is0lized March 30th, 2002, 10:41 my cable company doesnt allow a server, but this wont be a popular (traffic wise) or a public server for people to use, im going to use it for me to learn how to run a web server
do you think this would be ok?
my cable company is ATT BroadBand Internet
ducktape March 30th, 2002, 12:21 prolly not.
if you dont get alot of traffic they will never know but if you get tons it will throw up flags and they will investigate and prolly kill ur acct
Daniel March 30th, 2002, 13:58 They wont mind, although you do have to use a different port rather then the default one in apache(I forgot what port it is).
ducktape March 30th, 2002, 14:15 why i use port 80 on my cable and it works fine. i only use it for local testing but port 80 the default works for me.
badpenguin March 30th, 2002, 14:38 Originally posted by Daniel
They wont mind, although you do have to use a different port rather then the default one in apache(I forgot what port it is).
It's either 80 or 81. I use 8000; It's only for local testing.
Daniel March 30th, 2002, 15:37 Originally posted by michael p bennett
why i use port 80 on my cable and it works fine. i only use it for local testing but port 80 the default works for me.
Are you on ATT Broadband?
My friend is and he couldn't get his server to work because ATT blocks a certain port.
is0lized March 30th, 2002, 15:48 yeah im on ATT :mad:
i want dsl but its not in this area since its new homes
cheatpark March 31st, 2002, 11:25 Well if you didn't use port 80 I can't see why they wouldn't allow you. Cable and adsl lines are designed to be downloading and uploading constantly. It can't be the bandwidth. Why would they not like it?
badpenguin March 31st, 2002, 11:45 They think they lose money if someone offers free hosting off there adsl servers.
Robert March 31st, 2002, 12:17 Awhile back there was the Code Red Worm threat and *most* ISPS blocked Port 80 to prevent any of those customers running a server from getting infected and infecting the network.
Most ISPs don't allow servers since it uses a lot of bandwidth.
Most don't allow it. I know Adelphia Powerlink, OOL, ATT, @HOME don't allow it. @HOME residental customers can't.. @HOME Business can.
Chicken March 31st, 2002, 12:38 Originally posted by is0lized
my cable company doesnt allow a server ... im going to use it ... to run a web server ... do you think this would be ok?
I think you answered your own question there.
Robert March 31st, 2002, 12:53 Even though Chicken is right..
A few ISPS don't allow servers, but they do allow "personal servers". When they say a "personal server", they mean a server that only YOU and yourself can access and not cause too much usage of bandwidth. Most ISPS wont cut you if they see your running a small server using no resources or bandwidth.
ducktape March 31st, 2002, 13:24 Originally posted by robert
Awhile back there was the Code Red Worm threat and *most* ISPS blocked Port 80 to prevent any of those customers running a server from getting infected and infecting the network.
Most ISPs don't allow servers since it uses a lot of bandwidth.
Most don't allow it. I know Adelphia Powerlink, OOL, ATT, @HOME don't allow it. @HOME residental customers can't.. @HOME Business can.
adding to the list road runner home doesnt but road runner business class does
3.Customers are strictly prohibited from running server-based applications on Residential Road Runner accounts. This would include, without limitation, the running of HTTP Web servers, FTP servers, Gaming servers, SMTP and POP Mail servers, Domain Name Servers, Chat servers, etc.
from rr tos
guitarnerd April 1st, 2002, 02:49 I have a friend that tried hosting off cable, they kicked him off, and said it was because they don't want any one hosting copy righted stuff
Warp April 1st, 2002, 03:01 Originally posted by TriForce
They think they lose money if someone offers free hosting off there adsl servers.
Not really, they just don't want Commercial (business) users using a cheap residential link.
guitarnerd April 1st, 2002, 03:15 Basically they want you to pay more money for something extra
GregT April 2nd, 2002, 00:50 My isp has never said anything about my setup , prolly cause im always uploading and download stuff . Last time I checked before using apache , i was using about 100 gigs a month down and 75 gigs up a month:cool:
roly April 2nd, 2002, 04:05 I heared ATT BroadBand Internet blocks Port 80
GregT April 2nd, 2002, 14:47 i dont know about attbi , but comcast has all ports unblocked
guitarnerd April 2nd, 2002, 17:16 I am confused, I ordered DSL last night and here is what they say before you go to purchase it in the agreement...
We offer a static IP so you can host your own website from your own computer for example www.(yoursitehere).com you can also host your own ftp, or mail server.
Now when I got to the last page to submit my order after I gave them all my information the BIG agreement comes up and is about ten pages long, here is what it said
Under section 1.2 (restrictions)
"DIRECTV Broadband may offer the Service, at it's descretion, to customers who will use it for limited commercial purposes. However, the Service may not be used by customers to host commercial web sites. You may not connect more than 5 computers at a single location to the Servce absent written consent from DIRCTV Broadband. In the event you attempt to utilize the Service in a manner inconsistent with these restrictions, DirectV Broadband may, at its sole descretion, increas the fees associated with the Service, or terminate the Service."
Tell me, is this false advertisement?
guitarnerd April 2nd, 2002, 17:23 I just called them and they said I will not qualify as a commercial site unless I have more than ten employees working for me. I'm still a little "iffy" but he said I can host whatever I want :)
GregT April 2nd, 2002, 17:34 and people arent really employes unless u pay them , so I guess u can have as many peoples work on ur site as long as u dont pay them :)
guitarnerd April 2nd, 2002, 17:38 Lol, the guy said it is just to avoid people with buisnesses trying to connect 200 people to one line. I say if you have 200 employees you could easily afford a t1 at least.
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