Why Do you hate Microsoft?

[Dean]

Why? do u hate them? i hate it because MTM2 Doesnt support Geforce cards

[GregT]

they overprice everything thats not free :rolleyes:

[lotsofissues]

1. hotmail
2. How they could barely make the Fortune 100 the year that Gates was nearly worth $100 billion.
3. Real will die one day.
4. If you were to just buy Windows XP Word alone it would cost you $299 (visited the store recently).
5. They will rule the world one day.

[allanh]

I don't hate Microsoft. They are a great software company which makes great products.

For people who wants to talk about Monopoly, I don't really care. Just imagine one day we don't have softwares like Windows, Word, Powerpoint...etc

[Dean]

Originally posted by gt14
they overprice everything :rolleyes:
Internet Explorer is free

[shizzle]

I Hate Micro$oft because they are seeking to dominate the entire of the computing by peddling second rate garbage dressed up as the latest technology. This, in itself, is not too bad... the problem is they are doing it by making sure no-one else can offer an alternative. Anyone remember OS/2? Anyone remember that Bill Gates said OS/2 would be the natural successor to DOS? That was before Windows was released. Or how about Bill and Mega$loth attempting to rubbish Macintoshes, because Mac s were easy to use?


Bill Clinton, Boris Yeltsin, and Bill Gates were called in by God. God informed them that he was very unhappy about what was going on in this world. Since things were so bad he told the three of them that he was destroying the Earth in 3 days. They were all allowed to return to their homes and businesses and tell their friends and colleagues what was happening. God did tell them though that no matter what they did he was not changing his mind. So...

Bill Clinton went in and told his staff, "I have good news and bad news for you. First the good news. There is a God. The bad news is that he is destroying the Earth in 3 days."

Boris Yeltsin went back and told his staff, "I have bad news and bad news. The first is there is a God. The second is that he is destroying the Earth in 3 days."

Bill Gates went back and told his staff.... "I have good news and good news. Firstly, God thinks I am one of the 3 most important people in the world. The second is, we don't have to fix the bugs in Windows95."



Microsoft controls the current software market and has a de facto monopoly on the desktop. This monopoly has not been achieved and is not being maintained by offering the user community better products than Microsoft's competitors can offer. On the contrary, Microsoft has earned a reputation for selling unreliable software. Windows is a technically inferior operating system with a seriously flawed architecture, weak security model and sloppy code, while other Microsoft applications are equally kludgey. New Microsoft products offer no essential improvements over previous or competing products, and their Return On Investment is between small and zero, in spite of Microsoft's boasts about being innovative and customer-driven.
Instead of making better software, Microsoft has focused on using brilliant but doubtful marketing tactics to force their products upon the user community in order to establish and maintain their monopoly. These methods include a tight integration of applications into the operating system, the bundling of applications with Windows to force competing application vendors out of the market, the mandatory bundling of Windows with new computer equipment, deliberate limitations in the compatibility of Windows with competing products, contracts that prohibit third parties to do business with anyone but Microsoft, and retaliatory practices against non-cooperating vendors. In addition to this, third-party developers are induced, through cheap or free development kits and the sabotaging of alternatives, to develop applications that contain proprietary system calls, are virtually non-portable, and are therefore bound to the MS-Windows platform.
These methods only serve to further inflate Microsoft's already obscene profit margins, at the price of the interests of the user community, the IT market and the field of computer technology as a whole. Microsoft KNOWS that Windows can't ignore errors and will only crash , so it makes them look bad. The easy solution is to chuck an ignore button in there that doesn't really work and automatically defaults to the unable to resolve general protection fault or whatever screen forcing you to close it. Like this :

<http://www.fortunecity.com/millenium/celesteville/14/winerr1.jpg>


You've got to love how they just take the blame off themselves by making it LOOK like Windows has TRIED to ignore the error , but alas the error was too bad and poor Windows was overwhelmed. What an "Operating System" you clicked on 'ignore' which we "tried" to do but couldn't so it was your fault expect your application to still run. They should have called it the :

<http://www.fortunecity.com/millenium/celesteville/14/msbg.jpg>


Anyway I could keep on raving and ranting about all the faults in Microsoft, how it doesn't even multitask correctly , the plug and PRAY system not working and detecting two soundcards, picking up my modem as my mouse. Or I could go on about how Microsoft has already reached a monopoly in Computer Software leaving only a bare few innovative competitors left , before Microsoft either buys out their companies , or copies their product charging for it and slapping the Microsoft name on it, then charging $149.95 for the latest version of "Microsoft ICQ" or whatever. Maybe Microsoft will then move into the hardware industry , buying out Creative Labs and relasing "Microsoft/hard Sound Genius AWE64" , or start making their own computers , monopolising the PC market with "Microsoft Internet Computer 3.0 now with Microsoft Cable Modem , Microsoft monitor 2.0 , Microsoft 16 Speed CD-Rom now with eject button" etc. This wouldn't be so bad if the products were actually good , but Microsoft products STINK! <http://www.fortunecity.com/millenium/celesteville/14/stink.jpg> , just look at Windows 95 for an example of an extremely bad product made standard by Microsoft Hype (should be on Microsoft's lineup next year) and Microsoft Monopoly (the Microsoft version of the popular game , when you past "start" you collect another 3 billion dollars... ah.. pocket change) or Internet Explorer , blatant inferior copy of Netscape that Microsoft were forced to come up with when they failed to take the Internet seriously (great call Bill , just like that 640k thing) and Netscape had become the new standard, so and a standard that isn't Microsoft is a bad standard. Netscape refused to sell so Microsoft decided to copy the product , slap the Microsoft name on it and run Netscape off the net.


Microsoft KNOWS that Windows can't ignore errors and will only crash , so it makes them look bad. The easy solution is to chuck an ignore button in there that doesn't really work and automatically defaults to the unable to resolve general protection fault or whatever screen forcing you to close it. Like this :

<http://www.fortunecity.com/millenium/celesteville/14/winerr1.jpg>


You've got to love how they just take the blame off themselves by making it LOOK like Windows has TRIED to ignore the error , but alas the error was too bad and poor Windows was overwhelmed. What an "Operating System" you clicked on 'ignore' which we "tried" to do but couldn't so it was your fault expect your application to still run. They should have called it the :

<http://www.fortunecity.com/millenium/celesteville/14/msbg.jpg>


Anyway I could keep on raving and ranting about all the faults in Microsoft, how it doesn't even multitask correctly , the plug and PRAY system not working and detecting two soundcards, picking up my modem as my mouse. Or I could go on about how Microsoft has already reached a monopoly in Computer Software leaving only a bare few innovative competitors left , before Microsoft either buys out their companies , or copies their product charging for it and slapping the Microsoft name on it, then charging $149.95 for the latest version of "Microsoft ICQ" or whatever. Maybe Microsoft will then move into the hardware industry , buying out Creative Labs and relasing "Microsoft/hard Sound Genius AWE64" , or start making their own computers , monopolising the PC market with "Microsoft Internet Computer 3.0 now with Microsoft Cable Modem , Microsoft monitor 2.0 , Microsoft 16 Speed CD-Rom now with eject button" etc. This wouldn't be so bad if the products were actually good , but Microsoft products STINK! <http://www.fortunecity.com/millenium/celesteville/14/stink.jpg> , just look at Windows 95 for an example of an extremely bad product made standard by Microsoft Hype (should be on Microsoft's lineup next year) and Microsoft Monopoly (the Microsoft version of the popular game , when you past "start" you collect another 3 billion dollars... ah.. pocket change) or Internet Explorer , blatant inferior copy of Netscape that Microsoft were forced to come up with when they failed to take the Internet seriously (great call Bill , just like that 640k thing) and Netscape had become the new standard, so and a standard that isn't Microsoft is a bad standard. Netscape refused to sell so Microsoft decided to copy the product , slap the Microsoft name on it and run Netscape off the net.


More Later:

[Bruce]

To put it simply, their prices are ridiculous, especially for the extremely buggy software.

[shizzle]

http://news.com.com/2100-1001-874132.html?legacy=cnet&tag=lthd

proof of the monopoly... its just sad...

[GregT]

Originally posted by lotsofissues

5. They will rule the world one day.

not true !!! Penguins and Linux will rule the world !!!
:D

[shizzle]

dont forget about devils.

[Tazzman]

Something like the attachement below you mean :D

[lotsofissues]

Linux is the devil's lackey!

[guitarnerd]

There is nothing wrong with microsoft, they make the best software ALL AROUND. I have a good friend that is a programmer for microsoft if you want to talk bad about them He will shoot you. I can give a link to his site if anyone is intrested he is a "blogger" and he blogs every day, he comes up with a lot of neat stuff.

[Bruce]

Originally posted by guitarnerd
if you want to talk bad about them He will shoot you. Microsoft sucks. There I said it. Go ahead and tell him too. I'd love to see him come and shoot me. It might add some excitement to my life.



[...]they make the [...] [buggiest] software ALL AROUND[...]I can't argue with that.

[guitarnerd]

Microsoft sucks. There I said it. Go ahead and tell him too. I'd love to see him come and shoot me. It might add some excitement to my life.

That was a figure of speech, I bet you that probably none of us would be here without microsoft, I say when you own nothing manufactured, funded, ran by or in anyway affiliated with microsoft then you have the right to say you hate them.

[Archbob]

Yeah but alot of people pirate microsoft. Their prices are insane but I still use alot of microsoft products and I don't hate them.

[meow]

Originally posted by guitarnerd


That was a figure of speech, I bet you that probably none of us would be here without microsoft, I say when you own nothing manufactured, funded, ran by or in anyway affiliated with microsoft then you have the right to say you hate them.

Of course we would. We would just use different software and probably also hardware. MS didn't invent computers, you know.

[guitarnerd]

Of course we would. We would just use different software and probably also hardware. MS didn't invent computers, you know.

Yeah but they made it a hell of a lot better!

[Bruce]

Originally posted by guitarnerd


Yeah but they made it a hell of a lot [...] [worse]! Once again, I cannot argue with that.

[meow]

Originally posted by guitarnerd


Yeah but they made it a hell of a lot better!
How do you know? you can't know what we would have had if there had been no MS.

[Akalon]

Originally posted by guitarnerd
I say when you own nothing manufactured, funded, ran by or in anyway affiliated with microsoft then you have the right to say you hate them.

That doesn't make sense... I can have a Ford, not like it and hate Ford.

[guitarnerd]

I guess my statement was a little off, but there isn't a Ford, Chevy, in the computer world. There is no compition, now all of you may argue with me and say all this crap, but that is because we know stuff about computer, pretty much 90% percent of people don't even know what an operation system is, or know how to use products besides microsoft products. So since more people use them more people will complain. And you know what microsoft invented things that wouldn't have never been invented with out them. Would there have been substitutions maybe, would it have been better maybe but the fact is microsofts owns the world (at least the computer world)

[Akalon]

Originally posted by guitarnerd
microsofts owns the world (at least the computer world)

That's why we rebell, it sucks.

[meow]

Originally posted by guitarnerd
I guess my statement was a little off, but there isn't a Ford, Chevy, in the computer world. There is no compition <snip>
:rolleyes:
That's the problem and why it's close to a monopoly.

[wm2k1]

Originally posted by guitarnerd
And you know what microsoft invented things that wouldn't have never been invented with out them.

yeah...right :rolleyes:

they make knock off of other companies' products
just take a look at Windows as a huge example of that

[Akalon]

Corel make better office programs than Microsoft.
Opera makes a better browser (only crippled because many sites are only made with IE in mind)
Most companies make better games.
Macromedia make better web development software

etc. etc.

[Gayowulf]

if there was no Xerox, there would be no MS as we know it today.

[shizzle]

Um.. Microsofts Filight Simulator is great and realistic... I'll give em that.

[GregT]

the world would prolly be a better place without micro---- , but they do make some nice games

[Todd]

I hate their anti-competitive practice. They can essentially dominate any market they want due to their funds. When they tell manufacturers to bundle Windows and Windows alone with their systems then it really hurts other operating systems chances on making it.

They took the same approach that Network Solutions got lucky with. If you dominate the market to start with others will have to use your products to maintain compatibility. The only time you see Microsoft release anything for Linux/BSD is when it's crucial like FrontPage extensions. Knowing that Windows didn't dominate the server market they had to offer them to non-Windows operating systems to make sure their FrontPage product did well. That's my theory anyway..

If you want to see more anti-competitive practices search places like News.com and Slashdot.org. I don't want to bother digging them up but needless to say they have their problems.

I do hate when people blame them for the wrong reasons though. Just because your OS crashed doesn't mean it's the software’s fault. It could be such a large number of things that it's impossible to say it's X problem. Would you rather deal with only Microsoft branded hardware much like what Apple does? I didn't think so. :)

One real strength of theirs besides Internet Explorer would be their input devices. They make some great mice, keyboards, and trackballs.

[meow]

I like their mice. :classic2:

[Akalon]

Yeah, Microsoft mice are better than Logitech's

[meow]

Originally posted by Todd
I hate their anti-competitive practice. They can essentially dominate any market they want due to their funds. When they tell manufacturers to bundle Windows and Windows alone with their systems then it really hurts other operating systems chances on making it.
And if you choose to buy a used computer or build one - lo and behold, the same software is suddenly very expensive. :mad:


One real strength of theirs besides Internet Explorer would be their input devices. They make some great mice, keyboards, and trackballs.
I would say the IE's strength lies in the fact that it due to known circumstances has been so dominating that much markup and scripting is done exclusively or primarily for IE.

[AsianDOC]

Because they make so much money. SHARE THE WEALTH I say. ;)

[meow]

Yeah - with me! (Wonder if BG likes cats?) :p

[allanh]

Originally posted by Asian_DOC
Because they make so much money. SHARE THE WEALTH I say. ;)


mmm... I am sure that Giancarlo is going to have something to say about this communist statement:biggrin2: :biggrin2: :biggrin2:

[allanh]

hey, but there is one good thing about having a monopoly. You get less software compatibility problems since they softwares are all made by the same people.

[trenzterra]

Originally posted by allanh



mmm... I am sure that Giancarlo is going to have something to say about this communist statement:biggrin2: :biggrin2: :biggrin2: BG will share the $$ with GC if both of them are gays:D

j/k

[meow]

BG & GC - cute! :biggrin2:

[guitarnerd]

Majority almost always wins

[}:8) Supermoo]

Originally posted by Akalon
Yeah, Microsoft mice are better than Logitech's

I wonder why?

Probaly beacuse Logitech had a bigger market-share, and they (MSFT) considered that a threat. That's not too bad, that's just business. And of course Microsoft would never use their OS to gain advantage in their Hardware division, never ever... *cough*

[Mandrake]

Originally posted by Gayowulf
if there was no Xerox, there would be no MS as we know it today.


Amen! :D

[cheatpark]

http://www.vcnet.com/bms/departments/catalog/yrcatalog.shtml

Microsoft are well known for buying out other companies. Check that site. Its almost a complete list. Microsoft also didn't make internet explorer. They stole it from spyglass.

Want more stuff about why people hate microsoft. Go to http://www.----microsoft.com

[Bruce]

Originally posted by Akalon
Yeah, Microsoft mice are better than Logitech's And IBM mice are better than Microsoft's.

[niv]

Originally posted by cheatpark
http://www.----microsoft.com
Sometimes hexadecimal numbers help:

http://www.----microsoft.com (http://www.fuc%6bmicrosoft.com)

Thar she goes.

As for Microsoft...well, their products are ----. Most people use them, and that's why some are smart enough to see why we should be using alternatives...however, without their existence, without their plunge into a world of GUIs [and BSODs], our interaction with computers might not have been the same as it is now.

If they hadn't taken the plunge:

1. Someone else would have eventually, after all gaming was around at the time [PONG! :D].
2. The same thing would result, with one company/organization controlling the market.
3. We'd have another others rebelling.

[Todd]

Originally posted by meow
I would say the IE's strength lies in the fact that it due to known circumstances has been so dominating that much markup and scripting is done exclusively or primarily for IE.
Exactly, but advancements are still advancements. At least with public HTML code and the like there is no restriction from another browser adding support for that code to their product. Opera is a great example of this, nearly anything that works well in IE also works in Opera. So I'm not saying IE is the best browser but it does tend to be more developer friendly. Opera is most impressive though, I'm anxious to see their new 6.0 version finalized for Linux.

[Lapras]

I like macintosh, but I won't say anymore because I do not want to be caught in cross fire.

[leetcrew]

www.microsoftsucks.com

[cheatpark]

Originally posted by Lapras
I like macintosh, but I won't say anymore because I do not want to be caught in cross fire.
Someone told me that macintosh is the most stable. Not sure if its true. However, I do know that a lot of microsoft programs mess up and microsoft's reaction was quite rude. I heard on a site that they said its because users don't use them properly.

Also when the "this program has performed an illegal operation" message comes up in windows, microsoft just stick an ignore button on it to shut people up but it still closes the program. Don't be so scared if you like macintosh.