datacenters

[Deltaforce229]

does anyone know where to find a datacenter? i have 3 very large heavy servers i want to put into a datacenter and i cant find any. i'v searched google and find only one place near me and they have speeds slower then my home internet connection and want 150 a month for each box.

[Craig]

First thing is, where are you located?.

[hottweelz]

Co-location is very expensive, moreso sometimes then leasing a server itself. Tell us your location and we'll give you a TOP 3 list ;)

[needlehost]

this still makes no sense to me;)
Heres what I understand:
When your on a server with a 10mps connection that connection is actually shared over the servers in the space.
I was looking into getting myself a nice, simple p4 and leasing it in a 1 u, but the costs were ridiculous.
can anyone get me space that EQUATES to 10mps speed 1u space and is under $100?

[Bruce]

can anyone get me space that EQUATES to 10mps speed 1u space and is under $100?
Not going to happen... try closer to $30 per 1u and $100 per mbit.

[hottweelz]

Yes, lease one.

[needlehost]

so $30 for a 1u space and then $100 for ever 1mbit on top of that
so for 1u of space with 1mbit line $130? madness, I can get a server for that plus rackspace...
I would rather have my own server in my own space, You have that bit more control and you cut out a middleman, you can also get the perfect server.

[hottweelz]

Providers by in bulk, some oversell, but it's their responsibility... what you are looking at is the real deal with pricing.

You get good deals if you buy multitudes of it in bulk, then leasing the equipment.

This is why it takes at least 3 years for a real provider to go from dbt to profit. Hence, business loans, investments, credit... uh oh... next thing you know you HAVE to be a Corporation.

[needlehost]

heh, I was looking at hostfrog
# 100 mpbs Unmetered
# Premium Bandwidth
# 24/7 On Site Admins
# 4 Static IP Address
# Unlimted Reboots
# CPanel/WHM (+30.00/m)
# Managed Colocation
10 u at 5k a month

so, we'll say 10mps a server:D
10 servers, thats $500 a month.
ouch.
how much bulk to get 1u for $100?
I'm guessing a couple of cabinets?
I'm genuinelly interested.

[hottweelz]

heh, I was looking at hostfrog
# 100 mpbs Unmetered
# Premium Bandwidth
# 24/7 On Site Admins
# 4 Static IP Address
# Unlimted Reboots
# CPanel/WHM (+30.00/m)
# Managed Colocation
10 u at 5k a month

so, we'll say 10mps a server:D
10 servers, thats $500 a month.
ouch.
how much bulk to get 1u for $100?
I'm guessing a couple of cabinets?
I'm genuinelly interested.

Are you asking for an offer, (this isn't our thread) but I can PM youi.

[Bruce]

If you just want to colo a few servers, this is the one time I would probably suggest going through a middleman. If they are buying in bulk, they can afford to cut you a better deal than if you were to go directly to the datacenter yourself.

Quality also comes into play here. Datacenter is a very loose term that can apply anywhere from someone's old garage (:p) to the likes of Equinix's multi-million dollar facilities. You will pay a lot more for that quality. Now the same can be said for bandwidth as well. Cogent, for example, will be much cheaper than InterNAP/Peer1.

[spiralfive]

I was thinking of purchasing a server and getting it co-located, but it costs more than a dedicated server. Why is that? :) All they're doing is giving you rackspace and a connection.

[hottweelz]

I was thinking of purchasing a server and getting it co-located, but it costs more than a dedicated server. Why is that? :) All they're doing is giving you rackspace and a connection.

Please see my Post #8 :)

[needlehost]

Are you asking for an offer, (this isn't our thread) but I can PM youi.
yes please.
If you work out how much space I need to buy for 1u to = $100
and how much the total cost is.
Thanks.

[NetCafe]

I was thinking of purchasing a server and getting it co-located, but it costs more than a dedicated server. Why is that? :) All they're doing is giving you rackspace and a connection.

it is really not in your best interest if you only have 1 or 2 servers to colo, might as well lease one.

The only advantage is when you are ready for 100mbps line and a couple of servers.

[hottweelz]

You guys are forgetting about T1/Ethernet/Etc Cross Connects. And also, do you really want 20AMPs dedicated to a Cabinet. Probably not... you need 40 AMPS, Servers start to stress.. 40 AMPS if you use Dell PowerEdge Servers for sure.

I'm thinking for like $7500 per month. Plus a $1200 Setup Fee. 100mbps Unmetered Cabinet. In IOWA, I'm thinking the "Best Kept Secret Around"

[needlehost]

would hostfrog please confirm their prices?
according to http://www.hostfrog.com/colocation.php
1/4 a cabinet 10mps is 5k but 1/2 cabinet 100mps is 2.9k
hottweelz: hostfrog undercuts your offer by about 4.6k
am I missing something?

[Bruce]

Needles, if you want to know about HostFrog's services, contact them.

[Deltaforce229]

guys i didnt say anything about colocation why are you all posting about it?

[needlehost]

if you want to put servers in a dc, thats collocation.

[Bruce]

guys i didnt say anything about colocation why are you all posting about it?Well, what is it you want then? :confused:

[needlehost]

sure, ignore my post;)

[hottweelz]

would hostfrog please confirm their prices?
according to http://www.hostfrog.com/colocation.php
1/4 a cabinet 10mps is 5k but 1/2 cabinet 100mps is 2.9k
hottweelz: hostfrog undercuts your offer by about 4.6k
am I missing something?

Actually, my quote was a FULL Cabinet 45U+N1

According to that site it's 4IP addresses. I offered 32.

[needlehost]

hmm.
I'm actually planning on re-entering hosting:) should be fun.

[hottweelz]

hmm.
I'm actually planning on re-entering hosting:) should be fun.

re-entering? Just lease a box. Don't waste money.:angel:

[needlehost]

hmm, yes, but after catch-free I need to be more carefull, I'll have to get hold of very good illegal file scanners...

[hottweelz]

hmm, yes, but after catch-free I need to be more carefull, I'll have to get hold of very good illegal file scanners...

Don't worry about Illegal File Scanners. Just verify everyone you host.

Don't trust ANYTHING automated when your name is on the line. Everything should be done manually.

[needlehost]

yes, I've had that suggestion. However, If im as popular as before I'll quickly end up with a couple k people in a few days. I can verify them all, check domains for porn ect... related names. I'm planning on using clientexec, I take it it's good;)

[hottweelz]

yes, I've had that suggestion. However, If im as popular as before I'll quickly end up with a couple k people in a few days. I can verify them all, check domains for porn ect... related names. I'm planning on using clientexec, I take it it's good;)

I guarantee you, and please take no affense, if you wind up with a couple thousand in a few days. You're doing something wrong.

[needlehost]

I beg to differ:P people love a no frills host without adverts:D
I can do that comfortable. You want to put a bet on this;)
When I re-enter I'll be a bit restricted becuase of my budget, I'll have to limit sign ups ect... when I can be running full pelt (probably a month after start), then I will say that yes, I can get 2k signups in 5 days.

[hottweelz]

OK I'm just saying ;) Quality vs Quantity.