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LaceHost-Ishan
April 11th, 2008, 13:06
Hello everyone,

It is the first time I have encountered such a case.
This guy came onto my Yahoo IM (it is displayed publicly on my website)


ankit1988.online (4/8/2008 12:31:55 PM): hi
Lace Host (4/8/2008 12:32:07 PM): Hello
ankit1988.online (4/8/2008 12:32:08 PM): hw are u
ankit1988.online (4/8/2008 12:32:18 PM): hello
Lace Host (4/8/2008 12:32:31 PM): I am great, how are you ?
ankit1988.online (4/8/2008 12:32:43 PM): me also fine
ankit1988.online (4/8/2008 12:33:01 PM): where are u from?i got ur id from forums.digitalpoint.net
ankit1988.online (4/8/2008 12:33:09 PM): .com
Lace Host (4/8/2008 12:33:23 PM): I am from India, Pune to be exact
ankit1988.online (4/8/2008 12:33:47 PM): i am from Chandigarh-Panchkula(India)
Lace Host (4/8/2008 12:33:51 PM): k
ankit1988.online (4/8/2008 12:33:56 PM): i owe www.up4host.com
ankit1988.online (4/8/2008 12:34:09 PM): and www.fun4mobi.info
Lace Host (4/8/2008 12:34:39 PM): k
ankit1988.online (4/8/2008 12:35:15 PM): .do u want to do friendship with me?
Lace Host (4/8/2008 12:35:33 PM): sure
ankit1988.online (4/8/2008 12:36:06 PM):
Lace Host (4/8/2008 12:36:14 PM): k
ankit1988.online (4/8/2008 12:36:27 PM): do u owe servers
ankit1988.online (4/8/2008 12:36:33 PM): or from softlayer
ankit1988.online (4/8/2008 12:37:25 PM): what is ur name
ankit1988.online (4/8/2008 12:37:32 PM): my name is Ankit
Lace Host (4/8/2008 12:37:49 PM): our servers are from BurstNET
Lace Host (4/8/2008 12:37:54 PM): I am Ishan
ankit1988.online (4/8/2008 12:38:00 PM): ok
ankit1988.online (4/8/2008 12:38:19 PM): is ur hosting suceesfull??
ankit1988.online (4/8/2008 12:38:28 PM): we both can help each other
Lace Host (4/8/2008 12:38:40 PM): we are ranked 55th in India
ankit1988.online (4/8/2008 12:38:56 PM): ok
ankit1988.online (4/8/2008 12:40:53 PM): can u give me some space for reseller account on my domain.
Lace Host (4/8/2008 12:41:37 PM): http://lacehost.com/reseller-web-hosting.html
ankit1988.online (4/8/2008 12:41:58 PM): can't u give me for free only 2gb-1gb
ankit1988.online (4/8/2008 12:42:05 PM): please goive me
Lace Host (4/8/2008 12:42:18 PM): I am sorry, we do not give free web hosting
ankit1988.online (4/8/2008 12:42:37 PM): hmmm
ankit1988.online (4/8/2008 12:43:00 PM): i am not asking for free web hosting but only 2-3gb for reselling i will place ur adsds
ankit1988.online (4/8/2008 12:43:03 PM): adds
Lace Host (4/8/2008 12:44:14 PM): sorry, but we do not work that way
Lace Host (4/8/2008 12:44:24 PM): 2 GB reseller = $3/month
Lace Host (4/8/2008 12:44:34 PM): 3 GB reseler = $3.5/month
ankit1988.online (4/8/2008 12:44:51 PM): ok then bye
ankit1988.online (4/8/2008 12:46:02 PM): enjoy
ankit1988.online (4/8/2008 12:46:11 PM): and happy hostiong with ur business.



Next day -



Lace Host (4/10/2008 1:07:52 PM): Hello
ankit1988.online (4/10/2008 1:07:58 PM): hi
Lace Host (4/10/2008 1:08:05 PM): I had a talk with my partner
Lace Host (4/10/2008 1:08:15 PM): we decided to give you a free reseller of 2 GB
ankit1988.online (4/10/2008 1:08:15 PM): ok
Lace Host (4/10/2008 1:08:25 PM): on some conditions
ankit1988.online (4/10/2008 1:08:27 PM): really
ankit1988.online (4/10/2008 1:08:31 PM): tell me
Lace Host (4/10/2008 1:08:47 PM): you start paying for it, when you start earning from it
Lace Host (4/10/2008 1:09:11 PM): like 3 months from when we provide you the reseller
ankit1988.online (4/10/2008 1:09:23 PM): i didnt undesrtand
ankit1988.online (4/10/2008 1:09:33 PM): oh ok
Lace Host (4/10/2008 1:10:11 PM): are you ok with that ?
ankit1988.online (4/10/2008 1:10:18 PM): and can u give me free 2gb of space and 1 mysql databse and good bandwidth for making forums www.fun4mobi.info
Lace Host (4/10/2008 1:10:37 PM): you can use the amount from your reseller
ankit1988.online (4/10/2008 1:11:21 PM): i will also promote your sirte
Lace Host (4/10/2008 1:11:26 PM): overselling willl be enabled, so you wont have a problem selling the space
ankit1988.online (4/10/2008 1:12:41 PM): but a domain fun4mobi.info dosent sounds good for reseller hosting
Lace Host (4/10/2008 1:12:58 PM): you can use any other domain
Lace Host (4/10/2008 1:13:08 PM): for the reseller
ankit1988.online (4/10/2008 1:13:17 PM): so can u give me a .info domain for free.i a will be very thankfull to u
Lace Host (4/10/2008 1:13:20 PM): & add fun4mobi as an account in that reseller
Lace Host (4/10/2008 1:13:43 PM): sorry, a free reseller package is the most I can provide
ankit1988.online (4/10/2008 1:13:52 PM): ok
ankit1988.online (4/10/2008 1:14:01 PM): i have free domains
ankit1988.online (4/10/2008 1:14:11 PM): but dont know hw to change the nameservers
ankit1988.online (4/10/2008 1:14:23 PM): its from freedns.afraid .org
Lace Host (4/10/2008 1:14:51 PM): you can change them to ns5.lacehost.com & ns6.lacehost.com
ankit1988.online (4/10/2008 1:15:31 PM): ya i know i have to change but there is no option to change.wait i trry and tell u
Lace Host (4/10/2008 1:15:58 PM): k
ankit1988.online (4/10/2008 1:20:05 PM): one thing more can u prtovide me only a shared account hosting with 500mb of spavce and good bandwidth and 1mysql databse and php
ankit1988.online (4/10/2008 1:20:13 PM): if i dont need reseller
Lace Host (4/10/2008 1:20:20 PM): no, I cannot
Lace Host (4/10/2008 1:20:38 PM): with a reseller you would be paying me when you start getting customers, with shared, you wont
ankit1988.online (4/10/2008 1:21:08 PM): no i will place your adds on my forums
ankit1988.online (4/10/2008 1:21:15 PM): and promote your site
ankit1988.online (4/10/2008 1:22:13 PM): r u thr
Lace Host (4/10/2008 1:22:27 PM): yes
ankit1988.online (4/10/2008 1:22:32 PM): ok give me resekker acc
Lace Host (4/10/2008 1:22:37 PM): k
ankit1988.online (4/10/2008 1:22:47 PM): i will start paying yu when i will eran
Lace Host (4/10/2008 1:23:03 PM): k
ankit1988.online (4/10/2008 1:29:23 PM): can u give me ur ip
ankit1988.online (4/10/2008 1:29:28 PM): servers ip
Lace Host (4/10/2008 1:29:34 PM): 66.197.156.xxx

Next Day -


Lace Host (4/11/2008 9:54:32 PM): so, are you ready for the reseller account ?
ankit1988.online (4/11/2008 9:55:01 PM): ok tell me more about my reseller package.i tell u abt myself.i live with my mother and brother.no father.he is dead
ankit1988.online (4/11/2008 9:55:47 PM): so pls dont cheat me
Lace Host (4/11/2008 9:56:06 PM): how will I cheat you ? if I am giving something for free ?
ankit1988.online (4/11/2008 9:56:55 PM): cheat in the sense that dont take away my acc back
Lace Host (4/11/2008 9:57:06 PM): I wont
Lace Host (4/11/2008 9:57:13 PM): I have told you the conditions
ankit1988.online (4/11/2008 9:57:23 PM): tell me more
Lace Host (4/11/2008 9:57:31 PM): you have 3 months to start making money from your reseller
ankit1988.online (4/11/2008 9:57:54 PM): what if i didnt make money within 3months
Lace Host (4/11/2008 9:58:29 PM): well, to be honest, if you cant make money within 3 months, hosting business is not for you
ankit1988.online (4/11/2008 9:59:24 PM): tell me more hopw can i make money
ankit1988.online (4/11/2008 9:59:31 PM): should i place adds
ankit1988.online (4/11/2008 9:59:42 PM): google adsense
Lace Host (4/11/2008 9:59:45 PM): ?
ankit1988.online (4/11/2008 9:59:49 PM): or anything else
Lace Host (4/11/2008 9:59:51 PM): hosting = getting clients
Lace Host (4/11/2008 9:59:55 PM): who Pay
Lace Host (4/11/2008 9:59:58 PM): that's it
ankit1988.online (4/11/2008 10:01:06 PM): can't i start a hosting business and so my clients get subdomain under my domain if thjey post in my forum
ankit1988.online (4/11/2008 10:01:11 PM): which i will make
Lace Host (4/11/2008 10:01:35 PM): & you will earn from ads
ankit1988.online (4/11/2008 10:01:46 PM): yes
Lace Host (4/11/2008 10:01:48 PM): which will earn you very little money
ankit1988.online (4/11/2008 10:01:49 PM): and i will give u 50%
Lace Host (4/11/2008 10:02:16 PM): free hosting providers do not last, because they do not get enough money
ankit1988.online (4/11/2008 10:02:48 PM): hmmmm
ankit1988.online (4/11/2008 10:03:18 PM): but i want to this only bcoz it will take too long to establish a well reputedf company
Lace Host (4/11/2008 10:04:03 PM): you need to be patient, listen to me, you will not earn enough from ads supported hosting
Lace Host (4/11/2008 10:04:20 PM): I have already tried it before I switched to paid hosting
ankit1988.online (4/11/2008 10:04:21 PM): ok
ankit1988.online (4/11/2008 10:04:30 PM): then how can i eran
ankit1988.online (4/11/2008 10:04:58 PM): can i start both freee as well as paid
Lace Host (4/11/2008 10:05:45 PM): you can do that
ankit1988.online (4/11/2008 10:05:58 PM): ok
ankit1988.online (4/11/2008 10:06:24 PM): i will sell the space for paid to clients and some space for free
ankit1988.online (4/11/2008 10:06:45 PM): and will give u money
Lace Host (4/11/2008 10:07:02 PM): you have 3 months
ankit1988.online (4/11/2008 10:07:03 PM): are u alone at lacehost
Lace Host (4/11/2008 10:07:07 PM): alone ?
ankit1988.online (4/11/2008 10:07:25 PM): alone or do u have partners
Lace Host (4/11/2008 10:07:39 PM): I have 1 partner & 8 support techs
ankit1988.online (4/11/2008 10:07:55 PM): 3 months means that u will give me only for 3 months
Lace Host (4/11/2008 10:08:23 PM): after that you have to pay $2.5/month for the reseller account
ankit1988.online (4/11/2008 10:09:20 PM): pls understand my problems.i dont have my father.so i cant afford that
ankit1988.online (4/11/2008 10:09:31 PM): but i sure u i will give u 50%
ankit1988.online (4/11/2008 10:09:43 PM): u can take my number
Lace Host (4/11/2008 10:09:53 PM): You can surely make more than 2.5 a month , within 3 months
ankit1988.online (4/11/2008 10:10:03 PM): 25040692
Lace Host (4/11/2008 10:10:16 PM): I have no need for your number
Lace Host (4/11/2008 10:10:35 PM): if you cannot make that much amount, then hosting business is not for you
Lace Host (4/11/2008 10:10:42 PM): you should try something else
Lace Host (4/11/2008 10:10:48 PM): maybe , writing articles?
Lace Host (4/11/2008 10:11:15 PM): I know a guy who pays his writers $2/article , & has many articles to write everyday
ankit1988.online (4/11/2008 10:12:21 PM): hey u r not understanding.as a customer it takes too much time to buy hosting
Lace Host (4/11/2008 10:13:02 PM): I am not understanding?
Lace Host (4/11/2008 10:13:12 PM): I have been in this business for more than 2 years
ankit1988.online (4/11/2008 10:14:00 PM): thats it.u alone took two years to setup.so how can u expect me to setup a good company within 3months
Lace Host (4/11/2008 10:14:15 PM): who said I took 3 years ?
Lace Host (4/11/2008 10:14:21 PM): *2 years
Lace Host (4/11/2008 10:14:31 PM): I said I am in this business for 2 years
Lace Host (4/11/2008 10:14:41 PM): it took me a day to get my first customer
ankit1988.online (4/11/2008 10:15:51 PM): so it means that if i would not b able to get customers within 3months u will canmcel my account
ankit1988.online (4/11/2008 10:16:01 PM): so it means that if i would not b able to get customers within 3 months u will canmcel my account??
Lace Host (4/11/2008 10:16:13 PM): yes
ankit1988.online (4/11/2008 10:16:38 PM): ok then leave it
Lace Host (4/11/2008 10:16:50 PM): as you wish
ankit1988.online (4/11/2008 10:18:05 PM): to b frank i am telling that i will do my best to rsesell space both in free and piad but u are sticking on 3 months-3months
Lace Host (4/11/2008 10:18:49 PM): if you do your best, surely you will have atleast 15 customers within 3 months
Lace Host (4/11/2008 10:19:03 PM): & you will upgrade to our 7.49/month plan within 3 months
ankit1988.online (4/11/2008 10:20:58 PM): sir i will have to remove my acc from bytehost reseller and all things will b lost and after 3 moths if there will b no selling of ur space........my dreams will b bang
ankit1988.online (4/11/2008 10:21:23 PM): i simply want to run a free nad paid web hosting co
ankit1988.online (4/11/2008 10:21:32 PM): and i am telling that i will give u 50%
ankit1988.online (4/11/2008 10:21:44 PM): but still u are on 3 months
Lace Host (4/11/2008 10:22:44 PM): 50% is nothing if you make $0
Lace Host (4/11/2008 10:22:54 PM): 3 months is my last offer
ankit1988.online (4/11/2008 10:23:30 PM): leave it then.i will buy a paid hosting myself from my known
Lace Host (4/11/2008 10:23:56 PM): if you can BUY a paid hosting, you can surely PAY for the reseller
ankit1988.online (4/11/2008 10:24:16 PM): its a joke just tyo show u
Lace Host (4/11/2008 10:24:34 PM): you are very bad at jokes then
Lace Host (4/11/2008 10:24:50 PM): bad at hosting, bad at jokes, try writing, your english is ok
ankit1988.online (4/11/2008 10:25:32 PM): eh dont mess with me.one day will come when i will buy ur company.........i assure you
Lace Host (4/11/2008 10:25:44 PM):
Lace Host (4/11/2008 10:25:49 PM):
ankit1988.online (4/11/2008 10:26:09 PM): i give u challenge
Lace Host (4/11/2008 10:26:16 PM):
ankit1988.online (4/11/2008 10:27:27 PM): there are many better resellers available at freewebspace.net/forums/ go anfd see urself mother----er
Lace Host (4/11/2008 10:27:39 PM): abuse ?
Lace Host (4/11/2008 10:27:46 PM): have I abused you ?


Now, this guy may post -ve reviews all over.

What would you do in such a situation ?

Ishan

[JSH]John
April 11th, 2008, 14:33
Just ignore him. He may post negative reviews about you, but you have the chat logs there to prove he was in the wrong.

You'll get a lot of customers like that, I've had my fair share as well. They'll want everything for free and not want to give anything back in return for being kind.

Just today I was being told I cannot suspend a website for a payment being 10 days late. Their reason is that it's a business website and should never be suspended. They only ever respond when their site is suspended. So there's still quite a lot of people like him around.

Cam.
April 11th, 2008, 16:46
If he wants to be an ungrateful crap, then leave him...

If he posts -ve reviews, just reply back... He can't do anything ;)

fnixws
April 11th, 2008, 19:23
Ive seent hat guy around the forums.
Always asking for a free reseller.

Eclouds
April 11th, 2008, 19:35
This guy is a waste of bandwidth... and oxygen.

Secret
April 11th, 2008, 20:21
I've had that kind of customer before, and he's also from India. He spammed my forum, spammed my members, spammed my yahoo messenger... (I'm not generalizing all India people are like that, because I also have a good staff from India)

Then, I just blocked him on yahoo, disable his access to PM. To make it more 'memorable' :) some of my staffs and annoyed members send him messages to stop spamming (I didn't ask this to happen) and they picked some really "tasty" words :)

It's just a complete waste of time....

Darknight
April 11th, 2008, 23:32
Oh well :)

JLHC
April 12th, 2008, 02:55
Just respond with the chat log every time he post a negative review about you at any forum.

Keep your eyes open, make sure you visit the popular forums and search for your reviews to check whether this joker is posting anything about you. ;)

hamster
April 12th, 2008, 04:01
I've met him on FWS, ZoomCities, WebsitesNetwork and he's been bugging me too until he recently acquired a new target. ;)

HostingITrust
April 17th, 2008, 14:37
I think you should not have offered him the Free reseller package in the first place. It was a bad marketing decision. You should have politely declined him in the first place. People like him are usually always a waste a time.

DavidsAwesome
April 21st, 2008, 19:24
Well, now you know not to offer free hosting to people. From my experience, people that want free hosting don't respect your server or your rules.