Cool...I just got Opera!

It's nice. I've never even seen a screenshot of Opera before; so this is a brand new experience for me.
First impressions are very good! I like the multiple-window thing; that's really wicked.

So what little tricks are there for Opera? :)

I still love my IE! It's easy to use and it's fast. I believe Opera actually has ads in its free versions, but this isn't the case with Explorer. Plus, considering When is Peo planning on adding an Opera emoticon? ;)

Yeah, there's an ad banner up on the top right, in the toolbar, but you actually hardly notice it..

It did just crash though! But I think that's just my computer playing up.

Anhedonia, make it so the status bar is at the bottom of the screen, its much easier to use. And go to help > mouse and get used to the mouse gestures, they are useful.

You'll have to fiddle around with the configs for a while to customize it so that it doesn't clog up.

I still like to use IE.

Shouldn't this be in the General forum? :smile2:

It is related to computers, so i dont see why, feel free to correct me though.

Originally posted by meow
Shouldn't this be in the General forum? :smile2:

No...It's about a computer program.

Mouse gestures are really useful, for example going back to previous page just pressing right button and move mouse to left.

If you think Opera is fast, go to http://mozilla.org and get mozilla 0.9.9. It's much faster and also has tabbed browsing.

Take Bruce's site for example, it takes me about 3 minutes to load in Opera, but about 30 seconds in mozilla.

i use mozilla and opera , both very fast compared to IE , but Opera has ads :(

Originally posted by HTML-Guru
Take Bruce's site for example, it takes me about 3 minutes to load in Opera, but about 30 seconds in mozilla. Then Bruce's site has big problems.

Opera is faster than Mozilla.

Opera is the fastest browser but it has problems with generating some pages.

With the newest version of Opera, I think the only problems I have had are with some javascripts, which are mostly popups anyways. And yes, the mouse guestures are really cool indeed. The only reason why I use IE over Opera is AutoComplete. I like how its stores all my passwords and stuff so I don't have to retype them in.

The only reason why I use IE over any other browser is because of the resizable toolbars.

Both Opera and Mozilla take too much screenspace.

Agreed about Op. (Haven't had Moz down for a while so I don't know). Hate those bars. But hey, I like that one can run Opera in SDI mode now. No more tabs. :)

With the newest version of Opera, I think the only problems I have had are with some javascripts, which are mostly popups anyways. And yes, the mouse guestures are really cool indeed. The only reason why I use IE over Opera is AutoComplete. I like how its stores all my passwords and stuff so I don't have to retype them in.Opera has "paste in personal information" which you could use for that purpose. Right-click a form element, move over "insert", then select the value to paste in.

I like Mozilla's Password Manager, though.The only reason why I use IE over any other browser is because of the resizable toolbars. ...Mozilla take[s] too much screenspace.You see the little downward pointing arrow on the toolbars? Click it to minimize them. To get ride of them completely go to View > Show/Hide > then uncheck the toolbar you don't want.

Originally posted by Dusty
You see the little downward pointing arrow on the toolbars? Click it to minimize them. To get ride of them completely go to View > Show/Hide > then uncheck the toolbar you don't want.
The only arrows I have bring out the usual dropdown menus. :confused:
To me the problem is that they can't be moved. Both IE and K-Mel let me shove them all together so they only take up the vertical space of one bar.

Meow, see this attachement.

Sorry, I misread. I thought they were talking about Opera. :o

My point is... I want those buttons handy at all times, but have them small enough so they don't take up screen space.

You can have small buttons in IE (i know you can have this in opera), and if you stick them on the same row as the File, Edit, View, Favorites etc... bar, you save a lot of space. You can't do this in Opera or Mozilla.

Psssst! K-Mel

i had problems with Op, i changed my old forum's colour scheme(phpbb2) and Op refused to load the new colour scheme.

Check your preferences.

Originally posted by meow
Check your preferences.

err, huh?

File | Preferences

Check what you have in "Page Style" and "History and cache".

My point is... I want those buttons handy at all times, but have them small enough so they don't take up screen space.You just move so fast, you can take the time to minimize and maximize a toolbar (which only takes one click), you need each and evey one of those buttons NOW! ;)You can have small buttons in IE (i know you can have this in opera), and if you stick them on the same row as the File, Edit, View, Favorites etc... bar, you save a lot of space. You can't do this in Opera or Mozilla.You can choose which buttons to show and which to hide from Edit > Preferences > Navigator and if you want smaller buttons you can install a different theme, one that uses small buttons.

Originally posted by Dusty
Opera has "paste in personal information" which you could use for that purpose. Right-click a form element, move over "insert", then select the value to paste in.

I like Mozilla's Password Manager, though.
Yea, it has that, but nothing that keeps your login info, like IE. For example, when I load my email login page, all i do is type the first character of my username, and IE pops up with the full. I click that, and it fills in my username, and password too. I think the Mozilla Password Manager sounds nice...But I tried Moz and thought Opera was a lot better than it. Moz was just too slow.

I usually wouldn't reply to a thread that was around a day old but I'll make an exception here.

Opera does indeed seem to be faster then Mozilla from what I've seen. However it's 6.0 beta for Linux seems to use around 12 MB of ram where Mozilla only uses 7 MB. I personally prefer Opera right now for the previous reasons stated but Mozilla has a LOT of potential. It's already made it quite far and is quite impressive.

I'm curious, those of you who use Opera or Mozilla are you using it because you use a OS that doesn't support Internet Explorer or do you truly prefer it over IE?

For Windows systems I nearly always use IE but otherwise Opera is my browser of choice.

I'm curious, those of you who use Opera or Mozilla are you using it because you use a OS that doesn't support Internet Explorer or do you truly prefer it over IE?The second one, I truly prefer Mozilla over IE.

Opera's not a bad browser, but I don't really like the feel of it.

Originally posted by Todd


I'm curious, those of you who use Opera or Mozilla are you using it because you use a OS that doesn't support Internet Explorer or do you truly prefer it over IE?
Both, actually. I use Moz on Windows because it hasn't crashed on me yet--something I can't say for IE--and I use Moz on Linux because (thankfully) IE isn't available.

Originally posted by Todd

I'm curious, those of you who use Opera or Mozilla are you using it because you use a OS that doesn't support Internet Explorer or do you truly prefer it over IE?

Yes, I truly prefer Opera over IE. :p

Originally posted by Dusty
You can choose which buttons to show and which to hide from Edit > Preferences > Navigator and if you want smaller buttons you can install a different theme, one that uses small buttons. No, duh, I know you can have small buttons.

But you still can't put the buttons and the address bar and the File, Edit, View... menus on the same row in Opera nor Mozilla (Mozilla puts the buttons and address bar on the same row but the buttons are huge).

You said you just wanted to save as much space as possible for the page. That can be done by using smaller buttons, turning off unneeded buttons, minimizing infrequently used toolbars, and turning off never used toolbars. Now it seems that you you want it all on one bar, regardless if it's small or if it serves a purpose, just on one bar. No, neither Mozilla nor Opera can do that.I know you can have small buttons.You didn't seem to realize this in your previous post and you seem to have forgotten it towards the end of your current post ("Mozilla ... buttons are huge").

Ok... I ask you, can any of the other browsers save this much screen space but still have all the buttons handy such as this?

Heh, I use IE6 along with EditPlus so I can have multiple browser windows inside one window all together. I wonder if anybody else does the same. If I use IE browser windows only though, my Win98 is higher at risk of crashing upon having too many, that's why I use EditPlus along with. And, I use a lot of browser windows usually.

I've so far used IE, Netscape, and Opera. I still prefer IE. I haven't used Mozilla, or anything else yet.

There are programs that do the same thing, and are meant for it. I think one was called NetCaptor. No need to go through EditPad.

Originally posted by Coolin
Ok... I ask you, can any of the other browsers save this much screen space but still have all the buttons handy such as this?

This is as small as I can seem to get it in Opera.. but I don't need the room. I could also get rid of the google search box, but it's useful.

Originally posted by Canuckkev
There are programs that do the same thing, and are meant for it. I think one was called NetCaptor. No need to go through EditPad.

I don't know if you're replying to my post, or not, but I said EditPlus. EditPlus is much better than something like EditPad. I also like usin' it 'cause I can code up some stuff in one window, have one text window to keep little notes, and as well use browser windows. It's quite comfortable really. Haven't yet used NetCaptor though. I'll check that out anyway.

Only minuses for me are is that it has less browser options (I don't use those other options all that much anyway though) and when you click on a link for a '_blank' target it opens in a IE window.