How do you think about Cybertoad.net hosting?

[Subhash]

I personally have a bitter experience with cybertoad.net hosting. Once I submitted a request for free account. It was told that I would be informed by email after the administrator’s review whether my hosting request would be accepted or denied. I repeatedly checked the status, and each time it said that "frozen for administrator's" review. After 5 days I e-mailed their support team about my request status. Then also no reply. At the end of 10 days two mails came one from their hosting department and second from their support team. The Hosting department says that since I didn’t used my account for 10 days my account has been deleted. The support department says that My hosting request has been denied.
I was confused about the two contradictory answers. I again mailed them about the two mails and asked to clarify the matter, but I received no reply.

Do any one have any experience with Cybertoad.net and tell how is their hosting. May be I am wrong about them. If they are really good I may again try to get an account.

[poring]

Wow! That's the same process that I've gone through exactly as you said! He even claims that he owns all of these networks and that I would be "screwed" if I attempted to "mess" with him. I tried to be civil with him, but it never works.

He always insults people and I think he impersonates some people on the forums saying "how great" his hosting is. Right now, I am having a wonderful experience with x10hosting, another free hoster. On the other hand, cybertoad.net is so horrible.

The website is at the very least half functional. Half of the buttons don't even work; he must be a so called professional who has been working with computers for 32 years. Come on, if I was able to make a decent mock website at the age of 15(see www.nueway.com) after obtaining my first internet connection and computer at age 13, then he should be able to do much better in terms of:
1) Emotion control. He just can't. He even death threatened an admin of this forum.
2) Ego. He just has too much. Seriously, his services aren't top notch. He doesn't even offer Ruby on Rails(one of the newer frameworks out there that people are raving, which I still am considering to switch to from php)
3) Website. Half functional frontpage. Ability to use <me> tags to impersonate others as a "funny joke". Hard-to-navigate forum.

I was so hurt by his responses at that time; I think I was seriously emotionally scarred. I can't think right now of what else he did wrong. I don't care if he might have the "best technical hosting." In my eyes, and many others in my school, he's what most people call a "jerk" and <insert any other deragotory comment>.

Now that I'm 16, I now know that it was a waste of time to even try communicating with him. A better thing to do would be go to so called "lesser" free hosts or even paid hosts like icdsoft.com or integra-net.com. I could afford to shell out $40-$72 a year by cutting grass or working at minimum wage at a store once a month if that means less time spent doing something(time=money) and much better service.

(sorry for the long complaint, but it's been bothering me for so long)

[Subhash]

Thanks for letting me know about them, not even think of them there are many better one even in this forum available.

Any more experience from others...

[goblin77]

But you want to change your host, don't you?

[Kwek]

Wow! That's the same process that I've gone through exactly as you said! He even claims that he owns all of these networks and that I would be "screwed" if I attempted to "mess" with him. I tried to be civil with him, but it never works.

He always insults people and I think he impersonates some people on the forums saying "how great" his hosting is. Right now, I am having a wonderful experience with x10hosting, another free hoster. On the other hand, cybertoad.net is so horrible.

The website is at the very least half functional. Half of the buttons don't even work; he must be a so called professional who has been working with computers for 32 years. Come on, if I was able to make a decent mock website at the age of 15(see www.nueway.com (http://www.nueway.com)) after obtaining my first internet connection and computer at age 13, then he should be able to do much better in terms of:
1) Emotion control. He just can't. He even death threatened an admin of this forum.
2) Ego. He just has too much. Seriously, his services aren't top notch. He doesn't even offer Ruby on Rails(one of the newer frameworks out there that people are raving, which I still am considering to switch to from php)
3) Website. Half functional frontpage. Ability to use <me> tags to impersonate others as a "funny joke". Hard-to-navigate forum.

I was so hurt by his responses at that time; I think I was seriously emotionally scarred. I can't think right now of what else he did wrong. I don't care if he might have the "best technical hosting." In my eyes, and many others in my school, he's what most people call a "jerk" and <insert any other deragotory comment>.

Now that I'm 16, I now know that it was a waste of time to even try communicating with him. A better thing to do would be go to so called "lesser" free hosts or even paid hosts like icdsoft.com or integra-net.com. I could afford to shell out $40-$72 a year by cutting grass or working at minimum wage at a store once a month if that means less time spent doing something(time=money) and much better service.

(sorry for the long complaint, but it's been bothering me for so long)
Not that I am defending him or anything, but I don't see every host offering Ruby on Rails too. As for the <me> tags, does it somehow state who is the actual poster? If it does, it is still alright in my opinion. If it doesn't, well, a lot of trouble can arise from that.

I have once tried to use his host but failed miserably due to some reasons which partly was my fault so I cannot say much about his host. However, his behaviour on this forum shows that he has a very bad attidude and yes I agree, he has a problem with his ego. I used to have a good impression of him and hence pushed all the blame of not being able to register on his host on me. However, his behaviour later on the forum proved otherwise and totally smashed my good impression of him.

Well, no script is perfect so it is logical that your request could be bugged. But from what Subhash mentioned, it seems that they are either trying to prevent new users from registering to save resources or they are playing around with their users.

Just my 2 cents and a bit of personal experience with them.

Regards,
Kwek

[Subhash]

But from what Subhash mentioned, it seems that they are either trying to prevent new users from registering to save resources or they are playing around with their users.

Hi Kwek,

You are right, but the story I mentioned, happened long ago. Still they are open foe new accounts, if they are incapable of accepting new accounts or they don't want to, then they should be straight forward and stop accepting new accounts. Thus it seems that your second option is correct.

[Kwek]

Hi Kwek,

You are right, but the story I mentioned, happened long ago. Still they are open foe new accounts, if they are incapable of accepting new accounts or they don't want to, then they should be straight forward and stop accepting new accounts. Thus it seems that your second option is correct.
It is possible that there are other reasons but I believe that what I mentioned is also possible. I am not assuming anything, just stating the possible reasons. I suppose only they themselves know the true reason.

I do hope that it is just an error on their side where they messed up and gave you the wrong answer, and not playing with their users.

[iLucas]

I was with them before going to a reseller. They are too restrictive, and amz is very, very unprofessional.

[poring]

Not that I am defending him or anything, but I don't see every host offering Ruby on Rails too. As for the <me> tags, does it somehow state who is the actual poster? If it does, it is still alright in my opinion. If it doesn't, well, a lot of trouble can arise from that.

I have once tried to use his host but failed miserably due to some reasons which partly was my fault so I cannot say much about his host. However, his behaviour on this forum shows that he has a very bad attidude and yes I agree, he has a problem with his ego. I used to have a good impression of him and hence pushed all the blame of not being able to register on his host on me. However, his behaviour later on the forum proved otherwise and totally smashed my good impression of him.

Well, no script is perfect so it is logical that your request could be bugged. But from what Subhash mentioned, it seems that they are either trying to prevent new users from registering to save resources or they are playing around with their users.

Just my 2 cents and a bit of personal experience with them.

Regards,
Kwek

I know that most hosts don't offer Ruby on Rails, but amz claims to have "everything", literally. He claims that he owns something like 90% of all the high quality servers that are feature packaged with everything.

Er... those <me> tags never say whether it is scripted. Here, I'll give an example. Suppose that my name was jscripter203. I go into a forum and I see post by a guy named retsknarp. Retsknarp types in his post:


Hey, <me>, you are so lame. Why won't you go over here and read the rules. You've bothered me too long with your whining anyway, <me>.

That post would show up as:

Hey, jscripter203, you are so lame. Why won't you go over here and read the rules. You've bothered me too long with your whining anyway, jscripter203.

This really confused me so much at first. There were a lot more offensive ways the <me> tag was used. I thought the people in that forum(3-8?) were actually talking about me; I messed up a bit and only posted a few times in that forum. I almost got mad, but then I found out when a user flamed amz for making fun of him in his signiture.

I also placed the blame on myself, but I'm usually submissive to other people so that was no surprise. That changed when I read a few books and listened to a few audiotapes on assertiveness. A few days later, I just simply left without saying anything since there was no point in wasting 8 hours of my life trying to get an account from him. I might as well just set up my own webserver instead.

There are 3 types of scripts: a good script, a bad script, and a bad script that is claimed to be good. Like some other obnoxious programmers out there, they just can't take it when someone says that something is wrong. 3 other people in that forum and a few in this forum said that they had the same problem as well. I knew it wasn't just me. It was amz's fault entirely. A user should be able to sign up as many times as he wants with the same ip; a simple script written by a one-day old scripter(not even programmer) could easily remove duplicates.

Plus, how he acted was inhumane and against law. He death threats almost everyone. He was claiming that he would "kill me" with a "personal assassin". Think about it, if you were threatened like that... would you just say "O gee, that's not good"? It was chilling to see that in my email late at night... I absolutely have no sympathy for someone who death threats, thinking that it's funny. Of course, if he has a mental disorder, I *might* say otherwise. Here are two threads(forgot the rest) dedicated to him:

http://www.freewebspace.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2182568&highlight=cybertoad

(Yay, I'm still mad for what trouble they actually caused me; I'm sorry for the fuss that I'm making.)

[Darknight]

Just stay away from them...

They used to be good
Now all I hear is bad story after bad story

[Subhash]

Truely I didn't find not even a single person who have some good experience with them. If anyone has some good experience please reply.
However I like to receive both good and bad.

[Eclouds]

You are complaining about a FREE account?

[Kwek]

You are complaining about a FREE account?
Well, I think the complaint is more of directed to amz's attidude and his behaviour, not really his free hosting services.

[Galaxy-Hosts.com]

Well, I think the complaint is more of directed to amz's attidude and his behaviour, not really his free hosting services.

As far as I can tell his attitude and behavior need drastic improvement. That is why he is no longer allowed on FWS.

[Kwek]

As far as I can tell his attitude and behavior need drasic improvement. That is why he is no longer allowed on FWS.
Agreed. Sending death threats to people is the worst thing he can do.

[brutetal]

I personally had a good experiance.
But I didn't had any use for the account, I just used as a small file host for a few days and then just let inactive from there.
So its probly deleted by now.
But overall, it was good.

[Subhash]

You are complaining about a FREE account?

Kwek is right it's not the complain about free hosting but about the attitude they show. One can not or do not want to provide free hosting but it is expected that their attitude to be good.

[Zeppelin]

I understand but that's the attitude of a free host, does he have any TOS to keep to? I don't think so. There's no legal form to establish relations between a free hosting provider and his client in trems of support quality or any other obligations.

[Kwek]

I understand but that's the attitude of a free host, does he have any TOS to keep to? I don't think so. There's no legal form to establish relations between a free hosting provider and his client in trems of support quality or any other obligations.
We are also partly talking about his behaviour on the forums. Threatening the forum admins in different ways and stuff like that.

[Subhash]

Yes, free hosts do not have any legal liability to have good attitude to their free hosted members, but it not only depicts business attitude but also personal attitude. When personal attitude is wrong it doesn’t matter with free or paid or in any other field. In this case you can see his attitude in this forum to the admins, moderators and members.
And for hosting, I don't say it is must to have good attitude from a free host but I say it is expected. It is not desirable that, he has no TOS to keep to so he will be irresponsible.

[Jan]

Good attitude wins a lot more clients than bad attitude. I can understand some off the wannabe hosts having a small fuse, but David is *apparently* in his 30s and owns 90% of the internet :p One doesn't get that high up the food chain by sending death threats and being generally rude and obnoxious.

I suggest you give them a try and report back with your findings if you are having problem finding a host that suits you.

[Jun Luzon]

owns 90% of the internet :p

I'd like to buy the remaining 10% and offer it to the poor. :classic2:

[Kwek]

I'd like to buy the remaining 10% and offer it to the poor. :classic2:
How about you buy that 90% off him?:P

[Jun Luzon]

I'm short in funds and a little of that thing they say - ego. :knockedou
And perhaps no assassin will like my free web hosting so I'm only after the 10%. :cool2:

[satu]

Hahaha :lol: This is so funny. Loosen up guys. they screen the people who request for hosting. Mostly those who end up fuming mad are those who don't read the TOS. Most just click I agree without reading the TOS. Why the TOS? It's been written with much care and coded well. So you are getting FREE hosting and won't even care to read the TOS and expect people to treat you like you deserve it?

Come on guys, loosen up. Heard of freshies?

btw, ct just opened up more hosting packages instead of just the 2GB space and 50GB bandwidth.

cybertoad.net is the most stable host that I've had so far (hm... about 5 years?).

[Jan]

What domain/s do you have hosted with them?

Your few posts seem mainly cybertoad fan club type posts.

[Kwek]

Hahaha :lol: This is so funny. Loosen up guys. they screen the people who request for hosting. Mostly those who end up fuming mad are those who don't read the TOS. Most just click I agree without reading the TOS. Why the TOS? It's been written with much care and coded well. So you are getting FREE hosting and won't even care to read the TOS and expect people to treat you like you deserve it?

Come on guys, loosen up. Heard of freshies?

btw, ct just opened up more hosting packages instead of just the 2GB space and 50GB bandwidth.

cybertoad.net is the most stable host that I've had so far (hm... about 5 years?).
I cannot deny that his hosting service is stable even though it takes around 5 minutes to load the site(for someone who say they own most of the Internet). And look at what he did on FWS. He was simply too arrogant.

The OP mentioned that when he contacted two different departments of the site's support, he received 2 totally different answers. That might just be a small mistake by the staffs but we cannot rule out the possibility that he was simply too arrogant to admit that his script was bugged.

I have had a bad impression of him even since the incident here.

[Subhash]

Hahaha :lol: This is so funny. Loosen up guys. they screen the people who request for hosting. Mostly those who end up fuming mad are those who don't read the TOS. Most just click I agree without reading the TOS. Why the TOS? It's been written with much care and coded well. So you are getting FREE hosting and won't even care to read the TOS and expect people to treat you like you deserve it?

Come on guys, loosen up. Heard of freshies?

btw, ct just opened up more hosting packages instead of just the 2GB space and 50GB bandwidth.

cybertoad.net is the most stable host that I've had so far (hm... about 5 years?).

It's good to hear that you have a good experience with CyberToad. So, can you please tell me the address of your site there, so that we can see your 5yrs old site.

Apart from that i would like to point that having a form to submit the request and a TOS with hidden signup code may provide aid to themselves but it doesn't mean the host is reliable. Every responsible people who are serious about their site will definitely read the TOS properly. One thing more being a good host requires a good hosting support, I personally have the experience of it being poor (though there is nothing to blame for a free host).

[James]

Cybertoad/clubcityclubhostingwhatever, appears to be ran by a toad.

[Kwek]

Cybertoad/clubcityclubhostingwhatever, appears to be ran by a toad.
I see the reason behind your custom user title.

You sure are in a funny mode. :lol:

[Subhash]

Cybertoad/clubcityclubhostingwhatever, appears to be ran by a toad.

:lol: :lol: :lol: Funny, I like your sense of humor.

[JonnyH]

I see the reason behind your custom user title.

You sure are in a funny mode. :lol:
Too bad it was a lame joke :wink2:

[Galaxy-Hosts.com]

Too bad it was a lame joke :wink2: Cybertoad was a lame joke. :confused4 For someone that owned 90% of the internet I expected alot more.

[James]

Cybertoad was a lame joke. :confused4 For someone that owned 90% of the internet I expected alot more.

oldman2 :lol: :beer:

[JonnyH]

Cybertoad was a lame joke. :confused4 For someone that owned 90% of the internet I expected alot more.
Noooo...James' toad joke.

[James]

Noooo...James' toad joke.

Too bad you think it's so lame :lol: Same can be said about your sense of humour. :knockedou

[JonnyH]

lol....At least I laughed at that comment.

[JonnyH]

Oi! You gave me bad rep!

[Jovial]

ok jonny i will give u some positive rep
dont be sad i always like Kwix and for this dont neg rep me
no use no one will see it it off lol :P

[James]

just maybe... it wasn't me :D

[Kwek]

Oi! You gave me bad rep!
Hey! Did I just turn your rep green?

I thought mine was going to be neutral for sure.:eek2:

[JonnyH]

Hehe..thanks for the rep.

[h0ster]

Good attitude wins a lot more clients than bad attitude. I can understand some off the wannabe hosts having a small fuse, but David is *apparently* in his 30s and owns 90% of the internet :p One doesn't get that high up the food chain by sending death threats and being generally rude and obnoxious.

I suggest you give them a try and report back with your findings if you are having problem finding a host that suits you.

What about George Bush?


Oi! You gave me bad rep!
He does that:S

I think people do have every right to complain about a free host. You can't offer a service telling everyone its great and the say they're not allowed to complain when it's crap, thats a bad attitude.

I just wanted to say that the Cybertoad website is terrible, it's like something out of a nightmare.

[Junixx]

They cancelled us for no reason... We lost months of database data and records of members. You talk about chaos... We were put into chaos, our gaming servers relied on the mysql database and so just about anything else... It's been two months and we still haven't fully recovered. We just look like some crappy website and a crappy clan that means nothing and it's all thanks to this damn host.

I hope no hosting community ever does this... At least warn your clients...

You know what the excuse was? Multiple TOS violations, WE HAD PERMISSION DIRECTLY FROM SUPPORT TO DO ANYTHING WE WERE DOING TO AVOID THIS.

Cybertoad networks didn't even have the courtesy to respond to my e-mails...

Multiple TOS violations yea right! They kicked us because we were on a different plan than the one they have now.

EDIT** I knew the guy was crazy when I got support e-mails, he even claimed I was on some magic 'shrooms. But I never thought he would be heartless enough to pull something like this...

[h0ster]

You want to keep of the shrooms, or the mySQL databases will get you...

:P

[Galaxy-Hosts.com]

What about George Bush?



Since when was George Bush trying to get clients?

[h0ster]

maybe its a metaphor maybe clients could be ooooo lets sau VOTERS!.

[Wojtek]

shrooms make me turn off the pc and go outside
its an outdoors thing :)

[h0ster]

Not that i've ever taken any illegal substances* I would have to agree, I think, in theory*, that sitting at a computer screen would fry my brain on shrooms, of which i have never and will never partake*

lol

[Jovial]

ok now i also god neg rep for that
who ever that maybe just wait :P
i will be giving some gift back!
on april 1

[h0ster]

Aha, but you cant tell who gave it to you, sadly thats impossible.

[Sain Cai]

for the actual service, cybertoad is reliable, yet support blows. I do not like their CPanel either, its some java based crap, that only allows me to see 3 lines of code at a time. I know my java isnt the issue, since I have SUN Java's latest release and updated regularly.

Overall though I have no complaints, I just edit my site on another free server that has a regular CPanel (space and transfer are vastly different, which is why my site is still on cybertoad)

[Galaxy-Hosts.com]

maybe its a metaphor maybe clients could be ooooo lets sau VOTERS!. :wink2: I think it would be safe to say that there is no point in Bush trying to win votes. He can not even run for president again if he wanted to. :P