NameZero stopping free service.. this is NOT my personal e-mail :P

[( - P z Y - )]

pzyonic.com is about to go away!

Act now to renew your domain and email!
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Namezero has spent millions of dollars over the past two years providing free domain services for over 1 million customers around the world. Because of changing market conditions, we regret that we will no longer provide our free domain service as of February 28, 2002.
As a thank you for your support, we are offering you a special price to keep your domain name and e-mail. We have dropped the renewal price for your domain to just $19.95 for a full year. That is more than 40% off of our $34.95 standard price. This price is good only through February 8, 2002.

Remember, once your free service expires, email sent to you at you@pzyonic.com will not reach you, no one will be able to visit www.pzyonic.com, and you may never be able to register pzyonic.com.



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Pzyonic.com being my current namezero domain, registered 8 months ago. NOT 12.
I'm probably the *ONLY* one left this applies to, but oh well.

[keith]

should've forked out the enormous sum of under $9/yr and you wouldn't be losing it now, having to pay almost $20

[Archbob]

Can you not transfer it?

[( - P z Y - )]

I think I'll just buy NZ to save the domain and wait 60 days... then xfer the hell out!

[Buzzard]

Originally posted by keith
should've forked out the enormous sum of under $9/yr and you wouldn't be losing it now, having to pay almost $20

I made the mistake of taking their domain also :(

And no, you can't transfer it, they hold on to it for at least 60 days after it expires before they put it back into the pool.

[freakysid]

Also when you registered a domain with namezero you did not become the legal registrant. Netzero are technically the owner of the domain name. Thus you have to buy it off them if you want to have full control over it, such as transfer it to another registrar.

Frankly, I am amazed that the netzero model held out for as long as it did. Netzero are a business unit of a domain registrar. I am not sure which one exactly. So lets say that the domain names are costing them $6 a pop. How do they make $$$ on that? Well first, by people paying their fee to transfer ownsership to them when they finally get sick of their ad based redirection service which takes up a whopping size of the screen real estate for their banner ad served on the redirects. Secondly, through whatever revenue they make from displaying banner ads in redirects and marketing to their mailing list.

Well. there is no way that paying $6 for member aquisition per domain is going to be worthwhile for them.

It's a little like the game I am in, which is free URL redirection, email forwarding. Or to be more general, any sort of free online service provider. At the end of the day you have to pay your costs as a free service provider. Hopefully, you will at some stage break-even and that would be a miracle in itself :p

So I guess there are a couple of strategies you can take as a free service provider. You can heavily subsidise building member base and hope that in the long run all will work out and you might have some chance of covering your costs. But this thinking is what has brought us into the post-dot-bomb market where CPM for untargeted traffic is worth apes droppings.

Or you can build a business model that has a more modest target of sustainability but of course the cost is that you can't offer something that is too good to be true. So, in my case, although there are free redirection/email forwarding services out there that offer completely ad free services, that is not the path I chose to go down because it is not a sustainable model (well for me according to how I skin my bananas anyway).

Right now I have people emailing me telling me about how they found my service because XYZ service provider has just emailed them telling them that if they want to keep their email address, or subdomain, they are going to have to pay a monthly fee. Then there is the constant ebb and flow of redirection services that come and go on a regular basis.

I would rather build a member base on a more sustainable mutually beneficial basis where members who join up understand that the money has to come from somewhere and are willing to forgo a bit of screen real estate for the promotional space I need to be able to promote the service, and in future place some paid advertising. In return they are getting a very brandable, memorable web identity in return without having to lay out the fees for a domain name.

There is no such thing as a free lunch. The party always has to end and someone inevitably receives the bill. :)

[Whisper2Me]

I was with Namezero, and let mine expire back in October. I'm STILL waiting for them to release my .net name. I just ran a check to see if it was available yet, and Namezero is still holding it hostage..................:crysad:

[stu]

Originally posted by freakysid
Also when you registered a domain with namezero you did not become the legal registrant. Netzero are technically the owner of the domain name. Thus you have to buy it off them if you want to have full control over it, such as transfer it to another registrar.
netzero and namezero are affiliated with each other?

[Dusty]

netzero and namezero are affiliated with each other?I don't think so. Typo, methinks, but I could be wrong.

[Whisper2Me]

Come to think of it....... I have my father-in-law on netzero. We just have to remember NOT to upgrade it, and the banner ads still stay small and moveable.

I know, I know. WAYYYY off topic.:o

[Daniel]

wtf is netzero?

[Bruce]

Free internet access.

[Whisper2Me]

netzero is one of those free dial ups. you just have to click on a banner every once in a while. btw, checked out your forum..... looks intriguing, i'll have to spend some time really exploring there soon. AND nice flag!:)

[Pimpin Monkey]

ugh I hate netzeto! :) I'm connected via NetZero right now just because I'm waiting for my DSL modem to come in :biggrin2: I just have to discourge anyone against netzero!!!!

[stu]

netzero saved me a year's worth of internet fees.. what a life saver, especially since I used that money I saved to pay off some of my rent.

it was fast for a free ISP, but I heard that they now limit it to 10hrs per month..

[Archbob]

Netzero sucks bigtime.

I made a mistake with Domainzero a year ago and I couldn't transfer my domain and someone else bought it, what a rip!

[Pimpin Monkey]

Originally posted by stu
netzero saved me a year's worth of internet fees.. what a life saver, especially since I used that money I saved to pay off some of my rent.

it was fast for a free ISP, but I heard that they now limit it to 10hrs per month..

Sorry, let me correct myself.. I'm talkin about NetZero as paid internet service.. I'm paying $10 a month for 'platinum' service! Yes free NetZero is limited to 12 hours last time I had it!

[stu]

Originally posted by Hatchet Ryda


Sorry, let me correct myself.. I'm talkin about NetZero as paid internet service.. I'm paying $10 a month for 'platinum' service! Yes free NetZero is limited to 12 hours last time I had it! ah k.. platinum service sucks then..

[niv]

Can't be any worse than M$N...22$ a month for ---- :fork:

NetZero was good three years ago..back when it was "unlimited". :biggrin2:

[Buzzard]

Originally posted by Hayama-kun
Can't be any worse than M$N...22$ a month for ---- :fork:

NetZero was good three years ago..back when it was "unlimited". :biggrin2:

All dial-up sucks:D Rock on broadband :devious2:

[Whisper2Me]

hmmmmmmm now I gotta phone my FIL to find out. I think because we never upgraded his netzero (he's 77 years old....lol), he's still getting unlimited. Just as well. His computer is about 10 years old. Very Slowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

[( - P z Y - )]

They allow you to change whois (I paid the twenty dollars for the domain in the end) and say that is good enough to change to a new registrar. Whether this is true or not, I will soon need help doing so :)

[freakysid]

Originally posted by stu
netzero and namezero are affiliated with each other?

Sorry - typo :p

[dscikate]

i have a name zero domain good thing i never made it popular it is located at http://www.planetballx.com it's my site orignal name. now it's just pbxanime.com and i got it for years to come.