Vista Anyone

[utcrazy]

Hey Y'all,

Anyone using vista yet? Can anyone comment on the updated features or stability, I haven't used it since the beta.

Thanks

[deVious hosting]

Hello

I am using it. i am on P4 2.4 GHz with 512 MB of Memory and it runs smooth, i really like the new layout and better graphics. no doubt it uses way more system resources then old window versions.

[utcrazy]

Any specific features that are worth the switch? Can you upgrade from XP?

[Wojtek]

Did they finally add the 'UP' button in explorer?

[brutetal]

I'd personally wait 6-12 months before personally buying it for myself.
Who knows what bugs or glitches are on it.

[y01tzkev]

Nothing really special about Vista, it's just a new look.
Much of the options are re-located and sorted differently so it will take some time to get used to the new interface.

What annoys me most is that I cannot install software that has unsigned signature like Firefox. It just wouldn't install it and I just used Opera.

Definitely, Vista is a hog on resources, especially on pre-built systems you buy from stores. If you run Vista on a decent system, it will run smoothly, such as the dual core processors. Vista just tries to make EVERYTHING look "pretty and flashy".

Vista is just aesthetics. Nothing worth it and the "security features" just ask you about EVERYTHING little thing happening on your computer like "Opera Browser wants to connect to the internet. Allow or Do not Allow"

Windows will never be as "secure" as it claims, it just giving their customers a bad message, giving them a false sense of security (those not so technical).

[Bruce]

I'm waiting for SP1 at the very least...

[stuffradio]

I hear that the final release is very stable... I'm still on RC1 so I wouldn't know rofl :p

[tandoc]

I'm definitely interested, and student pricing may actually lead me to buy it :P

However, I'll probably get it with a laptop first (in like a year maybe), then consider installing it on my desktop (which is more than capable).

[Paul]

I am going to wait 6 months or so, I bought a vista ready laptop so I hope not to have much trouble with it, is it true you can use flash disks as ram

[TSO]

Not using it, and won't be. All of my new systems will be Macs. :) Vista is a major waste of time and money. :rolleyes:

[iLucas]

Not using it, and won't be. All of my new systems will be Macs. :) Vista is a major waste of time and money. :rolleyes:

They said that about XP back in 02, and now, it's the most widely used O/S in the world. Infact, do you know how many people I know said they would stay with Windows 2000, rather than XP, only to use XP in the end?

Windows XP is awesome, and I'm sure Vista will be down the line.

[TSO]

Nah, I'm sticking with Macs. :)

[Dini]

I would like to test it, but I most probably wouldn't keep it. I don't have computers that qualify to such high system usage

[iLucas]

According to the news today, they've already found a flaw with the voice recognition program.

Like previously mentioned, I'd wait til SP1 first, too.

[JonnyH]

Im on the final Vista Buisness version. Much more stable, speedier than XP. Is worth purchasing.

[utcrazy]

Yeah, my system can more than handle it.

[Johnson]

They said that about XP back in 02, and now, it's the most widely used O/S in the world. Infact, do you know how many people I know said they would stay with Windows 2000, rather than XP, only to use XP in the end?

Windows XP is awesome, and I'm sure Vista will be down the line.
XP isn't awesome, it's just not as bad as the previous versions.

[TaiLZ]

Vista isn't bad, but it isn't good yet.

SP1 at the very least.

[Keagle]

I've never tried it, do you think my P.C could handle it?

AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual @ 2.21GHz each
1GB RAM
NVidea 7600GT x2

I want to use it for games aswell, I will upgrade the graphic card's when they 8800 comes out for Direct X 10. Will my PC cope?

[Galaxy-Hosts.com]

I actually plan to wait for SP2 before I try it. But then again by the time sp2 is out Linux may have the better features included in Vista with out the negatives, Funny how that works :p

[themoose]

I've never tried it, do you think my P.C could handle it?

AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual @ 2.21GHz each
1GB RAM
NVidea 7600GT x2

I want to use it for games aswell, I will upgrade the graphic card's when they 8800 comes out for Direct X 10. Will my PC cope?

Well that's more than the recc. specs so there's no reason why it shouldn't.

[Wojtek]

Kurt, The beta's ran quite well on my pc:
- barton 2500
- 1gb ram
- 6600gt

So it should work well on yours :)

[kjavia795]

windows vienna is gona be the best, vista is just a temporary fix

[impactgc]

I have an msdn subscription - I have to say it scared me when I installed all the betas - it was slow, had issues and supported nothing :)

Now that I have the full version - I like the design, speed, and depending on the version the features.

Thanks,
Adam

[bryceton]

It seems half decent but the only real improvement is the vista theme.
My computer can easily run it with no problems what so ever.
e4300, 1gb ram, 7600 gt.
All my hardware worked during default setup. haven't really experienced any bugs yet. Other than flashing black screen happening during updates which may not be a bug or to do with nvidia..

[Matt8]

I have been running the final build for 3.5 weeks or so [got it before official release, as many did either with work or MSDN], and have actually been pretty happy with it. It is running perhaps FASTER on this unit then XP did.

I have ran into a few problems though, I cannot get any of my ATi tv tuners to work, ATi claims they will have drivers out soon, but its way past the release and I am tired of waiting. One Gaim plugin [guifications] doesnt like Vista. Outside of that, everything has been very stable, I have not had a freeze or BSOD or anything in the time I've ran the final build. In comparison, I cursed and hating both Release Candidates.

As far as killer features that make you want to switch; none. Visual style is different, the 3D effect is fairly worthless, I do like Windows Gadgets but thats something you could get with any widgets/konfabulator program.

I have already seen infected machines running Vista, so security measures can't be that much greater. User Account Control is a pain, I turned mine off almost immediately after having the machine on.

Yes, you can use a flash drive for "ram", sort of. It is only for very small I/O requests, but does make a slight difference if you have just a little amount of memory. I recommend a MINIMUM of 1gb for Vista, 512 is a nightmare.

[Richard]

I've got to persuade a small business to switch to Vista next Wednesday. Thats going to be quite a hard task considering I don't believe it in myself. Seems I have allot of research to do this weekend :S.

[Wojtek]

Why recommend something you don't approve? Makes no sense.

[Wojtek]

Having nothing better to do, I started reading A Cost Analysis of Windows Vista Content Protection (http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.html#introduction) and explorer various links it presented.
A pretty lengthy article describing the ways Vista is cripple with DRM restrictions and possible consequences.


Vista includes various requirements for “robustness” in which the content industry, through “hardware robustness rules”, dictates design requirements to hardware manufacturers. The level of control the content producers have over technical design details is nothing short of amazing. As security researcher Ed Felten quoted from Microsoft documents on his freedom-to-tinker web site about a year ago:

“The evidence [of security] must be presented to Hollywood and other content owners, and they must agree that it provides the required level of security. Written proof from at least three of the major Hollywood studios is required”.

So if you design a new security system, you can't get it supported in Windows Vista until well-known computer security experts like MGM, 20th Century-Fox, and Disney give you the go-ahead (this gives a whole new meaning to the term “Mickey-Mouse security”). It's absolutely astonishing to find paragraphs like this in what are supposed to be Windows technical documents, since it gives Hollywood studios veto rights over Windows security mechanisms.
Go Microsoft Go! :rolleyes:

That article also gave me an explanation why my ASIO drivers were not working under Vista. Yep. DRM. No vista for me.

[Richard]

Why recommend something you don't approve? Makes no sense.

Day job's normally do not make sense. But thats life ;)

[Matt8]

hosting-shack, you shouldn't have too many problems. If you run into any holes, PM me and I'll present you some new ideas maybe.

[Richard]

hosting-shack, you shouldn't have too many problems. If you run into any holes, PM me and I'll present you some new ideas maybe.

I ran over most the details last night without a problem.

I might take you up on that offer later ;) Thanks.

[Abush]

I've got to persuade a small business to switch to Vista next Wednesday. Thats going to be quite a hard task considering I don't believe it in myself. Seems I have allot of research to do this weekend :S.
Please don't do that. That's just wrong.

[themoose]

Switched to Vista and it seems pretty damned nice. Not sure if I'd recommend it to a business though, I think they need more processing power than flashy stuff.

[brutetal]

Anyone managed to sucessfully switch back to XP from Vista?

Because Microsoft would void the XP version that was previously installed making it a one way trip to Vista once you upgraded.

Did they ever mentioned that?

Here's a link... (http://megagames.com/news/html/software/vistaupgradeirreversible.shtml)

[Wojtek]

reformat and reinstall
that worked with the betas

[themoose]

Anyone managed to sucessfully switch back to XP from Vista?

Because Microsoft would void the XP version that was previously installed making it a one way trip to Vista once you upgraded.

Did they ever mentioned that?

Here's a link... (http://megagames.com/news/html/software/vistaupgradeirreversible.shtml)

Only if you have the upgrade version.

Hell, my XP was a pirate version anyway :p

[Richard]

Please don't do that. That's just wrong.

Already done it. Sorry :S.

I have to admit, I did not need to say much anyway, seems they too had been doing their research and where already sure in their mind they wanted to switch.

[iBrightDev]

there are upgrades from XP, and if you have a pirated version of XP (ssshhhhh), there is a work around for an upgrade.
http://www.instantvista.com/windows-vista-upgrade.html
i am buying it tomorrow afternoon. i tested all betas, and loved it. very stable actually for a first release. i am buying the full version though cause i want to go legit.

[heymrdj]

I'm going to get Vista Business through MSDN. I might spring for Ultra though with my own money. Depends on my cash flow then. I'll be installing it on two new builds I'll be doing in about six months. But the system will be triple boot. Debian Edgy, Kubuntu, and Vista. One 80GB drive will hold all my OS's while multiple other drives are used as the storage.

[iBrightDev]

if you live in the USA and have a Frys Electronics or something like it, you might be able to pick up an OEM copy. that is what i did. only $200 USD that way.