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Giancarlo
March 16th, 2002, 18:38
I added a few things to my site and was wondering if it would work on every browser... including the neat little border thing.

http://glomar.net/gc

Thanks in advanced.
cheatpark
March 16th, 2002, 18:55
Your mouse over effects don't work in netscape.
Giancarlo
March 16th, 2002, 18:58
Originally posted by cheatpark
Your mouse over effects don't work in netscape.

What happens with them in netscape? They just don't show?
Jan
March 16th, 2002, 19:02
They just look like words, but you can click on them.
Giancarlo
March 16th, 2002, 19:03
Originally posted by Jan
They just look like words, but you can click on them.

Just standard links? Well, I guess that won't matter much to netscape users...

Also does the border work?
Jan
March 16th, 2002, 19:06
The border works yes. And there are no visible links, it is just that I ran my mouse over them to see they were in fact links and it would allow me to click on them.
Giancarlo
March 16th, 2002, 19:08
Originally posted by Jan
The border works yes. And there are no visible links, it is just that I ran my mouse over them to see they were in fact links and it would allow me to click on them.

Now that is bad... gotta fix that.

Edit: Does it work now?
Jan
March 16th, 2002, 19:11
Nope
Dusty
March 16th, 2002, 19:15
In NS6 the links do turn blue on mouse over, but if they're supposed to do anything beyond that, no, they don't work.
Giancarlo
March 16th, 2002, 19:15
Originally posted by Jan
Nope

So they do show up, but there is no hover? I don't know what is wrong... the script seems to be working fine.

Dusty: That is what they are supposed to do.
meow
March 16th, 2002, 19:19
GC means a blue border around the whole page, Jan.

No GC, as fas as I know IE is the only one that displays border on body in that way. Even if that wasn't the case it wouldn't work anyway because you specifically test for IE before you serve the code Forgot about that, huh? :D
--------------
if (document.all)
document.body.style.cssText="border:10 ridge navy"
</script>
--------------

Nice to see you've installed Netscape now cheatpark. But you see browsers come in many versions. More recent versions of all major browsers support "hover".

But you two pro's of course knew this already. It's so uplifting to see pages that aren't basic and unprofessional. ;)

*hat tip* read a book!
Giancarlo
March 16th, 2002, 19:21
I know... anyways, 85% of my users use IE.

That border not visible isn't a big loss.
meow
March 16th, 2002, 19:28
Then why do you ask?

I see the hover in K-Mel, but the reason it doesn't work for Dusty is probably that your whole style sheet is illegal. *hint* CSS isn't HTML - so take the tags away.
Giancarlo
March 16th, 2002, 19:31
Umm tell me what is wrong with it because I don't follow...

http://glomar.net/gc/default.css
meow
March 16th, 2002, 19:39
Do you know what a TAG is? You know, like <html>, <p>, <font>? That's HTML, not CSS.
Giancarlo
March 16th, 2002, 19:40
Originally posted by meow
Do you know what a TAG is? You know, like <html>, <p>, <font>? That's HTML, not CSS.

Yes I do. I just misinterpreted. There is nothing I can do about that. Sorry.
meow
March 16th, 2002, 19:43
Ah, the direct reason actually is that your host, below10 the supa host, serves CSS files with the wrong MIME type. You've better talk to them.

They serve the file as text/plain and it should be text/css. Hmmm, why doesn't K-Mel choke on that?
Giancarlo
March 16th, 2002, 19:44
Originally posted by meow
Ah, the direct reason actually is that your host, below10 the supa host, serves CSS files with the wrong MIME type. You've better talk to them.

They serve the file as text/plain and it should be text/css. Hmmm, why doesn't K-Mel choke on that?

I better tell them... they will fix it.
meow
March 16th, 2002, 19:46
Originally posted by Giancarlo


Yes I do. I just misinterpreted. There is nothing I can do about that. Sorry.
:whatthe:
Can't you delete the tags in your css document? Why? Is your keyboard broken?
Giancarlo
March 16th, 2002, 19:47
Originally posted by meow

:whatthe:
Can't you delete the tags in your css document? Why? Is your keyboard broken?

Give me some damn time to do that... just hold and be patience, DAMN IT.
meow
March 16th, 2002, 19:53
I see you did manage to get them away. Now there is only one left, the HTML comment.

<!--
body {
SCROLLBAR-ARROW-COLOR: #FFFFFF;
SCROLLBAR-BASE-COLOR: #191970;
SCROLLBAR-FACE-COLOR: #4682B4;
SCROLLBAR-TRACK-COLOR: #454B74;
}
-->

This is a CSS comment:

/*
body {
SCROLLBAR-ARROW-COLOR: #FFFFFF;
SCROLLBAR-BASE-COLOR: #191970;
SCROLLBAR-FACE-COLOR: #4682B4;
SCROLLBAR-TRACK-COLOR: #454B74;
}
*/
Giancarlo
March 16th, 2002, 19:54
Good one! Now the scroll bar doesn't work.
cheatpark
March 16th, 2002, 19:59
I think he meant to change it and not delete it.
Giancarlo
March 16th, 2002, 20:06
Originally posted by cheatpark
I think he meant to change it and not delete it.

No kidding! Gee you don't say? I did change it!
meow
March 16th, 2002, 20:09
If you want it to work don't have it in a comment. :rolleyes:

FYI this is the code w/o any comment:

body {
SCROLLBAR-ARROW-COLOR: #FFFFFF;
SCROLLBAR-BASE-COLOR: #191970;
SCROLLBAR-FACE-COLOR: #4682B4;
SCROLLBAR-TRACK-COLOR: #454B74;
}
Giancarlo
March 16th, 2002, 20:14
Done and Done.
meow
March 16th, 2002, 20:19
Nice. Maybe you two should stop dissing people about their unprofessional and bland sites now? I think that would be a good idea. ;)
Giancarlo
March 16th, 2002, 20:23
Originally posted by meow
Nice. Maybe you two should stop dissing people about their unprofessional and bland sites now? I think that would be a good idea. ;)

Whoa... what is wrong with my site if I am not permitted to criticise? I don't diss people, I criticise them.
Dusty
March 16th, 2002, 20:28
Maybe you two should stop dissing people about their unprofessional and bland sites now? I think that would be a good idea. ;)Well now, in defense of Giancarlo and Cheatpark, I may not know how to build a nuclear reactor, but I sure can tell when somebody's doing it wrong. :D
Giancarlo
March 16th, 2002, 20:29
Originally posted by Dusty
Well now, in defense of Giancarlo and Cheatpark, I may not know how to build a nuclear reactor, but I sure can tell when somebody's doing it wrong. :D

Hey you are right on that one... I just point out things that are wrong. Like with one site it was messed and I took a screenshot of it... no harm in that?
meow
March 16th, 2002, 20:52
Originally posted by Dusty
Well now, in defense of Giancarlo and Cheatpark, I may not know how to build a nuclear reactor, but I sure can tell when somebody's doing it wrong. :D

But then you don't go around and tell people what a professional reactor you have and how unprofessional theirs is, do you? :biggrin2:

Sorry for doing this to you guys, but by God you deserved it. I'm not proud over myself but the bait was just too big. And at least your sites will work a little better. :D

Another thing - telling people that they *must* have a site that looks like everyone else's and have the same forum as every other site isn't a good idea either. That actually isn't a criteria of good design at all. Just of insecurity and lack of fantasy.
cheatpark
March 16th, 2002, 20:53
Yeah, it's very easy to go through someone else's source and pick out loads of bad stuff.
meow
March 16th, 2002, 20:54
Yeah? Then I suggest you two cooperate in the future and do it for each other. :p
Giancarlo
March 16th, 2002, 20:55
Originally posted by meow


But then you don't go around and tell people what a professional reactor you have and how unprofessional theirs is, do you? :biggrin2:

Did I ever say my site was professional in comparsion to other sites? No I did not.



Sorry for doing this to you guys, but by God you deserved it. I'm not proud over myself but the bait was just too big. And at least your sites will work a little better. :D

I review sites, not compare them. This was a slight problem I had because I am not experienced in field of CSS style sheets. But I do know how to spot HTML problems.



Another thing - telling people that they *must* have a site that looks like everyone else's and have the same forum as every other site isn't a good idea either. That actually isn't a criteria of good design at all. Just of insecurity and lack of fantasy.

No. I give suggestions.

Again meow, why don't you zip your mouth? You obviously don't know what you are talking about.
cheatpark
March 16th, 2002, 20:57
Originally posted by meow
Yeah? Then I suggest you two cooperate in the future and do it for each other. :p
Have you got any source code? :biggrin2:
meow
March 16th, 2002, 20:59
Here we go again! ROTFLMAO

Note that I'm not the one that diss newbies - you are. And that's what I resent.
Giancarlo
March 16th, 2002, 20:59
Originally posted by meow
Here we go again! ROTFLMAO

Note that I'm not the one that diss newbies - you are. And that's what I resent.

----ing crap, I don't diss newbies for the last damn time, I criticise sites, that is all.
cheatpark
March 16th, 2002, 21:00
Originally posted by meow
Here we go again! ROTFLMAO

Note that I'm the one that diss newbies. And that's what I resent.