Opera Remembers Even Though Told Not To

[DarkBlood]

I recently filed a bug report (I'm sure they won't do anything about it), and was wondering if any of you had the same problem, or a solution to it.


1. Tools > Preferences > Advanced > History
2. Uncheck "Remember content on visited pages."
3. Navigate to a page, wait a while for it to update (IE: An Art Site like DA. Note yourself or something, or wait for someone to submit an art) then go to the update.
4. clear the update if you can. Then go back to another page.
5. Go back to the updates page. The update will still be there, even though you cleared it.

Basically, this also happens in IE, in the same manner, but IE has no option to get around it. Opera does, but it doesn't work.

[Richard]

Solution:

Get FireFox (http://getfirefox.com)

[DarkBlood]

Solution:

Get FireFox (http://getfirefox.com)

Sure, okay. After Firefox remidies the memory hike due to leaking cache (Safari needs that issue fixed as well) Opera doesn't have this problem.

Firefox Ultimate Optimizer wouuuuuld help, but it's annoying to have another systray icon.

[Richard]

Ahem.

I should have made myself more clear.

Get FireFox 3 (http://getfirefox.com)

[Johnson]

Firefox 3 uses less ram than Opera.

[AdamJ]

Johnson & Richard are right, Firefox 3 eliminates all errors, forget Opera, its in the past ;)

[iBrightDev]

another FF vs Opera discussion. YAY!

[AdamJ]

I ain't trying to say Opera isn't good, I personally think its an amazing browser due to its extensive features. But I do think Firefox is one of the best, if not thee best.

[DarkBlood]

Firefox 3 uses less ram than Opera.

No, Opera, at start uses around 25 MB, Firefox uses about 35 MB at start (for me.) Eventually, Firefox hikes to over 100 MB due to all the sites it has to remember, as well as some cache (5 MB worth.) Flash plugin doesn't help either.

To quote my other post...

That 60,000 K was a mistake actually =/ Since I was on a site that relied heavily on scripts and flash and with addons.

Without addons (Mozilla Start):
http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/6888/firefoxnoaddsmemrd9.png

With addons (Mozilla Start):
http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/5761/firefoxwithaddsmemqn1.png

Mind you, my explorer.exe takes up 24,xxx K; svchost takes up three processes, highest being 27,xxx K, others around 5,000 K a piece. I have a whole mess of stuff running as well.

Firefox 3 hiked to 77,xxx K or so when I was uploading all those to imageshack. Ouch.
http://i27.tinypic.com/ifcqh3.jpg

After that last image there showing 78+ MB, Firefox had hiked to over 100 MB.

Opera averages at a constant 45 MB or so, while the max it goes is about 55 MB. Opera also goes back down to around its starting memory amount when it's not navigating to a page or loading images, etc.

[iBrightDev]

why dont you get some shots of both runn9ing instead of just FF. all the other stats out there show FF killing Opera, so, i would tend to believe the other stats a little more.

[DarkBlood]

why dont you get some shots of both runn9ing instead of just FF. all the other stats out there show FF killing Opera, so, i would tend to believe the other stats a little more.

Bingo bango... I wasn't able to get Opera to hike up to 100+ MB (yet), but here's some memory usage.

First, normal start-up in 9.5:
http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/3334/operanormmemyi6.png

Second, during a 7.8 MB flash on newgrounds:
http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/6932/operaduringflashtc0.png

After all that mess, and after uploading these bad boys:
http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/1097/operamemafteralljj1.png

After this last image, it hiked to around 48 MB.

[themoose]

For once I agree with your stance Iyeru, but I don't quite get the question you're asking?

[DarkBlood]

For once I agree with your stance Iyeru, but I don't quite get the question you're asking?

Firefox updates pages when it comes back to them (immediately too), but with Opera, it doesn't. It has that silly IE issue where content is old, unless you refresh the page manually by hitting the refresh button or F5.

I believe I have referenced it many times in the past, calling it onLoad = Old. Microsoft will never fix IE to remove the issue. (It's been around since the good 'ol IE5 days)

Safari sometimes has this problem, but it does a better job at it I believe.

Setting the cache and memory to zero/off, does not resolve this issue one bit.

[iBrightDev]

Bingo bango... I wasn't able to get Opera to hike up to 100+ MB (yet), but here's some memory usage.

First, normal start-up in 9.5:
http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/3334/operanormmemyi6.png

Second, during a 7.8 MB flash on newgrounds:
http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/6932/operaduringflashtc0.png

After all that mess, and after uploading these bad boys:
http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/1097/operamemafteralljj1.png

After this last image, it hiked to around 48 MB.

i said show a pic of both running, not just opera, and not just ff, both. so, open both, and have both running at the same time, and same site, and same amount of tabs, and see what it says. also, make sure it is FF3 and opera 9.5 please

[themoose]

Iyeru, type in your address bar: opera:config#cache

see if any of that helps.

[DarkBlood]

i said show a pic of both running, not just opera, and not just ff, both. so, open both, and have both running at the same time, and same site, and same amount of tabs, and see what it says. also, make sure it is FF3 and opera 9.5 please

Good thing I didn't un-install it; so... youuuu asked for it.

http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/7803/operanoaddsvfirefoxwithcy3.th.png (http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/7803/operanoaddsvfirefoxwithcy3.png)

Full title of filename: OperaNoAddsVFirefoxWithAdds.png. Right before I took this picture, firefox.exe was at about the same as opera actually.

Edit: @Mentok...

http://img388.imageshack.us/img388/8197/operacacheconfoe5.png

What do I do with that garglemesh?

[themoose]

Just going out on a whim here, but try changing 'check expiry history' to 0. Then to 1.

[DarkBlood]

Just going out on a whim here, but try changing 'check expiry history' to 0. Then to 1.

Neither worked.

[iBrightDev]

looks like ff was using 1kb less than opera.

[DarkBlood]

looks like ff was using 1kb less than opera.

MB actually =/

[iBrightDev]

erm, yeah, typo. sorry. :p