What are you ppl looking for in a Web Host?

[Clawz.com]

Ok, I'm starting up my Clawz.com, fully redesigned and rescripted.

I need help now, what features are you people looking for in a host?
The Banner thing is a must, can't do anything about it, not unless I go out of business.

[Coolin]

We understand that you must have banners. But please do not make them popups, as they are annoying and closed before anyone ever looks at them. Therefore, making advertising ineffective. Try using user-placable banners, not only is this advertising not as annoying, it makes you get more signups as user-placable banners are almost as good as no banners at all.

Many people in these forums would love to see FTP access because it is probably the most effective method of uploading files. SSI or PHP would be a nice feature as many sites nowadays use includes so they could manage the site better. CGI is also something that can be offered if your server can handle it. PHP/MySQL is a last consideration, although many people want it, the above features are more commonly asked for.

And finally, please don't offer very little space or bandwidth. About 15 megs of space or more should suffice for most sites. You could also offer a program in which you could start off with 10 megs of space and "upgrade" to more space when needed.

Just my two cents :)

[coolguy23]

and preferably domianhosting with subdomain access!!!!

[Clawz.com]

Don't worry, the banner ain't a popup, it gets annoying
mine is a banner at the bottom of every page, adds it automatically

yea, my gives the user Full FTP Access to their Home Directory

I support PHP, SSI and CGI

mySQL, will do soon, but I still need to learn how to implement it.

Mine offers Unlimited Traffic and Unlimited Web Space.

[Clawz.com]

Mine support Subdomain and Domain hosting with no charges, except if u want to remove the banner I put on every page.

Both of em have a online admin page, so u can sign up to 3 subdomains under clawz.com and unlimited subdomains if u use ur domain.

right now, all ip routing, subdomain and domain hosting has unlimited email forwarding in em.

[Canuckkev]

Don't offer any "Unlimited" space/bandwidth . You'll get screwed with people storing downloads and such on it. But the banners at the bottom is a good idea. And that would work for some frames too, cause without scrolling on in the frame, it wouldn't mess up the frame, and the main frame will still have a banner.

[Clawz.com]

About the people abusing the unlimited space stuff, my web hosting is based on a general account, like a one time registration to access the services.
and me and fellow helpers of Clawz.com review all the applications to see if all the information is legit, if it isn't legit, their account will just get denied.

Some the people that will try to abuse it will get discouraged from the 1st step registration.

hopefully...

[km]

hopefully, there won't be any additional text ads/ads bar like virtualave/hypermart around the banner. just a clean banner only would be nice.

[juice1]

Clawz- Allow emu sites. Its hard to find a good emu site host these days.

[Clawz.com]

emu sites? what u mean by that?

the banners are just a 468*60 banner with a little text underneath, nothing more

[Gayowulf]

one question. why do you require so much personal information, and how do you verify it? you mention name adress phone number, and "other important stuff". whats this other important stuff? Just a question.

I really like your site. looks cool and is easy to read. and it sounds friendly.

I also like the fact that it is out of vancouver, Canada.

Good luck to you.

[Clawz.com]

I require those information so that I know the people that I let in to use the services aren't going to abuse it, hopefully.

There's a online admin part of the user verfication, so it's easy for me and some other friends to verify user accounts.

Only reason why I put this in, is to try to stop as many ppl that will abuse my service.

So if you don't put in all the information that I request or correct, expect a deny mail from me. =)

[Gayowulf]

I like that idea. I think it will work. will that mean the sign up will take a couple hours to be processed? its not a big deal, but if it will take time mention it on your site. that way people will not think something is wrong when they cant acess it right away

[Clawz.com]

On the top of the Sign Up it says that All Applications must be review by the Administrations.

Plus, I'm doing some finishing touches on the Domain Hosting Service.

[jonny]

So... how long will you last this time? Just outa interest- don't mean to be rude or anything.

[Clawz.com]

Last time wasn't my fault, lame --- ISP treaten me.
But when I get enuff money to maintain a T1 connection, I'll go for it.
Plus, this time I got 2 business partners to fund me.

[Gayowulf]

What sort of connection are you runing off? if its not real fast the unlimited bandwidth could be a problem.

Limited traffic is that hits or bandwidth?

[Clawz.com]

This Clawz.com was started on June 2000
Connection speed right now, Cable Modem
ain't that good, but one of my partner is gonna be making a mirror server of Clawz.com, just to split up the load.

[anime-master]

hey, Clawz.com,
Can i get my domain hosted by you? Your domain plan is like the best one i have seen in ages! post a reply to my message :-)

[Clawz.com]

I'll accept those accounts as soon as I get a better advertisment.

[anime-master]

well i dont really care about the type of advertising...i just want hosting with unlimited sub-domains!!! Please...I have admired ur site for a couple of hours...

[anime-master]

or if you dont want to host my domain right now....tell me how to use the Public DNS Service (GraniteCanyon)...PLEASE!!!!!

[Clawz.com]

If your going to host the sites on ur computer, than u can use GraniteCanyon, but it's a b*tch to setup. It requires some stuff that my DNS doesn't require, so I get confused, but I got it working at least.

I will host ur domain, as soon as I get a better advertisier.

[anime-master]

why are you getting a new advertisement? I dont care wat advertising you have going on my site. Just want a host :-p

[Clawz.com]

Well, that's u.
I need advertisiers so I can pay for my crap. How do you think I'll make the money to pay for it?

[Rotten Rhonda]

Clawz.com~

I looks as if you're on your way to hosting a great service.

A couple things I'd like to suggest: a member forum at the very least & a member directory is always nice. A quick list of allowable file types will aid prospective members.

G'luck & have fun!
RR

[Canuckkev]

Hmm...outta Vancouver? Definite sign up. I sorta have two sites I need a host for though. Do you allow multiple sign ups?

[Clawz.com]

The Forum, I can put up within a week or so, just like the old Clawz.com

but what do u mean by members directory?

[Clawz.com]

Oh yea, the allowable files, I'll put in the FAQ later on when I have time to finish up the admin stuff.

yea, I allow multiple signup
u just have to sign up for the main login to gain access to the services
then u can add 2 subdomains or get a domain and get unlimited subdomain hosting

[Canuckkev]

K thanks. I just read the faqs and found it out that way. I like your authorization method. Hopefully it will allow only serious people to sign up, then your ads will be displayed more, and the service will last.

[Clawz.com]

well, I started this forum just to get input on what I should do to make it better...

[Rotten Rhonda]

Hey Clawz.com~

I'm sure you've seen these, I may not be using the correct term. A directory w/links to hosted sites, some examples:

http://wzpro.net/hosted.html
http://pages.yahoo.com/
http://index.www1.50megs.com/index.html


When you're checking out hosts, don't you like to surf some of the sites in the community?? The old Geocities neighborhood, surfin' up & down the blocks is what got me interested in site building...and of course, it's where I started.

Later~
RR

[Clawz.com]

Well, there's a problem with that.
some people don't want their site listed, but I can add a feature that says if u want to or not

but for me, site listing is pretty useless
but site searching, that could be better

[Clawz.com]

My damn ISP went dead yesterday!
have to till Sunday till my modem is switched.
and Clawz.com is 100% done and working
so, I'll be accepting the accounts when my modem is switched.

[LeX]

No wonder I couldn't connect... I was going to post about that.

[Coolin]

Originally posted by LeX
I was going to post about that. Erm... You did.

Anyways, I wish you the best of luck in your new hosting service Clawz. If you prove to last long, I will host you too!

[LeX]

I did?
When?
Where?
How??

[Hellbound]

Hit logs! So we could see who goes to our site, what site referred them, their IP, OS, browser, ect. Really good for customizing your site for your visiters.

[Hellbound]

I'm moving my site over as soon as you're back up!
I get 1500+ hits a day, so it might be useful for your start.

[Clawz.com]

hmm... the hit log will do.
pretty simple scripting.

[Clawz.com]

Ok, my ISP is back up, but I don't know for how long, just got lucky today.
gonna accept the accounts now...

[Hellbound]

Looks good.

[Clawz.com]

I can see that u have some flawed information in ur sign up, but I'll let u go this time.

And please remember, Clawz.com is still developmental, so if u find errors, please email me @ clawz@vcn.bc.ca

[effacer]

clawz..i cannot signup to your great service...
i live in a country where the phone number format is "xx-xx-xxxxxxx". so, no user from other countries like mine is allowed to signup ? geez..i wish... :(

[Clawz.com]

then just use
0xx-0xx-xxxx

[Clawz.com]

Something for all you users with Clawz.com right now or planning to sign up.

http://www.clawz.com/ has the general sign up, this sign up is to gain access to the services.

When you account has been approved; there's a list of Services at http://www.clawz.com/, bottom left corner, Domain Hosting, Subdomain Hosting, IP Routing.
You can sign up for those services when your General Account has been approved.

Subdomain Hosting, only requires u to type in a Subdomain and Password and the optional Email Forwarding stuff. When your done that sign up, it will print out the useful information. So u better copy those useful information somewhere.

Oh yea.
the General Account doesn't have FTP Access!!!
And only when you sign up for the Subdomain Hosting service and wait around an hour, then you can use your account to get into the ftp.
And the login for your subdomain to Clawz.com ftp server is:
(subdomain).clawz.com
(subdomain) = the subdomain that you picked/typed in the Subdomain field.
This is all written out on the last page of the Subdomain Sign Up, so please don't be lazy and read the information carefully!!!

[Canuckkev]

Well if you feel the need to post this here, obliviously it is not clearly stated on your site. I had a little trouble figuring it all out. Also, could you accept other domains, like .com.kg? It won't be trouble at all, but your current sign up does not allow this. And one last thing I noticed at the domain sign up page, for mail server, you exaple said "sitemal.everyone.net", I believe it should be "sitemail.everyone.net" .

[Clawz.com]

It's more like some people don't take the time to read. I was checking my FTP logs, and 3 users tried to use the General Account to login.
And on the email it says that you can now add the service of ur choice, I didn't mention anything about FTP.
But I'll try to explain it even future later on, too busy with fixing other bugs.

fixed that typo and added .com.kg

if ppl want me to add a different domain ending, they just have to ask and I'll add it.
because I don't know home many domain endings there are.

[Clawz.com]

To: DF LW
your email, dflws@xcsar.net doesn't allow email relaying and this is the first error that popped up with in around 20 users right now.
But your account is made.

[Satelk]

You should add the endings of free domains, like:
net.kg
org.kg
mil.kg
gov.kg
uni.cc
wox.org
dhs.org
da.ru

I don't know if .xxx.ru or .mu are still free, but you could add them.

[Clawz.com]

Well, right now I don't know how accurate your list is.
becuz dhs.org isn't a domain providing place

[Satelk]

I know it's not domains, but subdomains that you can host like a domain. Some people might prefer this to subdomain hosting, because they can change the mail servers, have subdomains, etc.
The subdomain providers in my list are:
dhs.org
wox.org
uni.cc
da.ru

I still think you should add them though.

[Clawz.com]

nah, I'll add the domain endings when they email me.

[Clawz.com]

Ok, I bet little people will use this, but oh well.
When you sign for for any Subdomain or Domain Hosting, you get a POP3 account
Login would be the FTP Login you use.
Ex: http://www.clawz.com is my FTP Login

And for the Domain part, you can use your Domain if you signed up for a domain and set the Mail to "localhost"
Ex: clawz.com would be my domain

So, the full email would be...
http://www.clawz.com@clawz.com

yea, I know, it sux, but you can always use Email Forwarding.
webmaster@clawz.com to http://www.clawz.com@clawz.com

POP3/SMTP Server: your domain if I'm hosting it and if Mail is set to "localhost" or use the following..
mail.clawz.com
clawz.com

[coolguy23]

damn...your putting so much work into your freehost! .....what if your isp shuts you down? :( are you planning to get a dedicated connection soon?

[Canuckkev]

Yeah, I hope you stay up. I'd go click some banners, but it's down again so...

[Clawz.com]

My ISP is releasing the SOHO package by the end of the month, so I can host my FWP stuff on it. I'm gonna slowy upgrade my connection.

[Clawz.com]

But if you have any ideas on how I can generate more revenue, please, do share.

right now I'm thinking of putting the banner as a header instead of a footer

what do u ppl think?

[programmer2k]

header sucks

[Canuckkev]

I find that footer banners attract my attention more. I have the ability to completely ignore headers.

[cowax]

I have the ability to ignore all banners totally ;)

[Clawz.com]

I don't know about the banner right now, but I'll decide later on.
But right now, my cable modem is switched and the only thing I can say is, f*ck!!!
dynamic ip now, not static anymore
will take around a day for Clawz.com to point the the right IP address.

Man, this sux, just when I got everything working and crap, my ISP screws me over again!

[Canuckkev]

Originally posted by Clawz.com

Man, this sux, just when I got everything working and crap, my ISP screws me over again!

And your user(s?). I wondered why I couldn't log in to FTP today.

[Clawz.com]

Well, right now I'm trying to fix the problem.
And when that SOHO package is released, I will get it.
But the problem would be, how will I be able to afford it?

My question would be, would some of you users on Clawz.com pay for the services? Like just help support Clawz.com or something, of course, ppl that do will get something back.

[Canuckkev]

Naw..sorry. I wouldn't pay for free web space. I'll click lots of banners though.

[Clawz.com]

Well, it'll take around 24 hours for Clawz.com and the other stuff to get back up.
But I need to wait 2 days to see if my IP is dyanmic or not.

Right now, the banner I use is a P.O.S.
10 cent per click and only tracks 1 click per ip for every 24 hours.

[Clawz.com]

Ok, right now Clawz.com is working.
But for all your Domain Hosting users, you have to change the Primary DNS (Name Server) to:
ns1.clawz.com
24.76.82.181

But 2morrow will be the day to see if I'm screwed or not.

[Gayowulf]

Clawz- What sort of financial help were you thinking of, and what sort of benefits? not to sound greedy or anything.

[coolguy23]

i can click on your banners and raise your revenue to a extremely high point....what company are you using again?
i can also get friends to click on banners!!!

[Clawz.com]

The only financial help I'm getting is only from the banners and donations from generous people. Also, I just started up Clawz.com again, so I'm slowly improving anything that I can. I'm still working on adding more services, like web mail.

coolguy, no point in doing that, they only count 1 click every 24 hours.

[Peo]

Please don't encourage people to cheat ad companies or free hosts on this forum. It's against our rules. http://www.freewebspace.net/forums/announcement.php?forumid=2

Thanks.

[Clawz.com]

I ain't encouraging him/her, I'm just stating a fact on my advertisment provider.

[Peo]

I wasn't accusing you. I just pointed out our rules to those who tried to 'help' you by suggesting to cheat your advertisers...

[Clawz.com]

Oh, my bad...
I didn't know who u were referring too.

[coolguy23]

what company do you use ne ways?

[Clawz.com]

Right now...
bulkclicks.com
bannerco-op.com

[Mandrake]

Am I reading this correctly? Are you trying to run an FWP off of a cable modem???

[Clawz.com]

Sadly... Yes...
Everyone has to start small and grow, for me, small would be using Cable Modem than upgrading when I generate enuff revenue.

[Peo]

Hate to say it, but I don't think any cable modem company would allow you to do that... Save yourself (and your users) the trouble and start a free host when you can afford it. Or co-brand.

[Clawz.com]

Wow, only have to pay an extra $10 just to host servers.

[Technics]

Why not just get a cheap RAQ bump up the ram and youll be sorted.

[Clawz.com]

Huh? Why get a RAQ server? I'll still be hooking it up with my current connection...

[Technics]

oh well you cheat your users then .....

[Clawz.com]

hmmmm...
How do I cheat my users?
They're not even losing any money or anything.
Are you always a jerk?

[Technics]

in the words of stone cold steve austion " OH HELL YEAH ".

[programmer2k]

Leave CLAWZ alone
man

Let him do whatever he wants

Nobody starts big and I know that

..
but T1 is like only less than $1000 in Canada...

[programmer2k]

I signed up with your service Clawz

Hope your service doesn't go down really fast

or I'll get mad >:

hehe
J/P

[Clawz.com]

Well, I'm trying my best to keep my service up.
And at least my IP doesn't change, thank goodness!

So, for all your Domain Hosting users on Clawz.com
Change your primary DNS to:
ns1.clawz.com
24.76.82.181

Gonna start up a BBS on Clawz.com now...

[Clawz.com]

Oh yea, about that T1 thing
I need to rent/buy some office space. cheapest I know of is when a new building is being built.
so that will eat up more $$$.
and I can sure say that I don't make $1000/month.

T1 has to be in those commercial buildings type.

[programmer2k]

One of the cheapest building I was going rent for my new project was... $900 per month..

[Clawz.com]

Hmm...
I was thinking more of $550/month

[jimmacr]

Why don't you just colocate, it will be a lot cheaper.

[Clawz.com]

Yea, I probably will do that first.

[Clawz.com]

Ok, the BBS is done, UBB
Will be added to Clawz.com when I'm done editing the sign up script.
so this would mean that you must be a registered user of Clawz.com to post.

[Cosmoslayer]

Can't wait....

[Gayowulf]

If i'm correct you are in burnaby right now, right? I'll bet you could get a building for real cheap lease/rent on E. Hastings street where all the addicts hang out. It wouldnt be that bad because your customers would not have to see where your building was. heck you could probably buy a whole city block for a quarter mil.(only problem would be keeping them from living in your doorway.)

you dont have to take me seriously if you dont want to ;)

and about cheating your users- dont do that thats bad.

[Haze]

i heard that you can get 4 mb of bandwidth from stream.ca for $400 a month.. its burstable too 1 - 1000 mb so i hear.

[Clawz.com]

ok, BBS is 100% done and running perfectly, just read the Members FAQ to find out your login at http://www.clawz.com/MFAQ.shtml

Gayowulf, what heck do u mean by cheat my users?
be more specific....

[Edited by Clawz.com on 03-07-2001 at 12:21 AM]

[Gayowulf]

when i said dont cheat your users i was referring to what technics said earlier. no big deal.

[programmer2k]

just run it from your cable modem until you actually make enough money to change connection

The speed is pretty fast

[Clawz.com]

I'm lost on the cheating my users thing.
Explain if u want, but I'm confusing...

Well, the next connection I was planning to get is around $20 more and 2 times faster, upload speed I mean.

So I just need to generate around $80/month and then I can get a new connection.

[Gayowulf]

Yeah never mind about the cheating bit. Is your ISP ok with you running a server for the time being?

[Clawz.com]

No comment =)

[Mandrake]

Originally posted by programmer2k
just run it from your cable modem until you actually make enough money to change connection

The speed is pretty fast

Just wait'll more people signup for it!

[Cracker]

Originally posted by Mandrake
Just wait'll more people signup for it!

He'll probably cut people from signing up for his service when his server gets too slow.

[programmer2k]

I already signed up

great service man

[programmer2k]

I will click on the Ad
if it'll help you get one step closer to getting a faster server

[Clawz.com]

Ok, got the Forums and Site Statistics all done.
Any more requests?

[Peo]

This thread is getting closer and closer to being ...yes, closed... Let me explain:

We do not list free hosts which cheat/abuse your ISP or someone elses ISP or abuse any other company/service. I would advice people not to use such a service for very obvious reasons.

I don't really wish to have discussions about this type of activity on this forum. Even though the intention might be good...

[Mandrake]

That's what surprised me... Wasn't sure I had read it right, at first. Usually everyone here jumps all over people like that. :)

[Clawz.com]

What other improvements should I do? The Forums and Site Stats are done. What else are u ppl looking for?

[Coolin]

MySQL perhaps?

[Clawz.com]

That will take me some time to setup. I don't even know how to use it.

[Gayowulf]

I say wait a while before offering major, complicated things like that. or see how many people would be interested. Its nice to know that someone will want to use it when you offer it

[Peo]

Thread closed for reasons mentioned above. My suggestion is to take this discussion to this service own forum. Any discussion of this service is welcome back whenever this service is no longer abusing the rules of it's ISP. Similar discussions will not be allowed in the future.