Can threads PLEASE stop getting closed?

[anhedonia]

Please stop locking threads just because you feel the discussion is too long. I have noticed a few threads being locked simply because they are "too long", not because anyone was arguing or getting personal, but simply because it is felt the debate has gone on for too long and no new conclusions will be reached. Kinda kills the General Discussions forum, a lot. :tired2:

[Jan]

Deja vu :p

http://www.freewebspace.net/forums/showthread.php?t=18163

[Galaxy-Hosts.com]

Sometimes the same point is made over and over. If there is nothing new being added to the discussion it becomes the equivalent of a spam thread. Not all closed threads are like this, but some are. if there is new information being added to a thread then I agree, leave it open. If there is not, there is no point in it staying open.

[Paul]

Why was this closed? http://www.freewebspace.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2186189

I really wanted to see what was going to happen

Edit:

If you dont like the way its going why not delete the posts that are off topic?, you got 4 new mods

[Jun Luzon]

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Some threads do need to be closed but I don't think closing just every thread because it doesn't fit your taste is a bad joke. Where's the "moderation" amongst the moderators?
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You're taking away the fun. What's left for us to hang around?
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kthnxby
So Long.
<! -- Miss you, Nealle! :beer: -->
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[Reider]

In before the lock.

[James]

Yeah I agree, threads are getting locked for fun and it's starting to piss me off.

[anhedonia]

Lol, didn't realise this had been moved and thought it had been deleted.

There about four threads deleted recently, and I think only one had a valid reason. It is very frustrating to be reading through a thread, not realising it's locked, and be formulating a reply only to find you can't.

Can we relax it a bit? It's getting kinda ridiculous.

The welcome to new mods thread is still open, and it is no more or less helpful than others that have been locked recently :P :lol:

[Darknight]

http://freewebspace.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2186397&page=5
http://freewebspace.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2185546&page=16
Them 2 annoy me most
Well There was another 2 that 2 new mods closed for no reason but I cant find them
They annoyed me too
Closing threads should only be used if requested or if it gets way out of control.

[krakjoe]

The one about guns pissed me off too, that was interesting to see the results of, and a perfectly reasonable topic for debate.

[Wojtek]

Mods got a complain from a certain individual about the gun thread.

Here's what I got:

may be you must check this thread... so scary... about kill someone with gun, knive, etc...

I wouldn't have closed it myself, but meh. Seems the majority of the mods agree that it needs to stay closed :)

[Paul]

So if I complain about the look of the site, they will automaticly change it?

[Craig]

I want mine back open (Jan knows which one), it shouldnt of been closed. Please open it & I would also like Jan to reply to my PM & state why it was closed in the first place.

[Paul]

If James' post about male and female was closed because of it being off-topic and people using it for post count, could we please get it moved to test things out. It was very interesting

[Craig]

Yeah I agree, threads are getting locked for fun and it's starting to piss me off.

100% agree, are these mods taking something or what?.

[Peo]

I understand your complaints about closing threads. I think in general threads should be kept open and just in rare cases be closed. So, I don't disagree with your views about this in general.

The gun threads got a little too heated and I see the same arguments coming up again. Maybe one could have been kept open with a warning that we should stay more civilized in discussing the topic. But I'm not sure it would have been possible. As for the male/female thread I think it was being used as a post count spam thread after a while and wasn't going to get back on track.

[Richard]

I and many other people requested that the "Do you have a gun in your house" thread be locked, it was getting out of hand.


... As for the male/female thread I think it was being used as a post count spam thread after a while and wasn't going to get back on track.

Then why not move it to the "Test things out" or have another forum that’s "Off-Topic" under the "General Discussions" forum, make it so we do not get any posts in that section.

Something needs to be done, the community needs a little fun/humor, and there was nothing wrong with that male/femail/nale thread.

[themoose]

Ones with debates, and proper posts, like the do you have a gun in your house shouldn't have been closed.. However I do agree with the "male/female" one, that was just filling up with spam posts.

Also, you shoud always post a reason why you closed the thread.

[d-j]

"Do you have a gun in your house" thread not cool anymore. I hate talk about war, gun/knife/(scissors?) for killing people.

But if the thread back to the track, only polling about "Do you have a gun in your house", it's fine..

no idea for another closed thread.. it's up to you buddies.. i just want talk about "Do you have a gun in your house" thread

[James]

I understand your complaints about closing threads. I think in general threads should be kept open and just in rare cases be closed. So, I don't disagree with your views about this in general.

The gun threads got a little too heated and I see the same arguments coming up again. Maybe one could have been kept open with a warning that we should stay more civilized in discussing the topic. But I'm not sure it would have been possible. As for the male/female thread I think it was being used as a post count spam thread after a while and wasn't going to get back on track.

Yes I agree when you said rare cases. But it's not rare at all.

But the whole point of a thread is for discussions, if things get heated, that's also part of a forum discussion, you can't have a forum full of only just happy, positive posts, that would be just plain boring.

Male/Female thread, I don't remember a single time when I actually thought it was being used by anybody as a post count spam thread. That's unfair judgement.

It's a "Lounge" forum, where your members are relaxing and chatting along and actually threads like these do a lot of good in members' relations IMO.

Anyhow closed is closed. We shall move on in one way or another. :knockedou

[themoose]

"Do you have a gun in your house" thread not cool anymore. I hate talk about war, gun/knife/(scissors?) for killing people.

But if the thread back to the track, only polling about "Do you have a gun in your house", it's fine..

no idea for another closed thread.. it's up to you buddies.. i just want talk about "Do you have a gun in your house" thread

If you don't agree with it & you don't want to get involved, don't go in that thread anymore.. simple.

[Darknight]

I and many other people requested that the "Do you have a gun in your house" thread be locked, it was getting out of hand.

If you call that "out of hand" you need a bit of life experence :D

I dont think it got "out of hand",
It was just a debate, Not even really heated
The most anyone got called was a fool etc
no swearing No talk of killing people no one said "IM GOING TO KILL YOU" etc



As for you last bit of post I agree, Make a offtopic forum that has no post count if it really upsets the forum owners that people are gaining postcount

not that post count really matters Who cares if people are gaining posts??

[Nug]

I agree, it seems that if threads go over 3 pages they get closed :(

I think the mods should give a warning before closing a thread, and always post why the closed it..

[d-j]

If you don't agree with it & you don't want to get involved, don't go in that thread anymore.. simple.

you're right.. :angel:

but if you see interested/strange title in thread, i'm sure you will go to it. :)

'gun' is cool thread in the beginning (i read it, and have fun for it), but not in 2 last pages. not in the track anymore... :(

[Darknight]

d-j, Yeah thats why you leave and ignore the thread - However instead of people doing that they report the thread.
I have never reported a thread, I have reported only newbie hosts posts that go against the rules of offering
and once or twice I have reported that a paid hosting request needed closing from ages ago that people keept posting offers in, thats all :D

[d-j]

d-j, Yeah thats why you leave and ignore the thread - However instead of people doing that they report the thread.
I have never reported a thread, I have reported only newbie hosts posts that go against the rules of offering
and once or twice I have reported that a paid hosting request needed closing from ages ago that people keept posting offers in, thats all :D

k... :angel:

[Craig]

I understand your complaints about closing threads. I think in general threads should be kept open and just in rare cases be closed. So, I don't disagree with your views about this in general.

The gun threads got a little too heated and I see the same arguments coming up again. Maybe one could have been kept open with a warning that we should stay more civilized in discussing the topic. But I'm not sure it would have been possible. As for the male/female thread I think it was being used as a post count spam thread after a while and wasn't going to get back on track.

Maybe you can pass this onto your mods/admins then. I for one want my thread opened again. It contained no ''fighting, violence etc etc''. Its ridiculous to think it was closed.

[Dan]

Maybe you can pass this onto your mods/admins then. I for one want my thread opened again. It contained no ''fighting, violence etc etc''. Its ridiculous to think it was closed.

Obviously others felt differently.
Feel free to open a new one if you wish. I would have no problem with that.

[allanh]

which thread are you referring to , Craig?

[Craig]

Obviously others felt differently.
Feel free to open a new one if you wish. I would have no problem with that.

Nope lol, why should I?, I'm waiting for a proper answer from Jan to the real reasons why it was closed. I didn't see any but I will wait until Jan responds to my PM for full details.

[Dan]

Nope lol, why should I?, I'm waiting for a proper answer from Jan to the real reasons why it was closed. I didn't see any but I will wait until Jan responds to my PM for full details.

Hi Craig,

I just sent you a PM and tried to explain it best I could.
Sorry for the inconvenience and hope my PM will explain it some bit for you.

[T^2]

I think some of the mods (new and old) aren't on the same page. This blitz of threads being closed comes shortly after 4 new mods arrived. :angel: Congrats to the mods and all but maybe Peo or someone should have an orientation or something.

I feel like I'm gonna get a warning or something now :eek2:

[Dan]

I think some of the mods (new and old) aren't on the same page. This blitz of threads being closed comes shortly after 4 new mods arrived. :angel: Congrats to the mods and all but maybe Peo or someone should have an orientation or something.

I feel like I'm gonna get a warning or something now :eek2:

*gives Tang a warning*
:P

lol. You are probably right.
Us new Mods are still learning the ropes from the existing Mods. :)

[Craig]

I feel like I'm gonna get a warning or something now :eek2:

Don't feel like that, we haven't done anything wrong ;).

Tooooo many threads are being closed, I put it down to lazy mods. They would rather close the thread than delete the posts that should be removed. Its ridiculous to think that people can be so lazy, I understand these mods volunteer there time but if they cant do the job right then they shouldn't be in this position in the first place, this is why this thread exists now. I hope Peo (who has agreed with what others are saying) has a talk with them. Am not pointing fingers, you know who you are.

Thanks Dan for the PM but I would rather wait for Jan to explain why it was closed (via PM).

[allanh]

I did not close any thread and as far as my observation goes, the rate/standard of thread closures has not changed since we came in

[T^2]

*gives Tang a warning*
:P

lol. You are probably right.
Us new Mods are still learning the ropes from the existing Mods. :)

Don't take me wrong, I welcome each and every one of the new mods. Guess the learning curve is steep; kinda like when I picked up unix...I still have a reference book within 30 seconds of me :p (I wasn't meant to be a programmer :(). :beer:

[Dan]

Don't take me wrong, I welcome each and every one of the new mods. Guess the learning curve is steep; kinda like when I picked up unix...I still have a reference book within 30 seconds of me :p (I wasn't meant to be a programmer :(). :beer:

It's cool bud.

Yes, it was only when we became Mods and saw the work that goes on behind the scenes, we have a lot to catch up with and the older Mods have a lot to be respected for.

[allanh]

imho, there is no right or wrong in closure of threads.

It's all subjective and in a game, refs (mod) are the ones calling the shots, unfortunately :)

[James]

IMO it killed the positive momentum I felt from FWS from the recent weeks.

Let's not argue about this anymore, if FWS staff wants its discussions/chat this way, it's their call.

If you want to chat about stuff, there are plenty of other forums out there. I'll stick my stuff here to offers and hosting talk.

[T^2]

imho, there is no right or wrong in closure of threads.

It's all subjective and in a game, refs (mod) are the ones calling the shots, unfortunately :)

...I humbly disagree strongly. Refs in a game hockey can still make a bad call and give a wrong penalty. There isn't anything as a player or fan you can do about it but you can talk to the League and have the call reviewed; should it be deemed a bad call by the League then the ref that made the call will receive a talk with the league.

P.S. that's a good attitude to life.

[T^2]

IMO it killed the positive momentum I felt from FWS from the recent weeks.

Let's not argue about this anymore, if FWS staff wants its discussions/chat this way, it's their call.

If you want to chat about stuff, there are plenty of other forums out there. I'll stick my stuff here to offers and hosting talk.

Agreed, :beer:

[alley]

I haven't closed any threads either.

[Galaxy-Hosts.com]

It is Peos forum and if he feels a thread needs to be closed he has the right to. Everyone has the right to express their feelings about it as well, he allows us to in the feedback forum. We contribute to these forums alot and sometimes feel like we have partial ownership, but at the end of the day they are still Peos. I for one am grateful that he provides this medium to us and our companies.
That said, I personally did not care for all the thread closings lately. But overall I think all the mods have done a good job, that is just a minor complaint.

[anhedonia]

I think some of the mods (new and old) aren't on the same page. This blitz of threads being closed comes shortly after 4 new mods arrived. :angel: Congrats to the mods and all but maybe Peo or someone should have an orientation or something.


Hmm, I slightly disagree here, the locking has got out of hand recently but I don't think it's just the new mods, or even mostly the new mods.

Is it going to relax a bit now?

[Peo]

It's a case by case thing. We got your message and it will be taken into account next time. Thanks to everybody for your feedback. Now, let's close this thread.

[Jun Luzon]

:redface:
Now, let's close this thread.

Aww! wait...
May I request an unlock to this thread, please. :caflag:
http://freewebspace.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2171936
:hide:
Just recently, the very moment I added a new word in it my post was deleted and locked.
Thought it could be fun to bring it alive. :redface:
:sheep:

[anhedonia]

Now, let's close this thread.

That is NOT funny Peo :P

:lol:

[heymrdj]

I have noticed one thing. Ever since we got the new mods, we have had a rash of closings. I think some people are just having some fun with the power. The "I can get the last word then close the thread so I have the last word" mentality.

[Dan]

I have noticed one thing. Ever since we got the new mods, we have had a rash of closings. I think some people are just having some fun with the power. The "I can get the last word then close the thread so I have the last word" mentality.

I doubt that very much to be honest. None of us are on Power Trips.
Peo makes the rules and it's up to the Mods to make sure they are enforced. If I see someone breaking the rules I act accordingly.
Same as thread closures. If I find that a thread should be closed, I will close it or I will approach one of the more experienced Mods such as Wojtek etc and ask for their opinions.
I doubt doing what we are Mods for, is being on a Power trip.

[heymrdj]

I doubt that very much to be honest. None of us are on Power Trips.
Peo makes the rules and it's up to the Mods to make sure they are enforced. If I see someone breaking the rules I act accordingly.
Same as thread closures. If I find that a thread should be closed, I will close it or I will approach one of the more experienced Mods such as Wojtek etc and ask for their opinions.
I doubt doing what we are Mods for, is being on a Power trip.

You still can't deny the rash of closing on purely legitimate conversations. Maby Peo should think about editing the rules with the clause "no conversations that could possibly take more than 3 pages to iron out* ?

[Dan]

You still can't deny the rash of closing on purely legitimate conversations. Maby Peo should think about editing the rules with the clause "no conversations that could possibly take more than 3 pages to iron out* ?

If the conversations are legitimate then they have no reason to be closed. As discussed a few posts back, threads are closed for a reason.

[Paul]

When a thread is closed could we have a reason why it was closed, So the mod is doing the last post in the topic before its closed

[heymrdj]

If the conversations are legitimate then they have no reason to be closed. As discussed a few posts back, threads are closed for a reason.

And that is the dangerous pair of words so commonly abused on this forum. :)

[Dan]

If you have a problem with the rules and how they are enforced, contact Peo or one of the other administrators. ;)

[Paul]

I don't have a problem with the rules, Its just the no reason given

[Wojtek]

People,

Please do not blame the new FWS mods, They are not to blame.
Complaints were received and were acted upon. I'm sure one of us 'old' mods would of done the same thing.
Even the owner of this forum feels the right thing was done.

We already have a discussion on this 'thread closure' topic in the Secret FWS Mod Lair forum ;)
Rest assured the best option will be taken to satisfy everyone equally.

[Darknight]

People,

Please do not blame the new FWS mods, They are not to blame.
Complaints were received and were acted upon. I'm sure one of us 'old' mods would of done the same thing.
Even the owner of this forum feels the right thing was done.

We already have a discussion on this 'thread closure' topic in the Secret FWS Mod Lair forum ;)
Rest assured the best option will be taken to satisfy everyone equally.

:lol: 007 style!

[Matt8]

Don't listen to Wojtek...its actually all my fault in a rage of power hunger that I had last night. All your threads belong to us, and all that jazz.

;-)

I am personally not a fan with closing threads either, but when complaints are made, sometimes you have to obey, even if some of the board doesn't agree with them.

If I can, I do want to point out how much work moderating is. As a long time member of this board, I thought it wouldn't be a big undertaking, as I read everything anyway, but there is so much more to consider and think about. While I know most of you are stressed and annoyed at the issues, don't forget to thank those old timers behind the green names. If you guys had any idea how much work they actually do behind the scenes, you'd wet yourself.

I know, because I did.

[Jun Luzon]

I know, because I did.

Guilty!!!
(Stone to death!!!) :lol:

[Matt8]

Talk about quoting out of context! Make me look like the bad guy, huh?

[Jan]

You know what I am seeing here? Those in a huff because their thread got closed, agree that the others should have been, but not their own. :confused:

[Jan]

When a thread is closed could we have a reason why it was closed, So the mod is doing the last post in the topic before its closed
And then we get this?

I think some people are just having some fun with the power. The "I can get the last word then close the thread so I have the last word" mentality.
I guess we can't please everyone. :tired2:

[Paul]

Mods got a complain from a certain individual about the gun thread.

Here's what I got:

may be you must check this thread... so scary... about kill someone with gun, knive, etc...


I wouldn't have closed it myself, but meh. Seems the majority of the mods agree that it needs to stay closed :)

You pleased one, but not all

If they did'nt like it then they should not read it

[Jun Luzon]

Talk about quoting out of context! Make me look like the bad guy, huh?


Nah, everybody knows you're a good guy, mate.
Else I wouldn't even dare to in the first place. :D

[Darknight]

And then we get this?

I guess we can't please everyone. :tired2:

No I have noticed that too,
Instead of giving a reason the Mod will give there point of view then close it
Thats more annoying than closing it
If you feel the need to post befor closing it shouldnt it be a reason why and not personal thoughts?

Just my 2 cents on where heymrdj is coming from.

[anhedonia]

You know what I am seeing here? Those in a huff because their thread got closed, agree that the others should have been, but not their own. :confused:

No, that's just silly.. Although some people here are complaining about it because THEIR thread got closed, but that is certainly not the case with everyone.

Unless there is swearing, personal abuse, sexually degrading/pornographic material, I don't see the need for threads to get closed. If something goes off topic, does it really matter all THAT much, as long as the discussion is kept clean? I was under the impression that's what 'General Discussion' was for .. debating, going off on a tangent, exploring issues. I would personally like to see the Virginia shooting thread reopened, as there was some interesting points of view and debating happening there..

It received this final post from Jan:


Quote:
Originally Posted by Jun Luzon View Post
Keeps me wondering why this debate doesn't seem to end.
It just did.

We could debate the issue indefinitely, but the reality is 32 innocent people died at the hands of a gunman. I sincerely hope they rest in peace. Condolences to their families, friends, school mates, families of similar crimes and anyone else who is affected by this in any way. I think it has reached world wide proportions of people affected, one way or another.

*

And then was closed. Very frustrating when I for one had been reading through and was formulating a reply/speculation in regards to what others had to say. There have been numerous other threads just in the last week or so, too, that have been closed under similar circumstances.

[allanh]

I have noticed one thing. Ever since we got the new mods, we have had a rash of closings. I think some people are just having some fun with the power. .

I think this unfounded accusation is a huge insult to all the moderators who work hard to keep the forum running.
:devious2:

[Craig]

You know what I am seeing here? Those in a huff because their thread got closed, agree that the others should have been, but not their own. :confused:

Nope, not at all.

I don't think its the new mods. I think as they are new they would be too scared to close a thread at the moment in case they shouldn't. This issue is down to the old timers :p.

Its also rude not to reply to someones private message. I expected more from yourself. At least Dan has the respect to send me a PM giving reasons but even though I thank him for that I expect yourself to give the reasons as your the one who closed it in the first place.

I again request it to be opened & a reply to my PM. What are you trying to avoid?

Thank you.

[Darknight]

When I first joined up I made this,
http://freewebspace.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2177969

Please relook at the idea
ITS NOT FOR PORN BUT FOR REASONS LIKE THIS that it would be a good idea
15+ with a warning saying some posts may be offencivie as this forum is less modarated if you dont agree with something said please leave this forum Etc.... ends the issues of people complaining about threads and ends the issues of people complain about closing threads.
Make it a none post count forum too so "spamish" posts dont matter.

That idea solves every issue everyone has just been winging about including me :p

[James]

I have noticed one thing. Ever since we got the new mods, we have had a rash of closings. I think some people are just having some fun with the power. .

Totally.


I think this unfounded accusation is a huge insult to all the moderators who work hard to keep the forum running.
:devious2:

I wouldn't say it's unfounded.

[anhedonia]

I think this unfounded accusation is a huge insult to all the moderators who work hard to keep the forum running.
:devious2:

I don't, for one minute, want to accuse you guys of doing a bad job or insult the mods.. In fact, you could almost say that some mod/s have been doing TOO good a job :P .

May I ask, Craig, what thread you are referring to that was closed? (Sorry if the link is here already, I read a lot at work and miss stuff sometimes :-) )

[Peo]

internalx:

We have "The longest thread ever" where we don't really moderate unless someone is spamming, attacking other members or someone reports a post.

General discussions needs to be moderated. Removing the post count from that section didn't work when we tried it some years ago. Less members posted and it became less active. If we have General discussions where posts count and another section where posts don't count and aren't being moderatad actively, I think most people will be posting in General discussions anyway. I could be wrong about that, but that's my 2 cents.

[Darknight]

Peo, I didnt say a thread I said a forum Or a subforum
1 Thread cant handle everything!
I think a offtopic forums would be the way to goo with or without postcount
Since latley to be honest General discussions has become really crap

Post count is meaning less it is there to say how many posts you have posted
It seems Od to me on why it upsets people so much they need to remove posts and close threads becuse its become "spamish"

I know that ones only one of the reasons threads get closed but to me, well it seems a very pointless one

You could always have a 4 week trial on a offtopic forums and see if it gets used and what happens then decide at the end of it

Either way Fact remains that peoples threads are getting closed against there wishes
When alot of the time the OP hasnt even done anything wrong it was just some other person,
I also think that if the OP dont mind the thread getting offtopic then there really is no issue with it


Just ideas anyway

Cya :)

[utcrazy]

I think the new mods are just getting carried away, they'll find the right groove eventually.

[allanh]

I would like to see anyone producing some real evidence of new moderators closing more threads than old moderators.

[Dan]

I think the new mods are just getting carried away, they'll find the right groove eventually.

Silly statement. Please prove that.

[heymrdj]

Silly statement. Please prove that.

Wish we could. But the admin has it set up so that it doesn't show who closed threads, which is also rediculous, because blame can't be put where it needs to be when wrongs are done.

[Dan]

Wish we could. But the admin has it set up so that it doesn't show who closed threads, which is also rediculous, because blame can't be put where it needs to be when wrongs are done.

So what you guys are saying is, since us new mods came on board, threads are being locked and no threads were being locked before then?
Get real bud.

I haven't locked a thread since the first day.

[heymrdj]

So what you guys are saying is, since us new mods came on board, threads are being locked and no threads were being locked before then?
Get real bud.

I haven't locked a thread since the first day.

Not like you to bend the words that people say. Threads have always been locked, there is just a rash of locking now. It just so happens that we took on new mods, and these closings started happening. Could be coincidence, but it also may not be.

Some of the admins and mods on here take the foolish, prideful, and self-arrogant view that this is "my forum and we'll do as we please." Its like it is mis-understood that when you own a forum, you are for the most part a slave to your members. Now the request of the members is fairly simple. To stop being such tenderfoots and allow some articles to be discussed. It is your duty as an owner of the forum (the admins that is) to listen to the requests of the members, and act not according to their feelings, but according to what is best for the forums population. So I recommend that instead of slighting off this thread, some genuine discussion actually happens for once on the forum, and the dispute gets resolved.

PS: Nugi, I'd appreciate it if instead of posting baby remarks like "Jeez ur an idiot/ Nugi" in my reputation system, that you actually have the gall and come in here and post that. Then again, you're probably ignoring that because you would get negative rep as well. You act like a coward, and in in every thread we have disputed in, you have continued to act as a coward. I guess in the end that's all you'll ever be to this forum.

[Darknight]

well - I dont think its the new mods, I seen a cpl of threads been closed by the new mods but this has been going on for ages, Threads being closed etc
Been going on for so long if you read jans first post in this thread click on the link - it takes you to the same complaint in 2002 - So this isnt a new issue and anyone thats blamming the new mods is crazy!

[Matt8]

I can confirm that only a few, and I literally mean two, maybe three threads have been closed by the new mods.

And with that, I am done with this thread. Not going anywhere positive.

[heymrdj]

I can confirm that only a few, and I literally mean two, maybe three threads have been closed by the new mods.

And with that, I am done with this thread. Not going anywhere positive.

Well finally someone gives us some numbers.

[Darknight]

Yes - This thread has become quite pointless I think everyone knows now that ALOT of people are unhappy with so many threads being closed we should all just wait untill the mods finsh talking about it amonst them selves and come up with a idea

IF someone locks this thread - Could you please post a outcome when you come to a understanding on how to fix the issue, I would, like many others like to know whats going to be done about all this thread locking!

Thanks

[heymrdj]

Yes - This thread has become quite pointless I think everyone knows now that ALOT of people are unhappy with so many threads being closed we should all just wait untill the mods finsh talking about it amonst them selves and come up with a idea

IF someone locks this thread - Could you please post a outcome when you come to a understanding on how to fix the issue, I would, like many others like to know whats going to be done about all this thread locking!

Thanks

Sounds like a fine resolution to me :beer: . Nugi might disagree though. :fangel:

[Matt8]

There is no reason right now for this thread to be locked as long as it does not become an "us versus them" against the mods.

This thread in all reality however, has served its purpose and the end result should be obvious. Have you seen many closed threads lately? Do you have any new examples to bring to the table that the problem is still occurring post this thread?

This issue has been discussed in the fortress of solitude for the mods/admins and we have taken steps to ensure this isn't a continued problem.

Unless you have a new suggestion, there is no reason to continue the debate. We have HEARD, comprehended, discussed, and considered your requests about locking future topics.

[heymrdj]

There is no reason right now for this thread to be locked as long as it does not become an "us versus them" against the mods.

This thread in all reality however, has served its purpose and the end result should be obvious. Have you seen many closed threads lately? Do you have any new examples to bring to the table that the problem is still occurring post this thread?

This issue has been discussed in the fortress of solitude for the mods/admins and we have taken steps to ensure this isn't a continued problem.

Unless you have a new suggestion, there is no reason to continue the debate. We have HEARD, comprehended, discussed, and considered your requests about locking future topics.

I wish I had a Fortress of Solitude. With autofiring ban stick minigun turrets. :lol:

But seriously, thanks for the reply Matt.

[Dan]

I locked a total of maybe 2 threads that I felt needed closing. One of them was a hosting request that was like 3 months old that a host posted an offer in.

A suggestion was made by one of the other Mods where we give a "3 strikes" rule, where topics that are getting out of hand, we post 3 warnings in that thread and if they don't stop or ignore the warnings given, we lock it.
Would that make you all feel better?

heymrdj, I totally understand where you are coming from and am not completely disagreeing with what you are saying. But what you need to understand is a few things:

1. Peo and the other Admins make the rules. We just enforce them as Moderators are meant to do.

2. With a community this large, threads and posts can't be left to go too far out of hand. If we let one off and lock another, we are still going to get bashed for it.

3. If there are issues with the rules etc, as said before more than once, you need to contact Peo, Jan or one of the Admins via the contact page and raise your issues with them.

There is no real point in confronting a Moderator or Moderators etc openly on the forum because it will lead to arguments and bad feeling, which is something none of us want.

Cheers,
Dan

[T^2]

Okay, sounds good. Like in all political systems, I just hope that this carries through to more than a few days or weeks and that we've done some good for the community.

And no one was really saying that it was the new mods that made the closures but the timeline of the closures simply collide directly with the time when the new mods came into power. Simple fact.

Thanks for listening :)

[Darknight]

There is no reason right now for this thread to be locked as long as it does not become an "us versus them" against the mods.

This thread in all reality however, has served its purpose and the end result should be obvious. Have you seen many closed threads lately? Do you have any new examples to bring to the table that the problem is still occurring post this thread?

This issue has been discussed in the fortress of solitude for the mods/admins and we have taken steps to ensure this isn't a continued problem.

Unless you have a new suggestion, there is no reason to continue the debate. We have HEARD, comprehended, discussed, and considered your requests about locking future topics.

:cheers: that clears alot up thanks :D

[James]

There's no denying that there's been some mistakes, crap/wrong decisions recently.

But as I learnt, there's no point in complaining either even with ridiculous situations, because nothing else will be done about it. Hence point made, there's nothing you can do about it.

Just let the mods/staff do what heck they want to do. If you are a host, post some offers and talk about free hosting. There's not much else to FWS.

[Matt8]

James,

Apparently my post above went unnoticied. Perhaps I shall quote a portion of it again.



This issue has been discussed in the fortress of solitude for the mods/admins and we have taken steps to ensure this isn't a continued problem.

Unless you have a new suggestion, there is no reason to continue the debate. We have HEARD, comprehended, discussed, and considered your requests about locking future topics.

I will state it again, the issue is being addressed. If you have any new examples, please present them. Otherwise, let this thread, and issue, die so we all can move on with our happy lives ;-)

[heymrdj]

There's no denying that there's been some mistakes, crap/wrong decisions recently.

But as I learnt, there's no point in complaining either even with ridiculous situations, because nothing else will be done about it. Hence point made, there's nothing you can do about it.

Just let the mods/staff do what heck they want to do. If you are a host, post some offers and talk about free hosting. There's not much else to FWS.

Prophet of Doom. :cry2:

[TSO]

Thanks for making a change! I had noticed this, too, but was too chicken to speak up. :p

[Galaxy-Hosts.com]

We got your message and it will be taken into account next time. Thanks to everybody for your feedback. Peo and the other admins say they will be closing threads less often. Maybe we should quit complaining and see if they follow thru. Also there is no reason to be pointing fingers at new mods (or old ones) unless you know who closed the thread. All the "I thinks" and "its seems" statements are not necessary and will only cause hard feleings. Come on, lighten up, lets give them a chance.

[Dan]

Peo and the other admins say they will be closing threads less often. Maybe we should quit complaining and see if they follow thru. Also there is no reason to be pointing fingers at new mods (or old ones) unless you know who closed the thread. All the "I thinks" and "its seems" statements are not necessary and will only cause hard feleings. Come on, lighten up, lets give them a chance.

Thanks Patrick.
I will say that, all Mods and Admins are currently voting on a new system. 2 warnings and the thread gets closed type thing. I think this will be fair and most of you will appreciate it more. :)

[anhedonia]

Sounds great.

Also, would it be beneficial to have the mod who is closing the thread state their name/why briefly? This could result in some flaming at the mod, though.. Hm.. It's a tough one. I know some mods are putting their names on some threads that they have, closed etc.

Anyway let's see how we go! Things seem to have improved already :)

[Wojtek]

Also, would it be beneficial to have the mod who is closing the thread state their name/why briefly?
The reason will clearly be stated when the 2 warnings will be given.

Mod1 could give the 1st warning, Mod2 the 2nd and Mod3 will close with the 3rd. It's a cooperative effort and no single moderator will be blamed.

Now let's put this topic to rest and have fun :)

[Jun Luzon]

There's no denying that there's been some mistakes, crap/wrong decisions recently.

But as I learnt, there's no point in complaining either even with ridiculous situations, because nothing else will be done about it. Hence point made, there's nothing you can do about it.

Just let the mods/staff do what heck they want to do. If you are a host, post some offers and talk about free hosting. There's not much else to FWS.

TRUE.



Now let's put this topic to rest and have fun :)

:confused4

[anhedonia]

He means, there's no point continuing to discuss this. The issue has been looked at and changes are being made when/if necessary, etc. :classic2:

So there is no need to discuss this anymore. That's all :) But it hasn't been locked yet, but only new replies should be made if needed, which they shouldn't be for a while as the mods have addressed the issue for us :)

[Jan]

But as I learnt, there's no point in complaining either even with ridiculous situations, because nothing else will be done about it. Hence point made, there's nothing you can do about it.
We have always listened to suggestions, and made changes accordingly if it was a feasible suggestion. Not all demands and suggestions are feasible, but we do listen. The popularity of the forum indicates we must be doing something right.

[James]

Alright Jan, fair enough..

Apologize if I sounded stiff before.

[GeorgeB]

I would like to add my .02 to all of this if possible. First off all I want to make it apparent that I am not trying to act like a goody goody two shoe.

I am a member of this forum and visit it as often as possible. Even though I am not as smart as most of you are in the hosting industry, I did at one point own my own communications company that dealt with in the hosting world. So I do know some of things that can and cannot be offered. I sometimes view the hosting parts of this forum and see offers with "unlimited space/bandwith", I am sorry, but there is no such thing. There is things called "unmetered" as I have seen some top companies that offer this. You know why they can offer it? They have so many data servers, etc that it isn't a problem for them.

Take a look at google.com or yahoo.com or msn.com ,etc, etc they litterally have hundreds of thousands to millions of data servers all over the world. How do I know this? I have been in most of their data centers and have seen it first hand.

I am also the Administrator/Super Moderator/Moderator to several forums, and as Matt8 said earlier in this thread, there is ALOT that goes on behind the scenes of any forum. Especially one as big as FWS.NET I am sure.

On a few of my forums, I am constantly moving threads, etc. Some of you, I am sure probably own a forum or two for what ever reason, so with that being said, you should know the kind of work that goes on "behind the scenes"

I agree, that 2 of the new moderators that are on here, I personally have never seen before until they did become moderators. However, regardless I have talked with both Jan and Peo several times in the past via PM regarding issues for this forum, or warning that have been given to me, etc. They have always responded in a professional manner, and so forth.

As many have said before, PEO is the owner of FWS.NET and yes, maybe some changes should be made, but instead of accusing people of wrong doing, etc, just simply make a thread about it, and kindly suggest something to them.

Have a good day everyone and just remember "Not everything in the world, is worth getting all bent out of shape over"