View Full Version : Mysteries Demolitions - The Truth about the 9/11 WTC Tower "Collapses"
Dean
September 20th, 2006, 20:53
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=Mysteries+Demolitions
"Excellent. The best of the 9/11 movies." --David Ray Griffin, author of The New Pearl Harbor
"WOW! is my reaction to this movie. Great insight into demolitions and what really happened on 9/11/2001." --Steven E. Jones, physics professor, Brigham Young University
"An outstanding contribution to understanding 9/11. Simply superb." --James H. Fetzer, founder, Scholars for 911 Truth
90 minutes of pure demolition evidence and analysis, laced with staggering witness testimonials. Moving from "the myth" through "the analysis" and into "the players," careful deconstruction of the official story set right alongside clean, clear science. The 9/11 picture is not one of politics or nationalism or loyalty, but one of strict and simple physics. How do you get a 10-second 110-story pancake collapse?
A movie that might actually reach our complacent mainstream. No agenda. No finger-pointing. Just the facts and the "mysteries." Look at that. Think about this. A story of people: Willie Rodriguez's strange recollection of noises on the 34th floor. Who was up there, bumping around? Scott Forbes' similar story, weeks before the towers fell. A story of blasting itself. Here's how shaped charges slice through steel beams to control the way they fall.
You must watch this video for the truth of 9/11. Its 90 minutes, but every minute is worth it. Using the footage you've seen 1 million times before; discover the major "give-aways". It's SO worth it.
Some facts about 9/11:
No steel-framed building before or since 9/11 has ever collapsed due to fire.
No official agency (FAA, FBI, or the airlines) has ever released a list of the 9/11 passengers. But within hours, the FBI released a list of the hijackers.
Multiple air-defense drills were planned for the morning of 9/11. These exercises left only two fighter jets available to protect the entire Northeastern United States.
Building 7, a 47-story skyscraper and part of the World Trade Center complex, was not struck by a plane but collapsed in 6.5 seconds at 5:20 p.m. on September 11th, in the exact manner of a controlled demolition.
There was no visible airplane debris where Flight 93 supposedly crashed in
Pennsylvania * only a smoking hole in the ground, much like a bomb crater.
Office fires burn at low temperatures of 600-800 dF. Jet fuel is an ordinary
hydrocarbon; its maximal burning temperature is 1200 dF in open air. Steel melts at 2750 d F. Neither jet fuel nor the burning contents of the buildings could cause the towers' steel structure to buckle or fail.
Tests have shown that cell-phone calls cannot be made at altitudes over 4000 to 8000 feet, as cell towers are located on the ground. Airplanes fly at 30,000 feet and above. No passenger could have called for help on a cell phone from an airborne plane on 9/11.
9/11 was immediately declared an "act of war" by President Bush. The rubble from the Twin Towers' collapse was carted away and the steel sold and shipped overseas without examination.
Enormous profits were made by insiders on plummeting stock prices of the two airlines involved in 9/11 * American and United. Federal law protects their identities.
Accepting victims' compensation barred 9/11 families from further discovery through litigation.
Watch it; you won't regret. (http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=Mysteries+Demolitions)
utcrazy
September 20th, 2006, 21:19
That's lame, stop spreading ---- and putting down the lives of thousands of people who died. I'm Canadian and can still agree these conspiracies are horse ----. I don't care what some nut can put together and find ways how things are flawed. Listen to all you ----ers The U.S. never claimed people sucessfully called on the plane, its just a myth. However cell phones can get a signal, my proof? my cell phone has an airplane mode where it turns off recieving a signal.
No steel-framed building before or since 9/11 has ever collapsed due to fire. Come again? It wasn't a fire idiot! A plane flying into a building is hardly comparable to someone lighting a match against a piece fo paper.
1. 9/11 did happen and was a tragedy
2. Americans did land on the moon legit
3. The holocaust did happen
Dean
September 20th, 2006, 21:40
Didn't you see the report? It said the things fell down cause of fire!
WTC 1+2 was built for a impact from a jet.
WTC 7 wasn't hit by a jet. It still fell down. :(
GamePhreak
September 20th, 2006, 21:46
No steel-framed building before or since 9/11 has ever collapsed due to fire.
Ditto utcrazy
No official agency (FAA, FBI, or the airlines) has ever released a list of the 9/11 passengers. But within hours, the FBI released a list of the hijackers.
It's a hell of a lot tougher to get grieving families to sign off on that than it is to release names of suicidal criminals.
Multiple air-defense drills were planned for the morning of 9/11. These exercises left only two fighter jets available to protect the entire Northeastern United States.
I believe that problem has since been dealt with and no longer will only two planes be left at all. Besides, from what I understand in the 9/11 Report, outlined on television, no number of planes could have stopped this at that point.
Building 7, a 47-story skyscraper and part of the World Trade Center complex, was not struck by a plane but collapsed in 6.5 seconds at 5:20 p.m. on September 11th, in the exact manner of a controlled demolition.
I watched that happen... Hey, didn't the other buildings fall in much the same way? If I'm not mistaken, aren't towers built to fall in such a manner to make demolition easier? The impact of the debris and such was great enough to rock the foundations of buildings next door...
There was no visible airplane debris where Flight 93 supposedly crashed in
Pennsylvania * only a smoking hole in the ground, much like a bomb crater.
Flight 93 never existed! Right...
Office fires burn at low temperatures of 600-800 dF. Jet fuel is an ordinary
hydrocarbon; its maximal burning temperature is 1200 dF in open air. Steel melts at 2750 d F. Neither jet fuel nor the burning contents of the buildings could cause the towers' steel structure to buckle or fail.
Ditto utcrazy
Tests have shown that cell-phone calls cannot be made at altitudes over 4000 to 8000 feet, as cell towers are located on the ground. Airplanes fly at 30,000 feet and above. No passenger could have called for help on a cell phone from an airborne plane on 9/11.
If I remember right, the towers aren't 30,000 feet and above... Besides, the flight attendants who called before th planes dipped lower used an in-flight phone which uses "stronger signals over land to connect to one of over 150 radio towers located within the United States (Mythbusters Fact)."
9/11 was immediately declared an "act of war" by President Bush. The rubble from the Twin Towers' collapse was carted away and the steel sold and shipped overseas without examination.
What was there to examine, exactly? It was an act of war, so automatically we have to investigate and affirm what was already visibly obvious?
Enormous profits were made by insiders on plummeting stock prices of the two airlines involved in 9/11 * American and United. Federal law protects their identities.
Okay. Which law? Tell me and I can look into that, but I already believe it's something irrelevant. I'm not really going to sit through 90 minutes of BS to find out.
Accepting victims' compensation barred 9/11 families from further discovery through litigation.
...?
1. 9/11 did happen and was a tragedy
2. Americans did land on the moon legit
3. The holocaust did happen
You forgot to mention so many more... Including the many WWII conspiracies.
Dean
September 20th, 2006, 21:53
Don't you guys get it?
How could the FBI know who the TERRORISTS could be from the passenger list WITHIN HOURS?
There was no youtube footage during the hi-jack.
.Joe.
September 20th, 2006, 22:59
Don't you guys get it?
How could the FBI know who the TERRORISTS could be from the passenger list WITHIN HOURS?
There was no youtube footage during the hi-jack.
Why don't you let 9/11 be 9/11. George Bush, isn't that much of an idiot. It was a tragedy, it was a time of sorrow, it was an act of terroism.
After watching United 93, they were using plane phones, calling their families. Did you ever think they said middle eastern man have taken over the plane. Looking at a list of passengers on a plane, I don't think it would be hard to distinguish who was who, etc. (race, nationality, etc.)
Again, just let things be.
People who design and film those movies are just people who have "no" lives; and just like to influence people in their stupid --- conspiracies.
GamePhreak
September 20th, 2006, 23:02
Don't you guys get it?
How could the FBI know who the TERRORISTS could be from the passenger list WITHIN HOURS?
There was no youtube footage during the hi-jack.
http://www.fbi.gov/pressrel/pressrel01/091401hj.htm
The reason they identified most of them so quickly because, if they made any reasonable attempt to hide their identities (from what I understand, most of them didn't), then they were one of the few Arabs on the flight.
Dean
September 20th, 2006, 23:04
I knew it! The FBI are racist.
GamePhreak
September 20th, 2006, 23:17
If you identify around 15 of the hijackers and they're all Arabic, and you have some scattered intelligence about a plot like this being done by trained Arabs, then what about the other 4? It's not like they just chose Arabs randomly because most terrorists are Arab. They chose them because every other one in this plot was... (Numbers are used for example)
Also, they took four days to release the announcement so it probably took them that long to verify the other few. In that time, there's little doubt that they just sat back with some suspect list, but instead did some digging to find out the truth.
Either way, your point has died.
Jan
September 20th, 2006, 23:22
No official agency (FAA, FBI, or the airlines) has ever released a list of the 9/11 passengers. But within hours, the FBI released a list of the hijackers.
I was refreshing the site daily that had the list of identified dead, and they stated where they died on that site. That included which plane they were from. If I can remember the site, I will post it.
GamePhreak
September 20th, 2006, 23:23
Yeah... Indeed. Actually, that is a good point, because I have a flag with the names of the passengers on it. I completely missed that.
Dean
September 20th, 2006, 23:32
Yes, the passenger lists exist but..
No official agency (FAA, FBI, or the airlines) has ever released a list of the 9/11 passengers. But within hours, the FBI released a list of the hijackers.
Jan
September 21st, 2006, 02:19
Why should there be a government official list? They may have had a list of who was on the planes, but there was no guarantee that certain people actually made the flight. How many people a day miss a flight? By releasing a list of passengers it would cause family and friends to panic possibly needlessly. They were listed as DNA results came in to formally identify them.
Conspiracy theories will abound forever and so will the gullible people who believe in them ;)
Dean
September 21st, 2006, 02:29
They found DNA? Thats a newie for me.
stuffradio
September 21st, 2006, 02:39
c'mon Dean.... why don't you just let 9/11 exist the way it is... it's not a consipracy. The only thing that is questionable is the War in Iraq, but the thing that happened at 9/11 is not
tandoc
September 21st, 2006, 02:48
That's lame, stop spreading ---- and putting down the lives of thousands of people who died.
What the ----. This has nothing to do with putting down the lives of the thousands who died. I'm not saying the video is any good, or full of crap, but before you go playing the lame --- family/emotional card, think about the point of the video.
If I read correctly in the description:
No agenda. No finger-pointing. Just the facts and the "mysteries."
The rest of you that insist on using 'the thousands of lives lost that day' argument, you should probably rethink it. It's not the one with the theories that's putting them down, it's you. I'm going to argue another stupid point to counter that, on 9/11/2001, 3200 people died of disease or cancer. What about them? We can all play that lame --- family/emotion card.
Lastly, don't naysay those trying to understand what exactly happened that day just because people lost their lives. It's not just something you can stop thinking about and guard it with 'think about the thousands of lives lost', we need to think about it, we need to analyse it, so we can make sure it never happens again.
pirate2
Jan
September 21st, 2006, 02:49
Dean, you were 14 when that happened? How much attention did you pay to it after the initial horror? I followed the events daily, concerned about all the Australians that were missing in this tragedy.
stuffradio
September 21st, 2006, 02:53
tandoc it's just like thousands of kids die each day due to hunger... that is and is not the point. It's not the point because this was an attack on the country, it is the point because it's almost the same thing you are saying
sep
September 21st, 2006, 07:06
George Bush, isn't that much of an idiot.
You might wanna reconsider that peticular sentence.
Dean
September 21st, 2006, 07:15
Dean, you were 14 when that happened? How much attention did you pay to it after the initial horror? I followed the events daily, concerned about all the Australians that were missing in this tragedy.
Yeah I followed it - with the disbelief that the buildings couldn't of fallen down just cause the planes crashed into them; and how WTC7 fell down just because it caught fire.
Wojtek
September 21st, 2006, 08:43
Building 7 is the proof the planes did not cause the colaps of the other towers.
Giuliani was warned they were gonna blow #7, so he left that building. I remeber beeing a big contoversy back then about it but somehow it got hushed down.
anhedonia
September 21st, 2006, 19:34
If people wish to discuss this, let them. We can only become more informed and more aware if we do explore other ideas, suggestions, and "facts".
This video may just be propaganda, but at least it is an alternative to the propaganda we are fed every single day on the usual media channels.
People need to be far more open-minded and intelligent when dealing with the media.
GamePhreak
September 21st, 2006, 21:36
You might wanna reconsider that peticular sentence.
You may want to reconsider your spelling abilities.
Yeah I followed it - with the disbelief that the buildings couldn't of fallen down just cause the planes crashed into them; and how WTC7 fell down just because it caught fire.
You and Michael Moore. Two planes cut through the buildings, cut through the structure, cut through the steel. These weren't just some planes; they were extremely large commercial jets nearly filled with fuel. Also, WTC7 didn't just catch fire. It suffered severe structural damage upon the impact of the two main towers.
Giuliani was warned they were gonna blow #7, so he left that building. I remeber beeing a big contoversy back then about it but somehow it got hushed down.
Interesting. Source, please?
anhedonia
September 21st, 2006, 23:28
I love how defensive people get when you question what the media has fed you. Why be so adamant that everything the opposing side says is 100% wrong? And why be so arrogant about it? You are stating what you believe is 'fact', just like the person from the opposition is. Can't we just have a grown up debate? :rolleyes:
Yellowmc
September 22nd, 2006, 12:59
This all goes back to 1947 and the question of what happened at Roswell?
I wouldn't be shocked to find out 9/11 was not a terrorist attack.
Nug
September 22nd, 2006, 13:31
I think alien's did it..
Darko
September 22nd, 2006, 15:36
1. 9/11 did happen and was a tragedy
2. Americans did land on the moon legit
3. The holocaust did happen
i might deffrent opinion about the couses and with consequences of these event but yeah, i believe that they are are legit, i don't like conspiracy creatures and believers, sometimes you have to accept things as they are
Craig
September 22nd, 2006, 16:41
The whole world is one big conspiracy, believe people, its true.
People are so hooked into there own life they don't see whats going on, they don't want to believe whats going on. We are all controlled.
Don't people understand, we (the public) control the world, not the government, agencies, banks etc etc, if we all stuck together we could take them down but like I said, people dont want to believe this & that's why they believe what there told.
One day it will all come to an end & it will be to late, am just glad I wont be around to see that but my children's...children's may.
Greed, politics & MONEY = ONE BIG CONSPIRACY
Nug
September 22nd, 2006, 17:36
The whole world is one big conspiracy, believe people, its true.
People are so hooked into there own life they don't see whats going on, they don't want to believe whats going on. We are all controlled.
Don't people understand, we (the public) control the world, not the government, agencies, banks etc etc, if we all stuck together we could take them down but like I said, people dont want to believe this & that's why they believe what there told.
One day it will all come to an end & it will be to late, am just glad I wont be around to see that but my children's...children's may.
Greed, politics & MONEY = ONE BIG CONSPIRACY
Yea, that's what the hippies were all about! Lets start a new 60s:P
themoose
September 22nd, 2006, 18:05
The whole world is one big conspiracy, believe people, its true.
People are so hooked into there own life they don't see whats going on, they don't want to believe whats going on. We are all controlled.
Don't people understand, we (the public) control the world, not the government, agencies, banks etc etc, if we all stuck together we could take them down but like I said, people dont want to believe this & that's why they believe what there told.
One day it will all come to an end & it will be to late, am just glad I wont be around to see that but my children's...children's may.
Greed, politics & MONEY = ONE BIG CONSPIRACY
Are you calling this so called "God" a criminal?
Nug
September 22nd, 2006, 18:52
Wait until the Pope gets hold of you Craig:o
Craig
September 22nd, 2006, 18:59
Are you calling this so called "God" a criminal?
I do not believe in god, the church is another conspiracy which is controlled by money, abuse, rape & so much more. How the hell people have faith in something so corrupt goes beyond me.
utcrazy
September 22nd, 2006, 23:00
What the ----. This has nothing to do with putting down the lives of the thousands who died. I'm not saying the video is any good, or full of crap, but before you go playing the lame --- family/emotional card, think about the point of the video.
If I read correctly in the description:
No agenda. No finger-pointing. Just the facts and the "mysteries."
The rest of you that insist on using 'the thousands of lives lost that day' argument, you should probably rethink it. It's not the one with the theories that's putting them down, it's you. I'm going to argue another stupid point to counter that, on 9/11/2001, 3200 people died of disease or cancer. What about them? We can all play that lame --- family/emotion card.
Lastly, don't naysay those trying to understand what exactly happened that day just because people lost their lives. It's not just something you can stop thinking about and guard it with 'think about the thousands of lives lost', we need to think about it, we need to analyse it, so we can make sure it never happens again.
pirate2
I'm not playing the "lame ---" family tradgedy card, I didn't know a single person in the building,a nd I didn't know anyone who knew anyone in that building. I just don't like when people put things down like this. Conspiricies are horse ---- and people who believe them are just denying the facts that contridict them.
Tree
September 23rd, 2006, 09:08
National Institute of Standards and Technology: Fact Sheet (http://wtc.nist.gov/pubs/factsheets/faqs_8_2006.htm)
Popular Mechanics (http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/defense/1227842.html)
Check 'em out.
ExileHosting
September 23rd, 2006, 19:14
how the ---- can you even start this ---- off again, yes i did know people in the south tower in fact i knew 3 people, 2 not so close to me but 1 of them i saw nearly every other weekend when we went out for a coffee. Please tell me how the ---- the US government actually planned this. Why the ---- can't you guys just drop it and face it, 9/11 happened, so ----ing what if theres no bloody ID list IT HAPPENED.
PS: i appologise for the language but im sure you can see where im coming from
Yellowmc
September 23rd, 2006, 19:23
We know it happened, that's clear to see. The question is how and why it happened?
Robert
September 23rd, 2006, 20:50
We know it happened, that's clear to see. The question is how and why it happened?
How? 2 airplanes were hijacked and then flown into both towers. Another one was hijacked and crashed into the Pentagon. A third one, enroute to Washington, was brought down over PA by the brave passengers.
Why? Because in 1993 they attacked WTC and their 'boom' was more like a boom. And they were upset so they tried again.
Terrorists are pretty stupid. America does NOT negotiate with terrorists. Yet they think we do.
GamePhreak
September 23rd, 2006, 21:36
I love how defensive people get when you question what the media has fed you. Why be so adamant that everything the opposing side says is 100% wrong? And why be so arrogant about it? You are stating what you believe is 'fact', just like the person from the opposition is. Can't we just have a grown up debate? :rolleyes:
I'm attempting to by providing logical defenses. I'm not always with the media (often I'm not), but there is just so much evidence and so much attached to this, and I'm placing what I can here. It's very difficult, you see, when every other post is littered with "---" and "----" and "---head" and "---face."
Tree
September 24th, 2006, 17:23
Anyone who seriously thinks that the United States of America bombed themselves is horribly misinformed, and is not even an American in my eyes.
stuffradio
September 24th, 2006, 19:32
I do not believe in god, the church is another conspiracy which is controlled by money, abuse, rape & so much more. How the hell people have faith in something so corrupt goes beyond me.
I disagree, but that's another topic... and it depends on what religion your talking about... in some cases I agree ;)
Darko
September 26th, 2006, 13:43
well, i did a little research on google and i got some really intersting results, like 911blogger.com, and i found this video http://ia300235.us.archive.org/3/items/911revisited/September_11th_Revisited.wmv
you might find intersting
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