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megabuxx
February 19th, 2001, 10:56
megabuxx.com now has openings for ten beta testers. We
pay $2.00 CPM for a background window that always stays
in the background.

To be a beta tester you must have a legal, non-adult site
that receives at least 500 hits per day. You should examine
our site at http://www.megabuxx.com and then e-mail us requesting
the URL for our beta tester registration page.

The beta period allows us to test the market response to
our background window.

Thanks for your interest.

megabuxx.com

Czar
February 19th, 2001, 11:29
megabuxx, could you please answer a few questions:

1. Do you pay once/unique visitor, or once/impression?
2. Have you yet signed up any advertisers, or does this program solely promote your own properties during BETA phase?
3. Do you offer online reporting and, if so, how often are the stats updated?
4. Are you seriously going to donate 25% of your profits to charitable causes?
5. What CPM rate do you expect to offer at launch?

I presume that you are aware of the similar program offered by AdScholar that pays $4CPM for popbehinds. GoClick offers $2.5 and PopupTraffic offers $2 for popbehinds. None of those companies mentioned automatically maximise the 'popped' window, as you do. Given that, could you advise as to what competitive advantage you intend to acheive over these more established firms? (ie, better payouts for publishers, better technology, superior targeting, etc)

There is indeed a growing market for what you have to offer, and I realise that you're still testing, but your answers to the questions above should help potential members in deciding whether or not to try your program.

megabuxx
February 19th, 2001, 13:59
Greetings, thank you for your interest.

We will try to answer your questions to the best of our
ability. Please note that since we are still in a test
phase our program details could change according to
market demand, webmaster requests, unexpected problems, etc.

1. Our software currently records per unique hit as defined
within a 24 hour period.

2. During the BETA phase we will be experimenting with
different kinds content in our background window.

We currently have special arrangements with Way Internet Inc
and our using their search-textlink program as our first
test revenue generator. We may also end up using a page
such as clickheretofind.com (Standard Internet) that is
loaded with different reputable sponsors.

3. Stats are currently functioning using a simple script
and are fully real-time. There are zero delays.

4. It is our intent to donate one quarter of our NET profits
to charity. We plan to post these donations on our main
site. Of course, as with any new venture, we may or may not
actually score a profit during the first months.

5. We are currently offering beta testers $2.00 CPM. Our
CPM rate during the actual launch may increase or decrease
depending on how well our background window performs. At
any rate, we will pay at least 75% of our earnings to
webmasters.

The competitive advantage over all other popup companies
is quite obvious: our popup is the only one that doesn't
get in the visitor's way, period. Even if a visitor left
your site our window would still stay behind. Nobody likes
being forced to see someting, even if it is on-exit. You
won't have that problem with megabuxx.

If you have more questions please feel free to post
a reply.

megabuxx.com

}:8) Supermoo
February 19th, 2001, 14:17
Originally posted by megabuxx
Greetings, thank you for your interest.

We will try to answer your questions to the best of our
ability. Please note that since we are still in a test
phase our program details could change according to
market demand, webmaster requests, unexpected problems, etc.


Nice to hear... but haven't we already heard that?!?! ;)



1. Our software currently records per unique hit as defined
within a 24 hour period.


Good! :)



2. During the BETA phase we will be experimenting with
different kinds content in our background window.

We currently have special arrangements with Way Internet Inc
and our using their search-textlink program as our first
test revenue generator. We may also end up using a page
such as clickheretofind.com (Standard Internet) that is
loaded with different reputable sponsors.


Would it not be more economical to start with an SI style website and attempt to mathch their $15 CPM exit program?



3. Stats are currently functioning using a simple script
and are fully real-time. There are zero delays.


What was your definition of real-time then? ;)



4. It is our intent to donate one quarter of our NET profits
to charity. We plan to post these donations on our main
site. Of course, as with any new venture, we may or may not
actually score a profit during the first months.


If it was amazon.com their would still be $0 donated... I'm sure those charaties are looking forward to this! :)



5. We are currently offering beta testers $2.00 CPM. Our
CPM rate during the actual launch may increase or decrease
depending on how well our background window performs. At
any rate, we will pay at least 75% of our earnings to
webmasters.


Sounds Good! :D



The competitive advantage over all other popup companies
is quite obvious: our popup is the only one that doesn't
get in the visitor's way, period.

Excluding popbehinds from almost every pop-up company


Even if a visitor left your site our window would still stay behind.

Like all the others


Nobody likes being forced to see someting, even if it is on-exit.

You're program won't change this... will it?


You won't have that problem with megabuxx.

A huh?!?!



If you have more questions please feel free to post
a reply.


Thanks! :D



megabuxx.com

No thanks! ;)

megabuxx
February 19th, 2001, 14:44
Greetings,

You certainly have good points. Such a program may not fit
all webmaster needs. Fortunately, there are lots of different
sponsors out there with very good compensation systems.

Yes, the direction we are taking seems to be towards a
SI-style website. We don't intend to keep a low CPM
rate for long but we aren't prepared to offer $15 CPM
at the start until we have completed some market research.

As for the charitable donations, we don't mean that we
won't donate until all our debt is gone. If that were
the case, no donations would be made -- and that's bad
business. (Almost as bad as asking forum users to stop
picking apart our program) ;)

Thanks!

megabuxx.com

Graeme
February 19th, 2001, 18:07
how about you make it use cookies as well so it will only popup once per user :)

}:8) Supermoo
February 19th, 2001, 23:02
Good idea Graeme! What's your opinion on the subject megabuxx?


Originally posted by megabuxx
Greetings,

You certainly have good points. Such a program may not fit
all webmaster needs. Fortunately, there are lots of different
sponsors out there with very good compensation systems.


One of the main reasons this forum exists, nice start though! ;)



Yes, the direction we are taking seems to be towards a
SI-style website. We don't intend to keep a low CPM
rate for long but we aren't prepared to offer $15 CPM
at the start until we have completed some market research.


Good idea, poorley compensate the beta testers. After all they are doing you a favour. Maybe you should consider offering them a constant slightly larger (5-10%) revenue stream? To say 'Thankyou, for ironing out our bugs'.



As for the charitable donations, we don't mean that we
won't donate until all our debt is gone. If that were
the case, no donations would be made -- and that's bad
business.

You claimed "NET PROFIT" (in capitals) normaly suggesting your NET profit. Let's have a think about that one, that would mean profit after all expenses (including debt) are taken from the revenue. Leaving a NET revenue, typically small for internet start-ups and even some 'larger' players!


(Almost as bad as asking forum users to stop
picking apart our program) ;)


lol :D

Don't worry I do this to just about every new program. ;)



Thanks!


No, I thankyou! ;)



megabuxx.com


Ever heard of a signature? ;)

Czar
February 19th, 2001, 23:49
Megabuxx, Supermoo has noted a strong point that questions the amount of market research that you've completed.


The competitive advantage over all other popup companies is quite obvious: our popup is the only one that doesn't get in the visitor's way, period. Even if a visitor left your site our window would still stay behind.

Almost all popup companies support this. I mentioned many of these in my initial post, but you must have missed them ;)

PopupTraffic pays $2CPM for popbehinds (which don't automatically-maximise themselves). GoClick pays $2.5CPM for targeted popbehinds. AdScholar pays $4CPM for GianStitial popbehinds (which are far less intrusive than your test window).

You'll need to come up with some other reason to make this program worthwhile if you hope to attract quality publishers. Pay rates aren't everything, and you shouldn't be asked to match the AllClicks $15CPM exit program (since that spawns multiple windows), but you do need to offer something unique, compelling and exciting to those you wish to serve.

}:8) Supermoo
February 20th, 2001, 01:09
Originally posted by Czar
Pay rates aren't everything, and you shouldn't be asked to match the AllClicks $15CPM exit program (since that spawns multiple windows), but you do need to offer something unique, compelling and exciting to those you wish to serve.

I don't believe he was ever asked to match AllClicks exit program;



Would it not be more economical to start with an SI style website and attempt to mathch their $15 CPM exit program?


Attempt to match them.

Just thought I'd clear that up! ;)

Keep up the good work Czar! :D

Haze
February 20th, 2001, 07:14
hmm.. allclicks has an exit program?

Czar
February 20th, 2001, 07:23
Their exit program is a limited-membership offering that is released in bouts every now and then.

You will rarely, if ever, see this promoted on the AllClicks site, but Robert will often recruit members from forums such as this.

Johnny
February 20th, 2001, 09:31
damn another sponsor company! If people didn't notice that there are a slowdown on internet advertisments

Cheap Bastard
February 20th, 2001, 13:13
stop beating up on him...

besides, the allclicks exit program is highly over-rated. First of all, the clickheretofind page loads SLOW, making 90% of the users close the exit before the browser even had a chance to connect to the server... Secondly the allclicks exit does have another popup...

With the pop-behind method probly 90% of the hits count, cuz people don't notice it till they leave your page, and it's had plenty of chance to load...

Also you said he should pay them a lot more during the beta... You can't deal out money you don't have, now can you.

Sure he's got plenty of competition. He's got some good points and some bad one's... Shouldn't kick him down with the bad points without mentioning the good ones.

That's just my 2 rusty pennies

Johnny
February 20th, 2001, 13:37
Hey you know that the go network is gonna go out of busness.
and searchtraffic is a reseller for them. I wonder what is search traffic gonna use?

BTw they are own by allclicks.

}:8) Supermoo
February 20th, 2001, 13:46
Cheap Bastard, my connection to http://www.clickheretofind.com/ has been boosted dramatically! It also no longer comes anywhere near the mass spamming banners of before!

Now it's just a good site! I gladly redirect all my useless (people who try to leave before they enter the website) traffic to them. And make a fair sum of money. :)

Johnny, I don't think any Standard Internet program is in any way connected with the GO network. I could be wrong though, :(.

Johnny
February 20th, 2001, 14:36
If you go to searchtraffic or any one that uses searchtraffic and do a search you will see that it will popup a new link to go network with the keyword you typed in.

Sphosting.com
February 20th, 2001, 14:48
its not the GO network its GOTO.com, search traffic.com uses goto.com and no go.com, there totally different companies anyway.

megabuxx
February 20th, 2001, 17:57
Hey everybody,

Lots of comments going around here. First, we don't intend to keep an uncompetitive CPM. Second, our system actually tracks around 95% of all visitors. We credit members with an impression the second the window starts loading (not when it finishes). Our program is also available to webmasters in every single country.

There are still _lots_ of things to iron out so we do appreciate any comments/criticism we receive.

Any detailed ideas/comments can be sent to comments@megabuxx.com

Best wishes,

megabuxx.com

Robert from SI
February 20th, 2001, 18:55
I'm not making coments on megabucks, just replying to comments made about my company.


>>>>
First of all, the clickheretofind page loads SLOW, making 90% of the users close the exit before the browser even had a chance to connect to the server...
>>>>>

These statements are completely false.

The site loads perfectly fine and we pay for 100% of the page loads using a 12 hour unique IP count. (Considering we currently pay for 500,000 daily clicks I'd like to know where the other 4,500,000 we don't pay for are.)


We do not work with the Go.com. GoTo.com is one of our search partners.

Czar
February 20th, 2001, 19:43
SearchTraffic's main alliance is with GoTo.com - not Go.com.

They are under no threat.

Cheap Bastard, I'm not sure to whom you were directing those comments, but I never said that megabuxx have to pay their members more, but suggested they need to offer something unique - whether that be higher pay rates, better technology, etc. And, for the last time, popbehinds are already used by almost all pop* companies, and none that I know of automatically maximise the behind window. This in itself is no advantage.

I'm criticizing this program for their own good. If megabuxx was to go live with this, they would fail. With more established players offering better payment and better technology, megabuxx would attract only those sites who couldn't gain membership (or who were expelled) from the competing programs.

Cheap Bastard
February 20th, 2001, 21:39
Cow:

Originally posted by }:8) Supermoo
Cheap Bastard, my connection to http://www.clickheretofind.com/ has been boosted dramatically! It also no longer comes anywhere near the mass spamming banners of before!

Now it's just a good site! I gladly redirect all my useless (people who try to leave before they enter the website) traffic to them. And make a fair sum of money. :)


i'm on DSL and it still loads slow. There still is a popup, an exit, and even the exit has yet another exit.

Czar:
i was mainly talking to cow.

Robert from SI:
It's a rough estimate. My results were 95% not counted so i figured it was fairly safe to say 90%. You're right, the connection to clickheretofind has improved somewhat over the last... 6 months. Your program no doubt has too... I thought these posts were opinionated too though.
Shoot me if i'm wrong (but please make it quick;))

Czar
February 21st, 2001, 09:24
Somehow I seem to have missed seeing a few posts before making my previous response. I apologise for repeating the info about GoTo.com, and for being excessively critical of Megabuxx' program. I hadn't read his last post. ;)

I just want to say Megabuxx, if you do count pops before the page has loaded, then that is enough to give you an advantage over several of your competitors as far as payment goes - but you may find it hard to justify this policy to advertisers.

}:8) Supermoo
February 21st, 2001, 13:49
Originally posted by Cheap Bastard
Cow:

i'm on DSL and it still loads slow. There still is a popup, an exit, and even the exit has yet another exit.


Thanks for the excellent title! ;)

The pop-up is not largely graphically enhanced, no where near the size of popuptraffic.com's it's tiny!

Also, It only takes me the minimal 5 sec to get a fully loaded page, no other sites match that one!



Czar:
i was mainly talking to cow.


And obviously ignored his brilliant opinion! :(



Robert from SI:
It's a rough estimate. My results were 95% not counted so i figured it was fairly safe to say 90%. You're right, the connection to clickheretofind has improved somewhat over the last... 6 months. Your program no doubt has too... I thought these posts were opinionated too though.
Shoot me if i'm wrong (but please make it quick;))
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*BANG* :)

Graeme
March 9th, 2001, 17:55
is this site dead now ???? anyway i could use a program that can count like 90% of the popups - is there a site like that out there ?

Cheap Bastard
March 9th, 2001, 18:13
not sure about %, but the goclick popunder seems to be doing good...