This has to be sorted.

[needlehost]

I realise I am not the only person with issues about fws.
I like it here, but I think for fws to continue succeding as a communitie things need to be changed.
I hope that in this thread people can post their differences without this being locked/banned/deleted becuase discussion is what makes a communitie tick!
Several issues need to be resolved, mods, fws issues (crashes) and hosts posting here.
I am not best placed to post these, those directly affected please post.
Thanks, I hope a better fws can be created:-)

[DarkBlood]

Also, I've been told by Bruce that if you find an advertisement thread in the Free Services Forum, rather than reply to it... report the post. We don't want to add to the spam.

I also think everyone knows about FWS crashes as well as plenty of other things. For example, I contribute bad things most of the time, whereas Tree or other people think I should contribute things I haven't ever contributed to this site yet.

[Richard]

NetCafe is banned again?

My God, when will the mods ban the hosts that want your money to run off with it and leave the good hosts alone, I don't care if I get banned for saying this; But this place has been going to the dogs recently.

[Peo]

I appreciate your suggestions and feedback on how to improve FreeWebspace.net.

These are all very seperate issues. If you have any specific questions for me I'll answer them. The server crash we had a couple of weeks ago have been sorted as you see now and can read more about in that specific thread. We haven't had any problems with the new server since then. Yes, NetCafe has been banned for breaking the rules. And yes, ads in Free Services are not allowed. It should be posted in Ads & Offers (1 ad per 7 days) or if it's a free host, in Free Hosting Offers. If you see spam in Free Services, please report it.

[hottweelz]

My God, when will the mods ban the hosts that want your money to run off with it and leave the good hosts alone, I don't care if I get banned for saying this; But this place has been going to the dogs recently.

I think this is a very valid point... and brought up in the past. And it's not just NetCafe getting Banned


**Edit.... based on PM's, Emails, and conversations like these elsewhere... a LOT of people are using the term "going to the dogs" with FWS....

Is that a cultural term... that phrase is really almost too coincidental... but still valid.

[needlehost]

No offense to the mods, you guys NEED to listen more discontent is rife, banning's of certain members dosn't help.

[hottweelz]

97 Views, 6 Replies, ...seems there's a paranoia of being banned as well.

[~GURU~]

@ PEO

I'm not trying to be cocky, yes i know you have the controls and all.

but why do you think that a lo of webhosts are complaining and giving these type of remarks?

Be it seperate issues or what ever, may we then for arguement sake take NC's case up?

[needlehost]

Agreed, although this isn't just about netcafe, its the attitude.
The forum is made of its members, not its mods.

[Peo]

Sure. Can we stick to the issue and not chat about dogs or page views or whatever else off-topic? Again, if you have any specific question or complaint let me know and I'll answer that. Speak for yourself and not on behalf of other people or what you think other people think.

[needlehost]

there you go again!
seriously, please do not patronise me.

[Peo]

That was not my intention and I aplogize if you took it that way.

Now seriously. Have you read hottweelz email to me? Is that nice? Professional? I shouldn't be answering this at all after after all the garbage he wrote. Talk about attitude. Again, if you have any questions I'll answer it.

[~GURU~]

Okay, i have a few questions(maybe remarks that lead to questions,

1. When i first came here to FWS in october last year, this was a great strict forum and everone seemed happy, ver few fusions it any at all, now it seems like things are just going way offline, be it hosting requests, or rules. May i ask why you allow people to come up with ridiculous requests? Why you let people post a lot of rubbish on the forum (as by the way does bring down the FWS ranking)

2. Could you please PM me (yes please) the full reason why NC was banned, this because i then get the story from two sides and can make my own conclusion of to what the whole story/comotion is.

3. Where the Hell is Jan? (if personal then leave it out)

4. Well with Bruce and Todd things are getting cleaned up a bit, but may i suggest a trash can where deleted threads get moved to and all may be read but not edited nor can anyone post there? this would really help in some cases cause when you following a thread and you wake up in the morning thinking to read what the others had to say and see andy improvements in the thread, it's gone, no where to be seen.

5. May i also suggest a warning system? like 3rd warning gets you banned for like 2 weeks or so? This way you clear the bad people out leaving just the good ones. I mean the report button will finally come handy :D.

If i think of more questions that need an answer that i can not derive myself then i will post them here.

NOTE: this is not meant as a "punch line" post, i would really like to know the answers to these questions.

Guru

[Craig]

May I ask why Net was banned?.

[needlehost]

thanks, but this issue still stems from you guys, we have spoken up before but nothing gets done! No wonder hottweelz is getting annoyed!

[sep]

I don't really care, I'm here for the spam.

[Robert]

There's a couple of things I'd like to say..

1. Peo does not, in anyway tell us mods what to do unless we are clearly abusing our mod powers. He's a great person and very understanding, but he has also worked very hard on this website and only wants the best. So if any member tells you anything negative about Peo, they are full of it. If Peo was anything like some members describe, trust me, I wouldn't be a mod!

2. When a member gets banned by a mod or an admin, that ban doesn't always 'stick' as mods and admins are fully aware of each and every member that gets ban and if that mod/admin feels that that member shouldn't be banned, we look at that members history and work out something. Further, a mod/admin just can't ban anyone for whatever reason we want. We have to give a legit reason and if that reason is good enough it can and normally is overturned.

3. Just because Peo is the owner doesn't mean what he says goes. Peo is a great person and very understanding and has trusted us with his forum and listens to us mods. He takes everything we say into consideration with respect and never makes any mods feel like they cannot express their opinions.

4. When you see a member that is banned, don't just assume that the member did nothing wrong. There are many deleted threads and private PMs that contribue to reason why the member was banned. No, we don't discuss why members are banned as it's not very productive.

5. I can't remember the last time I banned someone. I do a lot of 'behind the scenes' moderating. But trust me, if I ban someone it's because they broke the rules on more than one occasion.

6. I think it's time we install a more advance moderation tool that would allow admins/mods to have better control and make the job easier (so we can moderate quicker and actually remove problem causing members).

[Robert]

Okay, i have a few questions(maybe remarks that lead to questions,

1. When i first came here to FWS in october last year, this was a great strict forum and everone seemed happy, ver few fusions it any at all, now it seems like things are just going way offline, be it hosting requests, or rules. May i ask why you allow people to come up with ridiculous requests? Why you let people post a lot of rubbish on the forum (as by the way does bring down the FWS ranking)
Please report all threads/post you fel are rubbish and we'll look at it. Just because a thread/post you report doesn't get deleted, doesn't mean we didn't look at it.




2. Could you please PM me (yes please) the full reason why NC was banned, this because i then get the story from two sides and can make my own conclusion of to what the whole story/comotion is.
That would be counter productive.




3. Where the Hell is Jan? (if personal then leave it out)
Earth




4. Well with Bruce and Todd things are getting cleaned up a bit, but may i suggest a trash can where deleted threads get moved to and all may be read but not edited nor can anyone post there? this would really help in some cases cause when you following a thread and you wake up in the morning thinking to read what the others had to say and see andy improvements in the thread, it's gone, no where to be seen.
Currently there is a trash thread, but only for mods/admins to look at so we may see if a members ban was justified or not. You can always PM us if a thread is missing and maybe we can tell you why. We typically try to clean up threads instead of moving them.




5. May i also suggest a warning system? like 3rd warning gets you banned for like 2 weeks or so? This way you clear the bad people out leaving just the good ones. I mean the report button will finally come handy :D.
I agree.

[T^2]

I think that part of the problem is that the forum is understaffed and can't keep up with the work. So maybe if the forum had more "entry level" mods who couldn't ban someone per say but could delete/mod threads and stuff it would help a lot.

[Brandon]

No offense,
But what the ----

[sep]

I think that part of the problem is that the forum is understaffed and can't keep up with the work. So maybe if the forum had more "entry level" mods who couldn't ban someone per say but could delete/mod threads and stuff it would help a lot.
You can report posts, to help the process. Someone who cannot ban or edit post, etc is just a normal user!

[spiralfive]

Ok, I still don't understand why NC was banned :confused4 , but why is Peo banning everyone affiliated with RTG-Asia?

http://www.rtgasia.net/index.php/topic,1487.0.html

[heymrdj]

Ok, I still don't understand why NC was banned :confused4 , but why is Peo banning everyone affiliated with RTG-Asia?

http://www.rtgasia.net/index.php/topic,1487.0.html

Beats the crap outta me :confused4.

[T^2]

I get this feeling that the guy at http://www.rtgasia.net/index.php/topic,1487.0.html that has the username Peo is not really Peo because that Peo said that he would ban heymrdj and as far as i can tell heymrdj is still here.

[Bruce]

I get this feeling that the guy at http://www.rtgasia.net/index.php/topic,1487.0.html that has the username Peo is not really Peo because that Peo said that he would ban heymrdj and as far as i can tell heymrdj is still here.
It's not.

[spiralfive]

I get this feeling that the guy at http://www.rtgasia.net/index.php/topic,1487.0.html that has the username Peo is not really Peo because that Peo said that he would ban heymrdj and as far as i can tell heymrdj is still here.

I was thinking the same thing. The Peo on the other forum sounds like a little kid, whereas the Peo here is much more professional.

[heymrdj]

Lol this is becoming an escapade.

[DarkBlood]

Then that means it ain't Peo, didn't Bruce make it clear in The Longest Thread Ever? Also, Question Number 5 is already installed on vB 3.5.x and above, it's just the admins don't think the warning system is necessary, correct?

Also, if I have bad reputation, wouldn't the warning system kick in and not let me post anymore? :S Because at fmods.com their warning system takes your current permissions and chomps at them bit by bit... for example you may not be able to post after X amount of warnings... when that increases to Y amount... your PM ability is revoked until the warnings have been expired. Also, after Z amount of warnings, your login will be suspended until some warnings have expired.

You aren't banned in a sense, just have your rights removed bit by bit. Does this make any sense to you people?

[B-Z-M]

Then that means it ain't Peo, didn't Bruce make it clear in The Longest Thread Ever? Also, Question Number 5 is already installed on vB 3.5.x and above, it's just the admins don't think the warning system is necessary, correct?

Also, if I have bad reputation, wouldn't the warning system kick in and not let me post anymore? :S Because at fmods.com their warning system takes your current permissions and chomps at them bit by bit... for example you may not be able to post after X amount of warnings... when that increases to Y amount... your PM ability is revoked until the warnings have been expired. Also, after Z amount of warnings, your login will be suspended until some warnings have expired.

You aren't banned in a sense, just have your rights removed bit by bit. Does this make any sense to you people?
Why do you have a bad rep

[Peo]

I have not and will not post on their forum for very obvious reasons. Apparently they created an account with the username Peo to make me look bad. I requested that account and posts to be removed ASAP when I was notified about it, but it has not been removed yet. heymrdj has as you can see not been banned as claimed by them there. I'm back to sleep now.

[heymrdj]

I have not and will not post on their forum for very obvious reasons. Apparently they created an account with the username Peo to make me look bad. I requested that account and posts to be removed ASAP when I was notified about it, but it has not been removed yet. heymrdj has as you can see not been banned as claimed by them there. I'm back to sleep now.

Don't worry Peo, the slanderous posts will be removed. Its about time for Brendon to clock in. At that time they will be removed. Our other mod, jynet, is in her off hours right now. I knew it had to be someone different because 30 min. later I was still around.

[alley]

Please don't ban NC permanently. RTG hosting is a professional web host that offers a great reliable service .. unlike many of the flybynight hosts that post here all too frequently.

We need all the reliable web hosts we can get around these parts. They are a rare breed so to speak.

Thanks

[DarkBlood]

Why do you have a bad rep

http://iyeru42.zero-outpost.com/images/FWS-rep1.png

this image should explain it all. I had a green indicator for one reputation once, but it's not showing up anymore for some reason/

[Johnson]

You do know reps mean nothing, don't you?

[Jamson]

Honestly, i really enjoy this forum and would help out in any way i can if the admins need me.

[sep]

http://iyeru42.zero-outpost.com/images/FWS-rep1.png

this image should explain it all. I had a green indicator for one reputation once, but it's not showing up anymore for some reason/
Sorry about the "hi" bad rep. Must have been an accident, let me make it up to you.

[Craig]

Lets just show a little respect people, we all like FWS right?... now wouldn't it be best to keep this issue private?, Peo will answer you better if you send him a PM, I agree issues have to be sorted & they are being sorted but this isn't the way to do this.

Also, the person who used Peo's name on RTG.... well thats just disgraceful. I would expect a mod/admin to delete them posts ASAP. Most of the people's issues are with Jan & not Peo, its Peo's forum, he can do what he like's.

[~GURU~]

^^^^^^^

Agreed..

Although i haven't got an answer via PM from Peo yet, as i still wouldlike to hear the story from two sides...

[Peo]

This is getting way out of hand. Apparently they have still not removed the posts by account "Peo" and one of the moderators is openly threatening with a ddosattack against our server. I'll discuss the situation in private with Craig shortly. I think there might be ways to sort some of these problems out, but right now RTG are just making things worse.

[hottweelz]

This is getting way out of hand. Apparently they have still not removed the posts by account "Peo" and one of the moderators is openly threatening with a ddosattack against our server. I'll discuss the situation in private with Craig shortly. I think there might be ways to sort some of these problems out, but right now RTG are just making things worse.

I posted in that forum, this morning, that was a pathetic attempt at imitating "Peo" I've never seen Peo use a curse word yet.

But as far as my email that I sent to Peo, and made public? Who's worried about Professionalism? That was my opinionated Email For both Brendon and Peo to read... if you re-read my Email you'll see that I'm telling them to "just drop it... because X, Y, and Z"

Sorry, I don't live in Europe/Sweden/whatever the case maybe, where people are polite.

In reality, people speak the way they feel. Ammendment number 1 here in the U.S.

SO they can't be considered lies.

As far as professionalism goes... please.... This entire thread is about the lack of professionalism on FWS...

Raise your hand if Peo or any other Mod or Admin have EVER EVER EVER posted in a thread an answer to a concerned question... or an apology for ever doing wrong?

Craig, what's with your post? Did Peo ever publicly Apologize to you? Or do you take that with a "grain of salt" as well? Proud people demand apologies when they are done wrong... you are proud right?

[hottweelz]

You do know reps mean nothing, don't you?

That's exactly the reason why this forum has become how it is.

[hottweelz]

This is getting way out of hand. Apparently they have still not removed the posts by account "Peo" and one of the moderators is openly threatening with a ddosattack against our server. I'll discuss the situation in private with Craig shortly. I think there might be ways to sort some of these problems out, but right now RTG are just making things worse.

Craig?

Why Craig? WTF Does Craig have to do with RTG? If an actual employee over there is threatening your server YOU SPEAK TO ME!

AND ONLY ME! Craig? See the problem Peo? Do you really see the problem? Have fun talking to Craig?

You don't even know who is who and what goes on in your forum... And you wonder why we disrespect you?

[James]

I had come to learn the hard way to respect the forum admins and mods. I served a short ban once for a mod moving a thread making it look like I posted 2 ads in one week.

If Netcafe broke the rules, he broke the rules. Whats the fuss? Totally out of order to be ganging up here against the staff when a member gets punished for his own doings.

[Peo]

I wanted to discuss this whole situation with Craig first for the simple reason that both you and I have respect for him. I know that he has nothing to do with RTG. I'm willing to discuss this with you too, but I think you need to change your tone and clear some things up at that forum first.

[hottweelz]

I had come to learn the hard way to respect the forum admins and mods. I served a short ban once for a mod moving a thread making it look like I posted 2 ads in one week.

If Netcafe broke the rules, he broke the rules. Whats the fuss? Totally out of order to be ganging up here against the staff when a member gets punished for his own doings.

It's not about NC... this one isn't even my thread... anythink I say gets written off and locked because no one can be bothered to defend anything.

as for the NC banning issue... it may very well be a legitimate banning... they see two usernames with one IP address.... Peo was asked to investigate if the given IP was a proxy IP or a DHCP IP...

He'd rather not investigate it. In Peo's eyes... guilty until proven innocent.

Same exact thing can happen to you... will you be upset then?

As for Craig.. it seems he being banned and then the Ban being lifted since the Ban was in error.. is now a moot point... By letting Craig's "Ban" subject just dither into the woods, no one will actually acknowledge that a mistake was made and he never really shouldn't have been banned.

Craig doesn't even want the apology, apparently, not that Peo would EVER give one.

Peo's mods/admins never do wrong... how dare we say that it's possible?

It's like your own little Germany... cute isn't it?

I have yet to get banned, yet everyone is getting banned due to the fact that they have some relation to me. That's not hearsay, just ask Jan and Peo and use the search function..

Hell read, "Tree's" Signature... people are now literally paranoid on this forum...

Ironically, I'm still here. Not that I intend to be voluntarily, much longer.

[hottweelz]

I wanted to discuss this whole situation with Craig first for the simple reason that both you and I have respect for him. I know that he has nothing to do with RTG. I'm willing to discuss this with you too, but I think you need to change your tone and clear some things up at that forum first.

I did post over at that forum.. but you are indeed right, I forgot that I had mod access... I can delete them... shows you how active I am over there, LOL

[hottweelz]

I rock, I'm like, a "mod" cool.

I couldn't figure out how to delete with that software so I "modified"
http://www.rtgasia.net/index.php?topic=1487.new#new

[Tree]

I don't know if comparing FWS to Nazi Germany is such a great thing to do. But whatever, you're entitled to your use of methphors.

I'm still here, but that's only because I don't care about the forum politics.

[hottweelz]

I only care about the Politics because "Everyone and their mother" is somehow affiliated, linked, in cahoots, or any other silly synonym with ME...

As much as I feel guilty for that... at this point, if some dude says "Hi James" Jan or someone else is going to say "Oh, he must we with ChargerTek, let's go make life hard"

So it's crap, and anyone who does that, doesn't deserve my respect. Period.

I was told to "Adjust my attitude" yet I'm the one with the issues... what valueadd has been given at all? Nothing...

Telling someone that "Releasing a Ban reason... is counterproductive"

This entire forum is counterproductive...

Not one of you. Not one single person here, will ever get an answer to a question they ask.... The thread gets locked, deleted, moved, etc... and your answer will be "Not gonna happen" or "Not productive" or "None of your business"

So if you all like that... cool go for it... when it happens to you, cry to Peo as well so you can be told "I make the rules, my mods are God, blah blah blah"

It's all a joke.

[James]

I only care about the Politics because "Everyone and their mother" is somehow affiliated, linked, in cahoots, or any other silly synonym with ME...

As much as I feel guilty for that... at this point, if some dude says "Hi James" Jan or someone else is going to say "Oh, he must we with ChargerTek, let's go make life hard"

So it's crap, and anyone who does that, doesn't deserve my respect. Period.

I was told to "Adjust my attitude" yet I'm the one with the issues... what valueadd has been given at all? Nothing...

Telling someone that "Releasing a Ban reason... is counterproductive"

This entire forum is counterproductive...

Not one of you. Not one single person here, will ever get an answer to a question they ask.... The thread gets locked, deleted, moved, etc... and your answer will be "Not gonna happen" or "Not productive" or "None of your business"

So if you all like that... cool go for it... when it happens to you, cry to Peo as well so you can be told "I make the rules, my mods are God, blah blah blah"

It's all a joke.

I don't know why you think everything is evolved around yourself and Chargertek :lol:

I like this place, it's a place for all kinds of people, gurus, newbies and wanabees all alike.

If you don't like it, just don't visit for heaven's sake.

[T^2]

I don't really know the history between hottweelz and Peo but I don't think that Jan and Peo are going to hold such a strong grudge.

And as far as the RTG thing goes, read their thread and you'll realize that there are some nasty mods over there and if that's the kind of people representing that company then I feel really sorry for whoever conducts business with them.

[Craig]

Craig, what's with your post? Did Peo ever publicly Apologize to you? Or do you take that with a "grain of salt" as well? Proud people demand apologies when they are done wrong... you are proud right?

Peo hasnt done anything to me... never, Peo has my respect. I only have issues with Jan which I want to correct.

[hottweelz]

I don't know why you think everything is evolved around yourself and Chargertek :lol:



I am leaving, but use the search function, it IS about ChargerTek... search "Cahoots"

Peo will not deny that either. If he does, I'll just forward the PMs to you.

[needlehost]

Its not that, but hottweelz is a large business round here, if things are said or done it can damage them. several of the hosts seem to be getting pushed out in favour of resellerspanel hosts.

[needlehost]

I had come to learn the hard way to respect the forum admins and mods. I served a short ban once for a mod moving a thread making it look like I posted 2 ads in one week.

If Netcafe broke the rules, he broke the rules. Whats the fuss? Totally out of order to be ganging up here against the staff when a member gets punished for his own doings.
Netcafe is not the sole reason this is happening, its happening becuase of repeat occurences, they KEEP on happening, and every so often along comes a stunner (cahoots, netcafes banned ect...) that makes members open their eyes and think "wah?" and realise that everything is NOT allright.

[James]

Its not that, but hottweelz is a large business round here, if things are said or done it can damage them. several of the hosts seem to be getting pushed out in favour of resellerspanel hosts.

Things are said and done about everybody. Several hosts are getting pushed out? Favoured into what? Favoured by who? What exactly does this "favour" bring? That is a wrong way to put it and you arn't making any sense. All I can see from this thread is Netcafe is banned for constantly breaking forum rules. And a lot of insults were thrown at FWS staff, here and else where.

I don't see many resellerspanel hosts here.

[James]

, they KEEP on happening, and...

they KEEP breaking the rules? :lol:

[needlehost]

if your not going to take this seriously, please stay out of this, some people actually want something done.

[James]

if your not going to take this seriously, please stay out of this, some people actually want something done.

Insiders could argue, they have more to the story, but you can't - you are not really involved with this yourself are you?

This is not really a revolution-requiring issue from the looks of it.

Why?

This forum is not for hosts, but for those need hosting. So the hosts' needs on this forum are way way down on the list, in fact this forum does not need any hosts, it'd survive just fine without.

Strict and over-jealous mod tactics are the only way to control the number of desperate hosts here. It applies to everybody, whether it appear fair or unfair.

A host can only be grateful for the extra publicity and advertising one can get from this forum.

[needlehost]

Actually if all the decent hosts buggered off out of here (happening) then you would simply be left with resellers panel idiots and customers DO find out.
Lose the hosts you lose the people.

[James]

Disagree.

And since when did anybody start to classify hosts into "decent" and "idiots" groups? Who decides who is decent? There's a lot of holes in your argument.

Hosts come and go here all the time.

[hottweelz]

I think the point he's trying to make is: IF all you can get are crappy hosts from requesting at FWS... who's gonna come request after awhile?

[heymrdj]

I'm still sitting on the sidelines. If anyone needs me to explain something in a civilised cool-headed manner let me know :P.

[hottweelz]

Now the Mods are calling a few different phone lines...

Why are people afraid to post? Call me, PM me, Email me, everything is done in private.

It should all be Public. Show some stugots for Goodness Sakes.

[Peo]

We'll respond in time but it will be in private to those involved. I have other things to do right now, so it will have to wait a couple of more hours until I pm/email you hottweelz. I'm sorry about this delay.

[hottweelz]

We'll respond in time but it will be in private to those involved. I have other things to do right now, so it will have to wait a couple of more hours until I pm/email you hottweelz. I'm sorry about this delay.

Well if your boys want to call, tell them to at least leave a message.

[heymrdj]

I'm posting! I have stugots! (whatever the heck those things are). Take your time Peo :).

[needlehost]

I think he means bollocks;)

[Tree]

Wow, am I the only one here who doesn't have an issue with any of the mods?

[needlehost]

yes, yes you are:P

[hottweelz]

Wow, am I the only one here who doesn't have an issue with any of the mods?

For now. I won't be here to see though... curious as to how many follow, if any.

[James]

I don't have an issue with them at present.

[hottweelz]

Unless I get banned, I'll be trolling, as friends (I've made from FWS) tend to PM me here, two or three customers as well I believe.

[Tree]

I just can't find a real story of what's gone on. Everything I read seems slanted in some direction.

[hottweelz]

I just can't find a real story of what's gone on. Everything I read seems slanted in some direction.

Half the problem is, the admins/mods are witholding the story, you don't deserve to know ...apparently.

[Evolution Hosts]

Wow, am I the only one here who doesn't have an issue with any of the mods?

I dont, but then again i am new and still reading around the forum.:-)

[Tree]

Half the problem is, the admins/mods are witholding the story, you don't deserve to know ...apparently.
I was there when it all went down. So is the only problem that Jan won't apologize for saying "cahoots?" And the measons for saying that?

Otherwise, I have no idea...

[heymrdj]

I don't have many problems with the mods either. I disagree with a banning Jan gave me once. It was a discrepancy on one hour in time zones and I would have gladly removed it had I known I was one hour too quick. But oh well whats done is done.

[hottweelz]

I was there when it all went down. So is the only problem that Jan won't apologize for saying "cahoots?" And the measons for saying that?

Otherwise, I have no idea...

Wasn't that like March?

[needlehost]

theres more, theres more. but those who know cannot say becuase things are running deaper and do not want to get caught up.

[Robert]

It's not about NC... this one isn't even my thread... anythink I say gets written off and locked because no one can be bothered to defend anything.

as for the NC banning issue... it may very well be a legitimate banning... they see two usernames with one IP address.... Peo was asked to investigate if the given IP was a proxy IP or a DHCP IP...

He'd rather not investigate it. In Peo's eyes... guilty until proven innocent.

Same exact thing can happen to you... will you be upset then?

As for Craig.. it seems he being banned and then the Ban being lifted since the Ban was in error.. is now a moot point... By letting Craig's "Ban" subject just dither into the woods, no one will actually acknowledge that a mistake was made and he never really shouldn't have been banned.

Craig doesn't even want the apology, apparently, not that Peo would EVER give one.

Peo's mods/admins never do wrong... how dare we say that it's possible?

It's like your own little Germany... cute isn't it?

I have yet to get banned, yet everyone is getting banned due to the fact that they have some relation to me. That's not hearsay, just ask Jan and Peo and use the search function..

Hell read, "Tree's" Signature... people are now literally paranoid on this forum...

Ironically, I'm still here. Not that I intend to be voluntarily, much longer.

Your lack of respect for Peo and any of the mods is unbelieveable. You have this wrong idea that you have some God given right on this forum? You don't. This is a private forum, this is a private website. I don't know where you come off thinking that you can sit there and accuse the mods/admins of something that is simply untrue.

Further, you have this weird idea that we owe YOU any explanation. I could ban you today and wouldn't have to give you a reason. Again, this falls under the "this is a private forum".

You can talk all the crap you want (and apparently you are), but everything you have said is incorrect. Peo runs this forum like a democracy, all mods/admins get their opinion heard and members do too.

You do not know all the details regarding anyones ban. There are numerous PMs, emails, in some cases DDOS attacks, etc that lead up to the result of a person or persons getting banned.

I like to consider myself a neutral mod. I really never had any conflicts with any members, but I'm sick and tired of seeing certain members post rumors and untrue stories. Again, a ban is a ban and as long as this forum has existed (8+ years), we do NOT discuss why a member is banned.

If this forum is so bad as you try to play it out to be, THEN LEAVE.

[hottweelz]

Your lack of respect for Peo and any of the mods is unbelieveable. You have this wrong idea that you have some God given right on this forum? You don't. This is a private forum, this is a private website. I don't know where you come off thinking that you can sit there and accuse the mods/admins of something that is simply untrue.

Further, you have this weird idea that we owe YOU any explanation. I could ban you today and wouldn't have to give you a reason. Again, this falls under the "this is a private forum".

You can talk all the crap you want (and apparently you are), but everything you have said is incorrect. Peo runs this forum like a democracy, all mods/admins get their opinion heard and members do too.

You do not know all the details regarding anyones ban. There are numerous PMs, emails, in some cases DDOS attacks, etc that lead up to the result of a person or persons getting banned.

I like to consider myself a neutral mod. I really never had any conflicts with any members, but I'm sick and tired of seeing certain members post rumors and untrue stories. Again, a ban is a ban and as long as this forum has existed (8+ years), we do NOT discuss why a member is banned.

If this forum is so bad as you try to play it out to be, THEN LEAVE.

So do it. Go for it. Do it.

Apprently I know things that you DON'T know as well. Can you read emails? Are you allowed to ban for a secretive reason?

If you ban someone for duplicate login names and find out the IP listed was a public IP and therefore a mistake, were you wrong? or still right?

If you ban someone for thinking they posted two ads in 7 days, and found out YOUR math was off by a day, are you wrong? Or still right?

Or does it not matter? "Lack of respect for Peo and Mods"

Thanks for re-assuring everyone that you are the Boss and we have no rights.

Ban me... if you can. Do it. Run it by Peo and BAN ME.

[Robert]

So do it. Go for it. Do it.

Your time will come.




Apprently I know things that you DON'T know as well. Can you read emails? Are you allowed to ban for a secretive reason?

We have secret forums for mods/admins where everything is posted and talked about. Any conflicts Peo has with members, he posts the email so we know the situation and may provide him with feedback and assist him.

Secretive to whom? To other members? Again, we don't discuss why members get banned, so yes, it's secretive.




If you ban someone for duplicate login names and find out the IP listed was a public IP and therefore a mistake, were you wrong? or still right?

If I ban someone in error, then that's what it was, an error. Mods make mistakes too. But we typically don't ban with our eyes close, we actually research the situation.



If you ban someone for thinking they posted two ads in 7 days, and found out YOUR math was off by a day, are you wrong? Or still right?

Again, if I ban someone in error, then that's what it was, an error.



Or does it not matter? "Lack of respect for Peo and Mods"

Thanks for re-assuring everyone that you are the Boss and we have no rights.

The only person thus far who has lack of respect is you. You're conducting yourself in a very unprofessional manner.




Ban me... if you can. Do it. Run it by Peo and BAN ME.

Your time is near.

[hottweelz]

Your time will come.



Why not now? Issue? Or is that secret?

[Robert]

Why not now? Issue? Or is that secret?

You getting ban won't be a secret, it'll be obvious. As to why I won't ban you yet, well I want Peo to be able to respond to any of your ridiculous comments and for you to be able to entertain us further with your ridiculous answers.

[hottweelz]

You getting ban won't be a secret, it'll be obvious. As to why I won't ban you yet, well I want Peo to be able to respond to any of your ridiculous comments and for you to be able to entertain us further with your ridiculous answers.

You love your job? Is it free? This wasn't even my thread. You can ban me, go ahead... I speak to Peo regularly via Email... please... be my guest.

Press that little button in modcp. If my ramblings were that ridiculous and hold no merit, why won't Peo just ban me? Hmm.

[James]

Hot wheels on :D Hottweelz,

Congrats on becoming a moderator on --------------.com

Where "proffesionals" meet to talk!

*humour*

[hottweelz]

Hot wheels on :D Hottweelz,

Congrats on becoming a moderator on --------------.com (http://--------------.com)

Where "proffesionals" meet to talk!

*humour*

Really? Dam, I just got told about that site early this morning! Maybe I can ban people *cheap humour*

**EDIT** I just went back and thanked them... never got the notification though.

[B-Z-M]

James the banner add was done by our designer. i am contacting him now. Hottweelz did not add the 2 ff's in professional.

[hottweelz]

James the banner add was done by our designer. i am contacting him now. Hottweelz did not add the 2 ff's in professional.

Awesome... I spelt ChargerTek wrong once in an ad... a user pointed it out. They were going to chargetek.com

[James]

Send your banner designer to school :lol:

Just couldn't stop laughing when I saw that.. I'm still laughing. Professionals talking proffesional!

Yes I know WHM, thanks for the notice. I just couldn't resist.

[hottweelz]

Send your banner designer to school :lol:

Just couldn't stop laughing when I saw that.. I'm still laughing. Professionals talking proffesional!

Yes I know WHM, thanks for the notice. I just couldn't resist.

Let's no go off topic (Great find though namesake)

Bobby? Pressing that little button, or do we not make decisions while Peo is sleeping?

Bobby.. next time you call from Kendall, FL, Leave a voicemail. k?

[B-Z-M]

James not trying to start anything but it is not uncommon to hold down a key on the computer for too long to make 2 letters come out instead of one. I again apologize for my designer's mistake. An email has been sent to him.

[heymrdj]

Will you and Robert take a chill pill. For goodness sake now wonder nothing every gets done. Two hot headed men just equals a bunch of bad gas :P.

[hottweelz]

...You have this wrong idea that you have some God given right on this forum? You don't. This is a private forum, this is a private website. ....
.... I could ban you today and wouldn't have to give you a reason. Again, this falls under the "this is a private forum".


You heard it here first.

This is how the Mods act. Actually Robert is on his best behaviour today. And only two prank phone calls....

Jan would set me straight a hell of a lot shorter and meaner... without making a mockery of the forum she works for... at she has a brain in her head to NOT embarass Peo while representing him as such...

Where is Jan anyway??? Maybe Craig knows? No one else seems to...

Well I'm not banned, so in about 5 minutes, I have some errands to run for customers... (I'm one of those hosts you actually get to meet face to face) and I'll check later tonight to see if I'm banned....