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jmiller
July 18th, 2002, 01:47
The Unites States congress very recently passed a new computer crime bill that will supposedly provide life imprisonment for "malicious" computer hackers. And will allows allow police forces to eavesdrop over internet/telephone without a court order. (Article (http://www.msnbc.com/news/780923.asp?cp1=1))
In my opinion this is absolute garbage. But those people who commit cyber crime to steal from corporations are not hackers but in fact just criminals, merely using the internet as a tool to help them with their cyber crimes. But I still don't feel they deserve to be imprissoned for life for such acts. Its absolute BS that the American feds could take away your privacy just like that, and consider you a terrorist and treat you like a hardened criminal for internet crimes. They're just scared that "hackers" are ahead of them, so they invoke such lame and intrusive laws. When really they should be going after pedophiles, rapists, murders, and the real "terrorists" that are flying planes into buildings. Instead they are going the easy way and invading people's privacy cuz Bush is paranoid. This ---- makes me sick.
Anyways read this, http://www.nettwerked.net/protest/index.html and help support the cause.

is0lized
July 18th, 2002, 01:58
good thing i live in canada, but im a us cit...

jmiller
July 18th, 2002, 02:03
I live in Canada, and am 100% Canadian.
Canada will soon follow though, plus just cuz I'm not American doesn't mean I don't care about American's having their privacy invaded over such bs.

Ben
July 18th, 2002, 09:06
At least we still have the first ammendment, and even that is being violated to some extent.



Amendment I - Freedom of Religion, Press, Expression. Ratified 12/15/1791. Note

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
For example, "Freedom of Expression". They say we have freedom of expression yet they ruin good movies on TV by editing the dialogue and/or content.


I know that was off-topic but, hey, it proves our Government is too nosy. Now i fully expect a blank, white van to be parked in the side of the street outside my window by this time tomorrow since i said that.

murat
July 18th, 2002, 09:52
europe rox :p

jmiller
July 18th, 2002, 11:33
Yea, the United States goverment is far too noisy and paranoid.
Quite sad to think they'd actually invoke such a law.

tandoc
July 19th, 2002, 08:03
Originally posted by murat
europe rox :p

so does Australia!

loggerheads
July 19th, 2002, 13:27
is this law for real? So if some hacker steals someones credit card number off the net, pays $10 for something crappy on ebay or whatever he gets life imprisonment, while the guy working at the restaurant who swipes ur card through some copying machine before the proper one, then spends thousands of dollars gets considerably less?
You have one bizarre country.

jmiller
July 19th, 2002, 13:46
I'm not sure exactly how strict they will be on this law. :rolleyes:
Right now I have nothing to worry about as I am a Canadian living in Canada, but I fear that our government will be soon to follow.

Pathetic
July 19th, 2002, 13:48
yeh. i also heard bush plans to recruit millions of people as... "citizen informants" also known as.. spies. he's DAMNED paranoid if he's pulling this crap also.

jmiller
July 19th, 2002, 13:51
Everyone already knows he's paranoid.
And he's just gonna abuse his power by invading everyone's privacy.

Dusty
July 19th, 2002, 14:15
yeh. i also heard bush plans to recruit millions of people as... "citizen informants" also known as.. spies. he's DAMNED paranoid if he's pulling this crap also.One out of every twenty-four Americans will be admitted to the SS-- erm, CC. Mostly meter readers and like, those who would have unguarded access to homes and other private institutions.

I don't know if I buy that, though. Sounds a bit over-the-top even for Curious George. Still, I'd keep an ear open.

Pathetic
July 19th, 2002, 23:39
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2002/07/14/1026185141232.html