Destroying the Internet

[Gayowulf]

How hard do you think destroying- totally obliterating the internet- every aspect of it- would be. After all thats why the internet was created as an alternative to a central network prone to being destroyed by a bomb. Think of how fast the internet has grown and changed throughout the last 10 years. how long woul it take to abourt it and what would the implications be.



I mean ive seen coffee pots advertized that access the internet and same with microwaves. just so you can read your email while getting your coffee.

WTF next?

[Rodie]

Originally posted by Gayowulf
How hard do you think destroying- totally obliterating the internet- every aspect of it- would be. After all thats why the internet was created as an alternative to a central network prone to being destroyed by a bomb. Think of how fast the internet has grown and changed throughout the last 10 years. how long woul it take to abourt it and what would the implications be.



I mean ive seen coffee pots advertized that access the internet and same with microwaves. just so you can read your email while getting your coffee.

WTF next?

I would say you would need to totally obliterate earth to *totally* get rid of the internet. (Sadly, that probably wouldn't be too hard to do with the right nukes in the wrong hands) The reason is that to fully get rid of the internet, you'd probably need to elimate all LANs and WANs as well.

LOL, but the internet will probably expand beyond earth someday. Cisco did, or at least used to, have provisions for STANs (Star-Trek Area Networks), and MEANs (Moon-Earth Area Networks)

[razor]

you could stop the internet a little by crippiling the major backbones,(sprint,at&t, etc)

[Koolguy]

You could also take down most of the internet by knocking off all of the main DNS servers.

[Canuckkev]

Hmm...taking down the main DNS servers and major backbones would close up most of the internet for a little while, but it wouldn't be permanent. Maybe organizing a group/cult of people, about a million or so from all around the world, and brainwash them into doing whatever you tell them to do. Them make them go around and smash up every single isp's servers. Getting some law enforcements agents/politicians in on this would help. I don't really know...just a possible suggestion. When the world(online world, anyways) comes to an end, please don't mention I told you to do this.

[Gayowulf]

What if everyone just stopped using it. so there would be 0 people on earth connected at any given time

[Canuckkev]

Well, if people stop using it, it doesn't mean it's gone, right?

[Rodie]

If an internet falls in the woods, and no one is online, is it really gone?

[Coolin]

The internet doesn't fall in the woods.

[Gayowulf]

Is the internet even a physical thing? Maybe this is turning into more of a philosophical question.

[}:8) Supermoo]

No, it's not... yet. ;)

The internet is still a physical thing, although a rather large one. You will always need something physical to transfer data through, even if it's air, it's still physical.

Unless we all live in a thing like in The Matrix, but that too ran off computers so um... yeah. It's physical. ;)

[}:8) Supermoo]

The other question, how to knock down the Internet... It's simple choose one of the following;

Large range EMP
Nuke the world
Stop majority of power sources
Block the sun ;)
Release a new virus called 'Windows' and watch it kill all sanity online! ;)


Legal Note:
"Windows" in the above context was reffering to thin pains of glass, not any past, present or future forms of Operating Systems or Computers. Have a nice day M$ legal team! :D

[LeX]

My question:

Why destroy it? :confused:

[Koolguy]

Probably because it has become a over used, Cluttered, pies of ----.

:P

[Coolin]

Koolguy, if it is that bad... Why do you use it so often?

[Koolguy]

i dunno, some sites are good others are crap....


get rid of the crap and ill be happy

[jw]

Actually all you'd need to so is to take out the following servers:
a.root-servers.net
b.root-servers.net
c.root-servers.net
d.root-servers.net
e.root-servers.net
f.root-servers.net
g.root-servers.net
h.root-servers.net
i.root-servers.net
j.root-servers.net
k.root-servers.net
l.root-servers.net
m.root-servers.net

these servers are what control all domains. take them down and you have pretty much taken down the whole internet as we know it. Sure IPs would still work, but I only know like 10 ips. Too bad these servers are located around the world and each have about 100 backups. Good luck :)

[Rodie]

Originally posted by Coolin
The internet doesn't fall in the woods.

I'm guessing that either went right over your head or you're just trying to accumulate more posts.

[Edited by Rodie on 02-19-2001 at 06:05 PM]

[keith]

i'll take the latter

[Coolin]

Originally posted by Rodie
If an internet falls in the woods, and no one is online, is it really gone? I take it that you were somehow trying to make an attempt at humour by modifying an old phrase. However I do not understand why would say something about the internet, which isn't a physical object by the way, somehow "falling" into the woods. Naturally, I asked a question to myself: How the heck can the internet fall in the woods? The answer: It doesn't. All I did was say how the internet cannot in any way fall in the woods.

[Gayowulf]

What the hell was that, Coolin. not to be mean or anything but who cares.
Maybe we from now on we should strive to be non-degrading people.

[Coolin]

Gayowulf, I only posted that to defend myself from the degrading comments of Rodie.

[Gayowulf]

Two Wrongs dont make a right ;)

[Coolin]

I didn't make a wrong did I?

[Rodie]

Originally posted by Coolin

Originally posted by Rodie
If an internet falls in the woods, and no one is online, is it really gone? I take it that you were somehow trying to make an attempt at humour by modifying an old phrase. However I do not understand why would say something about the internet, which isn't a physical object by the way, somehow "falling" into the woods. Naturally, I asked a question to myself: How the heck can the internet fall in the woods? The answer: It doesn't. All I did was say how the internet cannot in any way fall in the woods.

Coolin, I honestly have no idea if you have something against me, or why you seemingly continue to take it upon yourself to post so many disparaging replies to a number of my posts (the napster/kbps mp3 thing included). I don't know, maybe it's not just me you do this to. I don't want to know the reason, nor is my life so meaningless that I should give a damn.

In any event, my comment was geared at Canuckkev's post that said "Well, if people stop using it, it doesn't mean it's gone, right?"

I just posted a short version of an old philosophical rhetorical question. I know that the "internet" doesn't literally fall in the woods. I'm not a dumbass, and I don't really appreciate being treated as such. I was using the older question as nothing more than a metaphorical allusion.

I don't have a problem with you Coolin, but I really don't appreciate your condescending tone to a lot of people here as of late. Just take a little off the edge please.

[Rodie]

Another thing is that you're certainly entitled to your own opinion on whether the internet is a physical thing(and maybe it is a philosophical question heh), but I just got done networking a room for my school, and it's a little hard for me to accept that electonic signals just magically flow without any medium to travel on to your computer.

Unless Microsoft develops some telekentic network I would still consider it to be a physical thing. But once again you are entitled to your opinion, just don't force it on everyone else like it's the end-all answer.

[Nick]

Originally posted by Koolguy
...pies of ----.

Pies eh? I've heard 'pieces of ----' used before but never 'pies of ----'. I'll probablly be using that now. I can already hear myself saying it:

"Stop giving me an illegal error you pie of ----!" :D.

[Koolguy]

haha, i guess i cant type

[Rodie]

Hmm, there's something you won't see in your local bakery

[Gayowulf]

LOL that is funny. i like it. I bet supermoo would be an expert at making those ;)


they actually do make those at the local bakery, at least thats what they taste, smell and look like. well they taste like ---- looks anyways

[Nick]

Originally posted by Koolguy
haha, i guess i cant type

Who cares, you gave a few people a good laugh :D.

[Koolguy]

True, the things we do by accident are usually funnier then things we try to do on purpose (unless we fail at it and it just becomes more funny). :D

[Epgs]

Yeah that is why we laugh at americas funnniest videos even though bob saggett is stupid

[Nick]

Originally posted by Epgs
bob saggett is stupid

I thought his last name started with an 'F' :eek:.

[Rodie]

Originally posted by Epgs
Yeah that is why we laugh at americas funnniest videos even though bob saggett is stupid

LOL, I don't know how, but that show is *still* on the air. But I think Bob Sagget is long since gone.

[Hobbes]

LOL I like the tangent this thread has taken.

I bet its in competition for Sesame Street and the longest running show lol. Oh wait. Maybe AOL will buy Ams. FUnniest Home Vids. Ah. anyway.

Oh.. to stay on topic: If the internet was destroyed we'd have to go back to watching tv. Which I'm sure AOL would dominate. LOL. That way everyone would get a lucky break: AOL would send out complimentary TVs.

[Rodie]

I really hope AOL starts sending out their software on CD-RW discs. Would be just like the good ole days when they sent everyone all those free floppies

[Coolin]

Yeah, I know. My friend gave me a game that he programmed onto three AOL disks.

[Hobbes]

LOL I hope AOL sends out CD-RW disks.. that'd be nice. I mean.. that's why I bought this $220 CD-RW drive! And it's up to AOL to supply the media for me!

[Canuckkev]

I have(had) a whole lottta those old AOL floppies. It would be kinda nice if they gave out CR-RW's.

[Koolguy]

I have about 20 AOL cd's, not much use except frizbees.

[Gayowulf]

I use the AHOLE (aol) cds for coasters and things to throw and break when im mad (which is good because one of my speakers is held onto my monitor by ducttape, and wont take much more beating) if the internet dissapperaed id have to do my homework. i have no tv (well i have one but i get no channels not even farmervision.) but i doubt the internet will dissappear (unless bush demands it, which will happen when he hears rumors that his wife is an internet porn star)

[Webdude]

Just wait until what took over and killed off the dinosaurs comes back.

[Epgs]

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which will happen when he hears rumors that his wife is an internet porn star)
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I like it. Yah know i really think that would be funny. Then he would try to stop the internet and somebody would hack whitehouse.gov and put his wifes pictures up.

[Nick]

AT least 50 of our 300+ floppies floating around at the office are AOL ones. Now we use them to transfer client databases from one machine to the next until the network is up :D.

[Hobbes]

LOL

Back in 8th grade AOL did send us some CDs.. and we used them for our science project: Wheels on a balsa wood car LOL... it worked nice.

[Coolin]

Hey! I did the exact same thing! Except for the fact that I threw away all my AOL disks the day before the assignment was assigned :(

We used two of my partner's Boyz II Men CD's for the back wheel. The car went almost 20 metres.

[Koolguy]

Personally I don't use floppies very much anymore now that I have a CD-RW and ZIP drives.

[Coolin]

I still find floppies to be very useful to save homework assignments, small programs, and some text files to when I reformat my Hard Drive. (Which I used to do every 15 days.) But now I only do it every 2-3months.

[Nick]

Originally posted by Koolguy
Personally I don't use floppies very much anymore now that I have a CD-RW and ZIP drives.

Same here, but you have to understand that our office doesn't rely on computers as much as we should, so the largest file is the Client DB which is 1.3MBs. This summer I'm scanning 4,000+ file folders worth of information into a computer for the network. I can't wait :p.

[Hobbes]

Originally posted by Coolin
Hey! I did the exact same thing! Except for the fact that I threw away all my AOL disks the day before the assignment was assigned :(

We used two of my partner's Boyz II Men CD's for the back wheel. The car went almost 20 metres.

Yeah.. our car went pretty far and was then showcased in the "SCIENCE HALL OF FAME" for the rest of the year. lol

[Canuckkev]

I did something like that, but did not use cds for my wheels. Rubber band covered plastic covered bottle caps did the trick for me. They provided the traction required to get a fast start. I used a set mousetrap to get the power, so without any traction, when the spring went off, the wheels would just spin out.

[Epgs]

Go for real power strap on a big block, well i guess use a CO2 cartridge those are fun, and and hey they could help destroy the internet (get back on topic) blow one up near each computer.

[Coolin]

Our rubber band broke right before the race, we could have gotten so far as our mouse trap lost half of its power before the car stopped skidding and started going.

[LeX]

It's so weird to see the thread subject up at the top saying "Destroying the Internet" and right below it on the 4th page you see "Back in 8th grade AOL did send us some CDs.. and we used them for our science project: Wheels on a balsa wood car LOL... it worked nice."

AOL started sending out CDs to us a few years ago, so I only collected about 10 AOL floppy disks. They were real useful back then, people traded games on those disks. So AOL was real hot back then... of course, nobody was using the 20 free hours, even if they wanted to. :D

Personally, I don't think any company would be stupid enough to send out CD-RWs, they ain't that dumb.

[Coolin]

Originally posted by LeX
Personally, I don't think any company would be stupid enough to send out CD-RWs, they ain't that dumb. Knowing AOL, they'll find an absolutely good reason for them and we'll be enjoying them again.

[LeX]

Knowing people in their right minds, nobody would.

[Rodie]

Maybe the environmental agencies will get on them. It can't be good for the earth when people blow up those things in the microwave. if they gave out CD-RW's, people would get some use out of 'em. heh

[Koolguy]

Did you know that if you have a small amount of data or music on a cd-r you can cut it down to about the size of a soup can and you can play them normally.

[Koolguy]

In fact I actaully tried it right now with a old cd that ran out of buffer on the second track and it worked!

[LeX]

Yeah I knew that. Some singers' record companies here sell singles that has only one or two songs on the CD, and it's about the size of, yes, soup cans, maybe a bit larger. So in other words, you can scratch and break the part of the CD that doesn't have any data stored on it, and it will still play normally.