Yay, my computer died

[Wojtek]

Turned off the pc last night
tried to turn in back on this morning, press the power button. Nothing.

switched the switch on the back on/off, unplugged ac cable, waited a few mins, plugged back in, press power button. Nothing.

I'm assuming it's my power supply wich died.
As if it was the mobo, the fans would still start spinning. Am I right?

[Bruce]

Do the PSU fans and any other case fans connected directly to the PSU (i.e. not a motherboard header) spin up?

If not, it's likely the PSU.

[Wojtek]

yea, they'r connected straight to the fans.
dead psu.
im a little dissapointed. Would of imagined an antec quality thing would last longer then 2 years

[spiralfive]

If you want to see if it's the PSU you can jump it off without it being connected to anything else, see this guide: http://www.gideontech.com/content/articles/196/1

[utcrazy]

I'd assume it's the power supply as well, easy enough to replace though.

[Wojtek]

If you want to see if it's the PSU you can jump it off without it being connected to anything else, see this guide: http://www.gideontech.com/content/articles/196/1
interesting, i'll try that when im back from work
hopefully its only the psu.
I'v been wanting to change the case anyways lately, it started having this yellowish tint haha

[Galaxy-Hosts.com]

I'd assume it's the power supply as well, easy enough to replace though.A PSU is the power supply. And yes I think you have a dead PSU.

[Daniel]

If you want to see if it's the PSU you can jump it off without it being connected to anything else, see this guide: http://www.gideontech.com/content/articles/196/1

It's not a good idea to start a powersupply without a load.

[Wojtek]

i'll unplug the hard disks and only leave my fans plugged in.
hopefully it wont start

i'd rather buy a new case/psu now

then have to replace mobo + cpu, dont think any new ones take barthons
and i replaced my vid card + ide disk recently

would of bought pci-e & sata if i knew mobo replacment was comming.
ahh, sucky situation

*prays mobo connector or switch cable got loose*
ifnot goto
* prays its the psu*
:p

[Galaxy-Hosts.com]

Most likely you wont have to replace the mobo and processor. You can still find barton mobos.

[Wojtek]

I'm not sure what to buy here.
I'v got 3 choises

Antec TX640B (400W)
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=16627

Arctic Cooling Silentium T1 (350W)
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=14892

Nexus Breeze (http://www.nexustek.nl/breeze.htm) (400W)
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=13766


I'v got the antec SXII630 now, and still like how it looks like, the TX640 is an updated black version of it. I like it.
The T1 is a cheap knockoff the Nexus one. 1/2 price. why not? and it looks quite nice. Sleek and simple. Nexus' the real "silent case" deal. But do I really need it? i'v got an aquarium thats lounder then my pc hehe

What would you take from those 3?

[Galaxy-Hosts.com]

Those cases seem to be a little over priced. You may want to check out http://www.mwave.com/mwave/DEPTcase.hmx? Over the past 5 years I have bought a bunch of parts from them and I have always been happy with their services.

[Daniel]

Those cases seem to be a little over priced. You may want to check out http://www.mwave.com/mwave/DEPTcase.hmx? Over the past 5 years I have bought a bunch of parts from them and I have always been happy with their services.

Canadian funds are often more expensive than their American counter-parts. :)

Wojtek, go with the Arctic Cooling T1. The Seasonic powersupplies are among the best in the world.

[Wojtek]

Those cases seem to be a little over priced.
never bought a plastic case.
never will.
:)

Thanks for input daniel, that was my number1 choise

[GlennBeforeTime]

Man thats bad luck.

I used to have a really crappy computer and when the power went out once it took my 20GB Hard Drive with it. I was so mad, but with a little time, money and dedication I now have a 120GB Hard Drive and over 2.6Ghz CPU + 1GB DDR Ram. It's very good now :D
Any way I know how u feel as I also have had quite a few PSU pack up on me but they are cheaper to replace then a Hard Drive or Computer it's self *Thank God!*

http://www.freewebspace.net/forums/images/icons/icon14.gif Best of luck mate! And I hope you get a really good new and reliable PSU :D

[DarkBlood]

Turned off the pc last night
tried to turn in back on this morning, press the power button. Nothing.

switched the switch on the back on/off, unplugged ac cable, waited a few mins, plugged back in, press power button. Nothing.

I'm assuming it's my power supply wich died.
As if it was the mobo, the fans would still start spinning. Am I right?

Same thing happened to me after my power on button for my gateway case stopped working and I had to result in turning on and off the powerstrip. It fried the Power Supply. But now I have a new and improved IBM NetVista Tower with 933 MHz! :p

[spiralfive]

Coincidentally, my PC started having trouble with it's PSU (I think) lately. It turns itself on at irregular intervals, turns itself off, and makes the hard drives short out. Based on previous issues, and the fact that it's a cheap PSU, I think it's the PSU.

[Wojtek]

So I came back from work yesterday, and try to boot it. nothing.
mind you my sister was trying all day to start the thing up.

then i press the button once more. wow! the blue vid card led started to shine and fans were spinning, wow its alive!

booted up fine, all was working properly.

so i'v left if there and went to eat/bath

came back and it was still alive.
i wanted to make a test so i'v shut it down. pressed the power button and... nothing

damn thing.

so im not sure here.
it does start, but only once pres 1000 power button presses or something

so what is at fault here?
case's power button?
mobo?
psu acting strange

[DarkBlood]

Probably is the power supply or the button. It's usually never the Motherboard if it is those symptoms.

[spiralfive]

You could manually trip the motherboard to make it come on. Open it up and see if there are any LED's lighting up on the motherboard, especially any NIC cards (you could see those outside of the case). If they're on, you know there's something wrong with your power button or motherboard.

To trip the power button, get a flat head screwdriver and touch the two connectors that lead out to the power button (you'll have to remove the wire to do that). If you do it correctly, the computer will come one and you'll know that the power button is screwed up. What kind of case does your computer have?

[Wojtek]

You could manually trip the motherboard to make it come on. Open it up and see if there are any LED's lighting up on the motherboard, especially any NIC cards (you could see those outside of the case). If they're on, you know there's something wrong with your power button or motherboard.

To trip the power button, get a flat head screwdriver and touch the two connectors that lead out to the power button (you'll have to remove the wire to do that). If you do it correctly, the computer will come one and you'll know that the power button is screwed up. What kind of case does your computer have?
I don't have any internal leds, not on the mobo and not on the psu itself.
my case is an antec sx630 (http://www.antec.com/us/productDetails.php?ProdID=80632)

[spiralfive]

Well, if it is the power switch you'll be happy to know it costs only $14.95 for a whole new front panel.

Like I said, you could try to jump off the motherboard to turn it on manually, or just buy a new PSU and see if that cures the problem. :-)

[Brandon]

I bought a 480W for 19.99 New. Best PSU I have ever bought :D

[Wojtek]

i wouldnt trust a budget psu

a good one will set me back almost hundred dollars
i'd rather buy a case/psu combo for a couple dollars more :)

I'll try your screwdriver trick when i com back from work spiral, good idea.

[utcrazy]

I bought a very sexy case with PSU for about $70, it's a very cool case and a nice PSU, so a PSU alone isn't going to run you "almost a hundred" I went out to computerXS a couple months ago, and they gave me a free PSU for an old linux box. Nice people.

[Bruce]

A decent PSU will cost you almost a hundred. I wouldn't spend much less than that for a quality 500+ watt PSU.

[utcrazy]

500+ watt? Maybe I'm just way off with new technology :)

[spiralfive]

My (dying) PSU is 420watt budget (cheap) PSU which came with the original RaidMax Scorpio 868 case, until I got an Antec case (think it's a SLK300B). Until recently, I had no trouble out of it.

I might want to mention that it's hard to trip off the mobo connectors, and would suggest trying to trip off the PSU.

You wouldn't happen to know what brand/model of PSU and mobo you have, do you?

[Wojtek]

some updates on my thing here

I'v tried to turn on the psu itself with no success
i'll actually ripped one of those activity leds from the front of the case, cut the wires, srtipped both ends and plugged the thing instead of the power button connector

plugged power cable, swtiched psu on, and tried to jump it. no results

trying to jump the psu itself using that atx connecor thing yielded no results either.


So I took my mom's hp and brought it in my room, took off the cover and somehow managed to stretch the psu connectors from my case and plugged them into the hp. this hp has a green led on the mobo that indicates power. and it was lit.
however pressing the power button did nothing.
the hp's psu wires were too short to reach into my case. couldnt test that way.

got fed up and brought the hp back in the living room.

came back to my room and plygged everything back.
pressed the power button just to see, and wow, it came on!

and it's been on for a couple minutes now :p
I don't dare to turn the thing off now. it'll have to be up till next tuesday.
friday payday, gotta order case/psu, they dont ship on weekeds. they'll ship on monday and I'll get it on tuesday.

7+days of uptime required.


My psu is a 220W antec. the one that came with the case.

[spiralfive]

I think it's your motherboard. :) Do you know what brand/model it is? Even though it's a pain to replace, they're really cheap. What kind of CPU does this computer have? The HP computer? Make sure you have that little green wire (if this applies) that Intel chips require, plugged in (square cable from PSU). Other than that, it's hard to say without being there and having the parts to diagnose it.

[Wojtek]

its not the mobo
otherwise the hp would of turned on with my psu

and as i said i coudlnt jump start the psu itself using

http://www.gideontech.com/content/articles/196/1

[tandoc]

You may have already done this and said so and I've missed it, but try taking a look inside the case...

Had a very similar problem for the past few days...

[Wojtek]

but try taking a look inside the case...
Captain' Obvious has Spoken! :p

Been done. My PSU dosnt turn on another computer.
While this second computer's PSU turns it on no problem.

I think it's safe to assume its a bad PSU :)

[Daniel]

My psu is a 220W antec. the one that came with the case.


It must be atleast like 5 years old. I never knew Antec made 220W psus... Also, you're running that with a 6600GT? That's likely to pull some serious power. I wouldn't run that with anything less than a quality 350W bare minimum.

[Brandon]

6600GT+220w PSU = Asking for trouble.
I'm surprised the Card would actually work with that little power!

[heymrdj]

Yup. Try at least a Seasonic S12 380 for that card. Probably a 430 would be better.

[spiralfive]

I dunno, I powered a Athlon XP 2800+, ATI Radeon 9800 Pro AIW, x3 Hard Drives, x2 Optical Drives, x4 fans, and a bunch of other crap off a budget PSU.

The only reason I got the 420watt is because iBuyPower (who made the computer) wanted me to see if that was the problem. It wasnt. It was actually (somehow) the Video Card, CPU, Motherboard, and Memory all messed up.... or they replaced all of that, at least.

[Wojtek]

Antec's website says its a 300W psu, but my sticker says actual output is 220W. Humm.

But it worked fine with the 6600gt card since the day I got it.
And I didnt play any games for the last month, so im pretty sure its not the card that finished up the psu by just displaying stuff on my screen :)

[Brandon]

Try looking for a Logisys or Antec PSU, I have had great experiances with both.