For the sake of curiosity...

[cds]

Im not taking sides either way, but im interested in your oppinions...

If you had a choice between:

A) A new or small FWP that offers a lot of features and no ads, but can be slow, and there is a fair chance of it dying...

or

B) An established FWP (hypermart, etc) that 'will' have banner ads, and perhaps less features, but is generally fast, and pretty much assured to never die...

Which one would you pick. Now, obviously there are very notable exceptions to the poor generalizations I made (:)), but for the interest of curiosity...which would you pick?

[coolguy23]

i go for B...

[top]

b

[Cagey]

B

[Technics]

Well Duh stupid question - B - (c:

[Nick]

d.


err no wait.


that's not an option.


b.

[razor]

a if it offers alot better features

[KapTinKiRk]

A, then after it dies, B :)

[-bg]

It really depends on what you are looking for.
Some people would go for a slow host with no ads, instead of a fast host with ads.

Personally I believe choice B would be a good way to go.
Reason: they last longer and usually upgrade their servers before 'no ads' host, because they have revenue coming in all the time (in most cases).

Choice C is always the best way to go, PAID HOSTING. :)

[jiminsd]

We've all done A and they never fail to let us down (RedRival, F2s, Crosswinds and the list goes on). B is a good choice and they are offering more every day. As with the previous post... paid is the way to go and the prices are getting so low that they are almost free.

[-bg]

There is a big demand for hosting, which creates more competition for other companies, meaning lowering prices.
I still believe that bigger boys will buy out all the small co., and rule the hill. And you can actually see it happening live, if you are keeping up with the news. :)

[cds]

True, but then again there are literally 1000's of webhosts out there. If someone want to get into an internet business and cant think of anything to do, they start a webhost...

Anyway, I think even the big webhosts will continue to drive down their prices. I think $5-$12 will be the norm for basic 10mb accounts on big webhosts soon...

[Koolguy]

Choice D: Screw the whole website deal and go back to being amish

lol whatever

[surfdemonss]

FREE IS ALWAYS HAS SOMETHING ATTACH TO IT . WHETHER IT'S SLOW OR BANNERS . SO I GOT A TIP 4 U . GET A PAID HOST AND STOP SPENDING SO MUCH TIME IN THIS FORUM .

[Zef Hemel]

Originally posted by surfdemonss
FREE IS ALWAYS HAS SOMETHING ATTACH TO IT . WHETHER IT'S SLOW OR BANNERS . SO I GOT A TIP 4 U . GET A PAID HOST AND STOP SPENDING SO MUCH TIME IN THIS FORUM .
Eh, Mr. I think you have your capslock switched on

[-bg]

Originally posted by cds

Anyway, I think even the big webhosts will continue to drive down their prices. I think $5-$12 will be the norm for basic 10mb accounts on big webhosts soon...

I would have to disagree on that one.

Let's take Verio for example. They are the worlds biggest web hosting co., and their prices start @ $24.95.
They activate new accounts every 90 seconds, which makes it quite impossible for small hosts to compete with them. They also buy out web hosting companies that host from 4,000 domains and up.

Can you imagine any host to compete with this giant?

[cds]

I think the key to my statement was "in a few years". Just look at long distance nowadays... they killed all the smaller companies but the rates keep going down...its the usual trend of popular businesses....

[jvv]

It all comes down to what you need. If you are just gonna have a small personal site and are just getting familiar with developing websites, then use one of the big boys, they may not offer all the bells and whistles, but they are also the ones least likely to confuse you.

When you've found your way around, and want to experiment with more 'complex' features like perl, php, databases, ... and stability isn't too much of a concern since nothing advanced will come out of your efforts, then go for the small, loaded freehosts.

From the moment you intend to make a $ with a website, go commercial. FWP, no matter how reliable, fast or loaded can compete with a serious pay host (emphasis on serious).

just my 2c.

[cds]

You know what Jvv...I totally agree with you. small FWP are pains, so for starters give yourself a break and use a bigger service. But few big FWP will offer say PHP or mySQL or coldfusion, etc... so for "playing around with code" these small guys are great. But dont think you can host your site with them for more than three months...hehe :)

[Gcites]

LOL never wait till i put my testimonials up and they are not bs ones to!

[Coolin]

A small one like http://www.netcabins.com is pretty nice.

[Gcites]

But they place banner ads on users pages?

[Ron Seigel]

And so will you some day or you'll die just like EVERY other wanna-be ad-free FWP that's ever existed. (Ohhhh...wait...it's just a "hobby" for you if I'm quoting you correctly. Your FWP will simply die when you lose interest. Perhaps a month or 2?)

[Gcites]

LOL na it wont cause i work for a webhosting company which is also a large isp. Not really a hobby i just like to provide something unique :P

[Gcites]

http://www.crosswinds.com is no more?

[Mandrake]

Originally posted by Gcites
http://www.crosswinds.com is no more?

The FWP is http://www.crosswinds.net! http://www.crosswinds.com is a totally different site. Crosswinds Net still exists, but they have placed a pop-up ad on member pages, although if you use frames, it does not appear.

[Coolin]

Originally posted by cyberryan

Originally posted by Ron Seigel
And so will you some day or you'll die just like EVERY other wanna-be ad-free FWP that's ever existed.

Yep, it's only a matter of time until Redrival, f2s, and Stas.net resort to putting either banners or pop-ups on their members' pages. I always used to say, "If Crosswinds can't do it, nobody can;" well, now I guess nobody can.

F2S and Redrival and stas.net still can do it ;) Same with the 33 webhosts listed here: http://www.freewebspace.net/cgi-bin/db2/db.cgi?sb=1&so=ascend&view_records=1&Language=English&Location=---&Space=%3E0.0&Adtype=No+ads&mh=10
But I bet most of them will die soon.

[Gcites]

They may but not me :P

[-bg]

GCities,

What is your exact business plan?

Fill up a server with accounts and get no revenue?

[Coolin]

Originally posted by -bg
GCities,

What is your exact business plan?

Fill up a server with accounts and get no revenue?

He claims that it's a hobby. So I guess that's his business plan.

[Coolin]

woah! I just started the 3rd page of the thread! Is this the longest thread ever as of now?

[KapTinKiRk]

Originally posted by Coolin
woah! I just started the 3rd page of the thread! Is this the longest thread ever as of now?

no, it's tied with about 2 or 3 other threads at 31 replies... until I just posted and made it 32, muahaha :-). It will be the longest thread though.

[Gcites]

Well yes its a hobby for now. I get the dedicated servers and bandwidth cheaper as i work for a huge isp web hosting company.

[Ice]

Originally posted by Gcites
Well yes its a hobby for now. I get the dedicated servers and bandwidth cheaper as i work for a huge isp web hosting company.

If you're offering all that, why not remove the 2000 visitors rule and allow zip/exe files? Could be a really good host if more people could use it. Nobody here who wants a site is likely to get 2000 visitors a day, and people who do get that many visitors usually go for paid hosts. Thats just my opinion though, but I think if you removed the visitor limit and enable zip/exe (maybe put a 2mb size limit to cut down on warez), it could be great. :)

[Gcites]

Yes even if i do that i still need to host sites that are already on the web. As i have to review them to check there content :P

[Gcites]

I could make it less maybe 1000?

[butterfly syndrome]

1000 visitors a day is still an awful lot. I have seen several successfull sites, but none of the legal ones went over 500 visitors a day (by which I am really referring to visitors and not just page hits). Despite, would a site get kicked off your server if it didn't reach a minimum of 2000 visits?

[Gcites]

Butterfly no. But if it got at least less then 300 a day it would :P If it has good content and legal information it is ok.

[nickline]

Boy! This thread is old! :)

[Bruce]

Why dig it up? Just let the thread RIP.

[niv]

Originally posted by nickline
Boy! This thread is old! :)

Wow. You're a moron, just like me :D

[meow]

----! I didn't notice something wrong until I saw Ron Siegel's (sp?) name. Moron!:devious2:

[nickline]

Wow. You're a moron, just like me
Now I am embarrased :o
I'll stop digging really :D this is the last one.


Boy! These threads never die!!! :D :D :D :D