Marijuana Legalization

[Chris L.]

Marijuana is illegal in the US, with the exception of Medical Marijuana when prescribed by a Dr. in a state that allows it.

Do you think it should be 100% legal? [Why / Why not]

To be honest, this is a fishing expedition for arguments to use in my paper that I have to write in English.

[Keagle]

You have to write arguments in English? Why not Russian or Chinese?

Okay, that was lame (The 'joke'). No - because unless something big/urgent happens it's fine as it is. That's really not helpful - eh?

[themoose]

I think it should be because then much greater control will be put on what's sold, right now anything goes basically.

It's also less harmful than tabacco & alcohol.

[Darknight]

I think it should be legal, Save me having to search for it...
I could then just walk in to a store and say 1oz of skunk please.
Id love it, You would be able to buy all differnt types of weed OTC at servos!
Hand over the money and leave. Its WIN WIN! - I dont really smoke it that much anymore to care, But:

it would reduce drug related crime, Becuse it would be cheeper everyone would be supplying it!
The only reason it isnt legal in most countrys is becuse the goverments cant make money out of it, You can grow it yourself... Yes you can grow tabacco but it tastes like ---- without going through a factory process....
Weed dont need to go through any process other than drying...
So everyone would grow it and the goverment would make noting!!!!!

[Decker]

There is for and against, nothing really proves it's safe for recreational use so I won't enter into that part. However for theraputic reasons as a painkiller/remedy for illness then it should be on a prescribed basis.

[Nug]

I think it should become a legal, no one doesn't smoke it because it's ilegal, and it being legal would stop a lot of crime..

[Craig]

People will use it, abuse it and lose it!. Nough said!.

[Nug]

People will use it, abuse it and lose it!. Nough said!.

People do that even though it's illegal..

[Craig]

People do that even though it's illegal..

Yea but making it legal will cause more to do the same.

[themoose]

No, like nugi said, in places like england and denmark people aren't afraid to use it because of the laws (theyre pretty weak) - it doesn't factor in when somebody's deciding to smoke it.

And it's pretty damnd hard to abuse weed.

[Darknight]

Its all about having the choice I think, You should be allowed to decide what you do! There is no need to conrol things like weed, Its like taking away all the beer really... Same thing, Err grog is worse IMO, Alot more people suffer from issues with it, Including going off there heads when they are drunk, You dont see this with weed... There are contrys where pot is legal and they get along fine...


No, like nugi said, in places like england and denmark people aren't afraid to use it because of the laws (theyre pretty weak) - it doesn't factor in when somebody's deciding to smoke it.

And it's pretty damnd hard to abuse weed.
Same in Australia, laws are so weak you can stay out of jail even if you get busted with 10 pound of it...
Its not the sort of thing you worrie about when using it,

[Blank Verse]

I used to smoke a lot of weed, and have since quit. It's just not what I want to be spending my money on. Regardless, I have no problem with pot, and I think the fact that it's still illegal is ridiculous.

For one, as Craig alluded to, if alcohol and tobacco is potentially harmful to you, and it's legal, why is marijuana illegal when it's less harmful?

It would take it off the streets. You wouldn't have to worry about going to buy some pot and having it laced with something more severe. If it were legal, you could buy it from a trusted vendor where it had been inspected before being sold.

Sending pot dealers to jail is a ridiculous waste of prison resources.

Pot smoking leads to a stronger economy through increased sales of Doritos, candy, Gatorade, and cookies. :p

[Ben]

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Pot smoking leads to a stronger economy through increased sales of Doritos, candy, Gatorade, and cookies. :p

...and Chinese food.

[Matt8]

I don't see any reason its illegal. We could legalize it, tax and regulate it, and it would stop so many drug related crimes.

[Ben]

I don't see any reason its illegal. We could legalize it, tax and regulate it, and it would stop so many drug related crimes.

And many perceived crimes.

[Wojtek]

Everyone's who is favor of legalizing it is just a pot smoking hippy :p

Seriously now, legal or illegal wouldn't change people's consumption.
Sure in the first few months that it'd become legal alot more people would smoke it, more openly that is, creating the illusion that it's usage has increased, but in the long term I think usage would remain pretty much similar as to what it is today.

Prices would however increase imo, as the gov would tax the hell out of it.
In return it's availability would be greater, and obtaining rare strains would be easier. And you'll have a neat packaging that comes with the purchase :p

I wouldn't grow it though. My light usage does not justify spending money on creating a grow room in my house.


As for drug crimes, I don't think they'd be so much reduced.
Nobody kills for an ounce of grass. More like 5 pounds of coke.

[Matt8]

I look at it in relation to America's past prohibition on Alcohol:
Organized Crime saw its birth due to racketerring and smuggling and many reports and historians even say that drinking generally happened more than when it was legal.

[Dini]

It's also less harmful than tabacco & alcohol.

Are you sure about that? Eitherway, I wouldn't like to feel that awful smell everywhere I go, plus high people look like dumbasses

[Ben]

Are you sure about that? Eitherway, I wouldn't like to feel that awful smell everywhere I go, plus high people look like dumbasses

The smell is gone after a several minutes. Unlike cigarettes. And people look like dumbasses when they're plastered, too. Public intoxication ftl?

[utcrazy]

I think the government could really profit from legalizing pot, it's definitely a good idea. I mean really, what Canadian hasn't done pot. It's not something that is even bad for you. It's just as harmful as smoking.

[Decker]

The smell is gone after a several minutes
Nah not really it's not.

It's just as harmful as smoking
It is the same as but with different chemicals given off due to pyrolisation.

For all the agruements it's never 'really' been proven harmless, and for those who think it only results in a 'mellow' personality effect - stop smoking it indoors and mix with others, you'll see that's not 100% true :fangel:

The cookie makers got it more correct in that the harmfull effects of burning it directly and inhaling the product doesn't happen.

100% :angel: me - just a non-informed opinion of course! Cough!

[Dan]

I think it should be legalised for a few reasons:

1. as Colin said, it is less harmful that tobacco and alcohol
2. People seem to be more mellow than what they would with harder drugs such as alcohol
3. Krakjoe could have more :D

[Decker]

I think it should be legalised for a few reasons:

1. as Colin said, it is less harmful that tobacco and alcohol
2. People seem to be more mellow than what they would with harder drugs such as alcohol
3. Krakjoe could have more :D

1. Unproven.
2. I mellow with alcihol Hic! (yes really!)
3. No arguments there.

[bigperm]

I know this sounds crazy... but I say keep it illegal.

Pot smokers are unsuccessful, and should be made to feel like criminals if they aren't going to be doing anything with their life.

There is a direct correlation between when my friends stopped smoking pot and how much money they make right now. From stopped 3 years ago (making the most money) to still smoking right now as I type this (working 20 hours a week for nothing in a crap restaurant.) I fall somewhere in the middle.

Don't smoke weed. Work Hard.

My account did not get hijacked, this is really how I feel now.

[Wojtek]

Perm's girlfriend is pregnant.
That explains his change of thoughts :p

[Chris L.]

TBH, I havn't ever smoked pot. If it were legal, I would try it at least once. I don't like the feeling of being high. When I was diagnosed with ADHD w/out hyperactivity the dr told me to take way too much Adderal. I was too messed up and pretty much gone for a week (I kept taking 40mg it every 12 hours like the Dr. told me). I decided to stop taking it after a few weeks so I could function. Now I just drink a lot of Coffee instead of taking Adderal.

[themoose]

Are you sure about that?
yes

[Blank Verse]

I know this sounds crazy... but I say keep it illegal.

Pot smokers are unsuccessful, and should be made to feel like criminals if they aren't going to be doing anything with their life.

There is a direct correlation between when my friends stopped smoking pot and how much money they make right now. From stopped 3 years ago (making the most money) to still smoking right now as I type this (working 20 hours a week for nothing in a crap restaurant.) I fall somewhere in the middle.

Don't smoke weed. Work Hard.

My account did not get hijacked, this is really how I feel now.


Valid point, but by that token, you could make a case to make alcohol ilegal as well, because being an alcoholic is not going to help you get ahead in life anyway.

[bigperm]

Valid point, but by that token, you could make a case to make alcohol ilegal as well, because being an alcoholic is not going to help you get ahead in life anyway.
Alchohol has more varying degrees of use. From social drinker --> raging alchoholic there is a huge divide that most people fall into.

People who smoke weed, 10% do it every once in a while and the other 90% do it all the time.

[Darknight]

People who smoke weed, 10% do it every once in a while and the other 90% do it all the time.

Have you any proof that these numbers are correct? Or did you just pull them out of your head?

[Blank Verse]

Actually, I'd say that's correct, but I don't really see how the whole percentage of people doing it falls into play. It's just circumstance. There are people who don't do drugs or alcohol, or tobacco, or anything who are also complete ---- ups.

[bigperm]

Actually, I'd say that's correct, but I don't really see how the whole percentage of people doing it falls into play. It's just circumstance. There are people who don't do drugs or alcohol, or tobacco, or anything who are also complete ---- ups.
This was in response to what you said (quoted below). You said:

Valid point, but by that token, you could make a case to make alcohol ilegal as well, because being an alcoholic is not going to help you get ahead in life anyway.
No, being an alchoholic wont, but drinking on weekends with people (like most people do) won't have an effect either way. I was trying to point out that you can't make the same case for alchohol because the degrees of use are different. Oh god I don't want to keep repeating myself.


Have you any proof that these numbers are correct? Or did you just pull them out of your head?

I guess I don't have any 'proof', but you have to believe me I guess. I was in the 'scene' for a long time, and these are the facts as I see them. I say it's easier to take my numbers with a smaller grain of salt that the 'it's less harmful than alchohol/tobacco/heroin/yu-gi-oh' that's floating aroung this thread.

[Blank Verse]

I understand your point. You're saying that as far as alcohol is concerned, there are far more causal drinkers who aren't harming themselves on alcohol than there are alcoholics, whereas, the majority of pot smokers blaze several times a day, and very few only smoke once or twice on the weekend.

Therefore, pot should be illegal because it correlates to more people ----ing up their lives than there is with alcoholics, that the majority is following a downward trend. I'm not sure it's a cut and dry as that. Certainly weed has the ability to lessen one's motivation to do things, but like I said, some people just can't be motivated anyway. I don't think there's a general rule of thumb to apply to pot smoking and success in life, it varies from person to person.

[bigperm]

Dear Blank Verse,

I am unable to argue on the internet with you anymore. You actually understand my point, and put forth a reasonable counter-arguement. I can't be having that.


All formalities aside, you're right... but as far as the legal/illegal aspect of pot is concerned, I think (know) it will do more harm then good to legalize it. You want to verify the integrity of people who smoke pot all the time? Sorry, like you said it's got to be on a person to person basis. If you can get high all the time, and become successful (and I am not denying this is possible) then imagine what you could accomplish without it? That was the lesson I had to learn, and if pot was legal, I would have never bothered.

[Blank Verse]

Touche. And a dumb person is even dumber on pot. I tend to not want to validate anyone's integrity, stoned or not, because I'm quite sure the majority of people have none anyway. Certainly smoking weed is not going to help anyone gain any.

[bigperm]

Alright guys, clear out, Blank Verse and I have figured it all out. Thread over.

[Decker]

Have you any proof that these numbers are correct? Or did you just pull them out of your head?

Just like all statisticians do!

Did you know over 40% of statistics can be proven to be true :-) - statistically.

[Tree]

Once pot was legalized in The Netherlands, usage actually dropped a couple of percentage points.

[Nug]

Once pot was legalized in The Netherlands, usage actually dropped a couple of percentage points.

I guess a lot of people just do it because its fun to do something ilegal.

[Tree]

Yep. Just to be a badarse. Those are generally the people that are no fun to smoke with.

[Cam.]

I think it should become legal, And if idiots wanna go and waste their money and kill their brain then they should be free to do so.

[krakjoe]

I know this sounds crazy... but I say keep it illegal.

Pot smokers are unsuccessful, and should be made to feel like criminals if they aren't going to be doing anything with their life.

There is a direct correlation between when my friends stopped smoking pot and how much money they make right now. From stopped 3 years ago (making the most money) to still smoking right now as I type this (working 20 hours a week for nothing in a crap restaurant.) I fall somewhere in the middle.

Don't smoke weed. Work Hard.

Nonsense, I'll bet I have one of the highest incomes here ... I think your friends were just growing up, probably more interested in smoking pot than there were in making money, not everybody works the same ...

I wouldn't like to see pot legalized, even though I smoke; I hate it. I wish there was some way to force myself to quit, if I never smoked another joint again it wouldn't be too soon ...