The Sell WHM Story|My side of the story

[sellwhm]

I don't want this post to be just about me scamming people as the subject. I want to be heard. I don't think I felt like I had this option on DP or WHT. I don't feel like people gave me a chance on DP or WHT.

1. I don't blame the loss on my clients or anybody.
2. I did register sellwhm.com until 2011
3. I did register the domain with private whois just in case mis communication happend.
4. I didn't have backups due to the fact that everything was going great.
5. I had sellwhm up with 1,000 accounts on a dedicated server and a vps node with 26 accounts and have dedicated server clients.
6. lxadmin.com got hacked and caused the vps node to crash
7. the two burst server's from Mako Solutions were canceled the wrong time.
8. I couldn't afford the tremendous bill from Burst for $1,000
9. Ross deleted important files on the main dedicated server causing the dedicated server to go down.
10. I did cancel all of the servers and I did not have the contact information for all of my clients at the time.
11. I was partially responsible and as well limestone networks.
12. My clients did lose everything as well as I did.
13. I don't think scamming has to do anything to do with closing shop or going bankrupt. Not all companies stay in business forever.
14. I won't do hosting ever again after everything that has happened but I do have a life.
15. I did have domains where friends helped me set up a hosting business because they felt like it was totally wrong for what happened.
16. I am really sorry for everything but I couldn't control some of it.
17. Alot of the business was mis-management that needed to be controlled better than it was.
18. Only 50 out of 150 clients were active.
19. I had 200 tickets and testimonials were clients actually wrote how great our company was. I even had a forums, live chat, and email support.
20. I had a $200 negative paypal balance only and won the one's that weren't chargebacks. Only 15 were disputes/claims out of all of
21. I decided to close shop: The bills were getting higher and higher. The servers were $400 plus and I had to pay rvskins, rvsitebuilder, whmcs, etc....plus the $1,000 that i owed at burst. Most of the money was made thanks to my clients and I could only afford the servers due to the fact that I had clients.
22. Most of the profit was only $5 to $10 per a burst server
23. Whenever people file disputes..the paypal balance goes down..when you have no money and want to pay back the clients later..what do you do? They want the money now. I fight it because I don't want to have no collection agency calling me 24/7.
24. I don't have negative paypal for months...
25. I did manage my own servers and didn't get help from anyone until the end of sellwhm's death when I was overwhealmed. I only got help from cpanel, burst, & lxadmin when I had a problem I couldn't solve myself. Majority of the problems were fixed in a day. Whoever talks to me on messenger and in person knows that I can do quite alot of techinal stuff.

[~ServerPoint~]

23. Whenever people file disputes..the paypal balance goes down..when you have no money and want to pay back the clients later..what do you do? They want the money now. I fight it because I don't want to have no collection agency calling me 24/7.
Borrow some money for the first time, that leaves the hopes that customers might decide to return to you

[sellwhm]

If my credit was actually good, I'd borrow money for sure.

[fnixws]

I didnt even realise youd closed, thanks for the account while it lasted, Looks like i need a new backup FTP. Shame to see you outa business. :(

[[JSH]John]

Atleast you've been honest and didn't go blaming everyone else. It's a shame to see a provider end up with so many problems where they were forced to close up.

[DanTheMan]

Majority of the problems were fixed in a day. Whoever talks to me on messenger and in person knows that I can do quite alot of techinal stuff.

I can definitely vouch for that!

Thanks for all your help in the pass ralph sorry to see you go down, if you do ever consider getting back in let me know what i can do to help!

[FeverHost]

The real full story: www.Ralphchastain-IsAFraud.com.

Learn what truly happened
Learn what Ralph has actually been doing this last month.
Learn why Ralph has been banned on WHT and DP.. among other forums

The truth will set you free!

[TSO]

The real full story: www.Ralphchastain-IsAFraud.com.

Learn what truly happened
Learn what Ralph has actually been doing this last month.
Learn why Ralph has been banned on WHT and DP.. among other forums

The truth will set you free!

What, exactly, do you have against him?

[Dynash]

lolz. "Ralph Chastain .... you are quite pathetic!", yet there's a group of you making a website about him, tracking his every move?

[sellwhm]

He is the only one that makes a site about me and he doesn't have any factual evidence. He says that I am a fraud and you can't convince him otherwise. Even if I try to explain the truth...he still says that I am a fraud. He just doesn't know the truth at all. Don't believe everything you hear. Every company has its share of problems.

[FeverHost]

The website speaks for itself. Why have you been banned from DP, and WHT? Why did at least 16 file chargebacks against you? Why has your RChastain.com site been shut down 3 times in the last week now, by 3 different hosts? Even your "Dutch" off shore VPS was shut down.

No one wants their name anywhere associated with you. The truth is out there.

Every time you speak, more and more ignorance comes out.. and we document it. You claim to have several hundreds of ex-customers... why do you think we know about every website you post to? It's not like there are only a few people who want you exposed. We get tips about you every single day from people who have been scammed and defrauded by you.

If an intelligent person checks out the Fraud Site, and reads all the information... any sane person can tell your a fraud... and you have been exposed. And this is not the first time you have done this. But it will be the last time you ever get anywhere near web hosting again.. without the truth being exposed.

And I do not mind whatsoever you posted on your personal (now taken down website) my Email Address. It most definitely is feverhost@gmail.com, and funny how such an innocent person.. tells people to go out and spam me. Nice Ralph.. very innocent looking ;)

Please keep posting and making more comments... you just keep making yourself look more guilty and guilty. The worse thing you can do is utter speech from your lips. So by all means.. continue. And we will by all means, document everything you say.

[sellwhm]

I was banned on DP for voicing my opinion and WHT I was banned for cussing out people due to the fact that the people on WHT was talking about my gf and our relationship. RChastain.Com wasn't shut down by any host...only that hate site I made about you. Every Single Day? I seriously doubt it. Its just scare tactics. geekdialog.com won't be shut down either..cause I have a legal copy of VBulletin and I used that copy on sellwhm.com as well. I doubt that you can do anything to me cause most of your work that you do on your site isn't factual.

[FeverHost]

You were banned from DP and WHT because you have been exposed as defrauding people. Ask any Moderator/Admin on either website.

And yes.. RChastain.com is down... why?



We have received confirmation that the reseller account (VPS) that Ralph owns will be shut down/removed from his current web hosting provider due to libel and slander.


Again.. very innocent looking.

[sellwhm]

You were banned from DP and WHT because you have been exposed as defrauding people. Ask any Moderator/Admin on either website.

And yes.. RChastain.com is down... why?



Again.. very innocent looking.

This isn't true for a fact and rchastain.com was down cause I shut it down.

[Dynash]

Fever, anyone gets banned on WHT, same with DP, so what does that have to do towards SellWHM? Nothing.
Charge backs too have no meaning to him being a fraud, he closed his business due to problems, people charged back - they'll do that with ANY host.

and seriously, it's turning into a stalker case, documenting everything he posts, visiting all websites he visits, tracking his every move? You guys do need to back off.

[sellwhm]

Fever, Do you think that I would really risk everything like this on purpose? I had sellwhm.com for 5 months open and even registered the domain until 2011. Everything that I was hoping for came a reality until one day it got shattered! My dream was to have the best company in the world and I had sleepless nights over this. I didn't intend for this to happen. I was planning to stay for a extremely long time. Why would I stay in business for such a good period of time and close up shop? I don't even have a bank account nor a way to keep the money. I didn't have money at the end of this! I didn't do this on PURPOSE in no shape or form. I had to close down for all of the problems that I had.

[stuffradio]

Feverhost, you seem to be having a lot of bash without a lot of fact. You yourself are a host (or so I would think with your username). Unless you have hard factual evidence, don't post.

Thank you.

[sellwhm]

What do you want from me feverhost? What will make you stop? Do you want $90 end of this month? Is it just about the money or is it more than that?

[TornadoGaming]

Ralph had a valid reason to shut down his company - if I was in his situation I would have done the same thing.

this was out of his control and he could not have prevented this

[Jan]

this was out of his control and he could not have prevented this
Did you even read the first post?

[FISHKINZ]

We have received confirmation that the reseller account (VPS) that Ralph owns will be shut down/removed from his current web hosting provider due to libel and slander.

I would just like to point out that we never said this. We took down one of the sites on his VPS but we we never said we would suspend his VPS (unless something more happened)
:angel:

[sellwhm]

Posted on ralphchastain-isafraud.com:
Secondly, Josh wants his $90.00, Jason wants his $92.00, Tim wants his $89.00, and the other 14 Dedicated Servers clients and over 700 web hosting clients money back that you stole.]
My comment:
Who is Jason and Tim? I only had 12 or less dedicated server clients. 700 clients? That is a lie as well...I only had 150 in all.
From the stalkers on ralphchastain-isafraud.com:
We collectively receive at least 5 tips per week on the where abouts of Ralph Chatain. How do you think we find out where Ralph hangs out on-line, and react so quickly? Do you really think we spend 20 hours on-line? From Ralph's own words, "I had 700 clients"... quite a lot of these people have given up tips, and continue to do so.
My comment:
I don't believe anything you say and I don't think anyone does either.

[DanTheMan]

Ok one: are you really that much of a freaking stalker to go to every forum he is on and bash him.

Two: You get banned for anything on DP and WHT.

Three: You obliviously aren't a good enough stalker to take you this long to post something about he said on fws. Since he's been here before you were born.

Four: If you can't get over 90 bucks then you obviously don't have a good financial backbone to support your webhost.

Five: What is your domain? FeverHost.com? IT'S GONE :P

Hey Ralph, I got your back if you ever want to get into webhosting we got a position for you anytime, that's right ladies...HostWoot aka CancerHost is willing to take in Ralph.

[Jan]

Dan;1038628']
Five: What is your domain? FeverHost.com? IT'S GONE :P


In case you didn't notice, his account here is over 5 years old.

[DanTheMan]

In case you didn't notice, his account here is over 5 years old.

oh thanks :D

[FeverHost]

Ok... i'm game... let me respond:

It's the goal of our website to go where ever Ralph goes and post about what happened. And we will continue to do so. Ralph has free speech, and so do we.



Ok one: are you really that much of a freaking stalker to go to every forum he is on and bash him.


There are several thousands of members on DP and WHT. And an extremely small amount of people have been banned... and 99.9% for good reasons. Just because you do not like those reputable web hosting discussion websites, doesn't mean they are less reputable.



Two: You get banned for anything on DP and WHT.


Again, read the response to "Ok one". Since all 3 owners of our website are older than Ralph... I seriously doubt that ;)



Three: You obliviously aren't a good enough stalker to take you this long to post something about he said on fws. Since he's been here before you were born.


It's not about financial means. All 3 of us (Jason, Tim, and I) have all purchased other dedicated servers. I personally own 7 colocated servers, and lease 2 dedicated servers, and a reseller account for my internet ventures.

I sold my web hosting business in 2002 with quite a lot of profit. I haven't had feverhost.com in many years now. Web hosting wasn't/isn't a profitable enough venture for me anywhere. I've been in internet/marketing for many years now, and do enjoy quite a nice profit.



Four: If you can't get over 90 bucks then you obviously don't have a good financial backbone to support your webhost.


Again, read my response to "Four". For me... i'm able to make a lot more money with my advertising company, thanks for asking.



Five: What is your domain? FeverHost.com? IT'S GONE :P


All I have to say below is... wow. I'm sure HostWoot/CancerHost is an upstanding, professional, mature.. whatever. I seriously doubt you and/or anyone you are associated with his a valid registered company.

My goal was to reply to Ralph's lies.. and that is what I have done. If you want to back a guy who scammed, and defrauded people... that is your own decision. Good luck with that one.

Having a hosting company with no telephone contact number, private WHOIS information, Google Adsense on some of your webpages... again.. good luck with that "business"... I guess.



Hey Ralph, I got your back if you ever want to get into webhosting we got a position for you anytime, that's right ladies...HostWoot aka CancerHost is willing to take in Ralph.

[TimMasterPlan]

I am sure feverhost incorrectly put in the wrong amount of 700. Ralph "claims" 150 clients, and 16 dedicated server customers that he scammed. Although Ralph's math is a bit elementary as 8+6 is 14 not 16... but oh well.

[Dynash]

How is that replying? That's just having a go at a user who owns a free host, trying to class his free host as some other kind of scam. Free hosts can hide their whois if they want, they're not a trading business in terms of upturn profit.

[FeverHost]

My goal was to reply to Ralph's lies.. and that is what I have done. If you want to back a guy who scammed, and defrauded people... that is your own decision. Good luck with that one.


'nough said.. anything else is just round and round. This will be my last post.... anything else is a waste of time ;)

Tim save your breathe... children never learn :jump:

[Dynash]

That's how you prove your point? By saying you're going to reply, reply to something that isn't even related, then STOP replying? At least Ralph has had the time to reply and state his case. All you've done is bash, and bring age into some account as to people being untrustworthy and fraudalent.

[FeverHost]

I have to go against my better judgment on not replying again.

First off, its spelled fraudulent. I guess you went to the same school as Ralph where 8+6=16. LOL

Secondly, your sentence isn't even close to being grammatically correct.

Oh well... as I said above.. children never learn. But come on... learn how to spell at least.



That's how you prove your point? By saying you're going to reply, reply to something that isn't even related, then STOP replying? At least Ralph has had the time to reply and state his case. All you've done is bash, and bring age into some account as to people being untrustworthy and fraudalent.

[Dynash]

There you go again. Big deal, I put a a instead of a u, shoot me.

[JLHC]

Sorry for chipping in, but I just don't understand why you guys backed Ralph as though as you are sure he is not scamming or defrauding anybody.

I am not sure about DP but I am sure that he must have done something which makes him get banned from WHT.

Just my two cents and sorry if this offends anybody.

[sellwhm]

Feverhost will go absolutely crazy on anybody that supports me.... I really don't care at this point. He can put as many websites as he wants about me. I won't make another one ever again responding to his lies and slanderous/material. I don't care what he says. I'll do business/websites as much as I want online. My life will continue normally as it does. He doesn't have anything good or true to say about me as far as I am concerned and alot of people would say that companies scam people even if they(the companies) don't as much as possible to bring that company down. Just don't believe everything you hear on the net. I sure don't!

[Jan]

Sorry for chipping in, but I just don't understand why you guys backed Ralph as though as you are sure he is not scamming or defrauding anybody.

I am not sure about DP but I am sure that he must have done something which makes him get banned from WHT.

Both WHT and DP eventually ban rule breakers, and it's usually those who got banned that scream the loudest ;)

[DanTheMan]

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All I have to say below is... wow. I'm sure HostWoot/CancerHost is an upstanding, professional, mature.. whatever. I seriously doubt you and/or anyone you are associated with his a valid registered company.

My goal was to reply to Ralph's lies.. and that is what I have done. If you want to back a guy who scammed, and defrauded people... that is your own decision. Good luck with that one.

Having a hosting company with no telephone contact number, private WHOIS information, Google Adsense on some of your webpages... again.. good luck with that "business"... I guess.

Really? now you really think i'm a scam? haha seriously a free scam host? ah hahahaha the only person i'm scaming is myself for dishing out for a free vps and donating to cancer research foundations...

[fnixws]

Sorry for chipping in, but I just don't understand why you guys backed Ralph as though as you are sure he is not scamming or defrauding anybody.

I am not sure about DP but I am sure that he must have done something which makes him get banned from WHT.

Just my two cents and sorry if this offends anybody.

Fact is, neither of them have shown evidence here, so who knows exactly what to believe.

However, Ralph actually came here to make a statement and admit his errors like a man. I dont think a scammer would go so far, normally they just scam someone and disappear with the cash not giving a rats --- about their reputation.

I think most people stick up for him because they dont want to be in the same situation. They sympathize because they know it could happen to any one of us.

Feverhosts attitude here doesnt help. To me it looks like hes just ranting!
His site is full of statements about Ralph, but it provides no actual evidence. Without evidence, you tend to just look like a raving loony.

[Technics]

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First off, its spelled fraudulent. I guess you went to the same school as Ralph where 8+6=16. LOL


Spelt.

[Jan]

Spelt.
That depends which country you are from ;)

[Technics]

That depends which country you are from ;)

Queen's English :love:

[Jan]

Queen's English :love:
That's correct :)

[Cam.]

I'm not quite sure why I'm replying here after Ralph insulted me and put me down on WHT a month or so ago, but I think considering this thread seems to be going on so long I'm going to put in my side ;)

Now the dictionary definition for scam is this:


a confidence game or other fraudulent scheme, esp. for making a quick profit; swindle.

Now, I don't think Ralph's purposely doing this, but this is (by my count) the 4th or 5th time that he's started a company, taken the money and left. I'm pretty sure he has good intentions when starting, but obviously doesn't have the patience or the required skill to run a proper company (or it could be another reason which I will not disclose in public), but either way, I don't think he should be running a company after so many failed attempts. He's not trying to fraud anyone on purpose, but he ends up doing it due to lack of skill/patience.

If I were someone like feverhost, I probably would have started a site like his as well (OK, maybe not as full on as his) but something along those lines.

I think everyone should just stop fighting and get over it. Ralph should probably refund the money when he can, but I don't see that happening somehow....

Just my 2c :)

(BTW sorry if the above doesn't make much sense, it's 12PM and I'm tired ;) I'll come back and edit it tomorrow)

[Jan]

Thanks Cameron, someone had to say it ;)

[GlennBeforeTime]

Just swung by this thread, and I need to say what most of us are thinking.

FeverHost, seriously... Are you 15? You start a hate site where you stalk someone and refuse to listen to reasoning? Take a look at yourself and you'll see what you have become, and what you are making yourself look.

I've purchased over the internet many times, and unfortunately, some of those times I've been ripped off, or scammed. I'm not making hate sites about each of these places that ripped me off. You have no right to stalk Ralph so grow up and move on. Just don't buy from any website with a staff member named Ralph...

And on the subject of correct grammatical sentences;

First off, its spelled fraudulent. I guess you went to the same school as Ralph where 8+6=16. LOL

Secondly, your sentence isn't even close to being grammatically correct.

Oh well... as I said above.. children never learn. But come on... learn how to spell at least.
Should be;

First off, it's spelled fraudulent, but I guess you went to the same school as Ralph where 8+6=16. LOL

Secondly, your sentence isn't even close to being grammatically correct.

Oh well...
As I said above, children never learn, but come on... Learn how to spell at least.
Look at how much better that is to read? It's like sex, but for your eyes. I suggest that in future, when making a comment about the spelling, or grammar of another person's post, you get yours correct at the very least. :evilb::evilb::evilb:

[FeverHost]

* Ralph had 14-16 Dedicated Server Clients. Where 4 confirmed people (via privmsg statements) paid Ralph at least $85.00 and had their dedicated servers terminated less than a week from purchase. Taking into account (on average) 15 clients paying (on average) $85.00 per month for dedicated servers, Ralph owes $1,257.00. The server I purchased from Ralph was $92.00 and was canceled within 3 days.

* Ralph indicated he had 14 disputes in his paypal account where (confirmed via privmsg) at least were 8 dedicated servers clients. All 14 of these people contacted RalphChastain-IsAFraud.com and all said they lost their disputes, due to Ralph fighting the disputes because they they were services.

* Ralph had contact with most of his dedicated servers clients as (confirmed again at RalphChatain-etc-etc) 8 people said they were in contact with Ralph via MSN Live Messenger, the day before all the servers went down. On the day the severs went down I contacted Ralph several times to find out what happened with the server I was paying on. It was again confirmed many other people tried to contact Ralph via Email and MSN Live... none of the emails/IMs were responded to.

* I called up Paypal, Inc. on November 2th, 2008 and asked a manager on staff about if a Business Account on paypal needed a checking account and/or credit card. The lady said to have a verified business account on paypal, you need a checking account. This is Paypal.. not a second hand thing.

* Ralph was banned on WHT, because a lot of people contacted WHT that Ralph scammed them. After Ralph had a few days to respond to these charges, WHT decided Ralph *DID IN FACT* scam people. Therefore he was banned, and is still banned.

* Ralph was banned on DigitalPoint, due to the same problems... scamming. Plus Ralph in his very immature way decided to spam on DigitalPoint, which he himself admitted. Even laughed about it, and thought it was funny.

There are many more factual truths on our Ralph Chastain Fraud website, that is very easily accessible.

If Ralph was such a great guy, and really cared about what happened... he would first re-pay the (at least) $1,257.00 to his ex-web hosting customers. Wouldn't a self-claimed "CEO/Owner".. do this? Burst.net said "Ralph canceled the servers"... this actually was a TOS/AUP breach. And Ralph himself broke his own TOS/AUP. He canceled the servers... not the data center.

If you want to continue to defend this type of person that if your own character flaw. The factual evidence is out there, read up on it and educate yourself before you back someone. I feel anything else to try to defend the actions of people who been scammed by a scammer, is a waste of time.

[sellwhm]

When you signed up, you needed to read my tos. I seriously think that you failed to read it. I could of refused service to each and everyone whoever signed up. I don't even have to offer refunds on my services. It was my company and its my rules. When you sign up for a service, its a contract. When you break the contract, you pretty much lose. I did provide services to each and every person that signed up altough it wasn't the longest period of time that I'd hope for. I did have a checking account but it was seriously overdrawn to the point where I was still verified even without having the checking account anymore. I am verified with a checking account BUT I don't no longer have a checking account. Funny isn't it? I canned the servers due to that fact of oweing $1,000 and losing money because of chargebacks/refunds that everyone wanted. You failed to read the TOS/AUP/Privacy Policy. I didn't get banned on WHT completely. I will come back without a hosting company though. I won't respond to personal attacks/bashing like fever host has accomplished anymore. I won't tolerate abusive actions towards me as an indivual. You say that I am a scammer but can you really proove it? All you have is bs to back your claim up.

[JLHC]

He owes them money, he should pay them back immediately, its that simple.