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Cyber
March 24th, 2002, 11:47
what do you think?

f.Bz (http://www.f.bz)
R. K. Raja
March 24th, 2002, 12:00
It doesn't load for me but nice domain ;)
Cyber
March 24th, 2002, 12:00
you sure it doesnt load?
R. K. Raja
March 24th, 2002, 12:02
Oh now it does, but the bg loads slow.

The window is way too small. It's unique but too hard to read in there.

Nice try...
Cyber
March 24th, 2002, 12:03
did you maximize the window?
Giancarlo
March 24th, 2002, 12:04
Clean, crisp design but there are some faults...

- The background takes ages to load, even on ADSL. You ought to reduce the size.
- Table is too small for 1152X864 Resolution.
- Clean design... right to the point

Graphics/Style: 9 out of 10
Design/Layout: 7 out of 10 (Optimize for Higher resolutions, and I will put it at 9 out of 10)

Overall: 8.5 out of 10 (85% - Not an average, but what I think overall)
R. K. Raja
March 24th, 2002, 12:05
Originally posted by Cyber
did you maximize the window?

Yes I did, but its still way too small.
Cyber
March 24th, 2002, 12:08
ok, so later today i'll make the window bigger

yay! i got a good rating! :biggrin2:
manni
March 24th, 2002, 12:50
Nice layout but background isn't that fast to load on my V.90 modem connection. Very good URL.
Dusty
March 24th, 2002, 13:04
Umm... hmm. Yeah... I assume you've only look at it in IE, right?

Well, one thing I can comment on, it's awfully slow loading.
Bruce
March 24th, 2002, 13:06
What's with the empty grey box in the center of the page? :confused:

It's pretty slow even on ADSL.
R. K. Raja
March 24th, 2002, 13:23
Originally posted by Bruce
What's with the empty grey box in the center of the page? :confused:

It's pretty slow even on ADSL.

Guess its only for IE. :rolleyes:
There's supposed to be an IFRAME in that box...
meow
March 24th, 2002, 14:16
:rolleyes: All the major modern browsers support iframe. :p

Cyber, it looks very nice but...

A. You can't use a background image that's close to half a MEG. It would probably be smaller as JPG and either format you choose OPTIMIZE it.

B. The iframe doesn't show up in some browsers because of the table sizes. You use % in a way that makes the tables kinda eat the iframe. Lose all sizes in tables and size the iframe directly instead. In fact you could lose almost all tables since they fill no purpose. ( The only one needed is the one that gives the bgcolor and a border. The only browser that needs a table for that is Netscape4 though and that one don't get the iframe anyway, but that's another story.)

C. LINK TO THE SHOUTER PAGE BETWEEN THE IFRAME TAGS. Then not even Jan can complain. :biggrin2:

Suggestion: make a smaller window pop up onload with the content you have in the index now. Or limit the background to part of the page. You must get the size of that background down somehow.
Cyber
March 24th, 2002, 16:08
ok, i got it.

i cut the bg down from 436kb to 33.5kb (thank you JPGs!!)

i made the content window a set size, so it doesn't shrink (even tho i use %'s inside the main table)


hows that now?
Giancarlo
March 24th, 2002, 16:10
Much better... it loads instantly now... see what a JPG can do to help.... what format were you using btw? BMP?
Dusty
March 24th, 2002, 16:11
Ah, much faster now. Still don't see the frame's contents, though. Make sure you've set the height and width of the <td> it's in to 100% and 100% if you're using percents for the frame.
meow
March 24th, 2002, 16:24
Much better! But still only works in IE. Put the sizes in the <ifame> tag and take away the sizes in the tables. They will shrink to fit the iframe anyway.

You basically only need to center the whole page and have one table around the iframe for the border and bgcolor. You don't need a table to center the image and the text.

<body>
<div align="center">
[--your image and top text--}

<table border="1" bgcolor="#xxxxxx" cellpadding="" cellspacing="">
<tr>
<td>
<iframe src="" width="" height="" framborder="1">
<a href="">View my Shouter</a>
</iframe>
</td><tr></table>

[---your bottom stuff ---]
</div>
</body>
Cyber
March 24th, 2002, 18:36
yet again i've modified the code to what meow said. it should be good now.

:classic2:
cheatpark
March 24th, 2002, 18:41
I don't like sites with frames. Its way too small anyway.

<edit>Your site don't work in nutscrape version 4 or mozilla. I guess they don't like frames. </edit>
Cyber
March 24th, 2002, 18:43
you seem to be the only one...

:confused2
trenzterra
March 24th, 2002, 18:44
Comments:
-Main page loads slow
-I-Frame too small, and what are you going to do with the remaining space?
-More graphics please

Design: 820/1000
Organised: 900/1000
Graphics: 400/1000
Speed: 890/1000

Overall(Including Speed): 753/1000, 75%
Overall(Excluding Speed): 707/1000, 71%
meow
March 24th, 2002, 18:46
Originally posted by cheatpark
I don't like sites with frames. Its way too small anyway.

<edit>Your site don't work in nutscrape version 4 or mozilla. I guess they don't like frames. </edit>
Then you guess wrong as you would have known if you had read this thread.
Netscape4 doesn't handle IFRAME which is not the same thing as FRAMES.
Cyber
March 24th, 2002, 18:51
take another look :confused2
cheatpark
March 24th, 2002, 18:52
Thats true meow but iframes are similar to frames. Why are they called iframes if they are not similar? Also you got one thing wrong the iframe does work in opera.
Dusty
March 24th, 2002, 19:04
Also you got one thing wrong the iframe does work in opera.What did you see when Meow wrote "All the major modern browsers support iframe"?

It works in Mozilla now (and therefore it also does Netscape 6.x).

<edit: left out the "does">
trenzterra
March 24th, 2002, 19:04
actually I think I-frames worked for me on Netscape 4.75
Dusty
March 24th, 2002, 19:06
Support for iFrame was added in the beta (and only) version of Netscape 5.0. It was never part of 4.x.
meow
March 24th, 2002, 19:06
Works in O6 too. Congratualtions Cyber. :biggrin2:
cheatpark
March 24th, 2002, 19:06
Originally posted by Dusty
What did you see when Meow wrote "All the major modern browsers support iframe"?

It works in Mozilla now (and therefore it also Netscape 6.x).
True but did you hear meow also say:


Much better! But still only works in IE.

Explain that. :p
Cyber
March 24th, 2002, 19:10
Originally posted by meow
Works in O6 too. Congratualtions Cyber. :biggrin2:

thanx a lot meow!
meow
March 24th, 2002, 19:11
Sometimes I fear that you are plain stupid cheatpark :confused2

Cyber, take this crap away:
please download a browser that supports iframes (Internet Explorer)

Put a link to the page in there instead. Guys who use Netscape4 (Jan) know that it's old. They've chosen to use it anyway (Jan). They don't, or shouldn't, expect that everything looks dandy to them (but Jan does). All you need to do to make your site work for them is to link to the damn' page. :devious2:
Dusty
March 24th, 2002, 19:13
Explain that. :pExplain bringing previous and unrelated material into an argument about your claim of Netscape's non-support for frames.

Telling Meow he's wrong about Opera support adds nothing to an argument about Netscape's frame support. Are you admitting to having brought irrelevant side-topics in to distract from your obviously wrong accusation?

Cyber: It works fine now, but my only new comment is it's very, very small.
trenzterra
March 24th, 2002, 19:23
Originally posted by Dusty
Support for iFrame was added in the beta (and only) version of Netscape 5.0. It was never part of 4.x. but it worked for me. One hosting service used I-frames for ads and it loaded properly.
meow
March 24th, 2002, 19:23
:rolleyes:
I have never said that iframe doesn't work in Opera. I said that Cyber's iframe didn't to start with. That was the whole purpose if this - to get the thing to work in Opera and Moz.
Dusty
March 24th, 2002, 19:34
but it worked for me. One hosting service used I-frames for ads and it loaded properly....most likely because there was an alternative ad inside the <iframe></iframe> tag. Like stuff between <--------></--------> shows up in browsers which don't support frames, whatever you put inside the <iframe> tag will be seen in browsers that don't support iFrames. Netscape 4.x does not support iFrames.
meow
March 24th, 2002, 20:17
Tell that to the little Microsoft evangelist Cyber. Now he has put this in there. :biggrin2:

You need a browser that supports iframes, such as: <a href="www.microsoft.com">Internet Explorer</a><br>Why? 'Cuz ya wanna view my site!<
*meow spanks Cyber vigorously with a boxed copy of Mozilla* :p
cheatpark
March 24th, 2002, 22:18
For once I agree with meow. :biggrin2: I think you should not use iframes and use some sort of normal html page or use something like php.
shizzle
March 24th, 2002, 22:44
I dont like Iframes..hard to bookmark different pages...
meow
March 24th, 2002, 23:00
Originally posted by cheatpark
For once I agree with meow. :biggrin2: I think you should not use iframes and use some sort of normal html page or use something like php.
:rolleyes:
No you don't.

I'm saying that he should provide a link to main.php between the iframe tags instead of the link to Micro----. That way Jan can read and add to the shoutcast thingie should she want to. To prove my point I just posted a message there using LYNX.
leetcrew
March 29th, 2002, 00:14
nice background. :)