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How much money do you think you can make just from having advertising on websites, 10,000 unique hits a day for instance, which companies?
Archbob
May 19th, 2002, 23:57
Depends. Actually anime fan sites can make huge amounts selling dicount anime videos.
Toefur
May 20th, 2002, 06:44
I make about $30 with 15,000 + uniques per day.
LastActionHero
May 20th, 2002, 07:42
Originally posted by Toefur
I make about $30 with 15,000 + uniques per day.
$30 a day? :eek:
nitroboy
May 20th, 2002, 08:18
Originally posted by LastActionHero
$30 a day? :eek:
:eek:
toefur, what's your site address?? :confused:
well is problably mean 30 month since he was crying!
dawizman
May 20th, 2002, 17:50
Originally Posted by SWD
well is problably mean 30 month since he was crying!
Actually, that's his sig
spec
May 20th, 2002, 18:36
15000 unique hits is like 15 bux of popups and then you have banner ads and what not so his figure is correct. Its not ez halling 15000+ unique a day!
Toefur
May 20th, 2002, 21:52
Yeah, it's $30 a day.
It's not a whole lot (I don't think) for how much traffic it is. And it's not easy to get that much.
shizzle
May 20th, 2002, 21:56
30 a day!!! OH MY GOD! THATS 900 dollars a month!! You are making 5 figure income! HoLY SHIZZLE!! ::Gets to working on his site so he can get 15,000 a day and put ads on it::
Archbob
May 20th, 2002, 23:36
I make like maybe 50 cents per day with 400 uniques per day, I need 15,000 unqiues/day!
LastActionHero
May 21st, 2002, 00:00
Toefur can you please post the link to your website or if it's a problem then can you please PM me the URL? I would like to take a look at your website.
edit: I make around $0.75 - $1 with 300-400 uniques a day.
nitroboy
May 21st, 2002, 10:41
yes toefur, I want to visit your site too :classic2:
if you want to tell me the url, you can pm me....so you get 1 extra unique visitor :p
shizzle
May 21st, 2002, 15:35
toefur.com CHECK HIS PROFILE!~~~
nitroboy
May 21st, 2002, 15:49
Originally posted by Ragzzz
toefur.com CHECK HIS PROFILE!~~~
I see only one image :rolleyes:
My page gets around 1000 uniques a day and i make ----. What company pays you that much dude?
Frizconoskiato
May 22nd, 2002, 05:14
btw, how about if u run a forum, get over 4,000 hits a day and page views.. :)
soo anyways of getting some cash out my forums?
hell the cash will actually pay some of the server costs :)
makk551
May 22nd, 2002, 07:37
What you get normaly for one banner click?
Originally posted by makk551
What you get normaly for one banner click?
That depends entirely on the company you choose. Can range from from .01 cent to .20 cents (maybe more, but would be in areas I wouldn't venture into :p)
makk551
May 22nd, 2002, 08:25
And which companies would you recomment?
And do you get more money for banners containing adult content?
My personal preferences (because they are the ones I am with) are www.fastclick.com and www.i-clicks.net. I can't answer you on the adult :o , maybe someone else can. :classic2:
I-click,
They pay 5 cents for banner clicks or 50 cpm what does that mean? Do you get paid by both cpm and clicks??
I am not sure, but I think the CPM is only there when they don't have many banners, but last time I logged in to check on the banners to deselect ones that weren't doing so good, there were over 100 and the CPM thingy hadn't been on for quite a while.
Sheesh I hope that make sense....nearly bedtime in Aus :yawn:
firstmark
May 22nd, 2002, 18:46
I-clicks is paying a minimum of 6 cents per click some campaigns are 7 cents at present.
You have to deselect almost all campaigns but relevant ones to keep up a high CTR though.
SilverX
May 22nd, 2002, 19:50
does the person have to click on the banner and then click on something else to enter the page for me to get paid? Is it in the same window or can i make it spawn up in a new console?
firstmark
May 22nd, 2002, 22:14
I-clicks is a first click program meaning a user only has to click on the ad for you to be paid. The i-clicks terms don't mention that ads can't open in a new window I don't think, so I believe thats ok. I-clicks requires above teh fold placement.
The ads do open in a new window anyway, I nervously clicked on one when I first joined just to see what happened. :o
waverz
May 22nd, 2002, 22:47
I signed up to i-clicks.net 3 months ago... never got a reply.. emailed them.. never got a reply... They sound really good and I want to try them.. but never got a reply
firstmark
May 22nd, 2002, 22:54
Waverz ask clay@i-clicks.net to look into your request to join their network.
nitroboy
May 23rd, 2002, 13:51
yeah I had the same problem with i-clicks, I signed up a couple of months ago and never received a reply by them
So Iclicks is pretty good? How come no one has said anything good about them? Everyone is saying that they signed up two months ago and never heard from them?
If your site is accepted, you will hear within a day or two. I think I heard within 24 hours.
Knut
May 27th, 2002, 00:16
Some random comments:
- If your main reason for doing websites is to make money, it's usually much more effective to focus on affiliate programs than ad networks (banners).
- When it comes to affiliate programs, there's no "best" program that will do well at any site. It all depends on what your site is about, what audience it gets and how the offers are presented.
- The secret to making good money isn't finding a great program alone, but to combine and mix well programs that works at *your* site. If I told you who *my* top earner is, that doesn't mean that you'd do well with them at *your* site (and the other way around).
- "Low-value sites" (entertainment) will usually attract more visitors than "high-value" sites (for example: shopping) , but will usually make you much less money per visitor. Which route to go is simply a matter of what area is best suited for you. (It's possible to do well with either type)
- It's probably easier for most to make good money with a site if you plan on how to make money with it (without relying on banners) *before* you start building it. (That's what works for me, anyway ;)
- As for how much money you can make, there's not really an upper limit. (well, there probably is - but it's pretty high :) I know a few people who make five figures monthly from their sites (with affiliate programs and advertising alone) - it can be done.
- There are lots of different strategies that can be used to be reach a good income from websites. One thing I see in common with most people I know who do well with their sites is that they have quite a few of them. In other words, building multiple sites is often an easier way to increase profits (after a certain level has been reached). For those with either exceptionally popular sites, or who knows how to squeeze out high revenues per visitor, or others who just really know what they're doing - there are plenty of exceptions to this - but I think the multiple sites strategy is the easiest way to increase your income after a site has reached "its potential".
(I'm not claiming to be an "expert" or anything (there are plenty of people who make much more money than me) - but I make my living from my sites, and am happy that I'm able to do so. (btw only a very small portion of my income comes from my webmaster-related sites, so I don't think I'd recommend that particular area if you're in it for the money - although - of course it can be done :)
Sorry about my messy post. Hopefully some of it made sense.
Oh, and I don't have any experience with Anime sites, so I can't give you any specific recommendations for those :)
Great post Knut!
:chinese2:
toefur said that he gets 15,000 uniques daily which comes to $30 bucks a day, (some are not loaded), which he makes 5 figures from popups alone.
My site's traffic is mainly kids to young adults,**fans**, older than that are usually webmasters trying to make good money like me.
Also, do you know anyone that makes 6 figures from a network of site, **my personal goal**, any further help people can give me would be great.
Knut
June 1st, 2002, 01:16
Thanks, wly :)
xzx: Yup, as I said - I know a few people make 5 figures monthly (more than $10 k) from their sites (which amounts to 6 figures/year - which it seems is what you're referring to).
It's definitely possible. I won't name them, though. People who do well have a tendency of not wanting to share too much information in a public forum, as there are always a lot of copycats out there.. no point in attracting attention to yourself and create extra competition ;)
I don't know anyone who make 6 figures monthly, but I'm sure there are some of those out there too :)
lol, all i want 6 figures annually or close too. What is the best way to get that?
EX: Banners, popups, ads, e-mail, commision, all of the above?
also, anyone know how to get listed in yahoo? i tried several times in the past and never got in, when all the ----ty sites got in.
WabbyTwax
June 4th, 2002, 02:26
Im about the same as toefur.. same unique visits a day.. and same amount earned per day. I get it from focusin.com but they include some popups in their banners. My site is www.originalicons.com
Its really NOT that much. Considering I was making about $150 a day with 25,000 visitors a day over a year ago with amazing media. The glory days are gone for advertising :(
how do they pay and how much? Any terms?
Originally posted by WabbyTwax
Im about the same as toefur.. same unique visits a day.. and same amount earned per day. I get it from focusin.com but they include some popups in their banners. My site is www.originalicons.com
Its really NOT that much. Considering I was making about $150 a day with 25,000 visitors a day over a year ago with amazing media. The glory days are gone for advertising :(
sweet......
Over 1000 views, I guess this is a pretty interesting topic...
How do they pay and under what terms???
BlackDeath
June 8th, 2002, 13:19
http://www.trashtraffic.com/ 6 cents per lick
i mean click :D
Originally posted by BlackDeath
http://www.trashtraffic.com/ 6 cents per lick
i mean click :D
I was wondering about focusin.com and fastclick.com...
xzx
June 10th, 2002, 19:11
Does anyone know how Focusin.com and faskclicks.com pays? Are they good companies??
Jan
June 10th, 2002, 19:27
I can't speak for focusin, but fastclick is definitely a good company and they pay :cool:
xzx
June 10th, 2002, 20:27
Originally posted by Jan
I can't speak for focusin, but fastclick is definitely a good company and they pay :cool:
The Fastclick Ad Network gives you control, flexibility and a reliable monthly payment equal to 65% of the revenue Fastclick receives from selling your ad space.
Display Fastclick banners, skyscrapers, InVue ads, or Fastclick Pop-Unders
Great rates: We pay by impression (CPM) and click (CPC) and give you 65% of the sale!
So how does this all work??
What are the average rates? 65% of the sale means what?
Thanks...
nitroboy
June 11th, 2002, 04:36
Originally posted by xzx
65% of the sale means what?
an example: if an advertiser pays $1 for 1000 impressions and you show these 1000 impressions, you get $0.65
xzx
June 11th, 2002, 11:19
Originally posted by NITROboy
an example: if an advertiser pays $1 for 1000 impressions and you show these 1000 impressions, you get $0.65
Yeah, I figured as much, but are they one of the best payers on the net?
List the best payers on the net and how much they pay please. Thanks....
SilverX
June 14th, 2002, 11:47
Originally posted by xzx
Does anyone know how Focusin.com and faskclicks.com pays? Are they good companies??
i have heard lots of good things about them...
nitroboy
June 14th, 2002, 13:22
fastclick is probably one of the best out there, if not the best...
but it's hard to get in
focusin: the show the default banner way too much, and some popups are annoying, they have very fem CPM and CPC banners, I make the most money out of CPM popups/unders
SilverX
June 14th, 2002, 15:06
Originally posted by NITROboy
fastclick is probably one of the best out there, if not the best...
but it's hard to get in
focusin: the show the default banner way too much, and some popups are annoying, they have very fem CPM and CPC banners, I make the most money out of CPM popups/unders
Nice site man, So you would say that fastclicks is the best company? I am wondering, how good is the pay, it says 65% but of what? Thanks....
nitroboy
June 14th, 2002, 17:09
Originally posted by SilverX
Nice site man, So you would say that fastclicks is the best company? I am wondering, how good is the pay, it says 65% but of what? Thanks....
I have no experience with them as my site has been rejected by them, but I have only heard good things about them
I am almost 100% sure their rates are better than focusin
with 65% they mean they will pay you 65% of the amout advertisers are paying fastclick to get their promotion
an example: if someone pays $1 for 1000 impressions and you show these 1000 impressions your earn $0.65, that means 65%
SilverX
June 14th, 2002, 19:47
Originally posted by NITROboy
I have no experience with them as my site has been rejected by them, but I have only heard good things about them
I am almost 100% sure their rates are better than focusin
with 65% they mean they will pay you 65% of the amout advertisers are paying fastclick to get their promotion
an example: if someone pays $1 for 1000 impressions and you show these 1000 impressions your earn $0.65, that means 65%
yeah, i know what 65% means, i am wondering about what dollar figure it is?
Jan
June 14th, 2002, 19:54
That would depend entirely on how many impressions. There is no set $ amount. Some sites it could $1000,s, others maybe under $100.
SilverX
June 15th, 2002, 14:37
that is still not what i meant, what is their avg bid rate? $5 cpm???
Archbob
June 16th, 2002, 00:42
I don't think fastclick will accepting anime and gaming sites. I might be wrong though. Fastclick has recently had a large % of default banners and pop-ups.
Hoth
June 17th, 2002, 01:37
Ah, to think what I'd do to get thousands of daily uniques like some of the people here. :( But anyhow I make around $200 a month (~$6.60/day) from one of my sites, with about 300-350 daily uniques. The way to do that is to never waste any time on banners, find some good affiliate programs, and use text links from those that are very well targeted and just seem like natural content. Make it look like content instead of like an ad, and you'll get click through rates around 10% or higher (that's about where mine are). Maybe only 1 out of 500 people who click actually make a purchase, but if the commission is significant you still make out far better than with banners. Of course, you have to have the type of site where those sorts of affiliate programs can be found... web hosting affiliate programs are what's always worked best for me.
SilverX
June 17th, 2002, 11:18
dang, what's your site?
Damoose
June 17th, 2002, 11:27
Originally posted by Hoth
Ah, to think what I'd do to get thousands of daily uniques like some of the people here. :( But anyhow I make around $200 a month (~$6.60/day) from one of my sites, with about 300-350 daily uniques. The way to do that is to never waste any time on banners, find some good affiliate programs, and use text links from those that are very well targeted and just seem like natural content. Make it look like content instead of like an ad, and you'll get click through rates around 10% or higher (that's about where mine are). Maybe only 1 out of 500 people who click actually make a purchase, but if the commission is significant you still make out far better than with banners. Of course, you have to have the type of site where those sorts of affiliate programs can be found... web hosting affiliate programs are what's always worked best for me.
hat is amazing, what site is it? and congrats on that achievement.
SilverX
June 17th, 2002, 14:36
Originally posted by Hoth
Ah, to think what I'd do to get thousands of daily uniques like some of the people here. :( But anyhow I make around $200 a month (~$6.60/day) from one of my sites, with about 300-350 daily uniques. The way to do that is to never waste any time on banners, find some good affiliate programs, and use text links from those that are very well targeted and just seem like natural content. Make it look like content instead of like an ad, and you'll get click through rates around 10% or higher (that's about where mine are). Maybe only 1 out of 500 people who click actually make a purchase, but if the commission is significant you still make out far better than with banners. Of course, you have to have the type of site where those sorts of affiliate programs can be found... web hosting affiliate programs are what's always worked best for me.
My site is anime related and I have twice the uniques you got. Can you tell me the name so I can start making money.
I have 700-800 Uniques a day and haven't got any banners or popups, yet. I am looking for the best company to sign upp for. I tried Fastclicks and the rejected my site, why, i don't know. Any one know of any other good ones?
Thanks.....
Hoth
June 18th, 2002, 02:54
My profitable site is http://www.free-webmaster-resources.net (Kinda simplistic design, but easy to maintain. The hosting page gets most of the hits and makes probably 85% of the profit). Unfortunately there's no formula that'll work across all sites... I have some other sites with a fair number of uniques that I've never been able to make anything off of (well, no more than a couple dollars).
For any site, though, the amount of money you make per visitor will have a direct correlation to how related the search term the visitor comes in by (presuming search engine traffic) is to the item you're hoping to get the person to buy. If you look at your counter/tracker/logs and see what search terms people are coming in by, that'll give you an idea of the affiliate programs you should look to sign up with. Likewise, if you can do so while making it flow naturally, you might want to change the text of your pages a little to try to attract more profitable search terms. For example if you're hoping to get people to buy anime videos like someone further up in the thread suggested, it's best to find a natural way to mention terms that people looking to buy those would be searching for a few times in your text so that search engines will see it.
SilverX
June 19th, 2002, 15:25
Originally posted by Hoth
My profitable site is http://www.free-webmaster-resources.net (Kinda simplistic design, but easy to maintain. The hosting page gets most of the hits and makes probably 85% of the profit). Unfortunately there's no formula that'll work across all sites... I have some other sites with a fair number of uniques that I've never been able to make anything off of (well, no more than a couple dollars).
For any site, though, the amount of money you make per visitor will have a direct correlation to how related the search term the visitor comes in by (presuming search engine traffic) is to the item you're hoping to get the person to buy. If you look at your counter/tracker/logs and see what search terms people are coming in by, that'll give you an idea of the affiliate programs you should look to sign up with. Likewise, if you can do so while making it flow naturally, you might want to change the text of your pages a little to try to attract more profitable search terms. For example if you're hoping to get people to buy anime videos like someone further up in the thread suggested, it's best to find a natural way to mention terms that people looking to buy those would be searching for a few times in your text so that search engines will see it.
You make that kind of money from refferals?
Hoth
June 20th, 2002, 02:14
The little $1 per lead type of things usually aren't very useful in my experience, but some per sale programs (ones where you may be making $10-$50 per sale) can be good. 99% won't do anything for you, but if you're lucky you stumble onto a couple that fit your site perfectly. If you just want to slap something onto a page without monitoring it then banners/popups work best, but with a lot of experimentation and some luck per-sale programs can do a lot better... again, depending on how much there is out there for your type of site.
SilverX
June 20th, 2002, 13:19
Originally posted by Archbob
I don't think fastclick will accepting anime and gaming sites. I might be wrong though. Fastclick has recently had a large % of default banners and pop-ups.
your right, they don't accept my site. How bout focusin, do they have good rates?
w3exit
June 22nd, 2002, 13:19
i think a multi-source income is better ... have a good mix of affiliate comms, ad revenue, product sales, etc.
nitroboy
June 22nd, 2002, 13:52
Originally posted by SilverX
your right, they don't accept my site. How bout focusin, do they have good rates?
if most of your traffic is US it may be a good alternative if you don't get accepted by another company
l posted my focusin rates here (http://www.freewebspace.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=28617) if you're interested
SilverX
June 22nd, 2002, 18:42
With those rates, I can't even afford to buy me some used socks...
Cyphix
July 13th, 2002, 17:07
For the person that wanted tips on getting into Yahoo:
http://www.selfpromotion.com/yahootips.t
:)
Agum
July 13th, 2002, 18:23
Knut i want to check out your sites to see how great they do... but all your sites are Forbidden to me.. either you have some problems with your servers or you've banned my IP from all your sites? but i've never visited your sites before nor do i even know you, so i don't know why would you ban me, and i use cable (static IP, and btw i'm in california) i wouldn't believe that you banned all cable users also.
cdmate
July 17th, 2002, 17:18
Anyone interested in a good affiliate program can check out my profile.
I work for this company and can tell you that the download ratio to sales is very high and most internet users can use our software as it can backup protected cds and playstation games and convert mp3s from cds and LOTS more!
If you have any questions you can always contact me.
Jan
July 17th, 2002, 18:10
I must say your approach to potential customers is unprofessional. I was confronted with this on your site.
We regret that we are no longer supporting your web browser (Netscape 4.X).
We apologise for any inconvenience that this has caused but you really should consider upgrading as Netscape Navigator 4.X is old and no longer supports today's HTML and CSS
standards.
As we wish to write an attractive site that loads quickly for our visitors and is easy for us to update, we have decided to stop supporting the ageing relic that is the Netscape 4.X range
of browsers.
:angry2:
cdmate
July 18th, 2002, 07:00
Originally posted by Jan
I must say your approach to potential customers is unprofessional. I was confronted with this on your site.
:angry2:
Yes Jan you are probably correct, we have reworded slightly our designers strange sense of humour, but we do allow you to continue to our site, while making you aware of some problems you may encounter.
http://secure.cd-mate.com/ns47.php
This is the page you see for anyone else interested.
This is this weeks stats too for browsers.
MS Internet Explorer (Versions) 1377369 92.6 %
Netscape (Versions) 42720 2.8 %
Opera 31560 2.1 %
Gld you brought this up though as i was not aware of this.
Hope we did not offend you too much, but we do try and cater for all visitors as much as possible!
wly
July 20th, 2002, 19:31
Same problem here Knut,
Can't access your site, it says
"Forbidden
You don't have permission to access / on this server."
I'm also on cable. :)
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