Ripped off my site [Archive] - FreeWebspace.net

serverorigin

August 13th, 2006, 15:18

Guy ripped our site - [justahost.co.uk]
https://awbs.justahost.net/

Then goes to webhostingtalk.com and tries to say we stole his! We have copyright protection that we bought through godaddy after we built the site but the question is, what do we do? How do we approach this? I mean he is trying to DEGRADE us!?

Think its so screwd up how someone can even go to my datacenter and say I am in violation lol. Wtf ...anyone have any ideas?

Funniest part is he was even on webhostingtalk a while back buying templates.. /sigh

LSComputers

August 13th, 2006, 15:23

If you have the copyright papers, etc then your fine, let them complain you have proof its yours.

serverorigin

August 13th, 2006, 15:29

Yeah but the worst thing is it is possible it may give me a bad reputation for something we haven't done which is the worst part of it.

T^2

August 13th, 2006, 16:25

Yeah but the worst thing is it is possible it may give me a bad reputation for something we haven't done which is the worst part of it.

If you didn't do it then why would you be getting a bad rep? Don't worry about the possibility of getting a bad rep, as long as you didn't do something to deserve it then you'll most likely be fine.

And maybe he just bought the template from somebody? Is that template 100% custom made? You should talk to the designer as well about it.

serverorigin

August 13th, 2006, 16:28

Actually the style is custom built but the photos are just stock. Friend of mine actually did the logos.... Oh well Staminus data center didn't step into it which is good but the guy is even calling them. Just psycho, also the issue is I am in the US and he is in the UK. I doubt I can even persue him.

Chris L.

August 13th, 2006, 16:36

You may be able to sue him for Libel

AvailNetworks

August 13th, 2006, 17:14

with all the templates around I still do not understand why on earth someone would rip another site. hopefully he gets whats coming to him

here is another lovely example of a highly inspired site design

www.galaxy-solutions.net
www.softlayer.com

MaT22

August 13th, 2006, 17:15

if it really is copyright you can sue them. rofl but seriously look at the prices:

Disk Space 250Mb 1 month £9.95 That is $20 per month for 250Mb thats a rip off

Richard

August 13th, 2006, 18:09

AvailNetworks

August 13th, 2006, 20:13

what do you mean the style was for sale? they did their design in house

T^2

August 13th, 2006, 20:34

webguru72

August 13th, 2006, 21:09

He is not even on google.... I checked the cache and it was your site....

James

August 14th, 2006, 06:04

If you are going to hire a designer, hire a good one :lol:

AvailNetworks

August 14th, 2006, 07:18

www.galaxy-solutions.net and www.softlayer.com aren't EXACTLY the same. I mean he could argue that it's not in violation of any thing.

But yea..I know what you mean avail.

People should just get custom designs..its not that expensive if you know a good designer.

that is just too close for comfort if it were my design. I mean come on.....the icons are exactly the same, header and footer are 99.9% the same.

for someone who has been here that long and with that many posts, he really should know better

influct

August 14th, 2006, 07:22

Thats too close, theres taking INSPERATION from others designs, lots of designers do that, then theres that:P
thats "heavily inspired" ;) if you know what i mean.

Richard

August 14th, 2006, 14:02

that is just too close for comfort if it were my design. I mean come on.....the icons are exactly the same, header and footer are 99.9% the same.

for someone who has been here that long and with that many posts, he really should know better

As stated, we had a designer design the template for us, we had no idea it was connected to anyone else, I’m contacting the designer in question (Who was recommended to me by an outstanding member of the FWS community who has allot more posts and respect than I have in these parts) but he appears to not be answering my emails or phone calls.

As stated, we had no idea this design was a rip until yesterday, when it was pointed out to use on WHT, it was more of a shock to us than to you, let me reassure you of that!

Volt.Networks

August 14th, 2006, 18:42

@ecsportal - maybe it would help to say you have the PSD and show the copyright papers.

If you have proof the guy ripped your site, report it to the mods of WHT, I'm sure they can remove those accusations.

Jan

August 17th, 2006, 23:53

Google cache indicates Ryan has had that design since at least April 1 (which is before you joined FWS, WHT and HHO)

This is G o o g l e's cache of http://awbs.justahost.net/index.php?aid=pin18998 as retrieved on 1 Apr 2006 14:45:11 GMT.
G o o g l e's cache is the snapshot that we took of the page as we crawled the web.
The page may have changed since that time. Click here for the current page without highlighting.
This cached page may reference images which are no longer available. Click here for the cached text only.
To link to or bookmark this page, use the following url: http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:RZuOVP2HNfgJ:awbs.justahost.net/index.php%3Faid%3Dpin18998+justahost&hl=en&gl=au&ct=clnk&cd=31

serverorigin

August 19th, 2006, 00:16

bleh that doesn't mean anything. Google has it cached for me too. Fact is, we never advertised on boards so we weren't registered. Whether I was here or WHT or HHO has nothing to do with whether I have/was been in the hosting business. We had this design since '05. Search waybackmachine.org and you can see we have been in business longer than since we registered and definitely longer than Ryan who just "acquired" justahost last year as per his posts on WHT.

AvailNetworks

August 19th, 2006, 01:17

you guys both need a new design anyway. take it as a sign

serverorigin

August 19th, 2006, 03:34

Well we had since changed our site due to his unresponsiveness. We figure if he wanted it bad enough to steal it and use the fact that he is in the UK to get around our copyrights then he is more than welcome to it. We will build a new design

GamePhreak

August 19th, 2006, 04:00

US copyrights are recognized by the UK... That's not a workaround. If you could prove that it was yours or that you had it first, then you could have had every right to sue him. If it's worth it that much to you, anyway...

Jan

August 19th, 2006, 08:12

Search waybackmachine.org and you can see we have been in business longer than since we registered and definitely longer than Ryan who just "acquired" justahost last year as per his posts on WHT.
Domain: justahost.net
Cache Date: 2003-11-10
Registrar: ENOM, INC.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Registration Service Provided By: Worldwide Property Search Ltd.
Contact: info@scotreg.com

Domain name: justahost.net

Registrant Info:
Just A Host
Ryan Carbin (domains@justahost.co.uk)
+44.07980994228
FAX: +44.08701215917
Private Address
Glos, Postcode
UK

From whois history.

Looking at the last thumbnail update at http://whois.domaintools.com/justahost.net (as I write this -Thumbnail: 2006-01-25)

serverorigin

August 19th, 2006, 18:45

Yeah,
We sent him a cease and desist notice as well as the copyright papers etc. Problem is though is the cost involved in trying to fight an issue like this across foreign borders. /shrug

Volt.Networks

August 20th, 2006, 12:05

You can try to scare him by saying you will sue him I suppose..... and see how he reacts.... lol

GamePhreak

August 20th, 2006, 14:30

A cease and desist is usually close enough.

ephekt

August 20th, 2006, 17:31

I think the owner of this post does not know what he purchased. If he purchased legal rights to a design, and through godaddy at that, why is he asking for support here on a forum? owner: contact godaddy. They will handle your claim with a serious face.

CollarHosting

August 20th, 2006, 18:16

It doesn't look like a very large site I think you could get away with just scaring them with legal emails

serverorigin

August 20th, 2006, 18:56

ephekt: I dont think you even understand the thread heh...

Godaddy just handled the copyright paperwork. Nothing to do with my site.

ced

August 20th, 2006, 21:25

lol
justahost.co.uk

Error 403

serverorigin

August 20th, 2006, 22:43

nice heh

nickbj

August 21st, 2006, 05:01

I'd be inclined to place a notice on your site home page declaring that there is an imposter copying your site, and warning your visitors not to confuse yours with his... But be careful with how you word it, even if you think he's a jerk - be polite, show your manners, and stay safe from litigation.
My two-pen'north, for what its worth...
Nick.

Jan

August 21st, 2006, 06:34

I think a few of you are not looking at all the inconsistancies to this little saga. Read all the thread, not just the first post :)

Richard

August 21st, 2006, 09:56

I think a few of you are not looking at all the inconsistancies to this little saga. Read all the thread, not just the first post :)

People see only what they want to see :P

justahost

August 25th, 2006, 08:26

I think a few of you are not looking at all the inconsistancies to this little saga. Read all the thread, not just the first post :)

Jan.

May I thank you for trying t oput my point across in this forum.
I have just returned from a weeks honeymoon and get faced with an email tipping me off to this delightful post.

I have been through this time and time again with Mr Hatfield across HHO, WHT, private messages and emails, as such I will not bore people with the whole farce again.

Kev, give it up man!

Anyway, like I said - just back from my honeymoon, still on a high and cannot be doing wit hthis saga again.

I have put my points across. if everyone thinks I am a thieving jerk (nice wording from some people who do not even know me, thanks for that :)), so be it but please don't lose sleep over it - I know I won't be.

Again, Jan - thanks very much for putting some valid points forward!

Have fun,

Ryan (the thieving jerk from Just A Host)

ezXEN

August 25th, 2006, 16:23

I would just like to clarify a couple of things here, other then the header and the catagorization of the index page, all you are using is the generic AWBS Template so to justify both ends, it is neither something custom made, nor something special. So i do not see how you can copyright a basic template that comes with your backend software?

Craig

August 25th, 2006, 16:30

Isn't it time to close this?

As Hosting-Shack said, people will believe what they want to believe weather its the truth or not.

midwesthosting

September 5th, 2006, 04:27

If it was Ripped Then Why Did You Change The Site And Not The Other Guy?
http://www.justahost.info/wpblog/?p=30 < Read This lol

serverorigin

September 5th, 2006, 06:48

I think it is getting a little old. Fact is people will believe what they want and it seems Jan has a different idea of how things went as well. Nice to know you have moderators on your side. Thanks Jan :cry2:

Either way, me nor my employees have time for this childish crap. Believe me, believe him, I really don't care. We have a solid reputation and jealousy can certainly bring the worst from people. Think what you want, I am not going to lose any sleep over it either way.

And your valid points...the thumbnail was 08-22-06. His registry date doesn't mean anything. Try searching WHT and see where he was buying / selling templates a few months back. Check the spot where he mentioned buying Just-a-host from someplace else etc etc. My registration dates on the boards mean we were not active on the boards. So?

Dan

September 5th, 2006, 07:37

It's this simple.

If he has stolen your template, and you have copyright papers to prove it is yours, then you have every right to pursue it, no matter what country he is in.

If he did not steal your design, then stop the whinging and get on with supplying good hosting.

Just my 2 bits.

serverorigin

September 5th, 2006, 08:16

Fact is this has been covered on every board. He did, it is copyrighted and there were cease and desist papers sent to him as well as emails. He would not comply, we are not going to go chasing someone half way around the world over a copyright infringement and a few hundred dollar investment. We changed our site and moved on.

Dan

September 5th, 2006, 10:57