Fifa WorldCup 2002 results [Take 2]

[Owen]

WOW! :shocked2:

I should have known this was going to happen. US went down into bunker mode against Korea and got tied. Italy did the same and this game is tied going to golden goal. If Korea advances, I am willing to bet you, no one plays defensive against Korea, especially with only a 1 goal lead.

I am pulling for Korea though, although I do like Italy(and predicted them to get to the round of 4).

[Owen]

WOW!!!!!!!!

:shocked:

Amazing win for Korea when it looked like Italy was going to take it away in the last minutes of regulation. Korea deserved that win.

I will say, I don't think the officiating was superb(little bit more helpful for Korea, such as that 2nd yellow for that "fall"), but Korea was the best team, at least midway into second half they became better(didnt get a chance to see much of the 1st).

I betcha no one plays fall back defense against Korea now.

[ashben]

Some may same .. what an upset? But I think Korea deserved to win after the amazing fight they've given the Italians. Imagine, both the goals came in the final minutes of each round. Now, Korea will be playing Spain and looking at how things are going I think Spain must (be) consider(ing) Korea a very strong opponent.

Next match on Friday, I guess.

[trenzterra]

I watched worldcup on some indonesian channel and reception is poor!

Anyway it's surprising Korea won at the last part.

[Ashed]

That was an awesome match. Probably one of the best matches in this World Cup! Korea never gave up and they were rewarded with the equalizer and also the winning goal. They fought really hard to grab the win, credits to them. If they carry the momentum in the next round, we shall be seeing another good, competitive match. :D

[murat]

japan, costa rica, china... now senegel !
yildiray bastürk and hasan sas are best players of the worldcup

[nitroboy]

Originally posted by GRiN
I don't think it was possible for him to head the ball over a standing defender without a push on the back...
it's about the game Brazil-Belgium and Wilmots' goal

I think you need to buy a pair of glasses

[spork]

hahaha, the italians are seriously saying that the korea match was fixed by fifa... :D

[Mikki00]

I think the Italian eventually will get over it, I believe that they shouldn't disregard their oponent and think it will be a cinch. Because that is where they lose, underestimated their oponent. I think they want to win soo bad that make them play dirty more than they was with any other game. I think the S. Korea team deserved it, they tried really hard and whoever thought they could score a ties at the last 4 minutes. And then when on to score at the extra 30 min. Quarter final will be England Vs. Brazil, Senegal vs. Turkey, USA vs. Germany, and S. Korea vs. Spain. So who here think who will won over who?

[cheatpark]

I think that the final will either be:

England vs. Germany OR Germany vs. Brazil

[conkermaniac]

Originally posted by Mikki00
I think the Italian eventually will get over it, I believe that they shouldn't disregard their oponent and think it will be a cinch. Because that is where they lose, underestimated their oponent. I think they want to win soo bad that make them play dirty more than they was with any other game. I think the S. Korea team deserved it, they tried really hard and whoever thought they could score a ties at the last 4 minutes. And then when on to score at the extra 30 min. Quarter final will be England Vs. Brazil, Senegal vs. Turkey, USA vs. Germany, and S. Korea vs. Spain. So who here think who will won over who?

Brazil over England
Senegal over Turkey
USA over Germany
Spain over S. Korea

[DCI]

Originally posted by conkermaniac


Brazil over England
Senegal over Turkey
USA over Germany
Spain over S. Korea


HHAHAHA.. USA OVER GERMANY??

How foolish..

I doubt that..

[murat]

they are all very good teams, some suprised, some are brilliant, so i cant promise who will win
i just hope turkey will :biggrin2:

[Ashed]

Originally posted by DCI
HHAHAHA.. USA OVER GERMANY??

How foolish..

I doubt that..

That's not foolish. How many upsets have their been in this World Cup?

[DCI]

Oh you got a point now.

[puggy106]

England Vs Brazil

Who do you think will win? ;)

[murat]

there is already a other worldcaup thread

[nitroboy]

england

[spork]

if germany plays the way they played against paraguay it would surprise me if they beat USA... all the remaining teams could certainly beat germany if they don´t play better than that...

[Mikki00]

Here is my guess for the game

Brazil over England (:rolleyes: Let said I have a hunch, somehow Brazil once again will prove their skill)
Senegal over Turkey (Tough, they seem like well match for each other, so who win wouldn't matter)
Germany over USA (al though, I like it to be USA but I think USA play is a lil' too loosely for German who much bigger and better in experience but you might never know.)
S. Korea over Spain (I believe S. Korea can overcome this game, why? Because they have suprise me so many time in the past. And they do beat Porturgal who on the list rate higher than Spain. So yeah, I wouldn't be surprise if S. Korea won if they using the same determination they used when they battle with Italy and Portugal)

But we'll see how all the battle came out, no thing is a sure thing.

[trenzterra]

GO ENGLAND!

[DCI]

Brazil

[chicos]

brazil will win.

england has too many crap players (scholes when he's in midfield, and nicky butt)

meanwhile brazil isn't quite as good as they've been in the past. they used to have players who were much better than the players in the rest of the world. oh well, times are changing

brazil by 1.

[allanh]

Brazil will win.


Their offence is greatest by far in the world.

Although there are defensive lapses in the brazilian line-up, I am sure their coach will adjust that.

[Mikki00]

My only question is that, how come Brazil play so well in this year world cup, and yet lose to France in the final of 1998? And oh man! If no one realize it already France this year was so badly that they make lil' kid soccer game actually lo_ok like professional. Most of the person said the World Cup 1988 was "fixed", I just hope Brazil will play there best this year, and not actually give up another "fixed" World Cup.

So for those fan of England who know chances are England can won over Brazil, if they willing to pay enough. :rolleyes:

[Ashed]

Wasn't Ronaldo sick in the game against France in 98?
Conspiracy? (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/soccer/world/events/1998/worldcup/news/1998/07/15/ronaldo_hotel/) :D

Anyway, hopefully Brazil will win. There's been too much hype over this England squad and their performance...

[nitroboy]

Originally posted by GRiN
Wasn't Ronaldo sick in the game against France in 98?
he's an attacker, and Brazil had 3 goals against

[Ashed]

Whoever scores first in a match has quite a lot of advantage. The winning team will play with less pressure, the opposite for the losing team.

[Archbob]

Mt bet for the final game is Germany Beats Brazil 2-1.

[ashben]

Did you guys hear this: the Korean player who scored the winning goal (in the Korea vs Italy match) has been dismissed from the club he plays for. The club apparently is Italian and they say that he has brought disgrace to Italy after scoring the goal. Wonder who one should support: his country or his Italian club :D

Totally rediculous. On a brighter note: the same player has been honoured by Korean Airlines with free air travel to anywhere for the next 4 years.

[spork]

yep, apparently it wasn´t enough for the italians to make fools of themselves on the football field, they have to show the world what sour losers they are too... :confused2

as for the quarterfinals they´re looking interesting...

england-brazil 1-0

the most interesting game, neither of the teams have impressed me so far... brazil was pretty lousy in the belgium match, they seemed slow and unmotivated or just lazy, i´m not really sure... but yet they won by 2-0, it shows ronaldo, rivaldo and ronaldinho can score even if the rest of the team seems half asleep...
england beat denmark by 3-0 but i think it was coincidence (or maybe just dumb luck) that they actually found the net in that match... i think england will win 1-0 due to a better defense...

germany-usa 1-3 :)

germany had one attack against paraguay where a few of them actually appeared to be football players and not 80 year old men looking for their wheelchairs, they scored on that attack and won because paraguay had failed to take advantage of their opportunities... usa surprised me by beating mexico, i think they at least have a good chance...

senegal-turkey 2-0

turkey has basically done what they had to, nothing more, senegal has gotten way further than anyone expected and i think they´ll reach semifinals at least (hopefully the final)

spain-korea 2-2 (2-3)

spain has been lucky to get this far, i don´t think they´ll get any further... i think it will be a pretty even match with quite a lot of opportunities for both teams but korea will win on a golden goal...

in the semifinals senegal will beat england of course, and korea will beat usa and we´ll end up with senegal-korea in the final... :D

[hohoho]

Originally posted by spork
germany-usa 1-3 :)
i think germany will win 2-0.
The game vs. paraguay wasn't that good, but they simply had a bad day

[murat]

go türkiye! destroy senegal

[98125]

Go England

Mullin

[chicos]

Originally posted by GRiN
Wasn't Ronaldo sick in the game against France in 98?
Conspiracy? (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/soccer/world/events/1998/worldcup/news/1998/07/15/ronaldo_hotel/) :D

Anyway, hopefully Brazil will win. There's been too much hype over this England squad and their performance...

i remember there being quite a few different versions of the ronaldo fit / food poisoning / etc story.

i reckon they caught him on drugs and FIFA forced him not to play or else he'd be exposed.

[cheatpark]

In the England vs. Brazil match so far it's 1 - 1. Hopefully England can score again in the second half. :D

[Jan]

Yeah I just checked the score, could be a tight game! I don't have this one live, but tonights game will be :)

[Jan]

Brazil in the lead 2:1 :eek:

[rob.]

They won!

[ashben]

What a winning goal that was from Ronaldino .. out-of-this-world and right in the goal post! Amazing stuff. Bad how Ronaldino was give a red card and sent off later.

Now, Brazil will play the winner of Turkey vs Senegal in the semis.

[Jan]

The way predictions are going, sorta doesn't pay to put your money on any teams. Some guy had 200 thousand and something on England for a win:eek:

Based on the previous upsets, it is likely USA will win tonight.


20 pages of (near) on topic posts - is this a record? :whatthe:

[Owen]

Originally posted by Jan
20 pages of (near) on topic posts - is this a record? :whatthe:

My foot hurts :D :p

[Ashed]

Brazil did it with only 10 men! Does this prove that England still has problems with their offence? :)
BTW, didn't Giancarlo say Brazil wouldn't make it further than the quarters? :D

[spork]

i really thought england would win that match, until it actually started that is, brazil was by far the better team... the referee was a walking disaster but i´ve gotten used to that in this world cup...

didn´t it look like ronaldinho missed (?) that freekick? i don´t think he was going for the goal...

england made their worst game in this world cup, there was no speed, no anything... it didn´t look like they wanted to win...

[Blank Verse]

what was up with that red card against ronaldinho? That was a pretty bad call. I feel pretty bad for David Seaman after ronaldinho scored that goal. He's going to take a lot of heat for that.

[Archbob]

That Red Card should have been a Yellow Card at most. Brazil is a much stronger team than England. The English offense is lacking. I'm going to watch USA-Germany now.

[murat]

usa - germany are playing for 2 minutes now, i would say usa is better yet

[murat]

30 minutes played and usa is still better :eek:

[murat]

i fu cking hate this :angry2:
usa was better, but germany is leading :mad:

[trenzterra]

DAMN USA IS LOSING!!!!


I bet $10 on USA!

[adizlaja]

USA lost 1-0

LOL :)

[ashben]

USA did give a good fight. But the German goalkeeper was there like a rock.

[spork]

Originally posted by trenzterra
DAMN USA IS LOSING!!!!


I bet $10 on USA!

wow! 10 whole bucks... no new ferrari for you then... :rolleyes:

too bad USA lost, they were the better team large portions of the game, the last 20 minutes germany had them pretty much under control though...

[trenzterra]

I still getting new laptop tomorrow ;)


Anyway USA lost, I hope Korea wins tomorrow.

[spork]

of course korea will win... how else could senegal play korea in the final later... ;)

[98125]

Watched England in school this morning
SEAMEN IS S*** (sorry if you don't think so) but we could have got through if he stayed on his line!

Mullin

[ashben]

Originally posted by 98125
SEAMEN IS S*** (sorry if you don't think so) but we could have got through if he stayed on his line!

I disagree. Seamen was at the correct position. It's just that the direct shot totally took him (just like everybody else watching the ball) by surprise. It was the most unexpected of free kicks and I doubt if anybody else in his place would as well have been able to get a hand on it.

[hohoho]

Originally posted by ashben
USA did give a good fight. But the German goalkeeper was there like a rock.
yeah, Oliver Kahn ( german goalkeeper ) is REALLY good :D
he saved germany from losing against paraguay lol

[Ashed]

Was the Ronaldinho free-kick intended? I mean it was so perfectly placed. :)

I agree that Kahn is definitely one of the best (if not the best) goalkeepers in the world today. His reading of the game is excellent, he always knows when to come out to break plays.

[Mikki00]

I don't think Ronaldinho kick was intended, because he was just as much as surprise as anybody else to see it when it. But it is a perfect goal, like one in a million chance. I also don't think he deserved a red card, a yellow card at the max but not the red card, now he can't even play the final because of that red card.

Anyways USA did gave a good fight, but just as I suspected Germany does have a strong hold. If it wasn't for their strong hold, USA was easily going to tie during the game. But I still cheer for USA, maybe the next World Cup they will improve for the better.

[adizlaja]

I think that Ronaldinho shot that ball at the goal on purpose. As soon as he put the ball on the ground, he looked up, and shot the ball right at the goal. He saw Seaman off his line and made the most out of it.

Also, Brazilians know what they are doing and if he was going to cross is, I bet he would have done that and not hit a perfect shot that was at least ten yards away from his teammates.

Another thing, Mikki00, you said that he didn't mean to do that because he was surprised about what had happened. Now think about that for a minute. If you would have made that shot, and taken the lead against England, would you not be as surprised as him?

[adizlaja]

BTW, doesn't a red mean that you only sit out for one game? He will miss the semi-final, but not the final if they advance from what I know.

[trenzterra]

Is he the guy who pushed someone down?

[ashben]

Originally posted by adizlaja
BTW, doesn't a red mean that you only sit out for one game? He will miss the semi-final, but not the final if they advance from what I know.

A red card or two yellow cards and the player will have to miss the next one match. Ronaldinho will be back for the finals :D

BTW, I heard Raul won't be playing the QF today.

[Mikki00]

adizlaja Nope the red card doesn't mean he will sit out for one game but two, count them 2 game. That mean no more semifinal, and no more final for him. How suck is that! With him score a hit goal like that and doesn't got to play 'til the end? What a pity.

And trenzterra, I'm not sure if he push someone, but all I know is they said his knuckle jam the England guy in the jaw, and his leg made the England guy trip. Well I see it over and over, and I still couldn't see his knuckle hit the jaw, however I did see the other guy trip, but seriously that not that serious and I notice it was when Ronaldinho about to fall that his foot caught with the England guy. And I don't think that deserved a red card, I feel the guy who gave the red card must be really bored at that time.

[ashben]

REMARKABLE ... Korea beat Spain in a nail-biting penalty shootout! Now Korea will play Germany in the semis.

[Blank Verse]

Man, Germany is the only team that's living up to my at the time seemingly no brainer predictions,

[ashben]

Originally posted by ashben
Spain is undoubtedly a great team. Raul is very impressive.

But their past record suggests that they tend to tire themselves once they reach the final rounds of the tournament.

Got that right!

[ashben]

Originally posted by ashben
I'm predicting a Brazil vs Spain final .. not sure how long will that last though .. I'm pretty bad at this prediction stuff :D

Got that wrong :classic2:

[Blank Verse]

Heh Heh, well, I was predicting a Germany Sweden final. then I realised that couldn't happen even if Sweden did advance.

[Jan]

Incredible so many *favourites* have been knocked out of this World Cup!

Dare I say it.......Ahem, better not :rolleyes:









Spain LOST THE GAME! :biggrin2:

[spork]

well, at least i picked the right winner in this quarter final, that would be the first so far... though i thought there would be many goals, couldn´t have been more wrong about that (not counting penalties that is)...

still waiting for that korea-senegal final... :)

i think there will be quite a lot of -----ing about the referees in spain after this, and they won´t be completely wrong...

[Blank Verse]

There's been a lot -----ing about refing after every game. But it's been justified with all the bonehead calls that they have been giving.

Can't use that as an excuse though

[Jan]

Why do the losers always blame the refs anyway? Can't they look back on their game plan, were they too cocky? Didn't think they would be defeated? Why not just plan ahead for the next world cup and IMPROVE their game?

[Ashed]

Awesome penalty shoot-out. I thought the Koreans were gonna lose since they should have less experience at things like this. Joaquin shot it pretty bad, though, and that caused them the match. :o

It feels nice to see an Asian team in the World Cup semi-finals!

Anyway, what's the deal with Ronaldinho missing the next two matches? I thought a red card will only get him suspended for a game. Damn, Brazil should be less effective offensively now. :mad:

[Ashed]

Originally posted by Jan
Why do the losers always blame the refs anyway? Can't they look back on their game plan, were they too cocky? Didn't think they would be defeated? Why not just plan ahead for the next world cup and IMPROVE their game?

Losers always blame the refs because they've got no one else to blame. Of course, no one wants to blame themselves. It was mostly their fault they couldn't score goals against their opponent... :o

[Blank Verse]

He's not missing the next two. He missed the rest of that game and he's missing the semis. If they win, he's there for the finals.

Unless I missed something...

[Mikki00]

I agree with Jan, that loser mostly end up blaming the ref. And was because they're too cocky to think they couldn't be beat. But Grin was right about loser blaming the ref, because they got no one else to blame. lol

And Blank Verse, when it said Ronaldinho will force to miss two games that mean he will miss the two next games. The first game, Brazil against Sen. or Turk. whoever win that game. And the second which is the final, Brazil against S. Korea or Germany. Now isn't that two games he missed already? So practically he can't play for Brazil at the end. There is no such thing as he missing the semis, because the semis only got one game Brazil play in.

Anyways, I'm pretty excited, since S. Korea has made it in. The team I pick from waay back, when most said they couldn't even made it in quarterfinal. :D But chances are Brazil will won the World Cup. Then again, nobody will know, because this World Cup has everybody prediction upside down.

[Ashed]

Originally posted by Mikki00
And Blank Verse, when it said Ronaldinho will force to miss two games that mean he will miss the two next games. The first game, Brazil against Sen. or Turk. whoever win that game. And the second which is the final, Brazil against S. Korea or Germany. Now isn't that two games he missed already? So practically he can't play for Brazil at the end. There is no such thing as he missing the semis, because the semis only got one game Brazil play in.

Where did you hear/read that from? Certainly a red card means the player will miss the next match, in this case Brazil's semi-final match. :confused:

[Mikki00]

*Gasp* Maybe because I had watch soccer and played soccer enough to know that? :rolleyes: Every red card mean that a player will get kick out of two games, regardless. Otherwise, people wouldn't be in fear of a red card so much. And no one would cuss at the ref. everytime they recieved a red card.
:devious2:

[Jan]

FINALLY...........Turkey wins! What a boring game :confused:

[hohoho]

a final game germany-turkey would be great :D

[ashben]

Originally posted by Mikki00
*Gasp* Maybe because I had watch soccer and played soccer enough to know that? :rolleyes: Every red card mean that a player will get kick out of two games, regardless. Otherwise, people wouldn't be in fear of a red card so much. And no one would cuss at the ref. everytime they recieved a red card.
:devious2:

Partly true. A red card does mean the player misses two games but that's including the game currently being played. So technically Ronaldhino will miss the semis but he'll be back for the finals.

[conkermaniac]

Originally posted by Jan
Why do the losers always blame the refs anyway? Can't they look back on their game plan, were they too cocky? Didn't think they would be defeated? Why not just plan ahead for the next world cup and IMPROVE their game?

Well, the Italians were sore losers. Simple as that. :(

I hate the Spaniards, but still, I feel sorry for them. The referees (especially those guys on the sides; I call them referees too) were TERRIBLE. Spain made two goals. Both of them should have counted. If the referees were playing fairly, Spain would have won without penalty kicks, and without the Golden Goal period. I would bet the Koreans bribed the refs with money. ;)

[Ashed]

Originally posted by ashben
Partly true. A red card does mean the player misses two games but that's including the game currently being played. So technically Ronaldhino will miss the semis but he'll be back for the finals.

Yeah, that's what I thought, too. :)

[spork]

Originally posted by conkermaniac


Well, the Italians were sore losers. Simple as that. :(

I hate the Spaniards, but still, I feel sorry for them. The referees (especially those guys on the sides; I call them referees too) were TERRIBLE. Spain made two goals. Both of them should have counted. If the referees were playing fairly, Spain would have won without penalty kicks, and without the Golden Goal period. I would bet the Koreans bribed the refs with money. ;)

well, i think the referee was right on that first goal, but clearly on the second one the assisting referee screwed up big time, that should take away his rights to ref fifa matches for several years if theres any justice in this world... however i don´t think that would have resulted in a goal if the ref hadn´t blown the whistle... what really made me feel sorry for spain was when someone (i forgot who) got completely free with the ball close to koreas goal and that stupid ---- (that was the nicest thing i could think of that was yet descriptive of his character) on the sideline raised his little flag when the spaniard was clearly not off-side...

oh well, thats how this world cup will be remembered, lots of surprised and lots of slow, blind and deaf referees... :confused2

[Mikki00]

Partly true. A red card does mean the player misses two games but that's including the game currently being played. So technically Ronaldhino will miss the semis but he'll be back for the finals.

It clearly said, that you guys haven't watch FIFA world club enough to know that if a players get two yellow card in different games, he will result in being kicked out for one game. But here Ronaldinho got right away the red card in a games, that mean he will and can't play for two games. Don't believe me? Go check your source on the official rules of FIFA in fifa.com.

[murat]

what did i say ?
go back to africa senegal!
brazil is next

[murat]

Originally posted by mitja
a final game germany-turkey would be great :D
turkey yes, but not sure about germany

[Blank Verse]

Are you kidding? Germany is the only team that has lived up to expectations. I see no reason why that would change now.

[murat]

germany played ---- against ireland, usa, paraguay, cameroon
they only one with luck and Oliver Kahn
and south korea is pretty good

[Blank Verse]

Originally posted by murat
germany played ---- against ireland, usa, paraguay, cameroon


and yet, look where they are...:rolleyes:

[murat]

what if oliver kahn has a bad day ?

[adizlaja]

Germany will win this world cup... like i said a million times!

[murat]

what if oliver kahn has a bad day ?

[Mikki00]

It's hard to picture Germany with the World Cup, more likely the world cup has picture of Brazil all over it. Again, unless it was another "rigged" game like in '98, otherwise hard to even said Germany will made it into the final with Brazil. Since, more than likely I believe S. Korea and whoop Germany fairly well, like they did with Portugal, Italy, and Spain. S. Korea this year have very great potential of making into the final with Brazil, and they're very deserving to they had proven themselves along the way as anybody has seen.

[adizlaja]

Originally posted by murat
what if oliver kahn has a bad day ?

What if Germany "again" scores a goal and then played defense for the whole time and doesn't let the Koreans break them down?

Germans are not easy to breake down, especially when Korea isn't such a great finishing team.

[trenzterra]

Originally posted by Mikki00
*Gasp* Maybe because I had watch soccer and played soccer enough to know that? :rolleyes: Every red card mean that a player will get kick out of two games, regardless. Otherwise, people wouldn't be in fear of a red card so much. And no one would cuss at the ref. everytime they recieved a red card.
:devious2: i remember the guy saying on tv that he would be out in the brazil-england game and the semi-finals only.


I remember the guy on saying on tv that the jaw something something so he must have been that one i guess.

[ashben]

Originally posted by Mikki00


It clearly said, that you guys haven't watch FIFA world club enough to know that if a players get two yellow card in different games, he will result in being kicked out for one game. But here Ronaldinho got right away the red card in a games, that mean he will and can't play for two games. Don't believe me? Go check your source on the official rules of FIFA in fifa.com.

I'm not questioning your knowledge of the game but aparently you are wrong. Go checkout: http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/en/020623/1/17me.html

[Blank Verse]

I could have told you that. I reffed soccer for 6 years, and took courses for it every year. It's easy to get the facts misconstrued and think that he gets two games, when it really means the game he got sent off in and the next game.

[spork]

Originally posted by Blank Verse


and yet, look where they are...:rolleyes:

exacly, they haven´t lived up to the expectations... they´ve just gotten through anyway... thats a strenght in itself...

germany might very well beat korea though, spain neutralized their offense pretty much completely...

[Blank Verse]

Originally posted by spork


exacly, they haven´t lived up to the expectations... they´ve just gotten through anyway... thats a strenght in itself...

germany might very well beat korea though, spain neutralized their offense pretty much completely...

They've been expected to win. They've been winning. How is that not lving up to expectations. They may not have been playing their best, but they found ways to win when it mattered most. That's the sign of a strong team.

[hohoho]

Originally posted by adizlaja
Germany will win this world cup... like i said a million times!
that's what i say, too :D

[ashben]

I'm with Brazil! ;)

Also, it's strange how Brazil and Germany have never played against each other in a World Cup Final in the history of the game. This may well be a ground breaker.

[spork]

Originally posted by Blank Verse


They've been expected to win. They've been winning. How is that not lving up to expectations. They may not have been playing their best, but they found ways to win when it mattered most. That's the sign of a strong team.

they´ve been expected to play good football, they haven´t... that they have gotten this far despite that is either a sign of strenght, luck or lack of resistance...

[Jan]

Germany lead 1:0

[Jan]

Korea is out :crysad: I really thought they would go further after beating the *favourites*

[ashben]

So eventually a South-American vs European Final on the way ;)

Anyways, Korea played very well as a team. Hope to see them as an even stronger lot in Germany 2006!

[hohoho]

GO GO GO GERMANY :D
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEAH germany will win

[Blank Verse]

Originally posted by spork


they´ve been expected to play good football, they haven´t... that they have gotten this far despite that is either a sign of strenght, luck or lack of resistance...

You were saying? :D

[spork]

Originally posted by Blank Verse


You were saying? :D

hehe, that they´ve been playing bad football... they were pretty good today though... :)

korea was better today than they were in their previous 2 games too...

[adizlaja]

I don't think they were. Korea's offense sucks. They can't score and what makes you think they were better? Because they held the ball and didn't do anything when they got to the last third of the field?

Germany was a lot more dangerous and I thought dominated the game. The had better opportunities too I think. Germany deserved to win, and Koreo would not have scored on Germany's defense if they played another 60 minutes.

[trenzterra]

German's attacking skills are good. Their goalkeeper is number 1 too.

[ashben]

And it's out .. Brazil will meet Germany in the Finals of the Football World Cup 2002 on Sunday. Turkey will play Korea on Saturday to compete for the third position.

[spork]

Originally posted by adizlaja
I don't think they were. Korea's offense sucks. They can't score and what makes you think they were better? Because they held the ball and didn't do anything when they got to the last third of the field?

they at least tried to get around germany´s defense, against italy and spain they pretty much ran into a wall over and over again expecting the wall to cave... there was definitely an improvement from their last game against spain...

brazil-germany in the final, should be interesting...

[trenzterra]

Ahh and Korea will play Germany

[thewitt]

Originally posted by Mikki00
*Gasp* Maybe because I had watch soccer and played soccer enough to know that? :rolleyes: Every red card mean that a player will get kick out of two games, regardless. Otherwise, people wouldn't be in fear of a red card so much. And no one would cuss at the ref. everytime they recieved a red card.
:devious2:
Don't you feel really silly now for having posted this and so emphatically instisted that you were right the the rest of us were wrong because we obviously had not watched enough soccer, played the game, coached, reffereed, etc - when we said that Ronaldinho would return for the final :rolleyes:

Brazil should easily roll over Germany in this one. Neither team is playing on the top of their game, but Germany has not been impressive in their last few games at all - and their "win by one" tactic is not likely to work over Brazil.

-t

[AussieE]

Noooohh... don't say that.. *L* I'm going for Germany..

[murat]

too bad that we lost :crysad:
i hope we will beat korea tomorow

oh, and brazil will beat germany 3-0
germany didnt play with a good team yet, and the only game they played good was againt saudi arabia

[The Red Guy]

I betted for Brazil +1/2 so Brazil ought to win 1+. I gues 2-0.
Turkey is level | +1/2 so they should win 2-0. But South Korea should be proud of being better than France and co.

[trenzterra]

Now that the referee has been changed, Turkey should win. I heard that the Italy-Korea referee has been shot dead!

[The Red Guy]

The Italian mafia head promised it.

[Jan]

Whoa! Turkey got a goal in the first 15 seconds of the game!!!!! :eek:

[Akalon]

Now its even, amazing match.... :chinese2:

[Akalon]

OMG... another goal to turkey!!!!!!!

2-1 at the 13 minute mark!! :eek:

[Jan]

Certainly more exciting than waiting till extended play before someone scores :p

[The Red Guy]

3-1 at half time. They're winning!

[The Red Guy]

3-2 full time!!!

OLE OLE OLE OLE OLE!!!

[hohoho]

TURKEY WINS !!!!!!!! YEAH

[trenzterra]

wow nice surprise for korea!




11 seconds first goal really gets turkey into the World Cup history. Everyone was just like warming up.


This has been a good game just too many goals!

[murat]

yeah we won :)

[trenzterra]

Here's the chart from the quarter finals:

Germany-----------------------------------------Korea
USA-----------------------------------------------Spain

Germany----------vs----------------------------Korea


England------------------------------------------Turkey
Brazil----------------------------------------------Senegal

Brazil---------------vs----------------------------Turkey


Germany------------------------------------------Brazil
Korea----------------------------------------------Turkey

Germany------------vs----------------------------Brazil

Korea----------------vs----------------------------Turkey

[trenzterra]

Originally posted by murat
yeah we won :) yeah you guys did a good job. Well at least Korea has done asians proud.

[murat]

oh yes... we kicked every asian team from the worldcup, first china, then japan and now korea

[trenzterra]

Originally posted by murat
oh yes... we kicked every asian team from the worldcup, first china, then japan and now korea I have to agree that Asia is lousy.



Well at least Korea isn't sad they lost in 3rd placing, after all they still get something for being 4th.

[Ashed]

Originally posted by trenzterra
I have to agree that Asia is lousy.

Asian teams are lousy? :rolleyes: :confused:

[trenzterra]

Originally posted by GRiN


Asian teams are lousy? :rolleyes: :confused: Yeah, except Korea for once...


Who will get to hold the cup tomorrow?


I think probably Brazil but today's game is probably the most exciting for both parties.

[murat]

Originally posted by GRiN


Asian teams are lousy? :rolleyes: :confused:
look at china, saudi arabia ...

[trenzterra]

Originally posted by murat

look at china, saudi arabia ... because asians are smaller in size.

[conkermaniac]

Originally posted by murat
oh yes... we kicked every asian team from the worldcup, first china, then japan and now korea

Where have you been, murat? Turkey is IN Asia... :p

Maybe not for the World Cup, but geographically, they are. Well, except for that tiny section in Europe. But Ankara is still in Asia! :)

[murat]

lol yeah thats true! now asia is the best footballcontinent coz 2 of the 4 best teams are asian

[trenzterra]

I always thought Turkey are europeans. They don't look like Asians.


And the two teams: Korea and Turkey?


Maybe Korea could have won third placing if there was more extra time.

[Ashed]

I thought half of Turkey is in Asia and the other half is in Europe. :p

[conkermaniac]

Originally posted by GRiN
I thought half of Turkey is in Asia and the other half is in Europe. :p

It's more like 1/8 of Turkey being in Europe and the other 7/8 in Asia.

I believe they are of the same race as the other Southern Mediterranean races, like the Spanish and the Italian, but they're certainly not like the Aryans. :)

[adizlaja]

GERMANY WILL WIN!

[The Red Guy]

Turkey is mostly in Asia but they are considered Europeans.

[conkermaniac]

Originally posted by The Red Guy
Turkey is mostly in Asia but they are considered Europeans.

...which is something I've never understood. Why don't we consider Indonesian people Oceaniac? It's the same question. :confused2

[Ashed]

Indonesians are Asians. I've never heard anyone saying they're Oceanic. :confused:

[Akalon]

Turkey is in and Europe and Asia, but the people are of European decent and look european so they are European. Indonesia is in Oceania/Australasia yet the population are Asians.

[hohoho]

Germany - Brasil just started...
GO GERMANY GO

[tandoc]

nah - go brazil!

this is the 400th post in this long thread!

w00t!

:biggrin2:

[Akalon]

Nah, I'm going for Germany!

[trenzterra]

Woosh!


1-0 to brazil!

[Jan]

Brazil have hit the lead! :eek:

[tandoc]

i hope brazil wins - so i can claim my prize!

[tandoc]

goal #2 for Brazil - a beautiful goal by Ronaldo

[hohoho]

nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

[tandoc]

yeah - i knew brazil would win - wanna know why? becuz they're better than germany!

[hohoho]

nope, they aren't better.
a german player, Michael Ballack, didn't take part in the game.
that's why we lost

[tandoc]

no way he could match the 3 R's - its over - no arguing

[hohoho]

Originally posted by andytandoc
no arguing
ok, no arguing...germany is the best :p

[tandoc]

statement: Brazil is the best - if they weren't they would've lost

[ashben]

PARTY TIME IN RIO ... BRAZIL WIN!

[Moonman]

WOOHOO GO BRAZIL!!!

[Owen]

Originally posted by Owen
I am going to pick the safe pick with Brazil winning it all this year.

:D

http://www.freewebspace.net/forums/showthread.php?postid=267618#post267618

If a certain someone is reading this, it appears I was right.... BTW what happen to Spain and Argentina :D

[Jan]

And a win for FWS, this would have to be the the longest thread that has remained on topic!!!!! :birthday:

[Moonman]

Yup it would have to be, now anyways back on topic, go Brazil.

[trenzterra]

BRAZIL HAS WON!!!!

[Ashed]

Too bad GC isn't here anymore, he said they wouldn't get passed the quarter-finals and look where are they now?

Brazil - 2002 FIFA World Champions

What a memorable moment... :cry2:

[trenzterra]

Good job for the two goals by Ronaldo!

[Ashed]

The first goal was lucky, Kahn actually messed up for the first time in this World Cup! The second one was pure excellency by both Rivaldo and Ronaldo. :)

[tandoc]

brazil won! woo hoo!

[murat]

see you 2006, brazil!
turkey and germany beat you

[Akalon]

Australia - 2006 World Champions :biggrin2: :D

(i most likely won't be around these forums then, so I better celebrate now, eh :birthday: )

[Ashed]

Originally posted by murat
see you 2006, brazil!
turkey and germany beat you

It's good Germany didn't win this time. :D
It wouldn't be much fun for others to see them winning it again as a host in 2006. :)

[conkermaniac]

Originally posted by Akalon
Australia - 2006 World Champions :biggrin2: :D

(i most likely won't be around these forums then, so I better celebrate now, eh :birthday: )

Nah...my pick is the Central African Republic. :D

[murat]

Originally posted by conkermaniac


It's more like 1/8 of Turkey being in Europe and the other 7/8 in Asia.

I believe they are of the same race as the other Southern Mediterranean races, like the Spanish and the Italian, but they're certainly not like the Aryans. :)
the turkish race is the same as the chinese, the turks came from northwest china (you know east turkistan ?)over russia to the middle east
i dont know why we dont look like asians

[conkermaniac]

I always thought those people living in China's Xinjiang province looked like Turks. :confused:

[allanh]

Gernamy was the better team in the first half and they have created a lot of chances for themselves. I think the corner count was like 10-1 in favour of Germany. However, they did not have good finishers and squander their chances.

In the 2nd half, however, it's a different story. Brazil was dominant both in offence and defence. Ronaldo was superb and Germany simply had no answer towards the end of the game.

[trenzterra]

I hope Singapore gets in the 2006 FIFA WorldCup

[conkermaniac]

Originally posted by trenzterra
I hope Singapore gets in the 2006 FIFA WorldCup

They're currently ranked World #113. :) Above Singapore, there are some countries that you probably won't hear about in your life. :D

[trenzterra]

Originally posted by conkermaniac


They're currently ranked World #113. :) Above Singapore, there are some countries that you probably won't hear about in your life. :D Where do you get this information from?



Also I hope in 2006 they get into World #96 or something, then World #60, then maybe World #40, then after that World #1 :p

[adizlaja]

I agree with murat that Germany and Turkey will do awesome in the 2006 World Cup. The Germans will have all their fans there and Turkey will as well since there are millions of Turks living there.

Seeing Germany and Turkey face each other in the 2006 Final would be awesome. What an atmosphere that would be. Also, I wish that Bosnia would qualify for that World Cup. That's where I'm from ;)

[Akalon]

http://www.fifa.com/rank/main_E_latest.html ;)

Ahaha, American Samoa is ranked 200th... Australia beat them like 35-0 :D

[adizlaja]

How many points does a World Cup winner get and the Runner-up?

[Blank Verse]

Everyone keeps blaming Kahn for that first goal, what the ----? How bout the defender that should have passed it off but instead tried to be fancy with it and as a result got the ball stripped? How bout the guy that left Ronaldo wide open? Since when do you leave RONALDO!!! wide open. Kahn maybe should have held onto the ball, but c'mon, cut him some slack.

you lose as a team, after all.

[murat]

Originally posted by conkermaniac
I always thought those people living in China's Xinjiang province looked like Turks. :confused:
Xinjiang = Turkistan
they are turks (uighurs)

[trenzterra]

Originally posted by adizlaja
I agree with murat that Germany and Turkey will do awesome in the 2006 World Cup. The Germans will have all their fans there and Turkey will as well since there are millions of Turks living there.
that's how korea did good.


damn malaysia, just near us and World #112 :p



What's Korea DPR? World #126


Is Chinese Taipei Taiwan?

[Ashed]

Chinese Taipei is Taiwan.
Hey, Thailand is actually ranked 60 in the world! That's very good since we're above Austria, Switzerland, Hungary and a few more countries in the Middle East who always beat us. :D

[allanh]

hey, does anyone know where Taiwan ranks in World soccer? I don't know because I did not really care about soccer prior to this World Cup.

[Ashed]

172 (http://www.fifa.com/rank/main_E_latest.html)

Interesting... United States is ranked 13 in the world. :eek:

[trenzterra]

Originally posted by allanh
hey, does anyone know where Taiwan ranks in World soccer? I don't know because I did not really care about soccer prior to this World Cup. sorry to say its aroun #130-140 or something.

[The Red Guy]

It's a shame to blame kahn. He was the best for every macth except the finals, and he gets blamed. He was touted as the best in history, yet a mistake caused him his reputation. That's just not fair! Brazil deserved to win though. Singapore has a 2010 goal, but I'm afraid it might be Goal 9999!

[Ashed]

Originally posted by trenzterra
sorry to say its aroun #130-140 or something.

It's what I posted...
172

[Jan]

Australia is ranked 48 :cool:

[conkermaniac]

Originally posted by GRiN


It's what I posted...
172

Yes, it's 172. I remember looking for it on the list. But it's actually listed as Chinese Taipei, lol. Cambodia is 171st, Bermuda is 168th, and the no-namers Vanatu, Eritrea, and Cayman Islands are above that. :)

Trenz, look here: http://www.fifa.com/rank/index_E.html

[trenzterra]

Originally posted by Jan
Australia is ranked 48 :cool: your country got into worldcup right?



I hope SIngapore is still better than Saudi Arabia's 0-8 to Germany.

[trenzterra]

btw I like the official anthem for this year's worldcup, the final part. Sounded like Titanic - Hymn to the Sea at first.



They played it during Brazil holding the worldcup.

[Akalon]

Originally posted by trenzterra
your country got into worldcup right?


Nope :cry2:

Cos the Australasian region was so easy to beat with New Zealand and all we had to beat the 5th placed South American team.. Uruguay (in Uruguay), and we unfortunately lost :(

But next World Cup I think we got a pretty good chance.

[trenzterra]

hmm the first part of the official anthem sounds like mixture of titanic and christmas.

[Ashed]

Hmmm... You do know that Titanic isn't a singer/group right? :D j/k...

[conkermaniac]

Originally posted by trenzterra


I hope SIngapore is still better than Saudi Arabia's 0-8 to Germany.

Sorry to disappoint you, but I honestly doubt it. If Singapore faced Germany, we might see scores somewhere around 0-12. The UAE is ranked 61 places higher than Singapore, and they got crushed by China (I think it was 4-0 or 5-0). So I don't think Singapore would have any chance.

BTW, about the FIFA anthem...it wasn't supposed to sound like the Titanic nor Christmas. Couldn't you identify the distinct Korean/Japanese motifs in the song?

[tandoc]

am i allowed to revive this thread???

[trenzterra]

Originally posted by conkermaniac


Sorry to disappoint you, but I honestly doubt it. If Singapore faced Germany, we might see scores somewhere around 0-12. The UAE is ranked 61 places higher than Singapore, and they got crushed by China (I think it was 4-0 or 5-0). So I don't think Singapore would have any chance.

BTW, about the FIFA anthem...it wasn't supposed to sound like the Titanic nor Christmas. Couldn't you identify the distinct Korean/Japanese motifs in the song? Well I was expecting more than 0-12 actually. I was expecting 0-20 from Brazil. My sister says scores stop at 5. What's the maximum amount of goals allowed?


Did UAE enter worldcup? if so when?



The first two minutes sounds sad to me, I assume it was titanic, later on it sounded little like christmas before the the fun part comes in.


Song I downloaded: http://www.sonymusic.com.my/2002worldcup/media/full_h_track20.wax

[murat]

Originally posted by trenzterra

Did UAE enter worldcup? if so when?
not sure, but i think 1990