White House Press Release: Saddam Hussein will be ousted.

[Giancarlo]

http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/World/Iraq

It is official that Bush is devising a plan to oust Saddam Hussein from power. Though Bush has been open to tell the press this he has not released how he would do it. I would suspect the opposition Iraqi National Congress will have something to do with it.

[megapuzik]

Very good news, thanx :D :D

[Giancarlo]

Originally posted by megapuzik
Very good news, thanx :D :D

Yeah I agree, Saddam was just causing problems in the region... somehow I think the Palestinians got hold of the Qassem-II Rocket. Iraqi Built I think...

[megapuzik]

I hate Iraq cuz they helping Palesitians (wich I hate too) 3 months ago some bomb exploded near my house, hell, a bomb explode in Israel every day....

[Giancarlo]

Originally posted by megapuzik
I hate Iraq cuz they helping Palesitians (wich I hate too) 3 months ago some bomb exploded near my house, hell, a bomb explode in Israel every day....

I know how it feels... in Spain the ETA have killed over 800 people since 1968. Mainly with car bombs and drive by shootings. But they are very unpopular now.

[megapuzik]

---- them all ! (eta, palastinians and othe pests) :mad: :mad:

[Toefur]

Originally posted by megapuzik
I hate Iraq cuz they helping Palesitians (wich I hate too) 3 months ago some bomb exploded near my house, hell, a bomb explode in Israel every day....

And tell me, what reason, exactly, do you have for hating Palestinians?

[Giancarlo]

Originally posted by Toefur


And tell me, what reason, exactly, do you have for hating Palestinians?

Palestinians bomb Israelis and use BS work to convince people like you that they are the ones suffering. As you can notice I support Israel.

I dislike the Palestinians as I dislike the Basque Seperatists.

[Toefur]

Originally posted by Giancarlo


Palestinians bomb Israelis and use BS work to convince people like you that they are the ones suffering. As you can notice I support Israel.

I dislike the Palestinians as I dislike the Basque Seperatists.

I disagree. :)

[megapuzik]

Originally posted by Toefur


And tell me, what reason, exactly, do you have for hating Palestinians?
Try living here for one day, every hour you will hear in the news about terror acts.

[Toefur]

Originally posted by megapuzik

Try living here for one day, every hour you will hear in the news about terror acts.

The Palestinians could say the same thing. :)

[Giancarlo]

Originally posted by Toefur


I disagree. :)

Are your people being bombed every week? Or for the Israelis every day?

No, so you wouldn't really know how it is.

[Toefur]

Originally posted by Giancarlo


Are your people being bombed every week? Or for the Israelis every day?

No, so you wouldn't really know how it is.

But the Palestinians would, eh.

[megapuzik]

Originally posted by Toefur


The Palestinians could say the same thing. :)
Yea, but we dont send ppl to explode on them...


Originally posted by Giancarlo
As you can notice I support Israel.



:) :)

[Giancarlo]

Originally posted by Toefur


But the Palestinians would, eh.

No. If the Palestinians would recognize the state of Israel then they would be fine. But they choose to fire Mortars, Rifles and Rocket Launchers on Israel. Why did they acquire the Qassem-II Rocket? To kill more Israelis. Israel has full right to defend itself.

[megapuzik]

Originally posted by Giancarlo


No. If the Palestinians would recognize the state of Israel then they would be fine. But they choose to fire Mortars, Rifles and Rocket Launchers on Israel. Why did they acquire the Qassem-II Rocket? To kill more Israelis. Israel has full right to defend itself.
we should bomb all the palastinian "camps" not the cities and the villages....
We have one of the strongest air force, its oo bad that were not using it, and insted "getting" palastinians suicide bombers near our houses...

[murat]

Originally posted by megapuzik
---- them all ! (eta, palastinians and othe pests) :mad: :mad:

f.uck them all so ?
if there is a palastinian which want peace, F|UCK him ?
you say, if one of million palastinian is bad, every palastinian is bad ?
eta isnt the same like palastinian, the ETA is a terrorganization, palastinan are people
good people, bad people...
if i would say, f*ck all the kurds, i would be a fascist but iam not
f+ck all kurdish terrorist
why you cant say the same ? becouse you hate them ? why you hate palestinan ?

[megapuzik]

Originally posted by murat


f.uck them all so ?
if there is a palastinian which want peace, F|UCK him ?
you say, if one of million palastinian is bad, every palastinian is bad ?
eta isnt the same like palastinian, the ETA is a terrorganization, palastinan are people
good people, bad people...
if i would say, f*ck all the kurds, i would be a fascist but iam not
f+ck all kurdish terrorist
why you cant say the same ? becouse you hate them ? why you hate palestinan ?
Only the ones in the "camps" they all came from prison or somewhere like prison..

[murat]

first you say only the from the camps then you say all are from this camps

[megapuzik]

Originally posted by murat
first you say only the from the camps then you say all are from this camps
Its my rage :mad:

[Todd]

murat, tone down the language. There is a reason the filters exist and to work around the filter sort of defeats the purpose of them.

[murat]

sorry,

[Giancarlo]

Originally posted by megapuzik

Its my rage :mad:

Damn right. When I see my countrymen die from bombs... I know who to turn it onto the terrorists. The Palestinian Authority does nothing but promotes terrorism... what was the whole weapon shipment that was intercepted by the Israelis?

In Spain, during the 1980s, the Spanish Armed Forces had assassination teams that went after individual members of ETA, ususually it was successful.

[conkermaniac]

I dislike Jews because they are the cause of everything that's gone wrong for the US right now! Without them wreaking havoc in the US government, making it seem like the US is biased, none of these Muslim countries would have hated the US enough to start violent protests and suicide missions in the first place. The main reasons Muslim countries hated the US in the first place are: a) Jewish people taking too much power in the government and influencing the US to support Israel and b) Bush Sr. attacking Iraq when it wasn't his business anyway. If only these Jewish people didn't influence the US so much, perhaps America would have stayed out of their conflicts or AT LEAST be neutral.

Sorry if I offended any Jewish people on these forums. I really don't like Hitler at all, though I admit that I might be sounding like him by blaming Jews for all of the US' problems. Again, I apologize, but many people really are starting to peeve me off, and I bet you can guess who that person it...

[roly]

Originally posted by conkermaniac
I dislike Jews because they are the cause of everything that's gone wrong for the US right now! Without them wreaking havoc in the US government, making it seem like the US is biased, none of these Muslim countries would have hated the US enough to start violent protests and suicide missions in the first place. The main reasons Muslim countries hated the US in the first place are: a) Jewish people taking too much power in the government and influencing the US to support Israel and b) Bush Sr. attacking Iraq when it wasn't his business anyway. If only these Jewish people didn't influence the US so much, perhaps America would have stayed out of their conflicts or AT LEAST be neutral.

Sorry if I offended any Jewish people on these forums. I really don't like Hitler at all, though I admit that I might be sounding like him by blaming Jews for all of the US' problems. Again, I apologize, but many people really are starting to peeve me off, and I bet you can guess who that person it...
I agree

[Giancarlo]

Originally posted by conkermaniac
I dislike Jews because they are the cause of everything that's gone wrong for the US right now! Without them wreaking havoc in the US government, making it seem like the US is biased, none of these Muslim countries would have hated the US enough to start violent protests and suicide missions in the first place. The main reasons Muslim countries hated the US in the first place are: a) Jewish people taking too much power in the government and influencing the US to support Israel and b) Bush Sr. attacking Iraq when it wasn't his business anyway. If only these Jewish people didn't influence the US so much, perhaps America would have stayed out of their conflicts or AT LEAST be neutral.

Sorry if I offended any Jewish people on these forums. I really don't like Hitler at all, though I admit that I might be sounding like him by blaming Jews for all of the US' problems. Again, I apologize, but many people really are starting to peeve me off, and I bet you can guess who that person it...

I strongly disagree... who gives you the right to say whether Bush was beyond his means in attacking Iraq? Do you have the slightest clue on what Iraq is developing? It is developing chemical and biological weapons, not including the large nuclear stockpile it is trying to develop. SO DAMN RIGHT IT IS HIS BUSINESS.

[megapuzik]

Originally posted by conkermaniac
I dislike Jews because they are the cause of everything that's gone wrong for the US right now! Without them wreaking havoc in the US government, making it seem like the US is biased, none of these Muslim countries would have hated the US enough to start violent protests and suicide missions in the first place. The main reasons Muslim countries hated the US in the first place are: a) Jewish people taking too much power in the government and influencing the US to support Israel and b) Bush Sr. attacking Iraq when it wasn't his business anyway. If only these Jewish people didn't influence the US so much, perhaps America would have stayed out of their conflicts or AT LEAST be neutral.

Sorry if I offended any Jewish people on these forums. I really don't like Hitler at all, though I admit that I might be sounding like him by blaming Jews for all of the US' problems. Again, I apologize, but many people really are starting to peeve me off, and I bet you can guess who that person it...
Please dont talk about stuff that you DONT know !!
Where is the connection with israel & iraq (and others) hate to the US ??

[Toefur]

Yes. Nobody has any right to question a president. Everyone should agree with every presidents every single decision.

Oh wait... you're allowed to question democrat presidents, but it's a sin to question republicans.

Hey guys... I'm going to let you all in on a little secret... theres a rather large landmass on this planet... get a map out you might see it... it's called "AMERICA"...

*Looks around nervously*

I've heard they have massed stockpiles of chemical, nuclear, and other dangerous weapons... :nervous:

[conkermaniac]

Look at this...

- Jewish people have too much power in the US government.
- They have influenced the US to favor Israel.
- Muslim people hate Israel.
- Since the US is supporting Israel more than the Palestinians, Muslim people hate the US as well.
- Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, Egypt, etc. are Muslim countries.

[Avenger]

War in Iraq, doesnt sound good :(

If you look in the map, towards north a bit, you'll see what I mean,

It looks something like my avatar..:(

And I disagree with any kind of racism. Jews, Muslims, anything. People vary and the best and worst can be found among people.

I too have been seeing lots of bombings here, and not just on TV, on my street! :eek: .Like, every week. Kurdish PKK, same thing. Hopefuly, it has faded now.

Nationwide war or terrorist action...
Same thing for the victim...

[Toefur]

Originally posted by megapuzik

Yea, but we dont send ppl to explode on them...



Originally posted by megapuzik

we should bomb all the palastinian "camps" We have one of the strongest air force, its oo bad that were not using it

[Avenger]

Originally posted by conkermaniac
[B]Look at this...
- Muslim people hate Israel.
- Since the US is supporting Israel more than the Palestinians, Muslim people hate the US as well.



No I don't hate nobody...

[Toefur]

Originally posted by conkermaniac
Look at this...

- Jewish people have too much power in the US government.
- They have influenced the US to favor Israel.
- Muslim people hate Israel.
- Since the US is supporting Israel more than the Palestinians, Muslim people hate the US as well.
- Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, Egypt, etc. are Muslim countries.

Bush Administration Acts Like Like Israel's Puppet (http://rense.com/general20/isr.htm)

President George W. Bush has been in how he has allowed himself to be manipulated by Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon.

The Israeli occupation of East Jerusalem, the West Bank and Gaza is illegal. When the occupation ends, peace follows. As long as the occupation continues, so will the resistance.

[Giancarlo]

Originally posted by Toefur


Bush Administration Acts Like Like Israel's Puppet (http://rense.com/general20/isr.htm)

President George W. Bush has been in how he has allowed himself to be manipulated by Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon.

The Israeli occupation of East Jerusalem, the West Bank and Gaza is illegal. When the occupation ends, peace follows. As long as the occupation continues, so will the resistance.

Another biased and full of crap article.

[Toefur]

Originally posted by Giancarlo


Another biased and full of crap article.

Please explain and give evidence that adequately supports your statement.

[megapuzik]

Originally posted by Toefur


Bush Administration Acts Like Like Israel's Puppet (http://rense.com/general20/isr.htm)

President George W. Bush has been in how he has allowed himself to be manipulated by Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon.

The Israeli occupation of East Jerusalem, the West Bank and Gaza is illegal. When the occupation ends, peace follows. As long as the occupation continues, so will the resistance.
1) I hate Ariel Sharon :mad:
2) Do you know what is "palastinians camps " ?

[Giancarlo]

Originally posted by Toefur


Please explain and give evidence that adequately supports your statement.

---- no. You obviously know that is an article supporting your phony views. Well, I am glad you won't be listened to because if you were I would rather be dead because Saddam would release Chemical weapons because you were pissing in your pants to scared to do anything.

[Toefur]

Originally posted by megapuzik

1) I hate Ariel Sharon :mad:
2) Do you know what is "palastinians camps " ?

Me either. :P

Personally, I liked Barak. (SP?) Though I am under the impression many Israeli's didn't.

I think Arafat should have accepted his offer back in 2000 or whenever it was.

I'm not sure what you are meaning by camps.

[Toefur]

Originally posted by Giancarlo


---- no. You obviously know that is an article supporting your phony views. Well, I am glad you won't be listened to because if you were I would rather be dead because Saddam would release Chemical weapons because you were pissing in your pants to scared to do anything.

Too scared to read it?
Too scared to say anything logical, and something that might have a chance at debunking that article?

I've got no idea where you get the idea that I am too scared to do anything; I would just handle situations difficult.

Either way... Check Mate my friend... you admitted defeat by refusing to support your views; and showed your true colours (that you don't even TRY to see another side) when you simply refused to say anything mature, and just say naughty bad words.

I win I win.

Toefur: 1
Giancarlo: 0

:p :p :p

[megapuzik]

Originally posted by Toefur


Me either. :P

Personally, I liked Barak. (SP?) Though I am under the impression many Israeli's didn't.

I think Arafat should have accepted his offer back in 2000 or whenever it was.

I'm not sure what you are meaning by camps.
Yea, Barak is great, but for unknowen reason all Israel hate him :biggrin2:

[Giancarlo]

Originally posted by Toefur


Too scared to read it?
Too scared to say anything logical, and something that might have a chance at debunking that article?

http://www.townhall.com - Read some articles on their for a change. Maybe your misled ideas could change.



I've got no idea where you get the idea that I am too scared to do anything; I would just handle situations difficult.

You are too scared to anything.



Either way... Check Mate my friend... you admitted defeat by refusing to support your views;

Read the articles here: http://www.townhall.com - Everything from abortion, to the NMD, to gun control issues, the works.



and showed your true colours (that you don't even TRY to see another side) when you simply refused to say anything mature, and just say naughty bad words.

READ THE DAMN PAGE: http://www.townhall.com



I win I win.

Toefur: 1
Giancarlo: 0

:p :p :p

YOU LOSE THIS... you will never win with your arbitary and false beliefs. They mean nothing and are on the lowest level of all garbage.

Edited: Bad language removed.

[murat]

Originally posted by conkermaniac

- Muslim people hate Israel.
- Since the US is supporting Israel more than the Palestinians, Muslim people hate the US as well.


are you ---- ?

[Toefur]

Originally posted by Giancarlo

http://www.townhall.com - Read some articles on their for a change. Maybe your misled ideas could change.



It gave me a blank page man! :confused: ! I will try it again later, however. I have it set as my start page, so I don't forget.

Giancarlo, you still fail to understand something. I know lots of people with similar beliefs to yours out there, that I get along well with... and that get along well with people with beliefs like mine.

Do you know why? Because they are not arrogant and ignorant of the fact that people simply have different beliefs. You simply refuse to understand the simplicity of the fact that people have different beliefs... and the only way to get along, is to understand each other and compromise.

It's okay for you to tell me you disagree with me, but it is low and pathetic to call my ideas "misled".


Originally posted by Giancarlo

You are too scared to anything.



Not only do you not make sense, your statement also lacts any basis.

As I said, I simply would act in different ways; which in no way can be attributed to me being "too scared to anything :D"


Originally posted by Giancarlo

I just did you ---- head. Read the articles here: http://www.townhall.com - Everything from abortion, to the NMD, to gun control issues, the works.


No you didn't. Not in the post I was replying to. You gave the link AFTER I claimed you wouldn't support your views.

Again, the language really isn't necessary.


Originally posted by Giancarlo



READ THE DAMN PAGE YOU IMMATURE ----: http://www.townhall.com


Language, language my friend. Your attitude, especially when you take the gutter language into consideration, is of a rather immature variety.


Originally posted by Giancarlo


YOU -------- YOU LOSE THIS... you will never win with your arbitary and false beliefs. They mean nothing and are on the lowest level of all garbage.

No, no, no... I said, I WIN! :p

GC... Why do you feel the need to resort to childish name calling and gutter language?

My beliefs are not false, they are simply different to yours; and vice versa.

Please explain how my beliefs equate to being on the lowest level of all garbage. Your statement lacks any substance.

[conkermaniac]

Originally posted by murat


are you ---- ?

Your statement makes no sense and appears unintelligible.

[Giancarlo]

Let me get back to the original question, does Saddam deserve to stay? Toefur obviously supports Saddam Hussein, he is a traitor just like John Walker.

[Giancarlo]

Originally posted by conkermaniac


Your statement makes no sense and appears unintelligible.

I think he was upset that you said "All muslims hate the US"... when Turkey and its population supports the US.

[Toefur]

Originally posted by Giancarlo
Let me get back to the original question, does Saddam deserve to stay? Toefur obviously supports Saddam Hussein, he is a traitor just like John Walker.

Obviously. :rolleyes:

Let's just pretend for a minute that I do support Hussein.

Okay? For this situation in this post we will pretend I do.

Now, you know what?

I could in no way shape or form truthfully be labelled as a traitor.

Why not?

Because not once in my life have I ever pledged allegience to any of Saddams opposition. I never in my life have pledged myself to the side of say... Australia, nor the United States.

I cannot betray something, in this hypothetical situation, for which I never held allegience to in the first place.

</end of hypothetical situation>.

That being said, I could realistically support Saddam if I wanted to, without being a traitor... for the reasons stated above.

As I am sure Walker never pledged to be on America's side in everything.

A person should not, under any circumstances, have their 'side' be dictated by the particular land mass in which they happened to be born on.

[Avenger]

For some weird reason, Turkey does his best to support The US and it seems like we hate US?

Man you really ARE ---- :P

[murat]

Originally posted by conkermaniac


Your statement makes no sense and appears unintelligible.

well, now iam sure you are very big ----

[Giancarlo]

Originally posted by Avenger
For some weird reason, Turkey does his best to support The US and it seems like we hate US?

Man you really ARE ---- :P

I got several friends that are turks... the only thing they talk about is how stupid the greeks are. :D

Turkey has quite a military though... all American backed. A well trained one too. The population sympathizes with the US... my dad told me that when he was living in Turkey working for an oil company... (east of Ankara)

And the Turks are doing well to get their financial mess in order... really well. They are recovering already. Soon they will be abled to catch up. That is very commendable.

[murat]

Originally posted by Giancarlo


I got several friends that are turks... the only thing they talk about is how stupid the greeks are. :D


armenians are more stupid
and the kurds are the stupidest

[Giancarlo]

Originally posted by murat


armenians are more stupid
and the kurds are the stupidest

Gosh I like how Turks go after others... I can see why you hate the Armenians... they come back hundred years later accusing you of atrocities. I mean come on! Turkey isn't the same as it was.

[murat]

http://www.ermenisorunu.gen.tr/english/index.html

and its not true :mad:

[Avenger]

It is very easy to talk bad of anybody, any nation. Even if you have no solid proof or any evidence, that nation is still in trouble...


And I don't know if I should say "Thanks" for your comments on Turkey:p

[conkermaniac]

Originally posted by Avenger
For some weird reason, Turkey does his best to support The US and it seems like we hate US?

Man you really ARE ---- :P

Just because the government and some people support the US doesn't mean the majority of the people support the US as well.

[murat]

Originally posted by conkermaniac


Just because the government and some people support the US doesn't mean the majority of the people support the US as well.

yeah ? but you said every muslim ? over gov arent muslims ? we support usa and hate them ? ?

[murat]

FIRST think and THEN write something

[Avenger]

Now, no need to go for words at each other, I find the "you are ----" part meaningless too.:rolleyes:

But, conker, you are %100 wrong about people not supporting the US. There are exceptions everywhere thats right, But let's not "generalize".

[Giancarlo]

I think the majority of turks support the US... conker.

[conkermaniac]

I was generalizing, yes. However, if I was specific to every extent possible, I could write a whole page. And I could pick on every single post you have ever made on these boards. Simply put, you can't be totally specific, or else your argument weakens and people aren't going to understand the focus. So I just generalized "Muslims" to make it easier to understand.

Even if Turks support the US, what about Iraqis? And Iranians? And Palestinians? And Pakistanis? Weren't they all cheering when the US was attacked?

[murat]

Originally posted by conkermaniac

Even if Turks support the US, what about Iraqis? And Iranians? And Palestinians? And Pakistanis? Weren't they all cheering when the US was attacked?

well, not really

btw what about kuwait ? UAE ? Azerbycan ? Saudi Arabia ? Turkey ?

[murat]

its almost like this:
1 german play good soccer = every german play good soccer
1 chinese use linux = every chinese use linux

if you understood what i mean

[Avenger]

Well they weren't ALL cheering for sure ;)

[conkermaniac]

Originally posted by murat
its almost like this:
1 german play good soccer = every german play good soccer
1 chinese use linux = every chinese use linux

if you understood what i mean

Yeah, but you can't deny that MANY Muslims were cheering

[murat]

no just some
but the world wants to show it like every muslim hate usa

[murat]

let us say 10%
and you can be sure min. 10% of all americans hates not only muslims...

[Avenger]

Only the BAD part shows, cuz only they appear in protests and so, TV.