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alley
August 12th, 2007, 19:43
3 Killed in Mo. Church Shooting

Sunday, August 12, 2007
NEOSHO, Mo. - A gunman opened fire in the sanctuary of a southwest Missouri church Sunday, killing three people and wounding several others, authorities said.

About 25 to 50 people were briefly held hostage at the First Congregational Church until the gunman surrendered, Neosho spokeswoman Desiree Bridges said.

About four or five people were wounded, Police Chief Dave McCracken said, but several others who were injured fled the scene.

The shooter was being held at the Newton County Jail, but police were not releasing any information about him. Bridges said he was related to someone in the church, but declined to elaborate. No charges had been filed Sunday, McCracken said.

The gunman had two small-caliber handguns and one 9 mm semiautomatic machine pistol with a large magazine, McCracken said. The shooting followed the 1 p.m. service, which is held in Spanish. About 50 people, ranging in age from children to the elderly, were in the church at the time.

The gunman surrendered to authorities after about 10 minutes of negotiation.

"At the time that the rescue attempt was successful we had approximately 20 people in the sanctuary still," he said. "We had some people who escaped the crime scene prior to the police arrival that were wounded, and we had some people escape during the process and at the time of the rescue."

He said no one was injured during the arrest.

McCracken said he could not confirm whether the gunman was a member of the church. But he said an incident involving the suspect and a family that attended the First Congregational Church on Saturday night fueled the shooting Sunday.

"At this point though, we don't have any information more than that," McCracken said.

The identities of the deceased were being withheld, McCracken said.

Decker
August 12th, 2007, 19:54
People are generally okay if left alone, groups of people are a potential 'mob', coutries are a potential 'enemy'.

Shall I stop now?

No? Take one person and screw them up. You get an assailent, not a person.

The world is fine, the ones in charge of what happens are not, simple math.

Add having to work hard to keep the world (your world) going - to - paying for your way and having simple rewards - equals - you don't get it cause we say so. Causes a great deal of problems.

What was your take on the report Alley?

alley
August 12th, 2007, 19:59
I don't know ..just another senceless killing I guess.

The part that bothered me was the way the press said "9 mm semiautomatic machine pistol " ..lol
They make is sound like it was a full automatic machine gun to people that don't know anything about guns.

Decker
August 12th, 2007, 20:04
The part that bothered me was the way the press said "9 mm semiautomatic machine pistol " ..lol
They make is sound like it was a full automatic machine gun to people that don't know anything about guns.

It's as good as Alley, usually just slower rate. Any 9mm weapon is usually a kill, if wounded run, drop or hide. If not hit don't wait.

alley
August 12th, 2007, 20:12
I know ..It's a good round.
I just know the press and government are trying to take our guns away any way they can so they always try and make the weapons sound worse than they are. They won't be happy until the only thing we have to defend ourselves with is a pitch fork.

I mean he could of went in there with a baseball bat and killed more than 3 people.

Blank Verse
August 13th, 2007, 17:06
I gotta say, I like the kind of well rounded philisophical look this thread has taken on, seeing as it really had the potential for three pages worth of "oh this is awful" over and over and over again.

Decker
August 14th, 2007, 09:05
Kinda makes a nice, almost comforting change doesn't it!

alley
August 14th, 2007, 09:37
Well it is awful - some butthole killing people in a Church, but America is becoming so violent that people are starting to get immune to it all. That's pretty bad when unless 20 or more people are killed nobody really makes a big deal out of it anymore. I mean this is bad , but we have kids going in to schools opening fire on other kids. What has this Country become?

A Church is a sacred place .. even the immortals in the movie/series "The Highlander" knew better than to do battle in there. Well I know where he's going in the end. I hope he does.

Decker
August 14th, 2007, 10:21
:fangel: think BV's point was that post hadn't happened yet alley and it was a nice change.

iBrightDev
August 14th, 2007, 11:10
Well it is awful - some butthole killing people in a Church, but America is becoming so violent that people are starting to get immune to it all. That's pretty bad when unless 20 or more people are killed nobody really makes a big deal out of it anymore. I mean this is bad , but we have kids going in to schools opening fire on other kids. What has this Country become?

A Church is a sacred place .. even the immortals in the movie/series "The Highlander" knew better than to do battle in there. Well I know where he's going in the end. I hope he does.

yeah, the shooter is definitely going to hell now. :P

anyways, yeah, i really dont see how someone can do something like that. makes you wonder what happened to them as a child to have messed them up so much in the head that they feel they need to go kill innocent people.

@Jeff, good point on the gun being described as a 9mm semiautomatic machine pistol. lol, WTF is that. some new imaginary gun? lol. it is simply a 9mm semiautomatics pistol, NOT MACHINE. haha. stupid press.

anyways, i hope they hang this ------- up by the testicles.

Decker
August 14th, 2007, 12:40
@Jeff, good point on the gun being described as a 9mm semiautomatic machine pistol. lol, WTF is that. some new imaginary gun? lol. it is simply a 9mm semiautomatics pistol, NOT MACHINE. haha. stupid press.

That just opens up a debate for the gun club!

iBrightDev
August 14th, 2007, 12:41
well, I love guns, but, to each their own.