Unprofessional act by StoneRocket admins

[veivei]

I recently sign up with stonerocket, tried to get a free hosting there to test things out with some CMS.
Things worked out fine until tonight I got a warning message about one of my post on their forum.

Please read carefully on this topic: http://www.stonerocket.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=14493
Just in case the post is removed, please take a look at this image (http://lh5.ggpht.com/_P7N8eWC7_G4/SiLW_FU2daI/AAAAAAAAAI0/pzGfLS-N_bs/s800/stonerocket.jpg).

After the guy locked the forum, I post another one explaining that I didn't mean to attack him through a forum post. I just want to make it clear that I didn't do anything wrong and want my warning removed. And want them to consider the post as a member comment to improve the community in the future but I don't think they want to listen.

Then I was banned permanently with a reason of Childish Behavior after posting another topic explaining that the admins should've more friendly and open minded on any issues because I post what I have in mind on the right sub-forum (Comments & Suggestions).

Comments and Suggestions
We value your opinion! Please say your likes and dislikes in here and please suggest ways to improve StoneRocket

They're really not valued my opinion, they're doesn't want any open discussion about their admin's actions and decided just to give me a permanent ban.
I don't feel it's right, but I don't have the power to make things right there if the administrators are acted like that. Give warnings, lock discussion, ban people without any valid reason just because they have power to do that. Now who's being childish here?

This kind of thing can be avoided if we're all stay chill and open minded on any discussion.
And since I don't think that I will welcomed back there I would suggest them to be more fair to their members, and stick to the rules they made (I don't see that) to establish a good community.

*this post does not mean to advertise other free hosting provider.
*I've also post on various forum discussion because once again I want to make it clear and I don't feel like being treated fair as a member at StoneRocket.

[stonerocket]

Sorry you feel that way, I hope you have more success with another provider.

[.Bobby]

Maybe it's just me, but I don't see any effort in the Hosting Provider trying to rectify, or explain the situation to the customer.

[veivei]

Sorry you feel that way, I hope you have more success with another provider.

Absolutely, because most provider have alot better staff than dissapointing stonerocket administrators especially un4saken who just showing off his admin power. And most provider will value any opinions, not locking the thread or even ban their member just because they don't like the comments / opinions. Once again, who's acting childish? Either un4saken or some other stonerocket admins still have to learn alot more on managing their members.
Would such "experts" append a GTFO below warnings?


Maybe it's just me, but I don't see any effort in the Hosting Provider trying to rectify, or explain the situation to the customer.

I don't think that's going to happen due to their unprofessional attitude. And because it's already happen & they don't have anything to say at all :confused4

[Secret]

I just read their message. They used "GTFO". OMG... Is that how you speak to members? ...

[~ServerPoint~]

Sorry you feel that way, I hope you have more success with another provider.

I think that you need to think that you need to work with admins on the way comunicating with people. That is very important
Such theads only hurt your reputation

[.Bobby]

Let me repharse what I said earlier. Those admins either have a damn huge ego, or they just simply think they've got too many members, and don't need any more.

All in all, if Stonerocket Staff doesn't do something about the current way they handle customers, they'll find all their customers flocking to other competitors.

[~ServerPoint~]

Let me repharse what I said earlier. Those admins either have a damn huge ego, or they just simply think they've got too many members, and don't need any more.

All in all, if Stonerocket Staff doesn't do something about the current way they handle customers, they'll find all their customers flocking to other competitors.

I agree. And as I have said above that is not what make them attractive. Especially for the new customers

[GlennBeforeTime]

It is unfortunate that such an act has occoured and I strongly recommend you (Chris) to look into this matter. I know that some of the admin team run SR on your behalf. But it is the reputation of your child, your own creation, that is at stake. And I'm reccommending this as a Friend because I don't want to see a message saying Stonerocket has closed down. I believe that a new restructure is at stake. I'm more then happy to give you some suggestions as I have done in the past.

[veivei]

Some of the admins are nice, but I'm not sure about the others.
:shame:
It will have some bad effect to stonerocket reputation. I would suggest to demote any unprofessional admins.

[stonerocket]

explain the situation to the customer.

Customer ???

You know guys we get a bad review once in a while, you cannot make everyone happy you also get those who make it their mission to blast you.

Seen it all before, dont care much for it.. I stand by my staff, blast them! you have to go, They work hard and are volunteers.

Its easier to get rid of the distruptive members than have your staff team breathing down your neck. All host admins should know that by now.

[Secret]

Customer ???

You know guys we get a bad review once in a while, you cannot make everyone happy you also get those who make it their mission to blast you.

Seen it all before, dont care much for it.. I stand by my staff, blast them! you have to go, They work hard and are volunteers.

Its easier to get rid of the distruptive members than have your staff team breathing down your neck. All host admins should know that by now.

To some extent, I must agree with you. Sometimes, it is necessary to do that.

However, using "GTFO" is hardly acceptable. It is, considerably, a childish behavior.

Thanks.

[.Bobby]

Customer ???

You know guys we get a bad review once in a while, you cannot make everyone happy you also get those who make it their mission to blast you.

Seen it all before, dont care much for it.. I stand by my staff, blast them! you have to go, They work hard and are volunteers.

Its easier to get rid of the distruptive members than have your staff team breathing down your neck. All host admins should know that by now.

Yes, that's for sure. The thing is, are you doing your part? If you've done your best, and your customers still try to find fault with you, then it can't be helped. However, from the aforementioned quotes, and references, it seems like StoneRocket Admins have no regard for their customers. When a customer voices an opinion, he gets "Banned", or something to that effect. From the thread quoted above, I don't see the 'Lead Admin' of StoneRocket explaining to the User as to why his account was suspended for no rhyme or reason. That's not in the professional code of ethics.


To some extent, I must agree with you. Sometimes, it is necessary to do that.

However, using "GTFO" is hardly acceptable. It is, considerably, a childish behavior.

Thanks.

I've nothing much to say, except, I agree.

[veivei]

Customer ???

You know guys we get a bad review once in a while, you cannot make everyone happy you also get those who make it their mission to blast you.

Seen it all before, dont care much for it.. I stand by my staff, blast them! you have to go, They work hard and are volunteers.

Its easier to get rid of the distruptive members than have your staff team breathing down your neck. All host admins should know that by now.

Did I make a bad review? Let's just the TRUTH speaks by itself!

Let me get you the details once again:

I post a joke thread at SR forum with a title "ADULT ONLY...", which contains no adult material at all, only a link to this website (http://killerjo.net) (which is a normal joke on any other forums).
Then un4saken sent me a warning message with unnecessary word "GTFO".
I don't feel like doing anything wrong by posting the thread, and annoyed by the word GTFO. So I asked for warning removal and opinions from the other staff & members by post another thread on "comment & suggestion".
un4saken replied the thread and saying something like "I'm sick of this childish behavior.." then he locked the thread.
I still don't feel it's right because I didn't attack or swearing to other members/staff or post anything against their forum rules. So I open up another thread about this on the same section, "comments & suggestions"
After posted another thread, I got a permanent ban.


Now think again who's acting childish? I don't have any mission to blast SR at all. Who's blasting at me first by saying GTFO???? Did I reply him back with another harsh words on the forum? NO!! Did I attack him on the forum? NO!
Read again the whole story, and which part of my writing that's really explain that I attack him personally?
I only sounds my opinion, I don't feel myself as a disruptive member as YOU SAY, you're clearly don't want to listen to anyone's opinion about this and act one sided to defend one of your admin, this is what I call childish.

Almost all free host admins are volunteer and also work hard, and most of them know what to do to handle situations, especially how to make a good example to their members. Not by saying GTFO inside their message!

You guys are too funny to make things too seriously just because it's all started by a joke thread, and I think that un4saken didn't really read the joke thread and decided to warn me just because he saw "Adult..." title.

[JonnyH]

Customer ???

You know guys we get a bad review once in a while, you cannot make everyone happy you also get those who make it their mission to blast you.

Seen it all before, dont care much for it.. I stand by my staff, blast them! you have to go, They work hard and are volunteers.

Its easier to get rid of the distruptive members than have your staff team breathing down your neck. All host admins should know that by now.
Your statement there is true, they are hard working volunteers but that doesn't mean the standards of customer support goes down with it. It doesn't take any extra effort to talk to your clients like they should be talked to. One bad review hurts, I think you know that.

I think you should talk to your admin staff, because I'm sure alot of people won't visit you because of this.

[ganesh.rao]

Big bump in PR for StoneRocket!

You guys seriously need some class for this.

[Razerst]

While they are still on the top it is not necessary to do that. They will do something different when they are in the bottom. Maybe it's just a matter of time. Everything can be happen.

[iwin2000]

StoneRocket sucks, they are a horrible service, I'd rather go with freewebs rofl.

[kirby145]

Last time I used stonerocket they seemed fine and nice, that was a long time ago, but now I'm looking at this and it doesn't even seem to be the same people.

[stonerocket]

It hurts to see replies like this, My role in SR is SEO and Promotion, And pay the server bills.



We may not be perfect but we do try.

[M Bacon]

It hurts to see replies like this, My role in SR is SEO and Promotion, And pay the server bills.



We may not be perfect but we do try.

Don't worry about it. You can't please everyone. You can always try to do better.

[Sain Cai]

Any company that will offer services, free or otherwise, should act in a professional way. If in any of my myriad of sites I have had over the years, I had an admin or moderator treat a member, regardless of how immature, obscene, whatever they were like that, they would be relieved of duties, period.

Seeing the first couple posts by stonerocket, that makes me never to even attempt to get hosting of any kind there. Hosts get bad review by people, its part of business. But when you support the actions of a disruptive and unprofessional forum admin, its easier to dismiss said admin then subject yourself and company to the extremely bad PR now gotten in this thread, putting off several potential customers.

[M Bacon]

I didn't read the full thread until now. After reading this thread, did the admin get demoted? I think the admin was smoking some crack. When you have a hosting community, your supposed to gain clients. Not lose them.

Did you do more than apologize in this thread? You should unban the guy that you guys banned.

[theraptor]

It hurts to see replies like this, My role in SR is SEO and Promotion, And pay the server bills.

We may not be perfect but we do try.

Well what did you expect? That he was going to crawl down a hole and die? If you are going to do that to your members, you'd better be that they are going to do something like this.

This is what is wrong here:

1: the admin gave the user an infraction for something he probably didn't deserve it for(but maybe he did), and did not give reason.
2: the user creates a thread asking the opinion of the other admins about this, and the admin permabans him.
3: the user comes to freewebspace.net forums(and others) and posts his experience here, where thousands of people can see it. the lead admin(who is also in charge of PR/Promotion, instead of apologizing to the user or giving a counterargument, says " Sorry you feel that way, I hope you have more success with another provider."... thats not really going to endear you to customers after they read that...
4: and from your about us page: "Friendly Web Master Community"... i don't know what you are talking about there because NOTHING you have said so far to this customer was friendly.

[JonnyH]

It hurts to see replies like this, My role in SR is SEO and Promotion, And pay the server bills.



We may not be perfect but we do try.
I bet it does, well, there's alot you can do to help then (:

[somik]

I was hosted by SR too. Must say i was banned in a simillar manner too. My username was (as it is on EVERY forum) somik. I did not spam. Did not post adult content, nor had any issue with any of the staff members, or normal members.

One fine day, i got a mail that i was banned from the server. It was a parmanent ban. I emailed the admin there to ask why i was banned. No reply. I submitted a contact form, still no reply...

I finally signed up with another username and asked why i was banned. They told me that it was because i had a link to my website in my signature, which was a webhosting company... Then they banned that account too...

I only joined the forum cause i was too bored and had nothing to do. I did not request any hosting either. Still if they ban people without so much as a warning, i guess they just think they are good, while in reality:


StoneRocket forums are run by cry babies...


Now i advice people i know to avoid StoneRocket hosting, along with 000web, cause they both suck.

If i really could, i would like to see the admin/mods face to face to check if they really are babies or not!

From Somik.
Admin of Hostwoot.com
SuperMod of Meekhost.com
SuperMod of Tubehosting.co.uk
SuperMod of MyDomainFree.com
Former SuperMod of FridayHosting.com
Former Admin of Coolhost.in

[Schmarvin]

Just noticed something. If this is all true, then the StoneRocket admins and staff should be doing everything they can to keep people happy. Besides the fact that they should be giving respect at all times, even if the person or persons do not return it.

It is called ethics. Whether you have it or not definitely affects the host. Just because you are too lazy to make everything happy means that you do not care for the hosted persons and therefore make yourself a bad host. Why would a person host with you if you are not able to keep peace or even attempt to?

In my opinion, get a backbone, support your host, and get some ethics.

[.Bobby]

Just noticed something. If this is all true, then the StoneRocket admins and staff should be doing everything they can to keep people happy. Besides the fact that they should be giving respect at all times, even if the person or persons do not return it.

It is called ethics. Whether you have it or not definitely affects the host. Just because you are too lazy to make everything happy means that you do not care for the hosted persons and therefore make yourself a bad host. Why would a person host with you if you are not able to keep peace or even attempt to?

In my opinion, get a backbone, support your host, and get some ethics.

Yes, you got the nail on the head! You just said everything I wanted to say. We should actually thank OP for creating this thread - which brought to light the many unsatisfied customers, and their factual stories about StoneRocket.

They've gotten a big bump in PR, but, unfortunately for them, in the opposite way most Hosting Companies would want it to be in.


If i really could, i would like to see the admin/mods face to face to check if they really are babies or not!

From Somik.
Admin of Hostwoot.com
SuperMod of Meekhost.com
SuperMod of Tubehosting.co.uk
SuperMod of MyDomainFree.com
Former SuperMod of FridayHosting.com
Former Admin of Coolhost.in

Well... you didn't have to actually list that. We're just having casual chat.

[Secret]

I finally signed up with another username and asked why i was banned. They told me that it was because i had a link to my website in my signature, which was a webhosting company... Then they banned that account too...

Can that link be considered as SR's competitor? (is it also a free web hosting?)

If yes, I must say that it's your fault.

You should never, ever, 'advertise' (in any manner) a competitor on one's place. It's like placing another country's flag on the white house without permission. It's just hardly acceptable...

Imagine if SR does the same in your web host... How will you feel?

I have several members, staff & owners from another web hosting company (free & paid), truly competitors, in my forum. However, they never put any link, of any kind, anywhere, about their host. They don't even put the host's name.

If no, then SR's action is just totally unnecessary.

That's my view & opinion about your case.

[somik]

My website is http://www.somik.org/ and as you can see, its a Website Showcase. I dont host any users there. Only my friends in real life and my family members. Its not open to public since i try to avoid the issue of abuse. I have about 30 sites on that reseller accounts, all by me, and i dont want to risk them by providing free or paid hosting.




Well... you didn't have to actually list that. We're just having casual chat.

Well, it was to show that i am not the type of member who goes from webhost to webhost just to abuse its services or post spam.

[.Bobby]

You should never, ever, 'advertise' (in any manner) a competitor on one's place. It's like placing another country's flag on the white house without permission. It's just hardly acceptable...

Well, SR Admins could have simply sent a PM to the user in question and request a removal of the link(s) within a specified period of time, or get removed from the site altogether. An immediate Banishment from the site altogether, is unnecessary then.

[Secret]

Well, SR Admins could have simply sent a PM to the user in question and request a removal of the link(s) within a specified period of time, or get removed from the site altogether. An immediate Banishment from the site altogether, is unnecessary then.

That really depends on the person... What I normally do when I find "inappropriate" signature is remove the signature & kindly inform the member.

However, different places have different policies... In my site, that's what I do... in SR, it might be different... I can't really blame SR for that...

That's just my opinion... :)

Cheers :beer:

[.Bobby]

That really depends on the person... What I normally do when I find "inappropriate" signature is remove the signature & kindly inform the member.

However, different places have different policies... In my site, that's what I do... in SR, it might be different... I can't really blame SR for that...

That's just my opinion... :)

Cheers :beer:
Yeah, I share your views. Afterall, those Admins have direct control to delete anything they find an eyesore right? (around the forums at least, with/without discretion) Is permanent Banishment the only way out?

[Secret]

Exactly.... and what's acceptable for me does not necessarily have to be acceptable for them... They can do whatever they want with their forum... No one can complaint... You don't like it, you move to another web host... right?

If you don't like a web host, you can always come to my web host, right? :P :P :P No one's forcing you to stay there...

[.Bobby]

Indeed. Words of wisdom from a Hosting Guru (Secret). :P

[Squad-Host.com]

I love drama, very interesting thread. Totaly disagree with stone rocket, should of handled it alot better, admin that banned should be demoted/temaray suspension. Ceo should apolagize and unban so the pr will not go down. So i guess stonerocket goes agenst what they say they are all about, so sad.

Dam i am retarded, i lost my spell checker on firefox, not working uh oh. now every 1 knows im a redneck.

[Secret]

Indeed. Words of wisdom from a Hosting Guru (Secret). :P

:angel:


...admin that banned should be demoted/temaray suspension...

I quite disagree with that... I will not demote the admin who banned the OP as long as he is willing to change.

He learned a lesson, he gained something valuable. He's now a valuable 'asset' to the company.

Am I right? :)

[.Bobby]

I love drama, very interesting thread. Totaly disagree with stone rocket, should of handled it alot better, admin that banned should be demoted/temaray suspension. Ceo should apolagize and unban so the pr will not go down. So i guess stonerocket goes agenst what they say they are all about, so sad.

Dam i am retarded, i lost my spell checker on firefox, not working uh oh. now every 1 knows im a redneck.

Lol. It seems like firefox had taken it away. I'd reinstall my firefox later on and see if there's any difference.

Guess we shouldn't get too off topic.



I quite disagree with that... I will not demote the admin who banned the OP as long as he is willing to change.



He learned a lesson, he gained something valuable. He's now a valuable 'asset' to the company.



Am I right?

Yeah, I agree with you. When a Staff Member makes a mistake, he would feel more concious of his actions in the following term of his. This makes him, usually, better than other Staff Members in terms of competency, as, like mentioned above, he does not want to make another mistake.

[somik]

What is the warnings for? They cant just ban someone who just wants to post on their forum! I wasn't even spamming or advertising!


And noone read my posts :(


My website is http://www.somik.org/ and as you can see, its a Website Showcase. I dont host any users there. Only my friends in real life and my family members. Its not open to public since i try to avoid the issue of abuse. I have about 30 sites on that reseller accounts, all by me, and i dont want to risk them by providing free or paid hosting.

http://www.freewebspace.net/forums/showpost.php?p=1067639&postcount=30

[Secret]

What is the warnings for? They cant just ban someone who just wants to post on their forum! I wasn't even spamming or advertising!

And noone read my posts :(


Yes, I read your post...


My website is http://www.somik.org/ and as you can see, its a Website Showcase. I dont host any users there. Only my friends in real life and my family members. Its not open to public since i try to avoid the issue of abuse. I have about 30 sites on that reseller accounts, all by me, and i dont want to risk them by providing free or paid hosting.

Really? Everyone will think differently after seeing your site... Especially after seeing the "Get Hosted" link which is pointing to http://www.somik.org/register/ :classic2:

Check out this page.... http://www.somik.org/register/order/ What impression do you get from this? Does your site looks like what you just described?


Advertising other Free Web Hosting Sites is not acceptable in the forum or in your website hosted for free by Stonerocket , You will get a warning by one of the staff members once , next time will result in forum ban and account termination .
(Taken from SR's forum rules: http://www.stonerocket.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10)

Hmmm... Have you done this once or twice?

If once, then SR's staff don't even read their own rules... :shame:
If twice, then you deserve it... :angel:

[Sain Cai]

This is somak's sig: Visit my portal site at: http://www.somik.org/ or play flash games at: http://windowgate.net/

Looks like he was posting for a while and then got banned.

[Meksilon]

I post a joke thread at SR forum with a title "ADULT ONLY...", which contains no adult material at all, only a link to this website (which is a normal joke on any other forums).Dude I don't appreciate my speakers screeching like that, no wonder your post was deleted.

[.Bobby]

Dude I don't appreciate my speakers screeching like that, no wonder your post was deleted.

Then, the Ban?

[somik]

Really? Everyone will think differently after seeing your site... Especially after seeing the "Get Hosted" link which is pointing to http://www.somik.org/register/ :classic2:

Check out this page.... http://www.somik.org/register/order/ What impression do you get from this? Does your site looks like what you just described?


(Taken from SR's forum rules: http://www.stonerocket.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10)

Hmmm... Have you done this once or twice?

If once, then SR's staff don't even read their own rules... :shame:
If twice, then you deserve it... :angel:

That link is using THT, which came out WAY after i got banned in 2007 or 08. And it was a mistake. Thanks for finding it. It doesn't work anyway. Link and folder deleted :)

My site always has been a simple Website Showcase site. I DO NOT offer hosting, free or paid. I only offer to those who really need it (like i just offered to a guy on this forum, and he is my first hostee since 2008!).

Oh, back when i posted on SR forums, i didn't even have a webhosting offer! LOL! It was more then one year ago!





This is somak's sig: Visit my portal site at: http://www.somik.org/ or play flash games at: http://windowgate.net/

Looks like he was posting for a while and then got banned.

Somik....

And yea, it sayd "PORTAL SITE", which was my old name for my website showcase.

I was there for a month.

[mehdicik]

I was hosted by SR too. Must say i was banned in a simillar manner too. My username was (as it is on EVERY forum) somik. I did not spam. Did not post adult content, nor had any issue with any of the staff members, or normal members.

One fine day, i got a mail that i was banned from the server. It was a parmanent ban. I emailed the admin there to ask why i was banned. No reply. I submitted a contact form, still no reply...

I finally signed up with another username and asked why i was banned. They told me that it was because i had a link to my website in my signature, which was a webhosting company... Then they banned that account too...

I only joined the forum cause i was too bored and had nothing to do. I did not request any hosting either. Still if they ban people without so much as a warning, i guess they just think they are good, while in reality:


StoneRocket forums are run by cry babies...


Now i advice people i know to avoid StoneRocket hosting, along with 000web, cause they both suck.

If i really could, i would like to see the admin/mods face to face to check if they really are babies or not!

I registered here just to tell this.
You offered me free hosting by private message on stonerocket, then i forwarded it to admins. You deserved to be banned.

[Secret]

I registered here just to tell this.
You offered me free hosting by private message on stonerocket, then i forwarded it to admins. You deserved to be banned.

Well, somik, you really need to buy a mirror before you talk about SR, don't you? :devious2:

[Razerst]

This thread is getting hot. Wow! I love these conversation. :D

[Secret]

This thread is getting hot. Wow! I love these conversation. :D

Indeed :) It is really funny to see how someone can say bad things about others without even thinking about what he/she has done.... LOL :D

[.Bobby]

Indeed :) It is really funny to see how someone can say bad things about others without even thinking about what he/she has done.... LOL :D

Agreed. Nothing much to add.

[Secret]

Now, we can see that SR does not ban people without a clear cause, right? (At least, not always :P )

[Darknight]

when I had a post2host most ppl just did what they wanted, we let ppl rage if they wanted to as its funny to watch, however we never told anyone to GTFO, unless it was a spambot ban.

[stonerocket]

We are working on improving our services and relations with hostee`s, But theres too many ungrateful people around who bounce around from host to host that never use their account in most cases!

I think us host admins resurrect the free host`s alliance!

Another thing thats annoys me, you some some hostee`s that are very experienced in managing their hosting accounts, so you take many hours of your own free time to help them out and they decide to jump host and slag you off. I could go on with a long list of similar stories.

People you need to learn your getting a service that it free! Free hosting has evolved from the geocities days, maybe you would like it to go back that way?

[Secret]

when I had a post2host most ppl just did what they wanted, we let ppl rage if they wanted to as its funny to watch, however we never told anyone to GTFO, unless it was a spambot ban.

I don't do that.... Bots have feelings too :P :P :P just kidding...


We are working on improving our services and relations with hostee`s, But theres too many ungrateful people around who bounce around from host to host that never use their account in most cases!

I think us host admins resurrect the free host`s alliance!

Another thing thats annoys me, you some some hostee`s that are very experienced in managing their hosting accounts, so you take many hours of your own free time to help them out and they decide to jump host and slag you off. I could go on with a long list of similar stories.

People you need to learn your getting a service that it free! Free hosting has evolved from the geocities days, maybe you would like it to go back that way?

Isn't that the main point of post2host? With post2host, you can easily control inactive accounts, right? (in addition to getting money from the ads) I don't know how you do it in SR, but in SF, we have no problem with that...

[Darknight]

oh yeah, we just use to ban them ones lol.
But with a msg like not welcome here.

Just keep it professional in your msg's and no one can -----.

[Secret]

oh yeah, we just use to ban them ones lol.
But with a msg like not welcome here.

Just keep it professional in your msg's and no one can -----.

Yeah, basically, I simply do that... just ban....

Btw, about your sig, if you have nothing to put there, you can put my site - just copy my current sig :P LOL

[ExpertWebHost]

These things make me remember the days when i used to use Free hosting.

[toad]

I think us host admins resurrect the free host`s alliance!
I actually started and ran a hosting alliance up until I left the scene a couple years ago due to health reasons.

However I have since returned and among other projects on my plate right now I've actually been considering
reviving the old alliance and bad client RBL network to track bad hosting users and the applicant verification
system we used to run. Although, I am not sure there would be any interested in bringing back any of this
by any of the current hosts out there.

However, I would agree to sponsor the project if I thought there might be enough interest though! ;)

[Efil]

I am currently busy coding on some kind of a database that could be useful for that, but my progress is rather slow...I'd be interested to join the alliance and offer the software solution once I have tested it on my server...and our server's server forever.