid february.

So what is Lindows like anyway? Is it a totally new OS that can run windows and linux programs or a program that runs through windows?

roly
January 28th, 2002, 05:19
I use Microsoft Windows 98 First Edition

Robert
January 28th, 2002, 06:34
XP Doesn't suck. The problem with XP is that not too many systems/programs are compatible with it. Just like when Windows 2000 came out. I am running XP and have NO problems whatso ever. Just because YOU have problems, doesn't mean it sucks. Sucks for you that you can't run XP that's for sure.

PyschoPath
January 28th, 2002, 06:44
XP = ---- Microsoft = Geeky Nerd = Microsoft Windows XP = Geeky Nerd ----

Nick
January 28th, 2002, 09:28
My friend told me XP automatically records your hardware and registers itself online with hardware information, and that if you install new hardware (ie - cpu, motherboard) or install that copy of XP on another computer you have to deactivate your register code before you can reinstall/install it.

He heard this from someone at a computer show. I'm not sure if it's true or not. Can anyone tell me if there is any truth behind this?

Giancarlo
January 28th, 2002, 09:33
That is true and that is why I will never upgrade to XP until they change that completely.

niv
January 28th, 2002, 09:43
Look robert, I have been a customer of Microsoft for over 10 years. Apparently you don't see why this is just another slap in the face to all their long term customers. :mad:

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Nick, yes, that is true, and that there have been some reports of people getting sued by Micro$hit for not doing that properly.

Giancarlo
January 28th, 2002, 09:49
I must agree with Hayama, the only operating system I have used is Windows, and even before that Microsoftīs ----ty DOS operating system.

I had to put up with Windows 95, now I got Win98 SE, which is probably the best OS they ever released. XP is garbage because it wonīt run with most of the things I have. A friend told me about that and I even tested it when fixing someoneīs computer. I mean why the hell do they release something more trashy than Windows 98?

niv
January 28th, 2002, 09:55
Originally posted by Giancarlo
I mean why the hell do they release something more trashy than Windows 98?

I think it would be more appropriate to say-why release something more trashy than WinME and only have support for programs running under that OS? DOS program users were forced to stay with earlier versions of 9x because of that change, and this is just going a bit further.

Also, I find it a bit funny that Windows 98 (neither first nor second edition) was never released with IME97, I mean WTF were they thinking? Same with Windows ME, they never bothered to release the language packs that they already had in possesion.

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This is when the saying "new is not always better than old" really applies.

Toefur
January 28th, 2002, 11:09
I'm posting this from XP now.

I just installed it before. So now I have 98/2000/XP installed on here.

To be honest, I think it's crap. Does it take an extra few hundred meg for all these fancy colours and special little images here and there?

The most pointless thing seems to be the nice little antialiased dots it puts in password fields instead of the asterisks. :biggrin2:

Bah. It's just all too crap. :mad:

Canuckkev
January 28th, 2002, 13:20
Wow, glad I upgraded to win2k instead of XP yesterday...

No one has anything good to say?

I have already had a few problems with it though....

Get this, with a fresh clean install, nothing else changed, I go to www.microsoft.com, and IE crashes....:rolleyes: . BUt I installed SP2 and IE6 and it hasn't crashed again (yet).

Also, it won't shut down. It says, "It is now safe to turn of your computer", but when I press the power button, nothing happens. I have to hold it for like 7 seconds. And when it does turn off....after a while it boots up again, by itself.

Oh well, I was having a lot worse problems with 98. I had a BSOD everytime I booted up, and yesterday as I was trying to back up some files, it would give me 2 BSOD's, then freeze, if I tried to go into My Computer. It wasn't shutting down either, but it wasn't starting up again.

As for compatibility, my scanner doesn't seem to have XP/2000 drivers, and my CD burner won't install it's drivers (HP).

Besides from all that, I like the cursor shadows...:D Also, the CTRL-ALT-DEL Task Manager actually works if something is frozen, unlike 98.

jason
January 29th, 2002, 01:34
i'm running 2000 Pro with zero problems so far. my scanner and burner were installed pretty easily and all of my programs worked with the exception of an old printer i had to download a driver for.

Robert
January 29th, 2002, 06:22
Nick: Yes... that's true. With XP home edition though. XP Pro doesn't require you to "activate" it with Microsoft. That is why the Home edition sucks.

XP isn't another slap in the face. I don't have 1 single problem with XP .. neither do I have with Win2k or Win98SE . 'cept with 98SE I had BSOD once in a while. Don't be a player hater, particpate.

niv
January 29th, 2002, 10:28
I'm talking about support for older OS'es. Why ditch support for DOS programs all of a sudden after Win98SE? That's why I'm stuck using it on all my spares. What's worse is that you don't seem to see my point. I don't care about the new. I care about the old. New users can kiss my ---, I want support for the old programs, and WinXP is just like WinME/2000 in that it just doesn't have it and it won't have it.


Tell me one thing, explain why neither Win98 or WinME have support for language packs that they previously had in possesion? It just doesn't make any sense, does it? But it does, it forces people to switch over to NT, which costs 4 times as much. I'll always stay a hater, the people at Microsoft actually have brains, even if it seems like they don't.

Giancarlo
January 29th, 2002, 11:01
I got tons of dos games, and all of the suddenly I canīt play them anymore if I get XP.... that sucks, and that is another reason why I wonīt get XP, now or ever. If they decide to make an XP that allows those dos programs to work I might consider it.

dscikate
January 29th, 2002, 20:50
well you can get xp from a friendz server for free or something
and if you need that hardware thing you can get it but there's no point my friend has xp and it's not that great it's just another damn platform. it's like getting internet explorer 6 you can get it but 5 or 5.5 are what most people use.

if you get wha i am saying then at least one person does.

niv
January 29th, 2002, 20:57
Originally posted by dscikate
well you can get xp from a friendz server for free or something
And that will get you contacted by Micro$oft if it's XP home edition.


Originally posted by dscikate
it's like getting internet explorer 6 you can get it but 5 or 5.5 are what most people use.
Only this version of IE wouldn't support standard HTML but some weird crap that only IE 6.0 and IE 5.5 would support.


Originally posted by dscikate
if you get wha i am saying then at least one person does.
Proper english could help. ;)

dscikate
January 31st, 2002, 18:02
Well I was doing a little comparing there, when I said getting xp is like getting ie 6, because like ie 6, xp is not compatible with most things as the earlier versions are. Is that better.

Toefur
January 31st, 2002, 19:01
Hey all my dos games work in xp!

trenzterra
January 31st, 2002, 20:28
Bah I'll change to Windows Longhorn when its released.

Nick
January 31st, 2002, 20:45
Originally posted by trenzterra
Bah I'll change to Windows Longhorn when its released.

:confused:

dscikate
February 1st, 2002, 19:03
well this suckz my posting won't go higher than 100 there's something wrong with the forum script there using i think.

Giancarlo
February 1st, 2002, 19:05
Originally posted by dscikate
well this suckz my posting won't go higher than 100 there's something wrong with the forum script there using i think.

Post donīt count at the General Discussion forum.

Akalon
February 1st, 2002, 20:32
Originally posted by Nick


:confused:

It's codename for Windows 2003 and Windows Blackhawk is codename for 2005...

Todd
February 1st, 2002, 21:34
Originally posted by robert
Nick: Yes... that's true. With XP home edition though. XP Pro doesn't require you to "activate" it with Microsoft. That is why the Home edition sucks.
Are you sure that's true? I'm pretty sure that both Windows XP versions have to be activated. Perhaps you purchased a Windows XP Pro system that was already activated so you didn't have to activate it?

Regarding someone else's post on Lindows, it's a way to run windows applications in Linux. Read the review of it here: http://www.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=02/01/25/1811226&mode=thread

They haven't released a final version yet but I believe it is getting close to release. It's a very interesting project to say the least but it also has it's share of issues.

Nick
February 1st, 2002, 21:59
Originally posted by Akalon
It's codename for Windows 2003 and Windows Blackhawk is codename for 2005...

Thanks for clearing that up :) .

conkermaniac
February 1st, 2002, 22:01
Well, someone managed to get a free copy at the recent APEC conference here in Shanghai, and they gave it to us...

conkermaniac
February 1st, 2002, 22:02
So I have an English edition instead of a Chinese one! :D