Copyright laws are _still_ mental

[themoose]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/12/28/AR2007122800693.html

What the ----?

Can anybody say here that they have never bought a song and copied it to another device (personal use)?

That includes CDs to PCs, or PCs to iPods (or other mp3 players), MP3s to Game Consoles, the list goes on.

If you have ever done any of the above, you are a thief and a criminal. Shame on you.

[Ben]

Smack a ho, Colin.

[themoose]

Will do.

George Bush in this interview (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gb7iOvS7Akc) says he has The Beatles on his iPod; yet they havn't been available on iTunes. That means he's had to have made quite a few copies, originally from a CD, eh?

[JohnN]

i remember posting something about this a while back, its still just as relevant.

to quote engadget, I guess we'd better all format our ipods;)

[TSO]

Holy ----, that's insane. Guess I'll see you all in the slammer. :)

[notnamed]

Well, I suppose I'd rather be sued for copying the few CDs I own to my computer than sued for the (purely theoretical) hundreds of CDs that I don't actually own. :p

[hertcast]

Ok now that's just stupid. I bet the Head of the RIAA has music he's copied from a CD onto his MP3 player or computer. So he should be sueing himself :)

[Skylar]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/12/28/AR2007122800693.html

What the ----?

Can anybody say here that they have never bought a song and copied it to another device (personal use)?

That includes CDs to PCs, or PCs to iPods (or other mp3 players), MP3s to Game Consoles, the list goes on.

If you have ever done any of the above, you are a thief and a criminal. Shame on you.

Oh snap. First the design that I took, now the CD's. Wow ... how bad am I?

Lol thats just STUPID -- every United States Citizen, or close to it, has an MP3 player. Face it.. nobody used the ol cd player anymore!

[Johnson]

L@@K at my sig for muzik piracy LULZ!!!

[stuffradio]

That's sad :lol:.

Eventually they'll just run out of money from many cases that they will lose :p

[themoose]

That's sad :lol:.

Eventually they'll just run out of money from many cases that they will lose :p

No. They win most of them because they have so much money. And of course we all know in today's corrupt societies, money means power.

[James]

That is incredible.

[themoose]

Ah. Well actually, apparently the washington post were wrong on this one; he's being sued just for illegal downloading.

[stuffradio]

Damn those americans and their sources being wrong!

[themoose]

Still. They'll probably sue him for $10,000 damages per song. Which is RIDICULOUS.

[Space Ghost]

sir, it is written in the bible that stealing is wrong
thus this man should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law !!

whoever takes this bait is a ----ing moron

[themoose]

Very funny.

The thing is though; copyright infringement isn't stealing.

When you steal something, the people you take it from still have it don't they? Their version hasn't changed at all has it?

If a mate bought a new TV and was able to "burn you a copy" you would, wouldn't you? No matter who you are.

I'm not saying copyright infringement isn't illegal; but it sure as hell aint stealing.

[Skylar]

Still. They'll probably sue him for $10,000 damages per song. Which is RIDICULOUS.

They better sue those companies that offer P2P.. Like Limewire and such.

[themoose]

They better sue those companies that offer P2P.. Like Limewire and such.

They've tried, but those companies have decent lawyers.

There has been cases though - Napster for example, and more recently TorrentSpy.

[Skylar]

They've tried, but those companies have decent lawyers.

There has been cases though - Napster for example, and more recently TorrentSpy.

They could simply protect the CD's like they do with DVD's, although there is still ways around that.

[themoose]

They could simply protect the CD's like they do with DVD's, although there is still ways around that.

Wouldn't stop a thing...

I mean, DVDs for one are supposedly copy protected but they're often released to the internet the day they retail if not months before (I Am Legend DVDScr leaked before Christmas).

Plus there would be uproar when people pop their newly purchased CDs into their CD drive and can't rip it to iTunes.

[utcrazy]

Thank God I live in Canada.

[TSO]

Wouldn't stop a thing...

I mean, DVDs for one are supposedly copy protected but they're often released to the internet the day they retail if not months before (I Am Legend DVDScr leaked before Christmas).

Plus there would be uproar when people pop their newly purchased CDs into their CD drive and can't rip it to iTunes.

Who else agrees with me that the DMCA is unconstitutional?

[heymrdj]

Everyone knows that DVD's aren't really protected. I haven't met one yet i couldn't crack with good ole DVD Decrypter.

[Skylar]

Who else agrees with me that the DMCA is unconstitutional?

Well remember its "just a damned piece of paper" as the Bush administration likes to put it.

[TSO]

^^ I hadn't heard that one yet. Does that mean his admin is against the DMCA, or for it? And if they are against it, why haven't they done something about it?

[Skylar]

^^ I hadn't heard that one yet. Does that mean his admin is against the DMCA, or for it? And if they are against it, why haven't they done something about it?

I forget where I found the news article but was something to do with he was trying to pass the wire tapping and congress said its "unconstitutional" and he said "stop throwing the constitution in my face. Its just a damned piece of paper!"

I will try to find it again, as there had been others in the administration who said the same thing basically. Funny as hell

[TSO]

Ooohhh, you mean he said (or implied) that about the Constitution? Wow, just another reason why he's a total * in my book.

(The word inserted at the * is a two-word contraction, consisting of the words ---- and wad, though I will not share what the word was. ;))

Dude, we really need to take this country back.

[Skylar]

Ooohhh, you mean he said (or implied) that about the Constitution? Wow, just another reason why he's a total * in my book.

(The word inserted at the * is a two-word contraction, consisting of the words ---- and wad, though I will not share what the word was. ;))

Dude, we really need to take this country back.

Ok well here's one for ya.

Obama or Clinton? and why.

[TSO]

Obama. I have a thousand and one different reasons, but I'll try to be brief.

While Clinton's dialog is definitely very admirable, and everything she says sounds good, there is a definite departure between her verbal record and actual record when comparing the two. Basically, she says one thing and does another.

Obama does not have a very long record, so his is a lot harder to judge. But, I admire him for his honesty and sincerity. Of course, this could be an act. Plus, he has no foreign policy experience. But, I also rather like the idea of taking someone fresh (someone with minimal exposure to "the way things are done" when compare with other candidates), instead of going with the status quo.

For example, Obama's commitment to sitting down and actually having an open dialog with "rogue" countries such as North Korea and Iran really impressed me. It differed from the current administration's, Clinton's, and most other "leaders'" positions of using heavy-handed tactics to try to push these countries to conformity - something that clearly has not worked, will not work, and is not very endearing besides.

Choosing Obama is like rolling the dice - but at least the chances are good.

Now, don't know if what I've just said makes sense - I'm rushing, and having a couple of conversations with people here in the office as I'm typing. But, that is my brief revelation. :)

[Gayowulf]

Patent and copyright law has gone way too far in the US. The patent problem is being dealt with, or at least recognized, but copyright law seems to be getting further and further away from common sense - it's almost as if there are highly paid lobbyists making all the decisions.
Hmm.
Next: you'll be sued if you let a friend listen, or play music at a party, or just play it loud enough for anyone but the purchaser of the music to hear.

[TSO]

Oh, and you can't show any of your books to your friends - not even the covers, because (after all!) the cover art is copyrighted, too!

[heymrdj]

Patent and copyright law has gone way too far in the US. The patent problem is being dealt with, or at least recognized, but copyright law seems to be getting further and further away from common sense - it's almost as if there are highly paid lobbyists making all the decisions.
Hmm.
Next: you'll be sued if you let a friend listen, or play music at a party, or just play it loud enough for anyone but the purchaser of the music to hear.

I think Wierd Al said it best: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIllRdSzSug or also http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yz-grdpKVqg

[TSO]

Dude, Weird Al is awesome. :P

[themoose]

Patent and copyright law has gone way too far in the US. The patent problem is being dealt with, or at least recognized, but copyright law seems to be getting further and further away from common sense - it's almost as if there are highly paid lobbyists making all the decisions.
Hmm.
Next: you'll be sued if you let a friend listen, or play music at a party, or just play it loud enough for anyone but the purchaser of the music to hear.

http://torrentfreak.com/charity-forced-to-pay-copyright-police-so-kids-can-sing-071209/


Car maintenance chain Kwik Fit is currently tied up in a bitter legal battle with the UK Performing Rights Society (PRS). It’s alleged that Kwik Fit’s mechanics allowed their radios to be played within earshot of the public - a truly heinous crime for which the PRS are demanding £200,000 in damages.

According to a report, the PRS are at it again. The staff at a charity also received a visit from a PRS officer who declared that because a staff radio in the kitchen could be overheard by the public in their tea-room, they would need a license.

:(

[Skylar]

That part on the radio is stupid! I cannot believe that!

[iBrightDev]

damn, i have like 80GB of music. :P