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Dave63
February 28th, 2001, 22:01
I am trying to find a free server that also provides you with a ip address, are there any?

Coolin
February 28th, 2001, 22:38
Other than http://www.freededicatedservers.com (which is most likely a scam)there are no free hosts that give you an IP. An IP is simply too expensive to give away for free.

Dave63
February 28th, 2001, 22:47
I didn't think so, but I figured it would not hurt to ask, and it amazes me how some of the free host can operate on banner adds alone. So I figured I might get lucky and find a dedicated ip host. Thank You for the reply!!

Coolin
March 1st, 2001, 02:18
Banner ads can suffice to subsidize a basic host. But once you get into all those features, the costs rise, and banners are not enough. IPs cost way too much and therefore no hosts provide them to you.

Sphosting.com
March 1st, 2001, 02:37
If I remember it correctly there something like 3.00 each per year to get them from the ARIN, who manage the running of the ip's, but they do cost money.

Also the arin change their policy a few months ago to make it harder to get ip's for virtual servers, to conserve the ip address space as it is quickly running out.

Webdude
March 1st, 2001, 03:29
Well geez....only about 1/4 of available IP's are being used. They are only up to 255.xxx.xxx.xxx when they can go all the way to 999.xxx.xxx.xxx

Makes you wonder what they are REALLY up too huh? Actually, there ARE a number of hosts and nocs trying to get as many ip's as possible, even thought they dont use them. Then once that IP base runs out, they can charge what they want for them. It's just another drugs.com deal they are looking forward to. I believe that is what ARIN is attempting to prevent.

Now, if only our Governments could think that far ahead..LOL

Mandrake
March 1st, 2001, 09:22
Incorrect... The highest that the numbers can go, in each range of the IP number, is 254. 0 and 255 can also be used, but there are special uses for those.

Rodie
March 1st, 2001, 12:58
What is the deal with IP addresses that go up beyond 255? I've seen some people on IRC who have addresses that are in the 700-range. How is that even possible?

jimmacr
March 1st, 2001, 20:01
The current version of IP, IP version 4 (IPv4), defines a 32-bit address which means that there are only 4,294,967,296 IPv4 addresses available. When you convert an IP, such as 193.1.1.6, into a binary string, you arrive at something like:

11000001.00000001.00000001.01000011

This is where the 255 limit comes into play.

Once IPv6 goes mainstream, free web hosts should be able to provide each user with its own IP address.

Dave63
March 1st, 2001, 20:09
Someone emailed me and suggested this one, http://gcsnet.net. They are on tera-byte's name servers, and they will give you an ip address, other then that I know nothing about them. Has anyone here ever heard of them, and if so what do you know.

jimmacr
March 1st, 2001, 20:09
Oh yea, and 255 is used for broadcast normally.

Webdude
March 1st, 2001, 21:20
Originally posted by Mandrake
Incorrect... The highest that the numbers can go, in each range of the IP number, is 254. 0 and 255 can also be used, but there are special uses for those.


I know that, what I was saying is that the ability is there, but they arent allowing it...trust me, I know ARIN and he told me so :-)

Yes, the last sentence was a joke....

[Edited by Webdude on 03-02-2001 at 02:01 AM]

ashben
March 2nd, 2001, 00:14
Originally posted by Dave63
Someone emailed me and suggested this one, http://gcsnet.net. They are on tera-byte's name servers, and they will give you an ip address, other then that I know nothing about them. Has anyone here ever heard of them, and if so what do you know.

They seem to have a rigid acception guideline. Besides, they require applicants with 200+ hits/day, background popups etc. The static IP seems to be a part of the plan!

Koolguy
March 2nd, 2001, 01:44
remmeber http://www.koolplace.com/base.phtml