PHP vs ASP

People, use PHP, it's much better then ASP.

ASP may be better then PHP BUT not all webhosting companies.. offer it. I know only a handful of fwp that offer it. And doesn't ASP run off of NT?

Regards,

Robert

Originally posted by robert

ASP may be better then PHP BUT not all webhosting companies.. offer it. I know only a handful of fwp that offer it. And doesn't ASP run off of NT?


If you'll use the the freewebspace's search engine (http://www.freewebspace.net/search/power.shtml), you'll see that there are more PHP providers then ASP providers, while AFAIK, there is even more that not listed, which includes PHP as part of their CGI's features.

Also, if you'll look around, you'll see that most of the ASP programs are commerical, while in PHP they are opensource freeware.

In most case, PHP is easier to learn, more supported by 3rd developers, and free for use, on ANY platform and Operating-System.

ASP can also be run of linux or unix. Take a look at the chilesoft homepage. I believe the url is http://www.chilesoft.com.

ASP can be written i a more clear way then in php. This results in cleaner code.

php always rulez compared to asp, as iis always a resource hog. although asp is ported to linux, but is slower than running on iis. It is also hard to code some of the stuff with asp.

Originally posted by noeska
ASP can also be run of linux or unix. Take a look at the chilesoft homepage. I believe the url is http://www.chilesoft.com.

ASP can be written i a more clear way then in php. This results in cleaner code.
ASP has a clean code? I don't belive. Microsoft thinks they can expand the Basic language to everywhere, anything, while it's even not similar from one language to another.

Look over PHP, it has simple code, even more clear then ASP, and even more clear code. That's my opinion, anyway.

I think we can all agree that microsoft sucks when it comes to the web and the best software is free(linux, apache)

who wants to buy a costly software, and use "hard to code" language to build their website, unless they have unlimited budget. stability do comes 1st, linux forever !!!

Originally posted by noeska
ASP can also be run of linux or unix. Take a look at the chilesoft homepage. I believe the url is http://www.chilesoft.com.

ASP can be written i a more clear way then in php. This results in cleaner code.

Correct URL: http://www.chilisoft.com/

I don't use any basic language anymore since my BBC accorn computer. Those were the days *sigh*. But anyway I just don't like it because it's so different and it used to be a spaghetti language, goto 10, goto 120 sjeez. I understand that has changed now with subs and all that stuff. But I still like c-like programming languages more. But that's just me I guess :)

It all depends...if you are doing a personal site, I would stick to PHP, no question...

However, if you want to get hired somewhere in the web developer business, it would be good for to learn ASP, as it is by far the more popular with "big" businesses...

PHP is sort of a project language...meaning, like PERL, it was created by a friendly consortium of programmers...

For some reason businesses fear things like this, and want corporate support. That and the fact that win2k servers are getting more popular (in the corporate world) makes ASP the one to learn in that respect.

Another thing is PERL....next summer PERL6 is comming out which can give PHP, ASP, JSP, and ColdFusion a run for their money!

I think PHP will continue to grow, and will also make their entrance in the business world.

It has the advantange over perl because it's faster and _easier_ . Maybe perl is more powerfull, yes, but it's also more complex. Anyone can pick up PHP pretty fast and get some amazing things done, to do the same in perl, you would need way more code and way more knowledge.

Only time will tell, but unless perl is simplified, PHP will become the choice imho.

With the rise of *nix, and it's dominating position in the internet market, I don't see ASP becomming much bigger than it is. Companies with really huge traffic will almost be forced to use unix servers because of their stability over Win NT/2000. There are always those persistant rumours that microsoft itself is running it's site from a (highly modified) unix server.

First of all, hotmail.com, which is run by MS, is run on a unix server (for continuance reasons).

The linux/apache domination on websites (60%) or so is due largely to small server sites. Its precedence in the corporate market is actually shrinking.

The reason is MS is cornering the market by shipping its OS with industry gianst like Compaq, Dell, and IBM. Most sysadmins like making their life easy so they ask management for win2k servers.

In the course of the past 3 months, I've done design work for 4 large companies. All the IT guys at these companies are stressing the importance of win2k and ASP at a corporate environment.

Another reason is that larger companies have their databases stored in an Access database, or an Oracle database. These are traditionally more secure with a language such as ASP. In addition, most companies would be hesitant to switch midstream to a different OS... It doesn't matter how good it is...if the employees cant use it, its crap.

Anyway, im not supporting ASP, Im just saying that its good to learn if you want to get hired.

Err... you have a point there. Quality just isn't appreciated the way it should <g>

Originally posted by cds
First of all, hotmail.com, which is run by MS, is run on a unix server (for continuance reasons).


To be more accurate, they tried moving over to NT for a while and they simply couldn't handle the load


The linux/apache domination on websites (60%) or so is due largely to small server sites. Its precedence in the corporate market is actually shrinking.

The fact is that more larger companies are starting to use unix and it's flavors to run their sites -- since it's a cheaper alterative and it's not just the small companies that support linux now. In the past only NT and Solaris was the main market for large companies.


The reason is MS is cornering the market by shipping its OS with industry gianst like Compaq, Dell, and IBM. Most sysadmins like making their life easy so they ask management for win2k servers.

In the course of the past 3 months, I've done design work for 4 large companies. All the IT guys at these companies are stressing the importance of win2k and ASP at a corporate environment.

Another reason is that larger companies have their databases stored in an Access database, or an Oracle database. These are traditionally more secure with a language such as ASP. In addition, most companies would be hesitant to switch midstream to a different OS... It doesn't matter how good it is...if the employees cant use it, its crap.

Anyway, im not supporting ASP, Im just saying that its good to learn if you want to get hired.

My employer runs mostly Solaris servers with an ever-increasing number of Linux servers. Granted there are the normal Novell and a few NT. The main databases are served from AIX machines.

-mk

Windows sucks! Linux rulez!