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[kojiro]

I JUST GOT THIS FROM A FRIEND. INDEED, IT IS INTERESTING. ENJOY!



Anyone remember this?? It was 1987!

At a lecture the other day they played an old news video of Lt. Col. Oliver North testifying at the Iran-Contra hearings during the Reagan Administration.

There was Ollie in front of God and country getting the third degree, but what he said was stunning! He was being drilled by some senator:

"Did you not recently spend close to $60,000 for a home security system?"

Ollie replied, "Yes, I did, Sir."

The senator continued, trying to get a laugh out of the audience, "Isn't that just a little excessive?"

"No, Sir," continued Ollie.

"No? And why not?" the senator asked.

"Because the lives of my family and I were threatened, Sir"

"Threatened? By whom?" the senator questioned.

"By a terrorist, Sir," Ollie answered.

"Terrorist? What terrorist could possibly scare you that much?"

"His name is Osama bin Laden, Sir," Ollie replied.

At this point the senator tried to repeat the name, but couldn't pronounce it. which most people back then probably couldn't. A couple of people laughed at the attempt. Then the senator continued, "Why are you so afraid of this man?" the senator asked.

"Because, Sir, he is the most evil person alive that I know of," Ollie answered.

"And what do you recommend we do about him?" asked the senator.

"Well, Sir, if it was up to me, I would recommend that an assassin team be formed to eliminate him and his men from the face of the earth."

The senator disagreed with this approach, and that was all that was shown of the clip.



If anyone is interested, the senator turned out to be none other than Al Gore.

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[Giancarlo]

I knew Al Gore was an ignorant fool... just like every other democrat. They allowed September 11th to happen.

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That's easy to say now Giancarlo. Sure they could have had him killed then, but no one then forsaw this happening. No one knew how dangerous Bin Laden was, except for maybe North. North had no proof of Bin Laden threatening him (which doesn't mean it didn't happen), and no one really knew what they were capable of.

[Jan]

http://urbanlegends.miningco.com/library/blnorth.htm :rolleyes:

[is0lized]

that story is half true, it was a diffrent terrorist, not OBL

[Toefur]

Originally posted by Giancarlo
I knew Al Gore was an ignorant fool... just like every other democrat. They allowed September 11th to happen.

Even though we have now seen that the thing is an urban legend... I can't help but laugh at your comment GC. :classic2:

[Giancarlo]

Wrong. You shouldn't laugh at my comment. 1987 was not the only chance the US had to take out Bin Laden. But there were four other times during the 90s. The democrats didn't allow it because they are really are the most ignorant idiots. They allowed it to happen.

[LeX]

You know, some people knew the Titanic was gonna sink.

[Jan]

Originally posted by Giancarlo
1987 was not the only chance the US had to take out Bin Laden. But there were four other times during the 90s.
And for what reason would they take him out back then?

[LeX]

Hey GC, since you knew all along, why didn't you go and persuade Bush or Clinton? You could've prevented all this Sept. 11 ---- you know. :mad: It's all your fault Osama bin Laden was ever born.

[Giancarlo]

Originally posted by Jan

And for what reason would they take him out back then?

1985 (I think it was 1985) Beirut Bombings - Over 200 Marines were killed
1993 - World Trade Center Bombing
1997 (or 1998) - Embassy Bombings in Tanzania and Kenya.

LeX, I wasn't old enough to know then. But now I am. I know the democrats are inept as hell.

[Jan]

Originally posted by Giancarlo


1985 (I think it was 1985) Beirut Bombings - Over 200 Marines were killed
1993 - World Trade Center Bombing
1997 (or 1998) - Embassy Bombings in Tanzania and Kenya.



http://www.beirut-memorial.org/history/

Tanzania was 1998

[trenzterra]

Originally posted by Giancarlo


1985 (I think it was 1985) Beirut Bombings - Over 200 Marines were killed
1993 - World Trade Center Bombing
1997 (or 1998) - Embassy Bombings in Tanzania and Kenya.

LeX, I wasn't old enough to know then. But now I am. I know the democrats are inept as hell. WTC was bombed once?

luckily Singapore's WTC is safe...

[is0lized]

Originally posted by trenzterra
WTC was bombed once?

luckily Singapore's WTC is safe...


or so you think

[Toefur]

Hey... let's find all the bad things... all the people dying... that happened whenever republicans have been in charge!

Oh look... Americans torturing Afghans... (http://rense.com/general20/tortureal.htm) It's the republicans fault!

GOod lord... it's the republicans fault for Enron!

Hey... remember all the anthrax going around... Im afraid it was the republicans...

Theres lots of things...

Hey, I know a fun game... let's take down all the years that republicans were in leadership positions... and show how these are direct correlations of all the bad things that happened! :rolleyes:

[Avenger]

Ignorance!

Pearl Harbor was ignored,
Third Reich was ignored,
Titanic was ignored,
11th Sept. was ignored....

[trenzterra]

Originally posted by Avenger
Ignorance!

Pearl Harbor was ignored,
Third Reich was ignored,
Titanic was ignored,
11th Sept. was ignored.... only the end of world war II was not ignored.

[Giancarlo]

Originally posted by Toefur
Hey... let's find all the bad things... all the people dying... that happened whenever republicans have been in charge!

---- you to hell.



Oh look... Americans torturing Afghans... (http://rense.com/general20/tortureal.htm) It's the republicans fault!

A communist news organizations. A bag of lies. THE TORTURE ACCUSATIONS IS THE BIGGEST SACK OF ----ING CRAP I EVER HEARD. Those who made those accusations are stupid idiots who don't understand anything about war.



GOod lord... it's the republicans fault for Enron!

The democrats had quite a bit of stake in Enron. And an idiot like you wouldn't bother pointing out that Bush's Mother-in-law lost $8,000.



Hey... remember all the anthrax going around... Im afraid it was the republicans...

Stop bsing.



Hey, I know a fun game... let's take down all the years that republicans were in leadership positions... and show how these are direct correlations of all the bad things that happened! :rolleyes:

LIKE WHAT? LIKE ----ING WHAT? Besides the fact that Eisenhower pulled the US out of Korea, Nixon made peace with China and pulled the US out of Vietnam, and Reagan created 14 million stable jobs? Those are all republicans I speak of, and they certainly don't sound bad.

What about democrats? Truman threw the US into Korea, Kennedy and Johnson intensified the Vietnam war, Jimmy Carter screwed up the country and messed up big time in foreign affairs, and Bill Clinton ----ed up the economy to put it in the state it is in now.

[LeX]

Originally posted by trenzterra
WTC was bombed once?No duh.

Hmm... how old were you then? Maybe you were too young to know. Were you even born yet?! :jump:


[ADD]
Ooh, Toefur... you have successfully pissed GC off! :classic2:

Uh, lemme guess... you're a republican, GC. :biggrin2:

[Jan]

Originally posted by LeX
Ooh, Toefur... you have successfully pissed GC off! :classic2:

He sure does a lot of cussing doesn't he :confused2

[niv]

Originally posted by LeX
Hmm... how old were you then? Maybe you were too young to know. Were you even born yet?! :jump:


He may be a bit older than 10 (or not), but he's got less of a brain capacity than that of a neanderthal. ;)

[Giancarlo]

Originally posted by Hayama-kun


He may be a bit older than 10 (or not), but he's got less of a brain capacity than that of a neanderthal. ;)

And who exactly are you talking about?

[niv]

Originally posted by Giancarlo


And who exactly are you talking about?
Follow the quotes! :jump:

[Toefur]

Originally posted by LeX
No duh.

Hmm... how old were you then? Maybe you were too young to know. Were you even born yet?! :jump:


[ADD]
Ooh, Toefur... you have successfully pissed GC off! :classic2:

Uh, lemme guess... you're a republican, GC. :biggrin2:

:o I couldn't have done it without you guys... I just want to thank you all for being here for me... :D

[Toefur]

Originally posted by Giancarlo


Blah blah [insert lots of bad words] blah blah

Calm down old chap!

You really are missing the point.

Let me just start this by saying I'm not a democrat, and I don't even like the democrats. If I was in America and had to vote, I wouldn't even vote for them.

So. I don't like the democrats. Or the republicans. As a matter of fact, I couldn't care less about either of them.

Now, onto my point...

You seem to be tied up into this little fantasty world that is based on the following untruths:

- The republican party is the saviour of the world and can do now rong whatsoever
- Said republican party's every single action is good and positive
- The democractic party is the sole thing that is wrong with this world, and the cause of all problems
- Said democratic party every single action is wrong, unjust and just all 'round evil.

That being said, you need to come out of your little fantasy world.

THE REPUBLICAN PARTY HAS ----ED UP AT TIMES.
THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY HAS ----ED UP AT TIMES.
THE REPUBLICAN PARTY HAS DONE GOOD THINGS FOR AMERICA AT TIMES.
THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY HAS DONE GOOD THINGS FOR AMERICA AT TIMES.

You love the republicans, you love ol' dubya.
They couldn't give a toss for you.

You need to stop worshipping them like they are sent from heaven for you to worship.

They, and the democrats both have faults. Both have positives.

There is no point getting so worked up over it all.

[bigperm]

Orginally Posted by Giancarlo
Blah blah [insert lots of bad words] blah blah HAHAHAHAHAHAHA....

[Giancarlo]

Originally posted by Toefur


Let me just start this by saying I'm not a democrat, and I don't even like the democrats. If I was in America and had to vote, I wouldn't even vote for them.

Then stop defending them.




- The republican party is the saviour of the world and can do now rong whatsoever

Incoherent. Please restate in english.



- The democractic party is the sole thing that is wrong with this world, and the cause of all problems

They are responsible for the recession of 79-82, and are also responsible for slowing down economic growth in 2000.



You love the republicans, you love ol' dubya.
They couldn't give a toss for you.

Whatever.



You need to stop worshipping them like they are sent from heaven for you to worship.

I am agnostic/atheist. I believe in having strong but not inept leaders. An inept leader is a democrat. A strong leader is a republican, like Dwight Eisenhower, Richard Nixon, Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush. A weak leader is a democrat, like Harry Truman, John F. Kennedy, LBJ, Jimmy Carter (especially) and Bill Clinton.

[Toefur]

Somebody please restrain me. :mad:

GC. LET ME STATE AGAIN.

THE REPUBLICAN PARTY HAS ----ED UP AT TIMES.
THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY HAS ----ED UP AT TIMES.
THE REPUBLICAN PARTY HAS DONE GOOD THINGS FOR AMERICA AT TIMES.
THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY HAS DONE GOOD THINGS FOR AMERICA AT TIMES.

Got it? YES OR NO?

Whether you are an Atheist or not has got nothing to do with what I said. YOU WORSHIP REPUBLICANS THE WAY CHRISTIANS WORSHIP CHRIST.

You fail to mention every single republican president. You fail to mention every single democratic president.

SOME REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTS DID SOME GOOD THINGS.
SOME REPUBLICN PRESIDENTS DID SOME BAD THINGS.
SOME DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTS DID SOME GOOD THINGs.
SOME DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTS DID SOME BAD THINGS.

The republican party is the saviour of the world and can do now rong whatsoever

HOW IS THAT INCOHERRANT? Place the w over a place, and you have "no wrong". Now try reading it!

But I guess you're right... Those republicans are infallable.
*cough* Watergate *cough*. Wow... searching around I've found lots of bad stuff about the guy who was involved in that... let's dig around and see what the other republicans have gotten up to, shall we?

Oh... but wait!

They're republicans... they're the image of perfection! :rolleyes:

[Giancarlo]

I will name all after 1945, before then the party lines were different.

Democratic Presidents from 1945 - Now
Harry Truman (Horrible.. started war in Korea, ran deficit up to 150% of GDP)
John F. Kennedy (Scandals, and was elected by fraud with help from mafia)
Lyndon Baines Johnson (Intensified war in Vietnam)
Jimmy Carter (------- who messed up the country, and screwed up in foreign affairs)
Bill Clinton (Scandals and economic mismanagement)

Republican Presidents from 1953 - Now
Dwight D. Eisenhower (Prepared the US for strong economic growth, and built up defenses against communism)
Richard Nixon (Signed dozens and dozens of treaties and pacts with other countries, Watergate was a shame all made up by the media)
Gerald Ford (Was he republican? Was okay... didn't really do much)
Ronald Reagan (Created 14 million jobs, stable economy, and his adminstration had a hand in creating the internet.)
George H. W. Bush (Kicked Saddam's --- but didn't go all the way I wish he did. He kicked out Noriega and bombed Libya. One of his faults was raising taxes)
George W. Bush (Performance on war on terror, ability to help the economy recover and build up of defense complex)

[Avenger]

I'm starting to HATE somebody on this board, guess who it is....

[conkermaniac]

Umm...the economy wasn't that bad until Bush Jr. came to power. Clinton did not really bring the economy down that much, but as soon as Bush stepped up, everything crashed. Sure, ONE large scandal ruined his reputation, but he was not a bad president by ANY means. You say the Watergate wasn't bad? The Lewinsky scandal certainly wasn't worse.

And if it weren't for Bush Sr. and dumb Colin Powell, Bin Laden might not have "rushed" so eagerly to attack the U.S. at once. I'm not saying that I'm certain the 9/11 attacks would have never happened, but it's certainly a possibiliy.

And BTW, I have never seriously choked on a pretzel. :rolleyes:

Let's all shut up, because I HATE these political discussions.

[Giancarlo]

Originally posted by conkermaniac
Umm...the economy wasn't that bad until Bush Jr. came to power.

No, no, NO! The GDP growth was .2% in December 2000, and probably was even negative. That was when Clinton was in power.


Clinton did not really bring the economy down that much, but as soon as Bush stepped up, everything crashed.

No, no no! When Bush stepped up corporate taxes were reduced. Economic growth resumed last quarter at .2%. Productivity was up at 3.5%, one the largest in years. Go do your research!!!


Sure, ONE large scandal ruined his reputation, but he was not a bad president by ANY means. You say the Watergate wasn't bad? The Lewinsky scandal certainly wasn't worse.

Clinton was bad. He screwed the middle class by overtaxation.



And if it weren't for Bush Sr. and dumb Colin Powell, Bin Laden might not have "rushed" so eagerly to attack the U.S. at once. I'm not saying that I'm certain the 9/11 attacks would have never happened, but it's certainly a possibiliy.

No, no and NO! Where are you getting this stupid information? You think it would be any different with Al Super Idiot Gore? No. It isn't even one slightest possibility. Colin Powell helped improve ties with Egypt and Saudi Arabia before September 11th.




And BTW, I have never seriously choked on a pretzel. :rolleyes:

Let's all shut up, because I HATE these political discussions. [/B]

I have. Is it really a big deal?

[Avenger]

then maybe its just coinsidence, not their fault...
:D

[MN-Carl]

Lets get one thing straight ...

The american economy was very good ... but was starting to go down the swanny just before clinton left .... what goes up must come down ....

And G W Bush has done as good job getting it back on track ...

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...and this thread is pointless, cause it ends up the same way as all the rest of them have.

[Giancarlo]

Originally posted by cdudeuk18
Lets get one thing straight ...

The american economy was very good ... but was starting to go down the swanny just before clinton left .... what goes up must come down ....

And G W Bush has done as good job getting it back on track ...

As someone who could be shooting for an MBA, I predicted a downturn would occur when Clinton was still in office.

It is basically called the cooling off period... after that follows moderate growth.

But the downturn occured two months before Clinton left office.

[Avenger]

I think this topic should be closed now,

[Jan]

Originally posted by Avenger
I think this topic should be closed now,
Why did you reply if you think it is dead???? :rolleyes:

[Avenger]

I didn't think it was dead. I think it SHOULD be!