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Becoming a webhost?

agiantdwarf
March 29th, 2002, 12:57
Hey, I was wondering how you do this. I have a fast cable connection, 20 gigs of free space. How would one go around learning how to become a web host?

MN-Carl
March 29th, 2002, 13:00
http://www.mchost.com > Signup there or

http://www.splashhost.com

good for newbies :)

you have to pay ... but using a Cable connection aint good !!

agiantdwarf
March 29th, 2002, 13:02
Even if it is only for me, and get about 500 visitors a day? No downloads either. Why then would cable be so bad?

What I'm saying is, can you make your PC into a server?

netDB
March 29th, 2002, 13:25
http://dslwebserver.com

roly
March 29th, 2002, 18:54
cable is good:)
Install Mandrake Linux (http://www.linuxiso.org/mandrake.html) and get it on the 'net
Install Apache, mod_ssl and OpenSSL (http://www.modssl.org/example/)
Install Genesis (http://www.xav.com/scripts/genesis/) or HomeFree (http://solutionscripts.com/vault/homefree)

roly
March 29th, 2002, 18:55
Originally posted by cdudeuk18
http://www.mchost.com > Signup there or

http://www.splashhost.com

good for newbies :)

you have to pay ... but using a Cable connection aint good !!
they are web hosts:rolleyes:

cheatpark
March 29th, 2002, 19:50
Originally posted by roly
cable is good:)
Install Mandrake Linux (http://www.linuxiso.org/mandrake.html) and get it on the 'net
Install Apache, mod_ssl and OpenSSL (http://www.modssl.org/example/)
Install Genesis (http://www.xav.com/scripts/genesis/) or HomeFree (http://solutionscripts.com/vault/homefree)
Cable sucks. Get a reseller package (but don't go with donhost) or you can buy a dedicated server from someone like http://www.rackshack.net . By the way I think this thread is in the wrong forum. Or maybe it isn't. :confused2

Daniel
March 29th, 2002, 20:26
Originally posted by agiantdwarf
Even if it is only for me, and get about 500 visitors a day? No downloads either. Why then would cable be so bad?

What I'm saying is, can you make your PC into a server?

Too slow...Trust me, for a site as big as yours, you should have at least a t1.

leetcrew
March 29th, 2002, 20:29
You need an isp who provide _static_ ip address. (or else you will not have a mail server.)

Daniel
March 29th, 2002, 20:37
Originally posted by leetcrew
You need an isp who provide _static_ ip address. (or else you will not have a mail server.)

you don't have to...just have your computer on 24/7

cheatpark
March 29th, 2002, 21:18
Originally posted by Daniel


you don't have to...just have your computer on 24/7
But what if you get disconnected and then reconnect? Your i.p. will change. :(

guitarnerd
March 29th, 2002, 21:58
That is why I don't like cable, I have a static IP just for hosting off my web server. It is slow but it is not bad at all.

www.dns2go.com that should get you started

wolfknightx
March 30th, 2002, 08:56
There are a few ways to handle the IP address changes. One way is to use dyndns with a program called directupdate...supported on unix, win32, vms, and mac. When your ip changes, it will change your dyndns name as well. Just alias your dyndns name with a CNAME on the dns to you domain name and you'll be ok.

Do the same with your DNS file with your MX and CNAME records for your mail server, and you can run a mail server just as well dynamically. If your IP should ever change while mail is delivered, it will be redelivered to the host name...which will retranslate to your new IP if the mail package is rejected and resent by a relay/email server.

there are a few ways to grab a static ip with cox and time warner, nut i'm sure the mods will pull my post if i discuss them...the web just isn't what it used to be...hope the above is helpful!

Wolfknight

leetcrew
March 31st, 2002, 02:35
Originally posted by guitarnerd
That is why I don't like cable, I have a static IP just for hosting off my web server. It is slow but it is not bad at all.

www.dns2go.com that should get you started

how about hosting a multiple domain name? You may use it if you will host 1 domain only.. hmm, u still need a static ip for name servers.. web have a webhost.

Moonman
March 31st, 2002, 03:18
hey wolfknight, can you PM me on how to do that.

guitarnerd
April 2nd, 2002, 00:21
500/per day=21/per hour=1 per 3 min let's say each visitor stays on average 6 minutes. Since he has cable he is probably on 128kb upstream which gives each user on average a 64kb bandwidth. That is very good considering that most users will be on dial up using 10kbps at the most.

GregT
April 2nd, 2002, 00:46
cable is great for me , all i did was not so legally uncap cable modem when it slows down :)

guitarnerd
April 2nd, 2002, 00:52
Uncap? Explain? can I do this with DSL?

GregT
April 2nd, 2002, 01:07
its only for cable , i will find the article for fws.net now :)

GregT
April 2nd, 2002, 02:29
here it is

From: "Matthew S. Hallacy" <poptix@techmonkeys.org>
To: bugtraq@securityfocus.com
Subject: DOCSIS Cable modem vulnerability
Message-ID: <20020311141604.C15166@techmonkeys.org>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i



[Let's try this again..]

1) Pre-ramble

Hi,

I've been sitting on this for a while debating morally
weither or not I should post it. After being lied to by multiple
cable internet companies, told that I'm stupid by cable modem
vendors, and having my access turned off for complaining about
broken DNS i've decided that it's time to post.

2) legal stuff

This is theft of service, you will be probably get caught, don't
do it if you value your cable internet service.

This document is only to be redistributed/copied with the original
text included (including credit to myself).

3) explanation

Companies are out to make money, they hire people with book knowledge,
and stupid things like this happen. (Hi AT&T, your DNS is _still_ broken
even after it was fixed for 2 weeks)

Basicly it's a simple ARP caching thing, it's easy to fix in the modems
and somewhat easy to obscure at the ISP. I'm sure *someone* must have
done this besides me, but from all my searches on the web I've seen
nothing but 'it's impossible' messages, the only people I know that
can do it are people I showed how. I'm sure i'm going to upset those
people by posting this, oh well.

4) Let's get started

Cable modems known to work with this:
3Com Sharkfin (all models)
Motorola (all models)
Toshiba PCX1100
Cisco (?)

Modems that probably don't work:
RCA DCM235
3Com CMX (USR)


First, you need the following:
An operating system with
1) A tftp server,
2) snmp software (I used ucd-snmp),
3) a DOCSIS config file generator such as this one:
http://docsis.sourceforge.net/

5) Go go go.

a) determine the address of the modems TFTP server, some modems
are nice enough to give this info to you on their web interface,
others via SNMP, i've been told that a lot of providers use the
same address as their DHCP servers. Most modems use 192.168.100.1
as their interface address, try to snmpwalk it with the coax
disconnected after rebooting (some retain their config information,
but reset the community strings). (AT&T/MediaOne has 'public'
enabled for the ro string.. go from there)

b) determine the name of the configuration file, use the same methods
as above, or see below if you're running a semi intelligent tftp server.

You need to generate a DOCSIS config file for your modem to use, read
the documentation and examples from the docsis config file program
mentioned above.

c) set the address of your chosen machine to the address of the
tftp server, start pinging the address of the cable modem
(192.168.100.1 usually), this will cause the modem to put
you in its arp tables when you reboot it (reboot it now)

d) the modem will (hopefully) connect to your machine and start
(trying) to download the configuration file, if you couldn't determine
what it was named earlier this is where the smart tftp server comes in,
it should tell you what file name the modem attempted to grab.

e) You're done, easy wasn't it?





  
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