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trenzterra
June 5th, 2002, 21:30
I think it's my LAN port problem, when I just start my computer, and try to connect to the internet, my whole computer hangs for two minutes.


This happens on WinXP Home.

Because of this, I upgraded back to ME.

My modem is compatible with Windows XP.

And when I disable the LAN port, it works properly.

It's Intel 8255x-based PCI Ethernet adaptor.

Is there any way to solve this in XP?

Another thing, if I reinstall Windows XP, will it allow me to activate Windows XP agian or I have to buy another XP copy?


Please help me before I upgrade back to Windows XP because it's tempting and I spent $180 SGD on it.

Dean
June 5th, 2002, 22:23
Try unpluging the cable when starting up

trenzterra
June 5th, 2002, 22:30
Originally posted by Phyxisus
Try unpluging the cable when starting up I won't want to do that everytime I boot up. Is there an updated driver or something? Mines 4.90.3000.

And if I want to try it out I have to upgrade to Windows XP and try it. If it's a sure-works then i will upgrade.

guitarnerd
June 6th, 2002, 03:03
First get all the updates, and no it is no bug, here is why and how to fix it...

When windows starts up in normal operating systems besides XP it loads all the drivers and everything then it starts. But XP is different it loads the GUI before it is actually finished loading the rest of the drivers etc into the ram therefore certain things won't work.

How to avoid:
When you start up your computer, 1. Make sure you have it to where you log in 2. Install NWlink in windows components. 3. When you start up wait about 30 seconds at the user log in. That way it will take the time to load the drivers before the GUI

trenzterra
June 6th, 2002, 05:06
Originally posted by guitarnerd
First get all the updates, and no it is no bug, here is why and how to fix it...

When windows starts up in normal operating systems besides XP it loads all the drivers and everything then it starts. But XP is different it loads the GUI before it is actually finished loading the rest of the drivers etc into the ram therefore certain things won't work.

How to avoid:
When you start up your computer, 1. Make sure you have it to where you log in 2. Install NWlink in windows components. 3. When you start up wait about 30 seconds at the user log in. That way it will take the time to load the drivers before the GUI but I don;'t want to wait.

After two minutes the computer works fine.

trenzterra
June 6th, 2002, 05:24
another thing: The connect-to dialog does not appear when I'm not using IE or connecting to a US IRC server in mIRC. Why does this happen?

guitarnerd
June 6th, 2002, 05:45
You have to be patient, ME will take longer to start than XP, XP just shows the GUI first. YEt everything may not be running yet. It wouldn't even be 2 minutes if you waited

Robert
June 6th, 2002, 06:22
Does Home Edition even have an Windows Update link?

Did you go to Intels website and try to get the drivers?

trenzterra
June 6th, 2002, 06:58
Originally posted by guitarnerd
You have to be patient, ME will take longer to start than XP, XP just shows the GUI first. YEt everything may not be running yet. It wouldn't even be 2 minutes if you waited Intel doesn't have a driver for my network card.

ME loads faster than XP.

When I download the thing you want me to use, will it run faster?

And will XP allow me to run the upgrade CD again?
and answer my question above about connect to dialog not appearing.

Christopher
June 6th, 2002, 07:54
XP will install again, but you MIGHT need to call their toll free phone line and get a new installation key. Thats what I had to do.

Giancarlo
June 6th, 2002, 08:04
You know 2000 is very efficient when it comes to networking/ethernet.... you should switch to Windows 2000 PRO if you have the money.

It sounds like you could have a possible IRQ conflict.

trenzterra
June 6th, 2002, 08:10
Originally posted by Christopher
XP will install again, but you MIGHT need to call their toll free phone line and get a new installation key. Thats what I had to do. Actually I restored a few times with no problems. And does the Connect To dialog appears for you?

And Giancarlo, I said above that I don't want to waste my $180. How do I solve IRQ conflicts?

Giancarlo
June 6th, 2002, 08:15
Well Windows 2000 PRO didn't cost me $180. Newegg sells it at $140.

You might have cards the are on the same IRQs. Try switching the card throughout different avaliable slots on the motherboard and see what happens.

trenzterra
June 6th, 2002, 08:32
Originally posted by Giancarlo
Well Windows 2000 PRO didn't cost me $180. Newegg sells it at $140.

You might have cards the are on the same IRQs. Try switching the card throughout different avaliable slots on the motherboard and see what happens. How do I change them? Please answer me quickly because I'm going to XP soon.

trenzterra
June 6th, 2002, 08:33
Originally posted by Giancarlo
Well Windows 2000 PRO didn't cost me $180. Newegg sells it at $140.

You might have cards the are on the same IRQs. Try switching the card throughout different avaliable slots on the motherboard and see what happens. I already bought xp so I don't want to waste it. I haven't touched it for around 7 months.

I think you misunderstood my post

Giancarlo
June 6th, 2002, 08:34
Originally posted by trenzterra
How do I change them? Please answer me quickly because I'm going to XP soon.

Okay... remove the card from the current PCI slot... and switch it to a different PCI slot. This requires opening up the case.

trenzterra
June 6th, 2002, 08:37
Originally posted by Giancarlo


Okay... remove the card from the current PCI slot... and switch it to a different PCI slot. This requires opening up the case. It's a laptop so I can't do it.

My friend switched it over and it worked fine on XP.

How do I check whether there is a conflict?

Giancarlo
June 6th, 2002, 08:39
Damn.... you should of told me that... go ahead with XP...

I am not quite sure how you check... usually it gives you an error or doesn't load for a long time, if it happens you know you have an IRQ error. If it doesn't have those problems you most likely don't have an IRQ error.

trenzterra
June 6th, 2002, 08:40
Originally posted by Giancarlo
Damn.... you should of told me that... go ahead with XP...

I am not quite sure how you check... usually it gives you an error or doesn't load for a long time, if it happens you know you have an IRQ error. If it doesn't have those problems you most likely don't have an IRQ error. What could be conflicting with it? I remember last time I checked in Device Manager and they said "No Conflicts"

Giancarlo
June 6th, 2002, 08:45
Well that probably be a sign it is okay I think...

trenzterra
June 6th, 2002, 08:46
Originally posted by Giancarlo
Well that probably be a sign it is okay I think... I hope so. It does not happen in ME. Maybe I'll do what guitarnerd suggested.


And is there anything I should take caution of or any way to backup my whole computer before I upgrade?

Giancarlo
June 6th, 2002, 08:48
I suggest saving important files before upgrading.... something could happen which could force you to format....

trenzterra
June 6th, 2002, 08:52
Originally posted by Giancarlo
I suggest saving important files before upgrading.... something could happen which could force you to format.... I hope nothing happens. I uploaded my mIRC script and my html/graphix files.


Any other stuff to caution?

trenzterra
June 6th, 2002, 09:14
And I saw my ethernet adapter in the hardware compatibility list and should work on xp..

trenzterra
June 6th, 2002, 11:09
I'm on XP now and everything works fine so far.

But they say Password incorrect for my broadband account.

This is an ISP problem right?

Because it worked the first time I logged in but not the second.

My ISP does that sometimes...

guitarnerd
June 6th, 2002, 15:39
Sounds like an ISP problem but if you had it saved re-type it. 2000 and XP have this thing where if your password is under a certain amount of characters and you have it saved, it will make it look like it is 15 characters or something so that may have messed with it somehow

trenzterra
June 6th, 2002, 20:39
well it works now.


What's the point of having those dots show up each time when their messed.

guitarnerd
June 6th, 2002, 20:50
If your password was only 4 characters and someone could see that it would be easy to crack

trenzterra
June 6th, 2002, 20:51
Now I have a problem:

Why when i run outlook express it asks for my office 2k cd?

guitarnerd
June 6th, 2002, 20:54
Because it probably has to install some extra stuff since the computer is now completly different. If you don't have it run it in a compatibilty later, and before anything install updates. There is a big SMTP error in XP that needs to be fixed

trenzterra
June 6th, 2002, 20:55
Originally posted by guitarnerd
Because it probably has to install some extra stuff since the computer is now completly different. If you don't have it run it in a compatibilty later, and before anything install updates. There is a big SMTP error in XP that needs to be fixed oh well. That means I would need the Office 2000 cd? I have to wait tonight for it :(

trenzterra
June 6th, 2002, 21:10
Any way of restoring it without the office2k cd?

guitarnerd
June 7th, 2002, 00:09
Try running it in a compatibilty layer

Right click on a short cut>properties>compatibility>WinME since that was your previous OS, but I am not sure if that will work

trenzterra
June 7th, 2002, 00:45
Originally posted by guitarnerd
Try running it in a compatibilty layer

Right click on a short cut>properties>compatibility>WinME since that was your previous OS, but I am not sure if that will work it will say that i cannot use compatibility on this... I'll wait until tonight :(

You sure putting in the CD will work?

guitarnerd
June 7th, 2002, 02:44
Why wouldn't it? I can't Guaruntee but Chances are likely

trenzterra
June 7th, 2002, 02:46
Originally posted by guitarnerd
Why wouldn't it? I can't Guaruntee but Chances are likely i mean that error won't show up everytime I start it?

[ADD]It seems that the error appears when i compose an email because my contacts were lost.

trenzterra
June 7th, 2002, 20:34
Originally posted by guitarnerd


How to avoid:
When you start up your computer, 1. Make sure you have it to where you log in 2. Install NWlink in windows components. 3. When you start up wait about 30 seconds at the user log in. That way it will take the time to load the drivers before the GUI Where do i find this NWlink thingy?

guitarnerd
June 7th, 2002, 20:38
Go to

Start>settings>control panel>add remove programs>add windows components and add ALL the networking stuff

Then Go to my connections>view network connections>right click on any NIC card>Properties>and Install all the NWlink components It will make your puter start differently