Using notepad

[Alcoholokaust]

So those of you who use notepad do you actually write the code or do you have seperate text files and just copy and paste the code you need??????

Serious question not tryin to be an ---
Ive only used dreamweaver and couldnt even think of writin it notepad at least for a while anyway

[Mandrake]

I write it... It's not that hard.

[razor]

i write most of it, but i will paste some other code from other web pages iv created already, like css.

[Nick]

I do it all in NotePad or HyperEdit (same thing as NotePag, just can handle bigger/multiple files).

[Just in case anyone cares] this is my designer's toolbox:

NotePad/HyperEdit
PhotoShop 5.5
Flash 4
Poser 4
LeapFTP

[drunkmule]

CuteHTML 1.2 - It's a nice that color codes the html so it's easier to read. I'm dyslexic so this is a savoir for me.

Flash 5.0 - I don't use it very much, I got it for free anyway

PaintShop Pro 6 - The best editor ever!!!

WS_FTP Version 4? - Works great for me

Winamp - To listen to music

[Carl]

i just have a default template on my desktop with base structures including ccs.

[top]

I use EditPad. When I redesinged my site I first designed its outlook using GIMP for windows and after that I started to worry about html etc. I use ssi for the headers and footers so when I add new pages I just write the content and put the include commands on the top and bottom. SO actually I don't need to write a lot of html anymore on that site.

At the moment I am starting to design another site and I started making a basic table structure with the right colors. I don't do very (don't know how) complicated stuff, just basic things. Javascript is mostly copypasted.

[Christy]

I write the whole thing in NotePad...

[Alcoholokaust]

Icouldnt even think about doin it notepad right now give me a year or two and i might
:p

[WHo CaREs]

i use notepad to write all of my html code, the only things i copy and paste are css, meta and javascript codes.

What i use:

Gimp
Notepad
cuteFTP
Flash 4
Jawf

Alcoholokaust how can you stand to use a html editor?

[Koolguy]

I use notepad to write:

HTML
PHP
Perl
Javascript
CSS
Java
Qbasic

[Koolguy]

Oh and here is a related thread:

http://www.freewebspace.net/forums/showthread.php?threadid=158

[Nick]

Originally posted by drunkmule
PaintShop Pro 6 - The best editor ever!!!


I don't know if you've ever heard about this cool program, but it's called P-H-O-T-O S-H-O-P.

[Alcoholokaust]

Its all ive ever used im a NEWBIE maaaaaan lol aint done but 2 sites and still not that great at it but give some time :)



Agrees with nick P H O T O S H O P

[laine]

Yeah... P H O T O S H O P !!! :)

i use notepad too... i like it cos it does not eat up too much memory in your computer

but sometimes i don't know why i have to use EditPad instead(actually this is better becus you can open more than one files and you don't have to have 100000 windows opens :) ) but the probelm for notepad is sometimes when i copy and paste javascript to change some variables, then i save it, all the spaces and line breaks are gone and they get all mixed up, so the script doesn't work.....

geez... :P

has anyone experienced that?

[razor]

-Note Pad (for HTML,PHP, & CGI)
-Photoshop 5
-Flash 5
-Dreamweaver 3
-Blender (a 3d rendering tool)

[Nick]

Originally posted by laine
has anyone experienced that?

I have that problem with Matt's CGI scripts. They have those little �'s every where and it screws up the script. EditPad doesn't have this problem :D.

[laine]

agree... so :) edit pad is better than notepad, but its generally the same... but edit pad has more functions ;)

[dn52002]

Oh my God, you guys use notepad?? :)

Are you guys into Sado-Maso??? :) I like to use Emacs on UNIX machines and Homesite on Windows. All the blazing colours, it is very helpful when you throw codes in it...
And when I play with tables, I use macromedia dreamweaver 4 - I get dillusionnal when I see too many <td> :)

[Alcoholokaust]

How do you remember all that ---- yall must still have all yalls brain cells










lol "yalls" damn redneck

[LeX]

Notepad's great, I started making pages with Notepad. It does get annoying when you have to work on another page and you gotta open Notepad again, and you can't open a new file within the same window without having to save and close your current file first. But I like it, and have used it until recently, when I realized that it would be painful to keep all my pages updated with the current code, so...
Oh, yeah... I have that copied script problem with Notepad too...

Here's my current list o' Webtools:
1. CuteHTML 4 <-- I replaced Notepad w/ this, although it's not as fast as Notepad, you get color coded codes which gets useful at times, and you can view it by clicking on a button, AND you can open multiple windows in it. I write (code) everything here, and then copy/paste it to a new template page in Dreamweaver.
2. Dreamweaver 4 <-- I recently started using this just for the template thing, but honestly speaking, I don't really like it. They pack the codes all together and makes it look real ugly and crammed. It's pretty slow too, and it opens a new window every time I want to open a file, and if you close a file it asks wether you want to exit Dreamweaver or not. If it wasn't for the template feature....
3. CuteFTP 4 <-- It's real nice, but I'm considering switching to LeapFTP.
4. Photoshop 4 <-- It's the best imaging software available, although I'm kinda fed up with version 4 (buggy, really weird stuff happens when editing images), but who wants to pay $600 for a new one?!
(lol, looks like I've got this thing with the number 4, eh?)

There are some other softwares on my pooter that I meant to use but never did/try/learn or only used a few times:
1. Flash 4
2. Ulead COOL 3D 3.0 <-- is this good?

I hate PSP.

Somebody recommend me a good 3D graphics software, free or not. If it's pay software, I'll just find some friend who has the damn full version, grab the reg num and use it :p If this makes you feel uncomfortable, just pretend that I can make my dad go buy the software... :D

[LeX]

Being a newbie is no excuse for not knowing how to use Notepad to write codes. If you're like that (you hinted that you are), then you're one real sorry..... guy (or gal).

If you need an excuse, then you can tell me that you don't know a single thing about HTML, that you never viewed other people's source codes, and that you don't have a clue to what your HTML editor does to your page....
I self-taught myself HTML, and, I won't deny this, I learned by viewing other people's source codes and see what each tag does/is for. It's trial and error sometimes, but I can understand it pretty quickly, it's not hard at all.

I hand-type all of my codes, the only thing I copy are other people's scripts (like those in javascripts.com or dynamicdrive.com), if they say that I can. I hate WYSIWYG editors, they're awful, and not very powerful.

Heck, it's not hard to make a page with HTML, there are only a few basic tags you need to know, namely the <HTML>, <HEAD>, <TITLE>, <BODY>, <B>, <I>, <U>, <A>, <IMG>, <FONT>, <CENTER>, <BR>, <P> and <HR> codes. If you can do that, then you can make a page with Notepad. Not hard at all. You can create a decent page using these tags. If you want to go for more advanced stuff, you can play around with the <TABLE> tags... that'll be sufficient to make your page look professional - if you know how.

Actually, if you're too lazy, you can just type whatever you want, save it as .htm or .html, upload it and it'll show up fine, though not proper HTML, but most browsers won't care, really.

[Edited by LeX on 01-27-2001 at 09:02 AM]

[Nick]

Originally posted by LeX
<P> and <HR>

Tsk! Tsk! You should never use <P> tags because you have to close the damn things! Always use <br><br> in the place of a <P> tag.

And <HR>? That tag should be removed from the HTML markup.

[LeX]

Originally posted by Nick

Originally posted by LeX
<P> and <HR>

Tsk! Tsk! You should never use <P> tags because you have to close the damn things! Always use <br><br> in the place of a <P> tag.

And <HR>? That tag should be removed from the HTML markup.

Well... I have just contented myself to using <P> in place of <br><br>'s, and now you're telling me NOT to use <P>??? I never closed the damn tag, and it showed up nice and tidy in IE for me! But since you said that it aint no good, I suppose I'll take your word for it and replace those <P>'s sometime...

'bout them <HR>'s... they're ugly, yes, but that's what they used back in the 1990's. Besides, that alcoholokaust dude might not even know about this tag, so I thought I'd just be nice and let him know that such tags exists.....

[Koolguy]

I have a book that gives you all the information on all of the tags in HTML 4.01. hehe anybody ever heard of <acronym> <address> <bdo> <cite> <code> <dd> <del> <dfm> <em> <ins> <isindex> <kbd> <legen> <q> <stamp> <sub> <sup> <thead>

[LeX]

<sup> <sub> yeah, the others, no.

But they have this page at Micro----s that has this list of possible tags for the IE5.5 . Kinda interesting, but they don't work with other browsers, like the <button> and <marquee> tags.

[Canuckkev]

I sometimes use notepad, but I like CoffeeCup HTML 8.7 . It has some good features. It's pretty fast. And you can upload your pages by just clicking the upload button.

And I NEVER use <P> to just jump to the next line. <BR><BR> is cleaner code. I use the <P> tag to align text. Oh, and <HR> is a waste of a tag. Maybe back in HTML 1.0 (or soething) when there were no images, it had a use, but it's a lost tag now.

And Alcoholokaust, HTML is A LOT easier to code when you can see the source. After a bit of practice, you'll be able type out all the code. When I started, I used a prog called Webford. It had all the basic tags and stuff, so when I wanted to make a table, I'd click the icon in the toolbar, and it would give me a window to input the attributes. This was really easy. And when I click OK, the code would pop up on the page, so after a few times, I could just type it out myself. This way of learning is a lot better than using a WYSIWYG editor. IMO, those things are crap.

[WHo CaREs]

dose anyone know a site that just gives the tags for html 4? also when using xml, what do you end the file name with? like in html you end it with .html

[LeX]

http://w3.org