Ads / No Ads?

[iLucas]

Do you allow your users to place their own ads on that website? We previously had, then came to a realization.

Why would you allow someone to use your completely free service, which you payout for monthly, only to make money of their own?

We no longer allow them to have ads, as it's really not feasible.

What do you think?

[TSO]

Yes, of course we allow our users to have their own ads! :) I don't think your reason is a very good one - as long as they cannot remove your ads, why care?

[iLucas]

My hosting is completely post free, ad free, free posting. Being it's completely ad free, we're making nothing on ads from a users website. Why should they? They aren't paying out anything, but it's still feasible enough to make money?

No, it's not legit.

[Blade1941]

No I think you shouldn't allow users to have their own ads, and his reason is a very good reason.

Banners and Links to their affiliates should be ok but not google ads or similar because then the site is commercial and then you are earning money on hosting you got for free which is unfair for the webhosting you hosted you!

Commercial sites should use paid plans I think, while only Personal/Educational sites should be accepted as free.

[Namepad]

If you are looking for an opinion, then mine would be that since the host/provider takes all the risk as well as the cost, the free user should not profit without cost or risk.

My parents never gave me a credit card and said I could use it without paying the bills.

But to each their own

[TSO]

Again, I think it's stupid and selfish not to allow your users to do what they want with their Websites. Maybe that's just me, but I am a fan of giving the user full control. :)

[Dotcom]

Hello.I think that placing ads is more honest than free hosting without ads... Because you always know how you pay for your hosting. Hosting without ads always looks strange for me.

[Blade1941]

Again, I think it's stupid and selfish not to allow your users to do what they want with their Websites. Maybe that's just me, but I am a fan of giving the user full control. :)

And I think it's stupid and "selfish" to Allow free users to put ads on your ad/free hosting.. and earn cash on it.

You just talk crap to get more users, because what lucas was talking about is no ads at all from his side but your hosting has Quote from your signature: "minimal ads"..

We are in fact talking about webhosters who give free hosting without any condition! and its an insult to them if the user earns money out of their free hosting.

EDIT: Admin: The Stealthy One spammed my reps just because I didn't agree with him O.o

[iLucas]

Again, I think it's stupid and selfish not to allow your users to do what they want with their Websites. Maybe that's just me, but I am a fan of giving the user full control. :)

In that case, you need to remove the warez/adult portion of your TOS. :lol: Free users having full control is a downward spiral to termination.

We have a long TOS, however, it's not restricting someone running a basic, moral website, with no problem.

[Blade1941]

The Stealthy One: very mature to spam my reps..

[iLucas]

And I think it's stupid and "selfish" to Allow free users to put ads on your ad/free hosting.. and earn cash on it. You just talk crap, because what lucas was talking about is no ads at all from his side, but your hosting has Quote from your signature: "minimal ads".. We are in fact talking about PEOPLE who give free hosting without any condition! and its an insult to them if the user earns money out of their free hosting.

Seriously, I don't require any ads whatsoever, and at most, a simple link back to our hosting, if you're using your own domain.

[Blade1941]

Seriously, I don't require any ads whatsoever, and at most, a simple link back to our hosting, if you're using your own domain.

I get that, but that other user don't and just because of that he's mad.

But I think what he said is hypocritical and therefore I stay for what I said, he was saying bull----.

His service has ads, that's why he allow others to put ads but Lucas service is without ads no wonder this guy gives "full permission" to his users as he calls it.


Reps 1- "gay member"
Reps 1- "wtf dnt slack of ppl btr thn u"
Reps 1- "Don't post forums, genius!"

Can a admin remove them? Because the reps doesn't have anything with my thread posts to do, and how does he know my sexuality?

[TSO]

Blade1941, I have no clue what you're talking about. That was not by me, as I do not talk like that. I have reported this matter, as well as your PM, to Jan. There is no way to tell which member sent you a rep, so you have no right to accuse me. To be honest, I have no clue who you are, and don't even recognize your username. If I receive another PM from you, I will be reporting that again as well.

I do not agree with what folks are saying about allowing no ads, but you are more than welcome to ask any of them whether they have a bad rep because of this thread - if they do, I would be shocked.

You should also realize that it is impossible to send three reps to one user in such a short amount of time.

[TSO]

Hello.I think that placing ads is more honest than free hosting without ads... Because you always know how you pay for your hosting. Hosting without ads always looks strange for me.

I definitely agree with that. What I don't understand is how free hosts who have no ads, and require no forum posting, are staying in business. This puzzles me greatly! :p

[iLucas]

I definitely agree with that. What I don't understand is how free hosts who have no ads, and require no forum posting, are staying in business. This puzzles me greatly! :p

It's not very difficult, considering we're making enough from ads on our own site to upkeep the hosting.

[TSO]

Really? The ads don't seem too targeted, but that is definitely intriguing. Do you get much from PayPal donations?

[iLucas]

Really? The ads don't seem too targeted, but that is definitely intriguing. Do you get much from PayPal donations?

We have yet to receive via donation, but we've only been up and running for less than a month. When I started, it wasn't my intent to make money or even cut even, but thus far, it's looking pretty good.

[TSO]

So what are your long-term plans for the service? Obviously, users would want t o be assured that you'll be around for the long run. What are you doing to ensure that they don't lose confidence in your services?

(Not trying to be critical, I'm just really interested in your business model.)

[Cram]

We require no ads, instead we require forum posts. All i want is a fairly good community with a few posts and i'll be happy, as i started this as a hobby.

[iLucas]

So what are your long-term plans for the service? Obviously, users would want t o be assured that you'll be around for the long run. What are you doing to ensure that they don't lose confidence in your services?

(Not trying to be critical, I'm just really interested in your business model.)

Long term, it's simple, we'll continue to give free hosting. We've just opened up a paid hosting branch, and that'll help pay for services. Right now, we're cutting even in ads from our own community, and it should stay fairly even depending on community usage.

It's all good, we're not going anywhere. :beer:

[TSO]

EDIT: Ok, well that makes sense. Is the paid hosting taking off well?

[iLucas]

EDIT: Ok, well that makes sense. Is the paid hosting taking off well?

Like I've stated, it's just really getting kicked off. You should ask me that in about six months. :cool2:

[TSO]

Gotcha! Well, thanks for the info! Sorry if I was obnoxious! :p

[iLucas]

Gotcha! Well, thanks for the info! Sorry if I was obnoxious! :p

It's fine, I find it interesting the route that other people take. It's really interesting to see which plan actually stays around.

[alley]

I never really gave it too much thought, although I think free web hosting should pretty much be offered for non profit sites so if they are placing adds they are trying to make money with your web space.

[kirby145]

Here's how I feel about this. My host lets users place their own ads. They have no ads/ no posting but a great and active community anyway.

I don't have ads on my sites, because I don't yet have up a set of high traffic sites that I am planning. Then I really come to think about this subject, should I have ads.

Well the answer is no. Because if ads are not needed then why should I ruin the internet for my viewers.

But in another thought, I should support my host as well by putting small ad on my pages that are completely optional and by request, then i would feel comfortable by having 2 ads on the site, 1 of which is mine, 1 of which I give to my host.

So, my host lets you have ads no matter what. You don't think this is a good idea, but some users may want to place their own ads. Place a fair rule in this area.

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Of course that's an idea. Not the best but I don't see any other way I would do it.

I don't really like free hosts that also have paid hosting though. That kind of makes me leave right away knowing it's just not 100% free host

[h0ster]

Do you allow your users to place their own ads on that website? We previously had, then came to a realization.

Why would you allow someone to use your completely free service, which you payout for monthly, only to make money of their own?

We no longer allow them to have ads, as it's really not feasible.

What do you think?

Really, no offence here, but you only appear to have 14 users. We have over 250 with the same deal. Free hosting isnt about making money, its about giving a service, there are other benefits too but you have to work those out for yourself.