Do you play any instruments?

[EpidemiK]

I was just wondering, do you guys play any instruments?

I play Alto Saxophone :biggrin2: It rox :biggrin2:

[shizzle]

Elec and Acust guitar. J/K I'm learning, but I suck.

[el crapo]

alto sax, baritone, valve trombone, and practically any other brass instrument

[Pathetic]

i play guitar decently, used to play piano, used to play clarinet, used to play drums....

[Nick]

I play bass. My weapons of choice are:

1.) Squier Dark Blue P-Bass with Ernie Ball strings, and Grovers (tuning keys).
2.) Fender 2001 Black Standard J-Bass with Ernie Ball Strings

I'm saving up for a good 200W + amp right now.

I also play some guitar. One was left to me by a close family friend so when I finally go get it from his house, I will probablly get better at guitar being as I'll have one laying around to practice on :p.

[Haze]

Guitar, Drums & Piano.

[stu]

I'm a piano man... :cool2:

[Dusty]

I could half-way play the violin many, many years ago. Now I can't tell you for sure how many strings one has without looking. I began teaching myself the piano about three months ago, and I now feel confident in what note corresponds to what key but the only thing I can play well (i.e not inordinately slow or disjointed) is Sarabande.

[keith]

i played trombone 5th through 12th grade.

after graduation, i stuck with the bass clef and, like nick, i now play bass, but i'm more of a peavey guy...

i've got a newer fury 4 and a classic t-40 out of the '70's. the fury's light as hell with a sunburst finish and sounds amazing... the t-40's heavey as hell with a natural finish and sounds even better [both with ernie ball super-slinkies of course]. their weights compliment each other nicely during extended sets when the t-40's about to break my back. i defy anyone to come up with a bass better than the peavey t-40 :cool:

[Nick]

Originally posted by keith
i defy anyone to come up with a bass better than the peavey t-40 :cool:

Ernie Ball Sting Ray (4 String). If only I could afford one :cry2: ...

[keith]

Originally posted by Nick


Ernie Ball Sting Ray (4 String). If only I could afford one :cry2: ... ok ok, something that's a bit more in the t-40 price range... if i could spring $2,500 for a rickenbacker i'd be there in a second... of course i could go with a cirrus and spend about 1/3 the money.

oh yeah, dual humbuckers on the t-40 as well... mua ha ha...

[Pathetic]

sorry, but i hate ernie ball, i think they're only good for strings...
super slinkies w00t!

[Gayowulf]

I'm a bass guy too. I also play piano (last 14 yrs)

I'm not a peavey guy, but if someone gave me a peavey bass i wouldn't fuss about it.

At the moment I'm working on making my own bass. Its kind of on hold at the moment, but when i'm done with it it sould be decent

[guitarnerd]

I play Guitar, Bass, Drums, some piano/keys, and a few others
I actually give guitar and bass lessons, I only have one bass student at the moment though.
As for the stingray bass, that is a horrible bass for people who really play bass, Unless you think punk takes talent:p. People who use there fingers to play not picks, The highs on it are great but the bass sounds like a guitar. The actual lows on it are pretty sucky, not to mention it sounds dull with the tone knob down. Remember the whole idea to bass is to feel it not hear it.
As for guitar though, I have a few favorites
Ibanez
Jem7BSB
Jem7vB
But I am saving up for a Ernie Ball Music man John Petrucci Mystic Dream, I played it in guitar center and fell in love.

And about ernie ball, they do make great instruments. I like the Peavy Wolfgangs but they don't have 24 frets.

I also have played in a lot of bands From small to big audiences, I known mainly for playing guitar where I live.
Ok I could go on and on about this but I will stop

[Gayowulf]

Originally posted by guitarnerd
Ok I could go on and on about this but I will stop

lol. I can tell you like the guitar and music in general. like is probably too weak a word. live is probably better :)

You remind me a lot of one of my friends. He is an excellent guitar and bass player and, if started on the topic, could go on forever.

i think its cool

[guitarnerd]

Originally posted by Gayowulf


lol. I can tell you like the guitar and music in general. like is probably too weak a word. live is probably better :)

You sound a lot like one of my friends. He is an excellent guitar and bass player and, if started on the topic, could go on forever.

i think its cool
Yeah, I have even been giving my girlfriend guitar lessons.
Whenever me and my musician friends get together we do one of three things...Jam(most of the time), Record, or play ping pong ball. Two of us have studios and it gets really hot in there when you have 3-5 sweaty people in there(don't get any ideas). So we relax our musical hormones by playing ping pong ball outside.

[Gayowulf]

I've got a studio of sorts too. I keep saying all upload some clips of us playing. i will eventually. i just have to rip it all off of the Minidisc.

[guitarnerd]

Originally posted by Gayowulf
I've got a studio of sorts too. I keep saying all upload some clips of us playing. i will eventually. i just have to rip it all off of the Minidisc.
Yeah that would be cool. Maybe I'll rip a CD I recorded at the beginning of last summer in a local studio with a band called Lucid Dreams. It was weird being 15 playing lead guitar with a bunch of guys that were in there mid 20's

[Gayowulf]

It would seem wierd, but it sounds good to other people you play with. It helps you learn too.

[Nick]

If I had the right ammount of money, I'd probablly get a custom shop American Fender with a metallic silver J-Bass body, a P-Bass rosewood neck, grover tuning keys, j-bass pickups/one p-style pickup, a perloid pickguard and some kind of custom inlays.

Not to mention a nice big Ampeg head and two big cabs :).

Yeah, that would kick --- :cool:.


Guitarnerd: I've played a Stingray before and I found it to be a nice instrument and I liked the feel of it. I don't see how you could come down on the sound that defines the RHCPs. Flea is completely awesome, and if anyone thinks other wise, it's safe to say they're a moron :p. Maybe when you tried one out it wasn't that the instrument was bad, but it wasn't in the hands of a good bassist?

I don't see where you get the idea that a Stingray is a punk bassist's choice since I've only seen one punk bassist that really uses a Stingray on a regular basis (Less Than Jake's Roger). Punk bassists usually use Fender (usually P-Bass style) basses. Most punk doesn't take much talent, but it's fun to play, sometimes.

Oh, and another thing. Just because you play with a pick doesn't mean you cannot play bass. I hate people who go into a lecture about how "real" players use their fingers. Even though I use my fingers more, I still use a pick somtimes and you know what? It doesn't really matter if you use a pick or not, it just depends on what sound you want.

And I think that's about all I have to say :p.

[guitarnerd]

If you think flea is even near that good of a bassist then you are completly missing out, You like flea listen to billy sheehan he is just as sloppy but a million bazillion times better. Listen to Stu Hamm, He knows what bass is supposed to be. Philip Bynoe that guy is the smoothest bassist around. I could go on about them...

I get the feeling that you are using main stream crap as an example of music. Well in a musicians Eyes that is not music that is un-talented crap, and don't argue cause Any gifted talented musician will agree. I have lost respect for all these so called artists, that don't write, produce or pretty much have anything to do with the music they come out with.

If you think Flea is some great bassist think again...

And real players do use there fingers.

[Gayowulf]

You have to admit that flea has some skills. You have to appreciate that. You may not like where he is coming from and what he stands for or his style. He still is a good basist.

I would say my favourite bassist(s) are Victor Wooten and Steve Bailey

[guitarnerd]

Yes he has skill but I am talking about the bassist's who are technically and musically the best. The legends of bass the guys that are the l33t. Flea is good, but I know kids 16 years old better

[Gayowulf]

Yes as far as musically there are much, much better bassists.

I know youve got a broadband connection now.

Go download these two songs:

Victor Wooten- You Can't Hold No Groove
Bela Fleck- Sinister Minister.

The first one is a solo piece, and the second has a bass solo about half way through. This is some of Wooten's more showy stuff. The really technical and jazz stuff that he does isnt quite as much fun to listen to, but it really opened my eyes as to what can be done on a bass.

Theres one called Classical Thump too which I dislike, but the playing is something else.

[bigperm]

Fat Mike (NOFX) is the best punk bassist hands down. No clue what kind of bass he uses though.

[Pathetic]

punk suxx0rz. it requires no skill wutsoever.
actually, i like punk, i juss think it sux.
and it's overrated.
and your mom. ahahhaha.
j.k

[guitarnerd]

I'll download the stuff, but if you can find it Gayowulf you got to go to guitar.com and watch Billy Sheehan's Bass lessons, the guy doesn't know music theory all to well but every now and then he plays a little lick that makes your jaw drop.
Also check out John Myung if you could find his stuff

As for Fat Mike it is more like he is the least crappy of the punk bassists

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It is not overrated there are just a bunch of blind teens that will swallow up anything that someone else is doing, yet somehow they think it makes them unique
Do I see a future banned member?

As for the Sinister minister song I know that song very well...My friend Jon who is a Jam buddy of mine played that song, with a some what famous christian guitarist Jimmy (forgot his last name) Who Is the lead singer and guitarist for a well known christian band that is the christian Equivalency of slayer called...well I can't think of there name at the moment but I will and I'll edit this

[Gayowulf]

Originally posted by guitarnerd
I'll download the stuff, but if you can find it Gayowulf you got to go to guitar.com and watch Billy Sheehan's Bass lessons, the guy doesn't know music theory all to well but every now and then he plays a little lick that makes your jaw drop.
Also check out John Myung if you could find his stuff


I'll check it too.

Wooten offers lessons on his site. there is sheet musc in gif format, clear instructions and realaudio files to go along with it.

I havent looked through it a whole lot, but I know i will over the summer.

[Blank Verse]

Originally posted by Pathetic
punk suxx0rz. it requires no skill wutsoever.
actually, i like punk, i juss think it sux.


Tell that to Brett Gurewitz.

Anywho, I can play pretty much any brass instrument you throw in front of me, but have yet to master the woodwinds. I've started learning to play guitar, and I inherited my Dad's guitar, which is going to be my prized posession forever.

It's a 1976 Gibson Les Paul Standard, Ernie Ball Strings, and it's pretty much in mint condition.

[bigperm]

Originally posted by guitarnerd
christian band that is the christian Equivalency of slayerThat just sound like a bad idea. "God Loves us All"? Sorry, I'll take the Slayer 'God Hates us All' any day.

To append my statements about FAT MIKE. I don't care about bass theory or music theory or any kind of preppy term used to belittle music. Fat Mike makes the coolest sounds with his bass, and that is all I care about.

[Blank Verse]

I don't know what Fatty plays now, but back in the day, he played a Hammer, which was pretty much just a rip off of a higher end Steinburger...it had no head on it.

[guitarnerd]

Yes but for those of us who give respect to the talented, the ones who deserve it...the other guys are an emberassment to music. As for the bassist, if you are a musician it is more flattering any day to impress a single fellow musician than 100 people that know nothing of actual music (no offense).

I in every way hate the fact of what people think of music as, they think eww lets listen cause everyone else listens, who is the trendiest band around. You know that is all bull crap, music is heart and soul. Music takes talent and in my eyes and any good musician that I know, will agree this main stream stuff is an emberrassment to all of us. Now I see little guitar solos coming back, here and there and Some of my favorite guitarist are getting ever more popular. But I don't really care, music is a movement, and is more than people think of it.
Don't get me wrong there is ok a main stream out there with good tunes and stuff, but do you think the band made that, do you think Britney spears wrote those lyrics, Nsync made up that rythem, or NOFX produced there mix? NO they didn't...so why do you give them credit for it? I like people who make there own music.

As for the comment about christian music...That is your choice and I will say no more just because I am not going to get into another "religious" argument. But honestly don't like christian music much more than main stream, it is now looked at as a easier way to get to the main stream. But I am not going to accuse any one of this because if they are doing it for God than I am more wrong than they would be.

[Blank Verse]

You don't know a lot about NOFX, do you?

[guitarnerd]

Originally posted by Blank Verse
You don't know a lot about NOFX, do you?
I have been to 2 of there concerts and used to own a few of there CD's, I used to like them, but I probably know more about them than you think Just to prove I know a little There name actual means

"No F$^$ing Straight Edge" Who are people that are against drugs and alcohol, yet there are two kinds of "X's" THey are either doing it cause they think it is cool to draw a black X on their hand or because they are hypocrites and instead of drugs and alcohol they are violent towards those who do do drugs.

I have a feeling I am gonna start arguments

[Blank Verse]

Then you would know that they produce most of their stuff, and if it's not them, it would have been Brett Gurewitz...I don't see how you can classify them in the same category as Britney Spears and N'Sync.

[guitarnerd]

Originally posted by Blank Verse
Then you would know that they produce most of their stuff, and if it's not them, it would have been Brett Gurewitz...I don't see how you can classify them in the same category as Britney Spears and N'Sync.
I'm not meaning to classify them I am saying that it is not only Britney and N'stink...NOFX is better than the other two but just look at Steve Vai, ahhh...that is a musician for you. Produces, plays, writes, records, mixes, edits, all his own stuff in his own studio the mothership. He even plays almost all his own instruments when recording. That is a perfect example of a musician. But actually in a lot of countries he is the britney spears there. Bulgaria is his place...He played for over 13,000 people there a year ago

[Blank Verse]

Oh yeah, I know all about Vai. Him and Satriani are my guitar gods. And yes, I agree that they are true musicians.

But are you gonna say that a band that writes, performs, and produces their stuff aren't true musicians? They still oversee everything and are in control...I'm not talking about NOFX in particular, although they do apply in this situation.

[bigperm]

Yeah, you must be quite in the dark about nofx. If you knew anything at all about NOFX you would not lump them with Britney Spears or 'NSYNC

I am pretty sure they produce everything they have ever put out.

Fat Mike owns a record label, and produces records on it. (http://fatwreck.com).

NOFX is not mainstream. MTV wanted to play their videos, and they said ---- MTV. They have been quite successful without them.

I suggest you download a NOFX song, and maybe get a little educated.

Go ahead and get a Pennywise, Propagandhi and a No Use for a Name song, and get schooled in punk bass.

[Blank Verse]

Yeah, it's like I said. If they didn't produce it, it was Brett Gurewitz. And that was when they were still on Epitaph.

But yeah, Fat Mike does it all. He's also the bassist for Me First and the Gimme Gimmes.

[guitarnerd]

Dude I used to like punk music, I do not want to get schooled with punk bass. I have had punk bands open for my bands in concert before. Getting schooled what a joke...

I guess I have taken it out of proportion but what I am really trying to get across is that when you are a musician, and you know theory and understand how music is constructed you will lose respect for stuff like punk and lots of other so called music. Really I don't care what you like, as long as YOU yourself like it and you could honestly tell me that if you had never heard any other music before you would pick that over it.

And punk is main stream now. I know about NOFX, I have listened to pennywise, I liked Operation Ivy, Save ferris, and a lot of other punk, oi, and ska as a matter of fact bro hym by pennywise was one of my favorite songs I have covered it once for a concert but...I made it...erm...better.

[bigperm]

I would pick punk rock out of any other music genre as my all time favorite because that is what got me into music, and that is the first kind of music that I listened to heavily. Since then, I have expanded my musical tastes to include ALL kinds of music.

You say that since you know all this fancy stuff about music, you lose respect for punk rock and music that takes less talent to make. Well, that sounds pretty damn snobby to me. I work at a high class restuarant and could eat fine dining every night if I wanted to, I know the in's and out's of a good sauce, how to compliment and garnish different foods. Does that make me lose any 'respect' for Macaroni and Cheese out of the box? No. It's commercial, cheap, a retard could cook it, but it's still one of my favorite foods.

I am a smart guy, does that mean that I don't hang out with people who don't know a thing about socio-political theory? No. I still go to NASCAR races to see stupidly overpowered cars race around a track for 300 laps, not exactly a refined activity, but it's fun and I enjoy it and that is ALL that matters.

So FU and your uppity musical tastes.

[guitarnerd]

Dude music is incomparable to all those things. There is no analogy for music. It is not a profession to me or a hobby, it is not something I do for fun...It is my heart and my soul. It is my gift in life. And you know what...A good cook may like The blue box, but the master chef would spit on it.

And why are you making it personal with the "FU" thing. I am simply stating my opinion. And most other musicians that I know. I am a snob, aren't all musicians? My Uppity tastes?
Music is profound of me, when you get tired of feeling hate and anger in music and yelling and what I would hate when my mother would say "Noise" Try feeling the spirit in music and what soul and emotion can be put into a seven minute song. Look I have tried your music why not try mine I dare you to download and listen with an open mind to these few songs...

Steve Vai For The Love of God
Steve Vai Wispering a Prayer
Dream Theatre Change of Seasons

[bigperm]

Not all musicians are snobs.

Punk isn't the only music I like. It's the kind of music that I identify with most, but I love all kinds of music.

I love Pink, The Weakerthans, Train, Sublime, Eminem, Nas, RHCP, SOAD, Phish, Emperor, Nelly, Missy Elliot and everything in between, except for jazz. I don't like jazz.

You just up and sh*t on the kind of music that I identify with, call it garbage, simple... whatever... well, I don't take that lightly. Wow, you can play the guitar. That makes you special and that make you right about everything about music... well it doesn't.

Music is your heart and soul... sure... that's great. That is most assuredly different from what Greg Graffin feels about music, he's just in some crappy punk rock band. (That's sold more records than you ever will).

[guitarnerd]

Don't make this personal alright. You have no idea who you are messing with or you wouldn't. He may sell more records...but at least I have respect from people worth having respect from. I did not say your music sucks and my posts are opinionated. Playing guitar doesn't make me special. I just seem to care more about talent and, give credit to those who deserve it.

[Nick]

Originally posted by guitarnerd
If you think flea is even near that good of a bassist then you are completly missing out, You like flea listen to billy sheehan he is just as sloppy but a million bazillion times better. Listen to Stu Hamm, He knows what bass is supposed to be. Philip Bynoe that guy is the smoothest bassist around. I could go on about them...

I was using Flea as an example. He's not the greatest, but he's damn good. Les Claypool and Jaco Pastorious (sp?) are also some great players.


Originally posted by guitarnerd
I get the feeling that you are using main stream crap as an example of music. Well in a musicians Eyes that is not music that is un-talented crap, and don't argue cause Any gifted talented musician will agree. I have lost respect for all these so called artists, that don't write, produce or pretty much have anything to do with the music they come out with.

I find it quite ironic that you're sitting here going on and on about how you despise punk, and yet you're reciting to me one of the most important values of punk -- don't conform to the mainstream.

Your holier than thou attitude makes me sick to my stomach with all this music theory bull----. Music is a form of self expression and weather you want to do some fast Matt Freeman solo, a Jaco Pastorious type song or a four chord wonder that made the Ramones famous it doesn't matter as long as you're expressing yourself the way you want to.

You act like music has to have strict guidelines when it doesn't.


Originally posted by guitarnerd
If you think Flea is some great bassist think again...

If you think Flea isn't a great bassist, you've got the IQ of a brick.


Originally posted by guitarnerd
And real players do use there fingers.

Like I said it all depends on what sound you want...

[guitarnerd]

Oh my gosh...
If music is expression then why do you listen to punk. Or a lot of music like it???? You are admiring some one who thinks they are screwed up and yells...if that is there expression then they are stupid.

Flea is good not great...listen to stu hamm that is great. There are a bazillion people better than flea.

And you know what BUll CRAP punk has become main stream... it has become just a stupid trend

[Nick]

Originally posted by guitarnerd
If music is expression then why do you listen to punk.

I listen to whatever sounds good to me.


Originally posted by guitarnerd
Or a lot of music like it???? You are admiring some one who thinks they are screwed up and yells...

Don't put words in my mouth. I never said I admired them.


Originally posted by guitarnerd
if that is there expression then they are stupid.

You can express youself by drawing a stick figure or a full landscape. You don't have to do something in a super complicated way to express yourself.


Originally posted by guitarnerd
Flea is good not great...listen to stu hamm that is great. There are a bazillion people better than flea.

Even though you're completely ----ing wrong, that's your opinion, so I'm not gonna continue to argue with you about Flea's mad skills.


Originally posted by guitarnerd
And you know what BUll CRAP punk has become main stream... it has become just a stupid trend

Maybe some pop punk like Blink182 or whatever, but there's still good stuff.


If you wanna hear some real high quality (clumps well) bull ----, go listen to a stuck-up kid who thinks he's the all knowing one when it comes to music. You'll hear truck loads of the best bull ---- around :rolleyes: .

[Gayowulf]

Originally posted by guitarnerd
Oh my gosh...
If music is expression then why do you listen to punk. Or a lot of music like it???? You are admiring some one who thinks they are screwed up and yells...if that is there expression then they are stupid.


Music is not an expression of intelligence. Music is an expression of one's feelings.

Music should be something that anyone can play or enjoy without having to know a lot about it.

[syd]

Originally posted by guitarnerd
Don't make this personal alright. You have no idea who you are messing with or you wouldn't.

:eek: You sound like...... :redface2:

[Gayowulf]

G...

[Nick]

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[guitarnerd]

How is it that punk is supposed to be unique and you are trying to be original...that is bull because since I am different/original you give me crap for it...which would equal hypocracy

[EpidemiK]

does anyone know anywhere to get free alto sax sheet music? :confused:

[Nick]

You're the one bashing people (Flea). I was never coming down on on your choices of musicians or musical genres, was I?

Giving you crap cause you're being original? Ha!

People are giving you ---- because you're being a complete and total uppity prick by acting as if all of your artists/bands are the only good ones and everyone else's choices of great bands are scum.

THAT is why the mud is flying your way, not because you're being "original".

Hmm, acting as if you are THE expert on a subject and that only you know what is good and anyone who has a different view is an ignorant dumb ---.

Is it just me or does this remind me of someone?

[Gayowulf]

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[stu]

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[guitarnerd]

You are taking what I am saying and exagerating certain less important points. I SAID that what I am saying is opinionated! I said I don't care what other people like they are my OPINIONS. I am not bashing flea I simply stated he is good not great. Dude ignorance is a killer and when you become a little less ignorant of what music is then you can talk to me but besides that go the hell away. Because I Don't care you are arguing with a musician about music, and wether or not you are a musician or whatever...you obviously don't know Theory or anything. I could think of a million and 1 anologies for this but music is music and that is all you can say. It is not a trend it is an emotion.

I have listened to punk why don't you listen to my stuff? ANd yes the only reason why people are arguing with me is because I have different opinions. I really don't want to talk to you because you will never learn you are just some lame kid who thinks he knows it all and gets defensive when some one else might know a little more. Don't respond cause i won't respond to you

[GregT]

..C..

Im all drumer, and i dont see the point of u two fighting , please we only can only live with one GC , not three :devious2:

[bigperm]

This reminds me of the Lagwagon song... Know it All.

KNOW IT ALL
look at the world in disbelief you used to follow - now you lead college has enlightened you and you are proud to be different and like different bands - different types you ain't nobody's fool it's like certain bands remind you of someone you hated 'cause they didn't wear the right clothing and there's only one true fashion a lot of the bands on the college charts are great bands until they get signed. then you hate them it's such bull---- - you used to love them you hypocrite i remember you and i listening to bands that we liked only the songs mattered to you but now you're a d.j. and preaching that hype "corporate rock sucks" "you know, college radio enlightens you" it's supposed to serve as a means to expose new bands without prejudice, but it makes no sense safe harbor for the underground 'til the alternative becomes the popular sound the bands are good 'til they make enough cash to eat food and get a pad then they're sold out and their music is cliché because talent's exclusive to bands without pay know it all - did you really listen to that song? could you ever write what you call wrong?

[Blank Verse]

I'd just like to point out that I could go on at nauseum about all the theory I've learned, I've taken composition, education, the whole deal. And I still love Bad Religion and always will. Music is an expression, no matter what form it comes out as. If one person is a better musician than the other, does that make the lesser player not worth listening to? Not a chance.

Also, I would suspect Gayowulf has some knowledge of theory and all that happy horsehit, as he is a jass bassist.

[guitarnerd]

yeah, everyone has there preferences.
Gayowulf, so do you know advanced theory. Like Scale construction unerstanding exotic scales. When I was in a jazz band it was more improvision in plain major scales and for the bassist playing walking bass utilizing 5ths...7ths and 9ths

[Nick]

Originally posted by guitarnerd
you obviously don't know Theory or anything.

I don't give a flying ---- about someone's theory about music because music is what sounds good to me and how I express myself. It's not some complicated thing that follows all of your theory guidelines bull----.


Originally posted by guitarnerd
I could think of a million and 1 anologies for this but music is music and that is all you can say. It is not a trend it is an emotion.

Ha! Who's the hipocrite now....


Originally posted by guitarnerd
Dude music is incomparable to all those things. There is no analogy for music.


Originally posted by guitarnerd
I have listened to punk why don't you listen to my stuff?

I listened to a little Stu Hamm, and I have nothing against your choices. I'd get more, but I've only got 48k


Originally posted by guitarnerd
ANd yes the only reason why people are arguing with me is because I have different opinions.

This is not about your opinions being different, it is about the way you presented them with your holier than thou attitude.


Originally posted by guitarnerd
I really don't want to talk to you because you will never learn you are just some lame kid who thinks he knows it all and gets defensive when some one else might know a little more.

I never stated that I knew it all. I never acted like I knew it all. I just said who I thought was a great player and you're the one who jumped right in and shot down this person and acted like he was ---- because it wasn't what you liked. It's not like you're THE authority on this or any other particular subject.


Originally posted by guitarnerd
Don't respond cause i won't respond to you

Oh well, I just wanted to point out all the bull---- and you being a hipocrite in that post. I don't care if you read my post or not.

[Gayowulf]

Originally posted by guitarnerd
yeah, everyone has there preferences.
Gayowulf, so do you know advanced theory. Like Scale construction unerstanding exotic scales. When I was in a jazz band it was more improvision in plain major scales and for the bassist playing walking bass utilizing 5ths...7ths and 9ths

It depends on what you mean by advanced theory and exotic scales.

I know all my majors, minors, pentatonics, some harmony stuff (ionianm dorian, lydian is all i remember, but if i brushed up it would be all good)

I learned a lot from my father, who is a jazz musician.

I wouldn't say that this knowledge helps me much though. It actually holds me back, i think. I feel that im always bound to the rules and cant try new stuff. maybe id i knew more theory it would be different, but i find it very boring to learn, let alone remember if you dont play 6 hours a day.

[guitarnerd]

Originally posted by Gayowulf


It depends on what you mean by advanced theory and exotic scales.

I know all my majors, minors, pentatonics, some harmony stuff (ionianm dorian, lydian is all i remember, but if i brushed up it would be all good)

I learned a lot from my father, who is a jazz musician.

I wouldn't say that this knowledge helps me much though. It actually holds me back, i think. I feel that im always bound to the rules and cant try new stuff. maybe id i knew more theory it would be different, but i find it very boring to learn, let alone remember if you dont play 6 hours a day.
Yeah but since you know modes and scales...now learn where to augment and diminish them so that you are breaking all the theory with theory. If you get what I am saying. Like the blues pentatonic it is just a pentotonic scale which is normally five notes with added Chromatics but what you can call it is an augmentations or diminishments. The same goes for major scales with seven notes. Another cool thing to know is that with a pentatonic minor it is actually relative to 3 major keys instead of one. That way you can play in the same key in three different keys. I don't know I think of these theories and wonder if anyone will ever get what I am saying.
If you can't break the rules because you know theory. Break theory with theory