Will the ASIA users ever stop signing up? [Archive]

tshark

May 27th, 2006, 03:30

My hosting company is mainly supporting USA websites only, but I find that I constantly am denying accounts that have the area code: +86 as their contact info. It's starting to be a pain in the neck. I already banned all the ASIA ip ranges I could find from accessing my company, but I still am getting some. I was wondering if anyone else is facing the same problem as me. Thanks for any input.

- Todd

xiaojun24

May 27th, 2006, 04:04

Most of instant activation freehosting has same issue with you.
Ipban actually does not be much help. proxy is common in china.
english only does not much help too.
uploading simple english index pages and redirect to main other site is common too.
this will be better in a year or two as the economy of china grows more and more.

Jan

May 27th, 2006, 06:50

Do you have in your TOS that only specific countries can join? Or is it based on English language only sites?

Richard

May 27th, 2006, 07:01

Do you have in your TOS that only specific countries can join? Or is it based on English language only sites?

It does not help at all.

James

May 27th, 2006, 07:34

Kwek

May 27th, 2006, 08:20

Well I am Asian, Singapoean, and why do you wanna ban us?!:P

Lol, seriously, I do speak English. Dont ban Asia, since Asia is not chinese-only.

xd3vilx

May 27th, 2006, 10:22

Seriously, Asia doesn't mean Chinese...i get offended by such remark...my pal here speak more than just chinese...some even know French etc...

Jovial

May 27th, 2006, 11:24

well most of my classmates knows many european languages and some speak english better than british people

Richard

May 27th, 2006, 11:41

well most of my classmates knows many european languages and some speak english better than british people

Yeah... Ok then :P Carry on smoking that pot.

tshark

May 27th, 2006, 12:50

Im banning Asia, because my advertisers only will pay us for USA customers. And most botnets that try and sign up hundreds of accounts come from Asia. I have nothing against asians, its just our advertisers will overlook all of you. Also, yes it is in our TOS. It has nothing to do with what language you speak, it has to do with where our advertisers see our users are coming from.

tumble

May 27th, 2006, 14:13

I myself do not host non-english sites just for the reason i cannopt drift thru them to see if they are doing anything against the law. Granted i do host 2 asia sites. One being a car club in singapore and another being a personal blog.

I do not have instant activation so i do not get flooded with request.

China has a huge market and as was stated thier economy is growing. They just need to get thier own "free hosting" industry up and going.

cnhacker

May 27th, 2006, 20:24

Dan

May 27th, 2006, 20:31

Look,

What we do is specify that we only allow European Languages and English on our services. We also demand that anyone wishing to receive free hosting from us, must post their application on our forums. That way, they must fill in information we look for, such as their location, site language etc. We do get a few Chinese Languages sites trying their luck and quite often we get suspicious about others, so, we check them out before giving them anything.

tumble

May 27th, 2006, 20:54

interesting thread on this issue can be found here:
http://www.freewebhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=1552&page=1&pp=10

uglycn

May 28th, 2006, 00:53

all asia? how many japanese use your hosts?
france and german is not same country. It's nonsense.
similar face but, totally different country system. democracy vs communism.

tshark

May 28th, 2006, 02:46

wtf??
I cant find TOS about english only or whatever in your site.
where is your TOS?

is it? there is no language restriction in there.
http://www.synced.org/modernbill/order/template/wizard/includes/AUP.html

Cnhacker you can find it here (the link is on our main page):
http://www.synced.org/modernbill/order/template/wizard/includes/AUP.html

I made an error, I meant to say we only allow North American users because of our advertisers , so please dont get bent out of shape over all of this and accusing me of being prejudice. And uglycn, your post has no relevancy to this entire thread, it doesnt even make any sense.

cybermilitia

May 30th, 2006, 13:44

well most of my classmates knows many european languages and some speak english better than british people
Yeah... Ok then :P Carry on smoking that pot.
And just what might be the intended implication behind that remark?

Let me ask you - how do we judge the quality of spoken English ?
By the accent ? By the skin colour and facial features of the speaker ?
Or by the words that they speak ?

Do you know that the curriculum for English language being taught in many Asian countries is at par with that of native English countries ?
What makes you think that an Asian person speaking better English than a native English speaker can only appear plausible to a pot-smoker ?

Seriously, Asia doesn't mean Chinese...i get offended by such remark...my pal here speak more than just chinese...some even know French etc...
So very true. China only makes up a third of the total population of Asia.
India, with a population about as big as that of China, is also an Asian country - but not many people seem to know that :P

niyogi

June 2nd, 2006, 21:21

The thing with the Chinese wanting free hosting and it being problematic is that some of these Chinese customers are legitimately looking for hosting. They are looking for an outlet to express themselves (without having to spend).

To counter this however, there are the plain fraudulent Chinese sign-ups that you have to worry about. The issue with signing *any* of them up is that these turn out to be "empty" visitors as far as Google AdSense goes (if you use this as your main revenue source). You can expect your account to be suspended if Google believes your site to essentially promote click fraud in some way or another.

Roj

>Jake<

June 9th, 2006, 14:44

Yeah... Ok then :P Carry on smoking that pot.

Actually, this is a proven fact that non-english people who can speak fluent english do speak better english than the english, and yes i am english

fireshark

June 10th, 2006, 22:51

You can't really prove that. "Better" is a very opinion loaded word...

mikexyz

June 17th, 2006, 20:33

Just to say that also had the same problem when i open my free hosting website, asian users just didn't stop creating and creating accounts!!!

What i have done?

1) First put on red and big the coutries and languages that i allowed -> What happen? NOTHING

2) I used one script to block some countries but it was not 100% because of the proxy usage and because the ip-ranges database was free and it is not completed. -> What Happen? a few less registrations

3) It was enough, i create a paid plan, and the free plan is now only activated manually!

This was impossible!

A1Owner

June 17th, 2006, 23:16

It does not help at all.
One way to stop proxy is to use ssl on the site it will auto ban most proxy users.:classic2:

Brandon

June 19th, 2006, 21:44

I accept asian sites to a degree, however, I use a combination of friends and scripts to find chinese sites that violate my ToS.

jiehao85

June 20th, 2006, 04:28

Kinda racist but why can't a asian do a websites catered towards the US market? I am from Singapore but several of my websites' traffic are 80% US at least.

Mustang

June 20th, 2006, 11:48

Kinda racist but why can't a asian do a websites catered towards the US market? I am from Singapore but several of my websites' traffic are 80% US at least.

I agree to your point of view too, not all Asians are equally bad and they deserve to be treated the same way as those in the US. We can't judge the entire Asian population just by a minority of bad "eggs".

X3r0X

June 20th, 2006, 17:00

Fact is, if they (or anyone) come into my forums and say "Me wish free hosting very much thanks be to you chris byebye" then I won't give it to them. Ever.

Richard

June 20th, 2006, 17:46

I'm British, we talk the talk, and are the only one's that can call ourselves the true owners of the English Language. And do you think Chinese people, or French people can speak English as well as a British person? No way, and the reason is not because of skin color or appearance, it's because of vowels.

PS; Don’t worry, I’ll call Microsoft up and let them know there is no such thing as “US English” :P

jiehao85

June 20th, 2006, 19:18

I just read an article on the newspaper recently that stated even British from different parts of England have different slangs so does that means only the Queen is speaking the true English? Languages evolve and it's an ongoing process after all.

Anyway, it's up to the threadstarter to decide but it will help if you have a TOS or just block out users from China since they are generally the crowd the cause more issues. Putting a list of allowed countries will help too.

ddt

June 21st, 2006, 11:29

Sorry to hear that.

ddt

June 21st, 2006, 11:54

all asia? how many japanese use your hosts?
france and german is not same country. It's nonsense.
similar face but, totally different country system. democracy vs communism.i think your id shoud be "uglyjp"

GamePhreak

June 21st, 2006, 11:56

i think your id shoud be "uglyjp"
junk
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prostitute
a s s
nasty
evil
scamp
excrement
I really don't see why you would call somebody "excrement" just because they said China was red? They are after all...

ddt

June 21st, 2006, 12:01

I really don't see why you would call somebody "excrement" just because they said China was red? They are after all...
sorry, i was mad

Fabreeze!

June 21st, 2006, 19:46

And just what might be the intended implication behind that remark?

Let me ask you - how do we judge the quality of spoken English ?
By the accent ? By the skin colour and facial features of the speaker ?
Or by the words that they speak ?

Do you know that the curriculum for English language being taught in many Asian countries is at par with that of native English countries ?
What makes you think that an Asian person speaking better English than a native English speaker can only appear plausible to a pot-smoker ?

English would most likely be their second language. Which means they would mostly only use it when learning the subject, they wouldn't use it at home, they wouldn't use it while shopping, they wouldn't use it when they were hanging with their mates.

While it may not apply to everyone learning english it would apply to most.
And honestly... most people who are fluent in english can pretty much decipher most of the crap that the non fluent english people write.

Do you know that the curriculum for English language being taught in many Asian countries is at par with that of native English countries ?

I'm going to assume you've had first hand experience of those teaching cultures.... Otherwise your opinion is just that! an opinion!

xd3vilx

June 22nd, 2006, 04:42

English would most likely be their second language. Which means they would mostly only use it when learning the subject, they wouldn't use it at home, they wouldn't use it while shopping, they wouldn't use it when they were hanging with their mates.

You are wrong, there is a reserve case in Singapore, many use English while shopping, while ordering food etc...In fact, more and more young generation are losing touch of our mother tougue, Chinese.

jiehao85

June 22nd, 2006, 21:34

Not that many in my opinion. It depends on which crowd you belong to. I speak Mandarin at home, at work but I have no problem switching to English if need be. English is supposed to be my first language but it's actually 2nd language to me. :P