netscape and nested tables

[akrapovic]

Hi, I finish design my really okay looking website. Load it into Netscape 4.7, crash!

I found out that the problem maybe nested table, I am not sure how many level I got, but it surely enough for Netscape 4.7 to crash. I have not test this in Netscape 6 yet, so I don't know how its gonna turn out, anyone know how Netscape 6 handle nested tables ?

So what do you guys think, should I fixed the whole website just to make it work with Netscape 4.7 ? I mean, how many people are still using Netscape 4.7 (except for my school library, EWU, and one of my friend) ? Should I care about them or just screw it since I really love those making tables with little color border around it (cellspacing="1" for outside table, then stick another regular table inside it) ?

thank you

[Dusty]

You're site's not up, I can't see it.

How nested are we talking? resource:///res/samples/test6.html is the nested tables test for Mozilla, it's six and eight levels deep and it has no problem rendering them. I'm assuming yours are under that and, if they're not, I think your page may need just a little bit of a redesign.

You mention using a table within a table to make a thin border. That's just two levels, any browser can handle that. If that's what you thought was causing the problem, start looking for something else, it's not there.

[akrapovic]

oh sorry, my site is on my localhost running MySQL and ColdFusion

well, there are alot of nested, so I am gonna check out that test to see how deep nested I got.
btw, I not just doing one table inside a table. There are alot of table inside that table, then table inside table .... from what I am guessing, there maybe at least 6 level of nesting here. Too much for me to count.

Could you please give me the nested table test url again, it does not seem to be right

thanks

UPDATE: I found out another way to achieve what I want without using load of tables, something like this:

<table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="0" bgcolor="#6394bd">
<tr>
<td bgcolor="#FFFFFF" valign="top">


I was able to take out about 2 inside nested levels, Netscape 4.7 seem to be working again, nice :)

[meow]

Good for you! :p

I just wanted to mention that I don't think the nesting per se can actually crash ther browser. Some combinations of very simple CSS and sometimes JS can though. Maybe you had some little snip in there the old thing didn't like? Just curious. :classic2:

[Jan]

I agree, I have opened 6*nested tables successfully. Maybe akrapovic's Netscape has died like mine :crysad:

Tomorrow I am going to uninstall and reinstall Netscape because try as I may, Mozilla is a drag on the system :mad: I have trialed it a few days now and it is soooooooo slow, even slower than IE :devious2:

[meow]

I've nested far more than that in my table happy days.

:topic:
What system do you have Jan?

I wonder if you shouldn't take a look at your settings in Moz. Turning some bars and fluff off, using a "smaller" skin and limiting caching, especially the RAM cache could make a world of difference. I noticed the default settings were very high.

[Dusty]

Could you please give me the nested table test url again, it does not seem to be rightIt will only work in Mozilla or Netscape 6.x.

[meow]

Not any more. ;) (http://w1.181.telia.com/~u18109800/stuff/test6.html)

I don't think it's much of a test though. Not much that could screw up.

[akrapovic]

okay, I lied :) Netscape still acting up on some pages, but at least now it show up after freeze for 6 seconds unlike before it totally crash. I guess take out 2 nested levels does help a little.

Now, I just have to figure out why one of the inside table causing the 6 seconds freeze. This inside table is the one with highlight border cells when you move the mouse over the cell.
I tested the highlight border cells table by itself and its going fine.

So what I figured that what cause Netscape to crash on my site is the combination of too many nested table and one table menu with highlight border cells.

Oh well, at least its not crash totally now!

thanks for all your help :) :)